| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:56 |
|
thd |
kados: are you there? |
| 13:21 |
|
kados |
thd: hi there |
| 13:22 |
|
thd |
kados: i spent all night the night before last only because my system s too slow and not enough RAM confirming that nothing that I had done had introduced this double encoding problem |
| 13:23 |
|
thd |
kados: before my test I considered it likely that I and not Koha was responsible |
| 13:25 |
|
kados |
what was your conclusion? |
| 13:27 |
|
thd |
kados: tumer's conclusion is that Zebra or Koha Zebra and not SQL Koha is the problem |
| 13:27 |
|
thd |
kados: Are the Afognak records in Zebra for the server that I am using? |
| 13:28 |
|
kados |
thd: no |
| 13:28 |
|
kados |
thd: that's a rel_2_2 system |
| 13:28 |
|
thd |
kados: but do you not have Zebra configured for storage there? |
| 13:29 |
|
kados |
on that server, yes |
| 13:29 |
|
kados |
but not for afognak |
| 13:29 |
|
thd |
kados: well something strange is happening |
| 13:29 |
|
kados |
thd: show me |
| 13:30 |
|
thd |
I am finding the example that I showed tumer |
| 13:31 |
|
thd |
kados: http://library.afognak.org/cgi[…]detail.pl?bib=154 |
| 13:31 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 13:31 |
|
kados |
where is the problem there? |
| 13:31 |
|
kados |
ahh, I see it now |
| 13:31 |
|
kados |
Valerie |
| 13:32 |
|
kados |
thd: have you tried manually editing that record? |
| 13:33 |
|
thd |
kados: I never touched that record to my knowledge |
| 13:33 |
|
kados |
thd: the encoding problem is in the record itself |
| 13:33 |
|
kados |
thd: when you attempt to edit it, you'll see that |
| 13:34 |
|
thd |
kados: That is the worrying thing but you can see the same record on my own system |
| 13:34 |
|
thd |
one moment |
| 13:34 |
|
kados |
but I would suspect that I ruined encoding on import |
| 13:35 |
|
kados |
or in my pre-processing script |
| 13:35 |
|
kados |
before I blamed Koha |
| 13:37 |
|
thd |
kados: tumer said he had a record with the same author in his system with the same double encoding problem |
| 13:38 |
|
thd |
kados: on my X-windows system the fonts do not display correctly for the result set but they do display correctly for the individual record |
| 13:40 |
|
thd |
kados: If you had used the bulkmarkimport.pl script which I supplied and told you to use you we should have had identical import processing between my system and Afognak |
| 13:40 |
|
thd |
s/mark/marc/ |
| 13:41 |
|
kados |
I think I used it |
| 13:41 |
|
kados |
I can't remember now |
| 13:41 |
|
kados |
it's possible my mysql for that install isn't set up to have utf8 tables |
| 13:41 |
|
thd |
kados: if I remember our discussion at the time well you had used it |
| 13:41 |
|
kados |
my new installs do, but that one may be a layover |
| 13:43 |
|
thd |
kados: that only is an issue for indexing and not for the actual string of byte content stored |
| 13:44 |
|
thd |
kados: the odd thing is that tumer has reported the same problem |
| 13:46 |
|
thd |
kados: this affects all the accented characters that I had noticed on Afognak but I had presumed the font problem for displaying in UTF-8 was the factor |
| 13:47 |
|
thd |
kados: if you have not seen this occurring elsewhere then we have to ask tumer for how he can repeat it reliably |
| 13:48 |
|
kados |
I don't think it happens elsewhere |
| 13:49 |
|
kados |
thd: http://wipoopac.liblime.com |
| 13:49 |
|
kados |
thd: take wipo for example |
| 13:50 |
|
kados |
thd: they have lots of accented chars that are just fine |
| 13:50 |
|
thd |
kados: tumer did have a problem with the record editor not clearing $9 for adding or changing an authorised heading to a bibliographic record but you would have to ask him the details which he had been discussing with hdl to know the problem more clearly |
| 13:50 |
|
thd |
\ |
| 13:56 |
|
thd |
kados: yes, I do not see anything worse than the font problem which cannot be seen on MS Windows according to tumer |
| 13:57 |
|
thd |
kados: are the WIPO records being stored in Zebra? |
| 13:57 |
|
kados |
no |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
but the tables are set to utf8 |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
also, I believe when I did afognak, i did not fully understand encoding |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
and how to manipulate it in perl |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
but by the time I did wipo's current installation, I had perfected it (mostly :-)) |
| 13:59 |
|
thd |
kados: Yet I almost completely replaced the import script that you supplied with good code which I later committed |
| 14:00 |
|
kados |
right |
| 14:01 |
|
thd |
kados: maybe it was careless kittens on the keyboard or path name priority |
| 14:02 |
|
thd |
kados: I do not think that MySQL would do this no matter what the MySQL encoding was set to it would only keep you from finding the records |
| 14:03 |
|
thd |
kados: was MARC::File:XML doing double encoding at one time? |
| 14:03 |
|
kados |
yes, because I had the wrong parser installed |
| 14:04 |
|
thd |
kados: could that have been the problem for Afognak? |
| 14:04 |
|
kados |
yes |
| 14:04 |
|
thd |
and for tumer |
| 14:06 |
|
thd |
kados: The problem was that MARC::File::XML had made some silly change and you had to update XML::SAX or what was it that needed updating? |
| 14:06 |
|
kados |
well ... |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
it's complicated |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
best refer to my email on perl4lib |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
emails |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
http://www.mail-archive.com/pe[…]org/msg01006.html |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
all is explained there |
| 14:13 |
|
thd |
kados: thanks, i will refer tumer to More Fun as the possible solution to his manifestation of the problem. |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 16:46 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 16:46 |
|
kados |
chris: check out the proof of concept faceted search results on zoomopac when you get a chance |
| 16:47 |
|
chris |
ill go look now |
| 16:48 |
|
chris |
ohh thats pretty cool |
| 17:28 |
|
slef |
chris: hehe... you don't want Italy to win? |
| 17:31 |
|
chris |
my wife does, she lived there for 6 months |
| 17:31 |
|
chris |
I dont really mind who wins, as long as they play well |
| 20:24 |
|
slef |
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| 20:24 |
|
slef |
oops |
