| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 15:48 |
|
chris |
kados: u about? |
| 15:54 |
|
rosa |
morning Chris, and Congratulations to you and Laurel |
| 15:54 |
|
chris |
thanks rosa |
| 15:54 |
|
rosa |
How is Laurel feeling? |
| 15:55 |
|
chris |
pretty good, no real morning sickness, she was pretty tired a few weeks back ... but feeling pretty normal again now |
| 15:55 |
|
rosa |
excellent |
| 22:56 |
|
kados |
chris: am now |
| 22:57 |
|
kados |
chris: if briefly |
| 22:57 |
|
chris |
heya, did you mean to commit that last commit to the rel_2_2 |
| 22:57 |
|
chris |
? |
| 22:57 |
|
chris |
it looked like it should be a dev_week one |
| 22:57 |
|
kados |
which one? |
| 22:57 |
|
chris |
Subject: [Koha-cvs] koha/z3950 processz3950queue [rel_2_2] |
| 22:58 |
|
kados |
yea... |
| 22:58 |
|
kados |
well it's debatable |
| 22:58 |
|
chris |
will it work in 2.2? |
| 22:58 |
|
kados |
if you upgrade to ZOOM, yes |
| 22:58 |
|
kados |
thing is |
| 22:58 |
|
chris |
right |
| 22:58 |
|
kados |
if someone installs Net::Z3950 now |
| 22:58 |
|
kados |
for a new install of 2.2.6 |
| 22:58 |
|
chris |
they get zoom eh? |
| 22:58 |
|
kados |
processz3950queue won't work |
| 22:58 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 22:59 |
|
chris |
ok, we should just get the version checked |
| 22:59 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 22:59 |
|
chris |
by the upgrader |
| 22:59 |
|
kados |
didn't get around to that |
| 22:59 |
|
chris |
ill take a look at that if i get a chance |
| 22:59 |
|
kados |
cool, thanks |
| 22:59 |
|
kados |
interestingly |
| 22:59 |
|
kados |
for dev-week |
| 23:00 |
|
kados |
we can basically use all the stuff I wrote for the opac |
| 23:00 |
|
kados |
for the Z3950 client |
| 23:00 |
|
chris |
sweet |
| 23:00 |
|
kados |
I just need to get the async stuff working |
| 23:00 |
|
chris |
oh quick question |
| 23:00 |
|
kados |
sure |
| 23:00 |
|
chris |
in 2.2.5 |
| 23:00 |
|
chris |
can a borrower renew from the opac? |
| 23:00 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 23:00 |
|
chris |
sweet ta |
| 23:00 |
|
kados |
can change their password too |
| 23:01 |
|
kados |
ok ... I'm gonna get some sleep |
| 23:01 |
|
kados |
chris: you might be interested in this: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]raprotocolsupport |
| 00:17 |
|
thd |
kados: when you wake up: the record editor is still crawling, but less crawling than previously |
| 00:49 |
|
Strait |
is it possible to truncate words is catalogue search? |
| 00:59 |
|
Strait |
found it... |
| 00:59 |
|
Strait |
% |
| 01:02 |
|
Strait |
and also * seems to work |
| 01:02 |
|
Strait |
i tried it with 3 letters the first time |
| 01:02 |
|
Strait |
and it requires at least 4 |
| 01:49 |
|
Comete |
hello |
| 02:00 |
|
paul |
hello world ! |
| 02:07 |
|
btoumi |
hi all |
| 02:07 |
|
btoumi |
hi dewey |
| 02:08 |
|
btoumi |
:dewey hi |
| 02:21 |
|
btoumi |
question for all |
| 02:22 |
|
btoumi |
if u have in code a call to css what we can do? |
| 02:22 |
|
btoumi |
delete line or comment it |
| 02:51 |
|
paul |
btoumi: which code & which line are u speaking of ? |
| 02:52 |
|
btoumi |
in garantor_search.tmpl |
| 02:52 |
|
btoumi |
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="<!-- TMPL_VAR name="themelang" -->/includes/common-style.css"> |
| 02:53 |
|
paul |
(on est entre francais je suppose, on peut le faire en VF) |
| 02:56 |
|
btoumi |
yes :=) |
| 02:56 |
|
btoumi |
en fait g cette ligne de code dans guarantor_search.tmpl |
| 02:56 |
|
btoumi |
ct juste pour savoir si je la faisais sautre |
| 02:56 |
|
btoumi |
sauter |
| 02:57 |
|
paul |
ben non, c'est important quand même pour charger une feuille de style. |
| 02:58 |
|
paul |
normalement, c'est complété par d'autres tmpl_if et tmpl_var (préférences systèmes) |
| 02:58 |
|
paul |
regarde dans le reste du code, tu devrais trouver ton bonheur |
| 03:00 |
|
btoumi |
c un template que g cree |
| 03:03 |
|
btoumi |
et g pas de condition c juste pour la presentation du popup |
| 03:04 |
|
paul |
alors regarde dans un autre template, et copie/colle |
| 03:04 |
|
paul |
sinon, commite comme ca, qqn corrigera bien ! |
| 03:04 |
|
btoumi |
c deja sur le cvs |
| 03:05 |
|
btoumi |
je vais voir avec d'autre template |
| 03:05 |
|
btoumi |
dans moremember.tmpl aucun appel au css |
| 03:06 |
|
btoumi |
pareil pour categorie.tmpl |
| 03:06 |
|
paul |
mmm... c'est parce que c'est dans les include ! |
| 03:09 |
|
btoumi |
exact |
| 03:09 |
|
btoumi |
c dans le doc-head-close.inc |
| 03:09 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 03:09 |
|
btoumi |
c nouveau |
| 03:09 |
|
paul |
donc, tu virres dans le guarantor_search ;-) |
| 03:10 |
|
paul |
(bonjour Comete ) |
| 03:10 |
|
btoumi |
bonjour comete |
| 03:10 |
|
btoumi |
ok ca marche merci |
| 03:11 |
|
btoumi |
par contre faut que je fasse l'include au doc-head-open et doc-head.close.inc |
| 03:11 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 03:13 |
|
btoumi |
ok c bon a savoir car je vais faire la meme chose pour borrowers-details |
| 06:42 |
|
Comete |
bonjour paul |
| 06:43 |
|
Comete |
bonjour tlm |
| 06:43 |
|
Comete |
hello all |
| 07:30 |
|
Strait |
OPAC in finnish now :) |
| 07:31 |
|
Strait |
we also have a first version of intranet in finnish in existance |
| 07:31 |
|
Strait |
to be verified and corrected tomorrow |
| 07:32 |
|
Strait |
for finnish MARC21 we will have to wait for the national library to complete the translation |
| 07:33 |
|
Strait |
we've been working with them, so Koha will be the first librarysystem in existance to have MARC21 in finnish :) |
| 07:34 |
|
Strait |
plus we've gained some friends in two significant library schools in finland |
| 07:34 |
|
Strait |
all in all it's looking pretty good for us |
| 07:42 |
|
paul |
Strait: hello |
| 07:42 |
|
dewey |
hola, paul |
| 07:42 |
|
paul |
did you use .po system to translate Koha to finnish ? |
| 07:42 |
|
Strait |
yep, .po's |
| 07:43 |
|
Strait |
why so? |
| 07:43 |
|
paul |
it's on 2.2.5 ? |
| 07:43 |
|
Strait |
the intranet was i believe 2.2.4 |
| 07:43 |
|
Strait |
opac is 2.2.5 |
| 07:43 |
|
paul |
ok, so it will be quite easy to update it for 2.2.6 |
| 07:43 |
|
Strait |
good :) |
| 07:43 |
|
Strait |
we've been having a few laughs with out intranet translation |
| 07:44 |
|
Strait |
finnish is an odd language so translations from english aren't always easy |
| 07:44 |
|
Strait |
we have no words like "from" and "to" |
| 07:44 |
|
Strait |
instead they're expressed by addinf suffixes to words |
| 07:45 |
|
Strait |
"with our intranet translation" |
| 07:45 |
|
Strait |
was what i wanted to say |
| 07:46 |
|
Strait |
we also have to break the statistical module somehow |
| 07:47 |
|
Strait |
our legislation doesn't allow us to save members reading histories and such |
| 07:50 |
|
paul |
Strait: it's the same in France. |
| 07:50 |
|
paul |
our legislation says : |
| 07:50 |
|
paul |
- when the user request it and no more than 1 year after end of subscription for patron informations |
| 07:51 |
|
paul |
- no more than 4 months after the book has been returned for issues informations. |
| 07:51 |
|
Strait |
according to ours we can only save the name and contanct information of the last borrower |
| 07:52 |
|
Strait |
and that information may only be found from the point of view of the item, not borrowers |
| 07:52 |
|
Strait |
how do you deal with it in france with koha? |
| 07:55 |
|
Strait |
i believe that the one year policy applies for patron information in finland too |
| 07:56 |
|
Strait |
although it doesn't really concern us since practically every finn has a library card in their hometown and most have a few others in other towns too |
| 07:57 |
|
Strait |
and library memberships are rarely canceled here |
| 07:57 |
|
Strait |
they're more or less lifetime deals :D |
| 07:58 |
|
Strait |
since it's completely free for everyone, there is really no reason to cancel them |
| 07:59 |
|
Strait |
in fact there should be somekind on national librarycard scheme so you wouldn't have to carry a card for every library you use |
| 07:59 |
|
Strait |
i have 8 librarycards at the moment |
| 08:00 |
|
Strait |
that can't really be said to be handy |
| 08:38 |
|
paul |
hdl around ? |
| 08:41 |
|
btoumi |
:paul what is the file search.pm in misc directory |
| 08:41 |
|
btoumi |
? |
| 08:42 |
|
paul |
sorry btoumi, but a power failure make me miss some things in irc |
| 08:42 |
|
paul |
i don't know what you're speaking about |
| 08:42 |
|
btoumi |
i have fund a file named search.pl in misc directory of head |
| 08:43 |
|
btoumi |
search.pm sorry |
| 08:43 |
|
paul |
mmm... i think it's a useless thing. |
| 08:44 |
|
btoumi |
ok i'm ok |
| 09:24 |
|
thd |
kados: are you there? |
| 09:29 |
|
kados |
thd: I am extremely busy today :( |
| 09:29 |
|
kados |
thd: got some catching up to do from last week |
| 09:30 |
|
kados |
thd: plus, I've got a meeting in Northern Ohio with a library tomorrow |
| 09:30 |
|
thd |
kados: the record editor is still buggy |
| 09:31 |
|
kados |
thd: even with paul's new commits? |
| 09:31 |
|
thd |
kados: Had you added them to Afognak? |
| 09:32 |
|
kados |
thd: I haven't had a chance |
| 09:33 |
|
thd |
kados: let me know when you have a chance and I will test again |
| 09:34 |
|
kados |
thd: ok, maybe later today ... after the madness stops :-) |
| 09:34 |
|
kados |
thd: what was the bug you found? |
| 09:34 |
|
kados |
thd: withthe current version? |
| 09:34 |
|
thd |
kados: thanks for form access to copy number and the individual call number parts |
| 09:35 |
|
kados |
?? |
| 09:36 |
|
thd |
kados: I found with a newly created record even that more than 2 subfields would be divided between multiple fields after saving. |
| 09:37 |
|
thd |
kados: I think that the editor may not be recognising that it is in UTF-8 |
| 09:38 |
|
kados |
thd: it _must_ have an 'a' in position 9 |
| 09:38 |
|
kados |
thd: otherwise, I think it will do some strange things |
| 09:39 |
|
thd |
kados: When I opened a UTF-8 leader with an a in position 9 the leader plugin initial reported it as MARC8. |
| 09:39 |
|
thd |
s/initial/first/ |
| 09:40 |
|
thd |
kados: something is not recognising the value actually in the leader. |
| 09:41 |
|
kados |
thd: not sure I understand |
| 09:42 |
|
thd |
kados: the leader was a valid UTF-8 leader but the leader plugin reported otherwise the first time I opened the leader in the plugin. |
| 09:42 |
|
kados |
interesting |
| 09:42 |
|
kados |
are you 100% sure it was a valid UTF-8 leader? |
| 09:43 |
|
thd |
kados: I did not test that aspect repeatedly but I did notice it. |
| 09:43 |
|
thd |
kados:99% |
| 09:45 |
|
kados |
if you can find a record that reporduces the problem I'd be happy to take a look at it |
| 09:46 |
|
thd |
kados: How Alaska Got Its Flag |
| 09:46 |
|
thd |
kados: I input that record completely manually |
| 09:48 |
|
thd |
kados: 600s should look like .. |
| 09:48 |
|
thd |
650 0 $a Flags $z Alaska $v Juvenile literature. |
| 09:48 |
|
thd |
600 10 $a Benson, Benny $v Juvenile literature. |
| 09:48 |
|
thd |
651 0 $a Alaska $x History $v Juvenile literature. |
| 09:48 |
|
thd |
651 0 $a Alaska $v Biography $v Juvenile literature. |
| 09:51 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 09:51 |
|
kados |
I'm not sure MARCdetail.pl preserves record order |
| 09:51 |
|
kados |
in the display |
| 09:52 |
|
kados |
also, there is no way to create a 650 before a 600 in the current editor :-) |
| 09:52 |
|
thd |
kados: In the case of the repeated $v, repeating duplicates the value originally in the subfield or in the last repeated subfield even after subsequent editing of the value. That was not the worst problem of course. |
| 09:53 |
|
kados |
thd: yes, I believe paul fixed that, but I haven't checked |
| 09:53 |
|
paul |
kados: & thd : yes, it's fixed ;-) |
| 09:53 |
|
kados |
paul++ |
| 09:53 |
|
kados |
paul: when is the release of 2.2.6 scheduled? |
| 09:54 |
|
paul |
i hope this week for a RC, installed in one of my libraries |
| 09:54 |
|
kados |
paul: i have recently discovered bugs in acquisitions (need to test if they exist in the default or just npl templates) |
| 09:54 |
|
paul |
but IPT has found a new bug in MARC editor, that i'm investigating |
| 09:55 |
|
thd |
kados: I was not concerned with the field order although you can see that the record should not have a personal name subject as its primary subject. |
| 09:55 |
|
btoumi |
bye all |
| 09:55 |
|
thd |
good bye btoumi |
| 09:55 |
|
btoumi |
bye thd |
| 09:57 |
|
thd |
kados: the real problems were finding subfields moved to different fields after saving. |
| 09:59 |
|
thd |
kados: When I attempted to show you this problem in France, you had noticed that the particular example did not have a UTF-8 leader. |
| 10:00 |
|
thd |
kados: I suspect there were two few cases of non-UTF-8 leaders for that to have been the problem every time I had observed it. |
| 10:01 |
|
thd |
kados: I think the system is failing to recognise that the leader is Unicode even when it clearly is set correctly. |
| 10:02 |
|
thd |
kados: This Alaskan flag book does not even have anything other than ASCII characters. |
| 10:20 |
|
thd |
kados: were you unaware of having changed the items editor template to provide editor access to the subfields that I had requested? |
| 10:21 |
|
thd |
kados: you had written ?? after I thanked you. |
| 10:27 |
|
kados |
ahh ... |
| 10:27 |
|
dewey |
i guess ahh ... is that how 'snapshots' are done? |
| 10:28 |
|
kados |
dewey: forget ahh |
| 10:28 |
|
dewey |
kados, I didn't have anything matching ahh |
| 10:28 |
|
kados |
dewey: forget ahh ... |
| 10:28 |
|
dewey |
kados, I didn't have anything matching ahh |
| 10:28 |
|
kados |
heh |
| 10:28 |
|
kados |
thd: I was unaware of changing the items editor template, maybe Ryan did it |
| 10:29 |
|
thd |
thank you Ryan, just what I had requested |
| 10:31 |
|
thd |
kados: now you can have respectable looking items in addition to the ones already generated by a script. |
| 10:35 |
|
thd |
kados: there was actually one items subfield that I had requested which is still not included. The one for source of acquisition is still not there so I had been adding that to public note, lacking private note. |
| 10:53 |
|
kados |
owen: I've got some info from ID on improving the default 'simple search' |
| 10:53 |
|
kados |
owen: it'll take me a day or so to implement it |
| 10:54 |
|
kados |
owen: soon as that's done, i think we can announce it to the staff |
| 10:56 |
|
paul |
bye bye world, see you tomorrow morning |
