| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:16 |
|
SelfishMan |
any tips for getting the shelf browser working? |
| 12:38 |
|
SelfishMan |
Ignore that, I figured it out. Now to get 'Editions' working |
| 16:29 |
|
myconid |
What platform is best suited for Koha installation? |
| 17:01 |
|
gmcharlt |
myconid: I recommend Debian |
| 17:05 |
|
myconid |
I seem to be having perl issues w/ Debian. |
| 17:05 |
|
myconid |
Whilist trying to install Koha 3 |
| 20:34 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Hello |
| 20:34 |
|
chris |
hi |
| 20:34 |
|
myconid |
hai |
| 20:34 |
|
dressedinvalue |
This is the first time I've ever used IRC, and I grew up around computers and the internet! ha |
| 20:35 |
|
dressedinvalue |
haha |
| 20:35 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Well, I was hoping I might find someone to help me; to guide me in the right direction |
| 20:36 |
|
dressedinvalue |
I want to install Koha on a remote VPS, but I am not too handy with the terminal, and I need to install Zebra |
| 20:36 |
|
myconid |
You probably need to install quite a few things. |
| 20:36 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Per the req's, I have everything except Zebra (prior to installing the actual Koha software) |
| 20:37 |
|
chris |
what distro is your vps? |
| 20:37 |
|
dressedinvalue |
I have a MediaTemple Dedicated Virtual server |
| 20:37 |
|
dressedinvalue |
CentOS |
| 20:37 |
|
chris |
ahh so rpm based |
| 20:37 |
|
chris |
you might be able to find an rpm on the indexdata site |
| 20:37 |
|
chris |
ill just have a quick look |
| 20:37 |
|
dressedinvalue |
What is rpm? |
| 20:37 |
|
dressedinvalue |
(Sorry, I am not the hippest to the server lingo) |
| 20:38 |
|
myconid |
redhat package management .. how you install prepacked softwaer.. |
| 20:38 |
|
dressedinvalue |
I see |
| 20:38 |
|
chris |
its they way that fedora, redhat, centos and quick a few others manage software |
| 20:38 |
|
myconid |
Debian uses .deb, etc.. everyone has to be fscking different |
| 20:38 |
|
dressedinvalue |
haha, yes they do |
| 20:38 |
|
myconid |
What release of Koha are you working with? |
| 20:39 |
|
dressedinvalue |
The joys of freedom and capitalism |
| 20:39 |
|
dressedinvalue |
I am new to Koha, so I will install 3.0 |
| 20:39 |
|
myconid |
your kicking my butt then :( i cant even get all the perl modules installed correctly. |
| 20:39 |
|
chris |
http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/redhat/fc6/ |
| 20:39 |
|
chris |
not sure if those will work with CentOS tho, if not, youll have to do a source install |
| 20:40 |
|
chris |
which is pretty much downloading http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/ze[…]bra-2.0.34.tar.gz |
| 20:40 |
|
chris |
untarring |
| 20:40 |
|
chris |
and following hte install instructions that come with it |
| 20:40 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Where do I untar? |
| 20:40 |
|
chris |
just in your home directory |
| 20:41 |
|
chris |
(on the server) |
| 20:41 |
|
chris |
then you cd into the untarred directory |
| 20:41 |
|
chris |
run ./configure |
| 20:41 |
|
chris |
and that will moan if you have missing dependencies |
| 20:41 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Sorry, this is only slightly, slightly confusing. Home directory for the domain? Or home home home, like a higher-up dir? |
| 20:42 |
|
dressedinvalue |
hahaha |
| 20:42 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Dangit |
| 20:42 |
|
dressedinvalue |
I am trying to learn, really. |
| 20:42 |
|
chris |
it doesnt actually matter, thats just where you are uncompressing it |
| 20:42 |
|
chris |
not installing it |
| 20:42 |
|
dressedinvalue |
And it will install where it needs to install, automatically? |
| 20:42 |
|
chris |
you are familiar with zip on windows? |
| 20:42 |
|
chris |
you are just unzipping |
| 20:43 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Sure. I've been extracting things remotely lately |
| 20:43 |
|
dressedinvalue |
I've come to really appreciate it |
| 20:43 |
|
chris |
yes, you run ./configure (in the uncompressed dir) |
| 20:43 |
|
chris |
and that will set up the install paths |
| 20:43 |
|
chris |
and if it is happy (doesnt say you are missing other software) |
| 20:43 |
|
chris |
then make |
| 20:43 |
|
chris |
and make install |
| 20:43 |
|
chris |
(make install will need to be run as root) |
| 20:43 |
|
chris |
will finish the install |
| 20:44 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Do I read correctly: "make" and then "make install"? |
| 20:44 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 20:44 |
|
chris |
but only after you have run ./configure |
| 20:44 |
|
chris |
and it has successfully completed |
| 20:44 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Ok. I have to activate root access on the server, which made me nervous when I read about it yesterday |
| 20:45 |
|
chris |
you dont need root until the very last step |
| 20:47 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Okay, I just activated root access on the server. I feel dangerous! Now… |
| 20:48 |
|
chris |
yeah dont do the rest as root |
| 20:48 |
|
chris |
only the make install |
| 20:48 |
|
dressedinvalue |
idzebra-2.0-2.0.32-1.i386.rpm ? |
| 20:48 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Or the one that you linked? |
| 20:48 |
|
chris |
thats the rpm its for fedora, so i dont know if it will work with centos |
| 20:49 |
|
dressedinvalue |
So I should just use the tar.gz you linked, and untar that and follow the rest of your directions? |
| 20:49 |
|
chris |
yep, there is a README file in there |
| 20:49 |
|
chris |
if you get lost |
| 20:49 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Excellent, thank you so much for helping me |
| 20:49 |
|
chris |
np |
| 20:55 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Of course, I am missing some things |
| 20:55 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 20:55 |
|
dressedinvalue |
gcc, cc, cl.exe, "no acceptable C compiler…" |
| 20:56 |
|
chris |
ouch |
| 20:56 |
|
dressedinvalue |
That bad, eh? |
| 20:56 |
|
chris |
id email the support guys for your VPS and say, you need to insall Zebra, but there is no C compiler, how would they recommend you do it |
| 20:56 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Ok, will do |
| 21:05 |
|
myconid |
there isnt a RPM? |
| 21:06 |
|
chris |
there is one for fedora 9 which may or may not work |
| 22:31 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Chris |
| 22:32 |
|
chris |
yep? |
| 22:33 |
|
dressedinvalue |
I have communicated with my VPS support folks, and they said I can activate/install Developer's Tools: http://kb.mediatemple.net/ques[…]s+package+listing. |
| 22:33 |
|
dressedinvalue |
But I don't understand how that helps |
| 22:33 |
|
chris |
presumably it gives you a c compiler |
| 22:33 |
|
dressedinvalue |
I suppose so |
| 22:33 |
|
chris |
ah yes |
| 22:33 |
|
chris |
gcc-4.1.2-14.el5 |
| 22:33 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Ohh, I see |
| 22:35 |
|
dressedinvalue |
So, if I install Developer's Tools, than I effectively opt out of their Update Option Program, which keeps the server software up to date. I wouldn't mind if I knew more about what I am doing with the server |
| 22:35 |
|
chris |
is that the only way they suggest to install zebra? |
| 22:35 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Decisions, decisions… I hope Koha would be worth it |
| 22:35 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Yeah |
| 22:35 |
|
chris |
it might be worth asking if a fedora rpm would work |
| 22:36 |
|
dressedinvalue |
I will ask, thanks for that advice |
| 23:05 |
|
myconid |
They assume if you install devtools you will probably be installing custom versions of apache, etc. |
| 23:08 |
|
myconid |
dressedinvalue: do you do other things on this vps? |
| 23:08 |
|
dressedinvalue |
I have other websites hosted on it |
| 23:08 |
|
myconid |
Why are you installing Koha onto it? |
| 23:09 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Church library |
| 23:09 |
|
dressedinvalue |
I have been looking into different OPACs or ILSs and Koha seemed like the best |
| 23:10 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Scriblio sounded like a good idea, but didn't make any sense after I installed it |
| 23:10 |
|
myconid |
heh... im friends with the develoepr :) |
| 23:10 |
|
dressedinvalue |
haha |
| 23:10 |
|
myconid |
but I dont think its meant to be a full blown ils.. but i dunno |
| 23:10 |
|
dressedinvalue |
The documentation describes how to use WordPress, not how to use Scriblio |
| 23:11 |
|
dressedinvalue |
No, I realized it's just an OPAC, so there is no borrower-management |
| 23:13 |
|
dressedinvalue |
vufind.org looked nice but it looked more complicated than Koha, and I think it left me with the same problem as Scriblio |
| 23:14 |
|
dressedinvalue |
I'm too used to simple CMSs like WordPress, ExpressionEngine, Textpattern, etc |
| 23:28 |
|
dressedinvalue |
Here's what MediaTemple said: A Fedora RPM might work as RPMs are the standard packaging system used by CentOS. However it would depend on the RPM specific configuration to guarantee success. I would suggest checking the CentOS website or the software maker and get specifics. |
| 01:27 |
|
myconid |
How do I pick unimarc v. marc21? :) |
| 02:00 |
|
Jo |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARC_standards |
| 07:53 |
|
chris |
hdl: are you about? |
| 07:59 |
|
mason |
heya chris |
| 07:59 |
|
mason |
the biblibrians should be about v. soon.. |
| 08:00 |
|
mason |
late night ? |
| 09:14 |
|
chris |
back |
