| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:51 |
|
owen |
kados: you around? |
| 14:08 |
|
kados |
owen: am now |
| 14:09 |
|
owen |
What's the status of the 'you did not specify any search criteria' thing? |
| 14:09 |
|
owen |
do I need to take that out of the template until we can get a working substitute? |
| 14:10 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 14:10 |
|
kados |
afaik it happens for quite a few searches |
| 14:10 |
|
kados |
but it's related to the 'searchdesc' var not getting populated, right? |
| 14:10 |
|
kados |
it's probably not difficult to fix, it would just take a bit of time |
| 14:12 |
|
owen |
Since it's a very visible bug I'm inclined to take it out of the NPL templates until it can be fixed. |
| 14:12 |
|
owen |
But I don't want to lose sight of it :) |
| 14:12 |
|
kados |
right :-) |
| 14:20 |
|
owen |
I'm going to Bug it. Should I be using 'branch 2.2' as the version? |
| 14:22 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 02:35 |
|
osmoze |
hello |
| 02:36 |
|
mason |
quiety quiet here :) |
| 02:36 |
|
mason |
hi ozmoze |
| 02:36 |
|
mason |
osmoze even |
| 02:37 |
|
mason |
its the start of a loong weekend here in NZ |
| 02:37 |
|
osmoze |
not here :( |
| 02:39 |
|
mason |
im having my first beer to celebrate :) |
| 02:45 |
|
osmoze |
hoooooo, don't speak about beer...it's very hard to forget my beer of yesterday with my coffee |
| 03:59 |
|
pierrick |
paul, HTML::Template->new() : Cannot open included file javascript/members.js : file not found. at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Template.pm line 2178., referer: http://plegall:8080/cgi-bin/ko[…]s/members-home.pl |
| 04:37 |
|
hdl |
pierrick: as-tu toujours le problème ? |
| 04:40 |
|
pierrick |
as-tu rajouté le fichier ? je ne le vois pas CVS |
| 04:40 |
|
pierrick |
(salut hdl) |
| 04:40 |
|
hdl |
salut pierrick |
| 04:41 |
|
pierrick |
(je bosse sur la 2.2 du coup, parce que sur HEAD, sans javascript, on ne peut pas valider le formulaire, oh misère :-/) |
| 04:42 |
|
hdl |
pierrick: le member.js doit se trouver dans le includes du koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/default/en/ |
| 04:42 |
|
pierrick |
??? |
| 04:42 |
|
hdl |
Ca doit être un oubli d'owen ou autres au moment du passage de default à prog. |
| 04:43 |
|
pierrick |
pierrick plegall:~/dev/koha/head$ find . -name members.js |
| 04:43 |
|
pierrick |
ne retourne rien |
| 04:53 |
|
btoumi |
hello |
| 04:53 |
|
btoumi |
i'm bruno from SAN OP |
| 04:54 |
|
chris |
hello bruno |
| 04:54 |
|
btoumi |
not in bed (from paul that is near me) |
| 04:54 |
|
btoumi |
? |
| 04:55 |
|
chris |
not yet |
| 04:55 |
|
btoumi |
hi chris (it's paul) |
| 04:55 |
|
chris |
paul will understand, its rugby season |
| 04:55 |
|
btoumi |
ah;, ok |
| 04:55 |
|
chris |
super 14 week 11 .. getting near to finals time |
| 04:55 |
|
btoumi |
OM won 3-0 yesterday. Soccer, semi final cup for Coupe de France |
| 04:55 |
|
chris |
paul, ill finish my speeches off tomorrow and email them to you |
| 04:56 |
|
btoumi |
great, thnx |
| 04:57 |
|
chris |
congrats to OM :) |
| 04:58 |
|
pierrick |
Hi chris, btoumi and paul |
| 04:59 |
|
chris |
je ne comprends pas |
| 04:59 |
|
btoumi |
salut pierrick moi c bruno de ouest provence je suis avec paul |
| 04:59 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 05:01 |
|
pierrick |
bonjour Bruno, j'avais compris :-) |
| 05:02 |
|
btoumi |
ok |
| 05:16 |
|
btoumi |
bye everybody |
| 05:19 |
|
chris |
bye bruno |
| 05:20 |
|
btoumi |
bye chris and good night |
| 06:42 |
|
paul |
hello world, i'm back |
| 07:51 |
|
kados |
hi paul |
| 07:51 |
|
paul |
hi kados |
| 07:51 |
|
paul |
'morning |
| 08:11 |
|
kados |
morning thd |
| 08:20 |
|
pierrick |
hi kados |
| 08:20 |
|
pierrick |
hi thd |
| 08:21 |
|
pierrick |
paul, I have a problem with members.j |
| 08:21 |
|
pierrick |
members.js |
| 08:21 |
|
pierrick |
to validate a "add a member" form |
| 08:24 |
|
thd |
hello pierrick and kados |
| 08:24 |
|
hdl |
So Who has sthg to declare about member.js |
| 08:24 |
|
hdl |
hello kados and thd. |
| 08:25 |
|
thd |
hello hdl |
| 08:28 |
|
pierrick |
hdl, paul must have members.js somewhere, he would have commited without testing the page :-) |
| 08:28 |
|
pierrick |
s/would/wouldn't/ |
| 08:29 |
|
pierrick |
I suppose he only forget to add to CVS |
| 08:31 |
|
hdl |
weird enough... I donot have any cvs message talking about members.js. |
| 08:31 |
|
paul |
pierrick: you're right. It's fixed |
| 08:34 |
|
paul |
pierrick: do you know docuwiki well ? |
| 08:34 |
|
paul |
=> how to create a "level 2 list" ? |
| 08:34 |
|
paul |
(a sublist below a main list) |
| 08:35 |
|
pierrick |
paul, I know Dokuwiki very well :-) (using it at least) |
| 08:35 |
|
pierrick |
* level1 |
| 08:35 |
|
pierrick |
* level1.1 |
| 08:35 |
|
pierrick |
* level1.2 |
| 08:35 |
|
pierrick |
* level2 |
| 08:35 |
|
paul |
with 2 more spaces ? |
| 08:35 |
|
pierrick |
yp |
| 08:35 |
|
pierrick |
yes |
| 08:36 |
|
paul |
much more easier than previous wiki. |
| 08:37 |
|
pierrick |
:-D |
| 08:38 |
|
pierrick |
about bug 659 (age limitations of borrower categories not taken into account), I propose to fix it only on HEAD |
| 08:39 |
|
pierrick |
The bug is minor and old, they can wait for 3.0 |
| 08:39 |
|
pierrick |
paul, as 2.2 release maintainer, do you agree? |
| 08:39 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 08:42 |
|
pierrick |
go go go :-) |
| 08:45 |
|
kados |
pierrick: I agree |
| 08:45 |
|
kados |
pierrick: is the wiki.koha.org site ready in your opinion? |
| 08:46 |
|
kados |
pierrick: if so, can you announce it on koha-devel and request that the old one forward to the new address? |
| 08:46 |
|
pierrick |
kados, yes of course |
| 08:46 |
|
pierrick |
we've lost some bits of information but not very much |
| 08:47 |
|
pierrick |
because once the temporary migration was made, someone added information in the temporary wiki and other added info in the old wiki |
| 08:48 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 08:49 |
|
kados |
i suppose we could request that person add to the new wiki, eh? :-) |
| 08:49 |
|
paul |
kados: I hope it's ready : I use it only !!! |
| 08:49 |
|
pierrick |
but much more informations have been added to the new wiki |
| 08:49 |
|
kados |
ok, good |
| 08:49 |
|
kados |
so we need to make an unambiguous announcement |
| 08:50 |
|
kados |
and also have the maintainer of the old wiki forward the url to the new wiki if at all possible |
| 08:50 |
|
pierrick |
kados, can you turn on registration on the wiki? (so that our logins are displayed next to our commit messages) |
| 08:50 |
|
kados |
yes |
| 08:52 |
|
paul |
pierrick: ++ |
| 08:52 |
|
paul |
(I searched where I could identify myself so many minuts ! ) |
| 08:55 |
|
kados |
pierrick: how do I turn it on? |
| 08:55 |
|
kados |
pierrick: I see: |
| 08:55 |
|
kados |
$conf['openregister']= 1; |
| 08:58 |
|
pierrick |
let me see in my local copy... |
| 08:58 |
|
kados |
thx |
| 09:00 |
|
pierrick |
$conf['useacl'] = 1 |
| 09:03 |
|
kados |
pierrick: ok, it's added |
| 09:03 |
|
kados |
hi tumer |
| 09:04 |
|
kados |
pierrick: but it gives an error :/ |
| 09:04 |
|
kados |
pierrick: User authentication is temporarily unavailable. If this situation persists, please inform your Wiki Admin. |
| 09:04 |
|
pierrick |
yes, I've seen |
| 09:05 |
|
pierrick |
1. cd conf; cp acl.auth.php.dist acl.auth.php |
| 09:05 |
|
pierrick |
2 cp users.auth.php.dist users.auth.php |
| 09:05 |
|
pierrick |
3. chmod a+w users.auth.php |
| 09:06 |
|
pierrick |
(that's enough) |
| 09:06 |
|
kados |
pierrick: done |
| 09:08 |
|
pierrick |
$ cat users.auth.php |
| 09:08 |
|
pierrick |
thank you Joshua :-) |
| 09:09 |
|
paul |
kados & al : i've recieved tumer registration to KohaCon (2/3 may) 2 hours ago. |
| 09:10 |
|
kados |
pierrick: it's working |
| 09:10 |
|
paul |
kados: am I missing someone to devWeek : I thought we would be 16+Annaw, and I see 16 INCLUDING annaW. |
| 09:10 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 09:10 |
|
paul |
that's very important, as 15 means 3 cars while 16 means 4 ! |
| 09:11 |
|
kados |
right |
| 09:11 |
|
kados |
where is the list posted? |
| 09:11 |
|
paul |
(on the new wiki !) |
| 09:13 |
|
kados |
paul: I'm going to edit the list slightly |
| 09:13 |
|
kados |
paul: to add affiliations |
| 09:14 |
|
kados |
paul: do you have a company name? |
| 09:14 |
|
paul |
I'll add a page in the next minuts with some ideas for devWeek. |
| 09:14 |
|
paul |
no, i'm just myself ;-) |
| 09:16 |
|
kados |
paul: tumer is not on that list |
| 09:16 |
|
paul |
right, but it's registration is only for 2/3 for instance |
| 09:17 |
|
kados |
ahh, I'm looking at the wrong list |
| 09:17 |
|
paul |
(i've asked by pm if he comes to devWeek too, but no answer yet) |
| 09:17 |
|
tumer |
hi all |
| 09:17 |
|
kados |
tumer: you are joining us at the dev week right? |
| 09:17 |
|
kados |
tumer: what is the name of your library again? |
| 09:17 |
|
paul |
hi tumer. |
| 09:17 |
|
tumer |
I have to choose one or the other, wha do you suggest |
| 09:18 |
|
paul |
the devWeek, for sure ! |
| 09:18 |
|
kados |
tumer: I suggest the dev week |
| 09:18 |
|
kados |
tumer: we could really use your skills :-) |
| 09:18 |
|
tumer |
OK být can not stay all week |
| 09:18 |
|
kados |
no problem |
| 09:18 |
|
paul |
how long could you stay ? |
| 09:18 |
|
tumer |
say 3 days |
| 09:19 |
|
kados |
tumer: let me know _which_ three days, and we'll make sure to have Zebra the priority for those three days |
| 09:19 |
|
tumer |
kados: Near East university Grand library |
| 09:20 |
|
kados |
tumer: thanks |
| 09:20 |
|
tumer |
kados: and its in Cyprus not Turkey |
| 09:20 |
|
kados |
ahh ... my bad :/ |
| 09:21 |
|
paul |
tumer: May 8th is closed in France. So it would be better to come for 9th-11 for example. |
| 09:21 |
|
tumer |
kados: I'll try and make the first 3 days |
| 09:22 |
|
tumer |
why I am closing aout repeteadly |
| 09:22 |
|
paul |
tumer: 8-10 will be OK. |
| 09:22 |
|
paul |
which is your closest international airport ? |
| 09:23 |
|
tumer |
Larnaca |
| 09:24 |
|
tumer |
I have to fly to Paris and then travel to Marseiles. My plane will arrive Paris around 15:00 so I may come on 7th Sunday |
| 09:25 |
|
tumer |
Is there a problem with IRC its throwing me out |
| 09:25 |
|
kados |
tumer: which IRC client are you using? |
| 09:25 |
|
paul |
tumer: cheapest, although longest seems to use lufthansa : larnaca => athens=> franckfort=> marseille (9AM => 18:45) |
| 09:25 |
|
tumer |
IceChat |
| 09:26 |
|
paul |
no, alitalia is the best : |
| 09:26 |
|
paul |
larnaca => roma => marseille (9:15 => 14:20) |
| 09:26 |
|
paul |
780¤ |
| 09:26 |
|
tumer |
via roma sounds interesting |
| 09:27 |
|
paul |
return trip : |
| 09:27 |
|
paul |
ALITALIA De: Marseille (MRS) Départ: 06:20 10/05/2006 |
| 09:27 |
|
paul |
Classe Economique A: Larnaca (LCA) Arrivée: 17:55 10/05/2006 |
| 09:28 |
|
tumer |
Thanks paul I'll look into it |
| 09:40 |
|
paul |
kados: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=devweek |
| 09:41 |
|
kados |
paul++ |
| 09:41 |
|
kados |
paul: I posted a mail to koha-devel regarding the dev week |
| 09:42 |
|
kados |
paul: but this document is better :-) |
| 09:42 |
|
paul |
when did you posted this mail ? |
| 09:42 |
|
kados |
earlier today |
| 09:43 |
|
paul |
did not reach me yet |
| 09:43 |
|
kados |
:/ |
| 09:47 |
|
paul |
pierrick: you've commited something that requires Date::Calc |
| 09:47 |
|
paul |
we used DateManip for 2.2, but want to get rid of it because it's VERY VERY VERY slow. |
| 09:48 |
|
paul |
do you think Date::Calc is a good replacement ? we've been told that the default date package for Perl is the best to use |
| 09:48 |
|
paul |
(question asked on fr.comp.os.perl by me 3 months ago) |
| 09:48 |
|
pierrick |
I didn't take into account performance problem, sorry |
| 09:49 |
|
paul |
it's a very important problem, as date calcs are in the middle of circulation |
| 09:49 |
|
pierrick |
the function is used is very simple, so I can replace it by core functions if you prefer |
| 09:49 |
|
paul |
and it's the module that requires the best perfs |
| 09:58 |
|
hdl |
article mis en ligne. |
| 10:28 |
|
kados |
paul: still there? |
| 10:28 |
|
paul |
for sure |
| 10:29 |
|
kados |
paul: just recieved a call from NBBC |
| 10:29 |
|
kados |
paul: it seems that the numbering formula: |
| 10:29 |
|
kados |
Vol. {X}, No,{Y} |
| 10:29 |
|
kados |
X isn't increased as Y changes |
| 10:30 |
|
kados |
they have: |
| 10:30 |
|
kados |
X Y |
| 10:30 |
|
kados |
Add: 1 1 |
| 10:30 |
|
kados |
Once 6 1 |
| 10:30 |
|
kados |
when > 999 9 |
| 10:30 |
|
kados |
loop is 2 0 |
| 10:31 |
|
kados |
set back to 1 1 |
| 10:31 |
|
kados |
last value 294 2 |
| 10:31 |
|
paul |
X should increase once every 6 issues. |
| 10:31 |
|
kados |
correct |
| 10:31 |
|
kados |
but it doesn't |
| 10:31 |
|
kados |
subscription length is '6' |
| 10:32 |
|
paul |
mmm... how many issues did you "recieve" already ? |
| 10:32 |
|
kados |
could that be the problem? |
| 10:32 |
|
kados |
'the loop is for instance:' 2 |
| 10:32 |
|
paul |
mmm... probably : when you reach end of subscription, you can't change the status of the "waited" issue anymore. |
| 10:32 |
|
paul |
but koha should told you this |
| 10:32 |
|
paul |
(& add a button to "renew subscription") |
| 10:33 |
|
kados |
well ... when 'end of subscription' is reached, koha asks if you want to renew |
| 10:33 |
|
kados |
I assume they answered 'yes' |
| 10:33 |
|
kados |
only two issues for this specific example |
| 10:33 |
|
paul |
so, the subscription should en in 6 more issues. |
| 10:33 |
|
kados |
Vol 294, No. 6 |
| 10:34 |
|
paul |
s/end/en/ |
| 10:34 |
|
kados |
Vol 295, No. 1 |
| 10:34 |
|
kados |
are listed correctly in serial-issues.pl? |
| 10:34 |
|
kados |
strange |
| 10:36 |
|
paul |
if you have an access to their DB, you could look in issues table if there isn't something hidden |
| 10:43 |
|
kados |
paul: ok, I confirm it's a problem |
| 10:43 |
|
kados |
I created a new serial |
| 10:44 |
|
kados |
set beginning value for X to 294 and for Y to '6' |
| 10:44 |
|
kados |
(ie, the first issue they keep track of is the last one in a series) |
| 10:44 |
|
kados |
when issue 6 is set to 'arrived' |
| 10:45 |
|
kados |
next issue should be Vol 295 no 1 |
| 10:45 |
|
kados |
but in fact it's still Vol 294 No 1 |
| 10:45 |
|
kados |
so X didn't update |
| 10:45 |
|
kados |
ha! |
| 10:46 |
|
kados |
when it gets to 294 No 5 |
| 10:46 |
|
kados |
next issue is 295 no 6 |
| 10:46 |
|
kados |
definitely a bug |
| 10:46 |
|
kados |
so it seems the only way to properly enter a subscription is to start with Vol X no 1 |
| 10:46 |
|
kados |
otherwise it fails |
| 10:46 |
|
kados |
paul: can you confirm the bug? |
| 10:46 |
|
kados |
if so, I'll file a bug report |
| 10:48 |
|
kados |
hdl: did you notice it before I mentioned it? |
| 10:48 |
|
kados |
hdl: or did you just now try it? |
| 10:48 |
|
hdl |
You mentioned it months ago. |
| 10:48 |
|
hdl |
But I never had time to work on it. |
| 10:49 |
|
hdl |
I think it is not a very simple bug. |
| 10:49 |
|
kados |
right ... |
| 10:50 |
|
kados |
I'll tell my client the simple workaround |
| 10:50 |
|
kados |
and file a bug report |
| 10:50 |
|
hdl |
Filing a bug, you won't forget anymore ;) |
| 10:50 |
|
kados |
heh |
| 10:51 |
|
paul |
kados & hdl : ok, good analysis. I think it's not as complex to fix (just enable the library to fill the "inner loop" field. |
| 10:51 |
|
kados |
hdl: IMO, this is a very common kind of bug in Koha |
| 10:51 |
|
kados |
paul: ahh ... yes that may fix it |
| 10:52 |
|
paul |
the more complex will be to do something a library will understand & be able to deal with easily ! |
| 10:52 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 10:52 |
|
kados |
serials are quite complex already :-) |
| 10:55 |
|
kados |
paul: shouldn't the inner loop always start as the same as 'begins with'? |
| 10:55 |
|
paul |
no |
| 10:56 |
|
paul |
let me explain : |
| 10:56 |
|
kados |
ok, I don't understand, but I don't mind not understanding in this case ;-) |
| 10:56 |
|
kados |
sure, you can explain |
| 10:56 |
|
paul |
add 1 once every 12, start with 2006 |
| 10:56 |
|
paul |
means you will have 12 times 2006 |
| 10:56 |
|
kados |
right |
| 10:57 |
|
paul |
what we need is "OK, we have 12 times a year, but we BEGIN at the issue 4, so for the 1st year, we will have only 8" |
| 10:57 |
|
kados |
but I guess that just means 'begin each loop' with |
| 10:57 |
|
paul |
no, it's the value for the 1st issue. |
| 10:57 |
|
paul |
and this value is repeated 12 times. |
| 10:58 |
|
paul |
where you want to repeat it only 8 times, because you start in the middle of a year |
| 11:03 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 11:04 |
|
kados |
the client has entered in several dozen serials with 'begins with' set incorrectly :/ |
| 11:04 |
|
kados |
it seems they have not choice but to re-enter them all manually |
| 11:05 |
|
kados |
in fact, I don't see what the purpose of 'begins with' is |
| 11:05 |
|
kados |
it seems redundent when you already have 'when more than' and 'set back to' |
| 11:06 |
|
paul |
it's the 1st value to use. |
| 11:06 |
|
paul |
nope. |
| 11:06 |
|
kados |
but 'set back to' is always the same as 'begins with' |
| 11:06 |
|
paul |
it deals with the following case : |
| 11:06 |
|
paul |
let me explain ;-) |
| 11:06 |
|
kados |
ok :-) |
| 11:06 |
|
paul |
you begin in april. |
| 11:07 |
|
paul |
so your serials will be : |
| 11:07 |
|
paul |
2006-4, 2006-5, 2006-6 ... 2006-12 |
| 11:07 |
|
paul |
thus : |
| 11:07 |
|
paul |
begins with 4 |
| 11:07 |
|
paul |
when more than 12 |
| 11:07 |
|
paul |
set back to 1 |
| 11:07 |
|
paul |
for Y the fact that you begin in the middle of the year is correctly managed. |
| 11:08 |
|
kados |
yes, for Y only though |
| 11:08 |
|
paul |
but for X it is not (due to the missing of inner loop) |
| 11:08 |
|
kados |
I see |
| 11:08 |
|
kados |
but I still think inner loop could be the same as 'begins with' for Y |
| 11:08 |
|
kados |
or at least it could be calculated |
| 11:08 |
|
kados |
based on the values in the form |
| 11:10 |
|
paul |
you may be right. |
| 11:10 |
|
paul |
but that would be very hard to manage efficiently & without bugs ! |
| 11:10 |
|
paul |
the best would be to have the wizard katipo is working on... |
| 11:10 |
|
kados |
yes, I agree |
| 11:14 |
|
kados |
paul: IMO this is a very common bug in Koha |
| 11:14 |
|
kados |
paul: a feature is 'advertised' as working, when in fact, it does not work |
| 11:14 |
|
paul |
what do you mean by "common" ? |
| 11:15 |
|
kados |
I mean there are many examples of similar bugs |
| 11:15 |
|
kados |
to the client, it looks like 'begins with' works correctly |
| 11:15 |
|
paul |
if the problem is not reported by anyone, it can't be fixed ! nobody reported this one (& I don't remember you already speak of this as hdl says) |
| 11:16 |
|
kados |
and there is no warning to say 'it doesn't work at all' |
| 11:16 |
|
kados |
so your clients who use serials always start subscriptions with No. 1? |
| 11:16 |
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paul |
mmm... it's not "it doesn't work at all" => if you start your subscription at the beginning of a year, it works ! |
| 11:16 |
|
kados |
'begins with' doesn't work |
| 11:16 |
|
kados |
it only accepts one value |
| 11:17 |
|
paul |
yes, it seems (although it's not because I told them to do like this !) |
| 11:17 |
|
kados |
so IMO it shouldn't allow entry of inproper values |
| 11:17 |
|
paul |
i disagree with you : it's really "begins with 2006", BUT "use this only 8 times, not 12 as usual" |
| 11:18 |
|
kados |
perhaps I'm missunderstanding the purpose of 'begins with' |
| 11:18 |
|
kados |
I thought it was supposed to be used to tell Koha which issue the subscription is starting with |
| 11:19 |
|
kados |
ie, I'm starting with Vol. 245 No. 1 |
| 11:19 |
|
kados |
or I'm starting with Vol 245 No. 4 |
| 11:19 |
|
paul |
then X start with 245. |
| 11:19 |
|
kados |
if it only accepts Vol. X No. 1 and not Vol X. No Y ...it should clearly tell the user that |
| 11:19 |
|
kados |
it should not accept a Y value for 'begins with' other than 1 |
| 11:20 |
|
paul |
except you have numbering highly more complex than this one ! |
| 11:20 |
|
paul |
with X / Y and Z, each having it's own numbering formula |
| 11:20 |
|
kados |
of course, but I only deal with one simple case |
| 11:20 |
|
paul |
i've already encountered tihngs like this : |
| 11:20 |
|
kados |
so for example, say I buy a new subscription, it will not start at issue #1 |
| 11:21 |
|
kados |
most likely it will start in the middle of the year |
| 11:21 |
|
paul |
X = year Y = quarter (from school pov : 1 is sept-> dec, 2 is jan->march), Z=month |
| 11:21 |
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kados |
so Vol 230 #6 maybe |
| 11:21 |
|
kados |
so do I 'lie' to Koha and say I started av Vol 230 #1? |
| 11:21 |
|
kados |
just to make sure that the numbering formula is correct? |
| 11:21 |
|
kados |
or do I wait until Vol 231 to start keeping track in Koha? |
| 11:22 |
|
kados |
(ie, 6 issues/months where the serial is not managed in Koha) |
| 11:22 |
|
kados |
(yes, that example is quite complex I agree) |
| 11:23 |
|
kados |
so for Koha 2.X, let's be unambiguous about it for 2.4 |
| 11:23 |
|
paul |
they coud just create the subscription and then modify it (inner loop) |
| 11:23 |
|
kados |
'begins with' ONLY WORKS FOR X values |
| 11:24 |
|
paul |
for example : 2006 #6 during creation |
| 11:24 |
|
paul |
then modify the subscription & enter the correct inner loop that is set to 1. |
| 11:24 |
|
kados |
inner loop in that example should be 6? |
| 11:24 |
|
paul |
if you have a monthly issue & are in july => set it to 12-6 |
| 11:24 |
|
paul |
right ! |
| 11:25 |
|
paul |
as innerloop will grow until it reaches 12 (whereas 2006 will become 2007) |
| 11:25 |
|
paul |
(and innerloop be back to 1) |
| 11:25 |
|
kados |
so IMO inner loop is always the same as 'begins with' for subscriptions with only X and Y |
| 11:25 |
|
paul |
you can't say this, because (at least in france), you often have ! |
| 11:25 |
|
paul |
: |
| 11:25 |
|
paul |
N° 1-2006 |
| 11:25 |
|
paul |
so X & Y are inverted ! |
| 11:25 |
|
kados |
ahh! |
| 11:26 |
|
kados |
I didn't notice that case |
| 11:26 |
|
paul |
no, the good solution is to let the librarian enter innerloop is (s)he want to start a subscription in the middle of a "year" |
| 11:27 |
|
paul |
but it will be hard to explain clearly !!! |
| 11:27 |
|
kados |
right ... I understand now |
| 11:27 |
|
kados |
so temporary workaround is to modify inner loop |
| 11:30 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 11:32 |
|
kados |
ok, called the client, they are happy with this solution |
| 11:32 |
|
paul |
great ! |
| 11:32 |
|
kados |
thanks paul! |
| 11:33 |
|
paul |
your welcome. |
| 11:33 |
|
kados |
for 2.4 IMO there should be a notice in red letters warning of this issue |
| 11:33 |
|
kados |
at the very least, it should be in the help file |
| 11:33 |
|
paul |
(would be easier to add the innerloop in form & find something explanatory) |
| 11:40 |
|
kados |
paul: do you plan to do this for 2.4? |
| 11:40 |
|
paul |
I did not, but now I may ;-) |
| 11:40 |
|
paul |
(however, devWeek will happend before 2.4, so let's speak of it during devweek !!!) |
| 11:42 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 11:49 |
|
kados |
paul: we will have internet access for 100% certain at devweek, right? |
| 11:49 |
|
kados |
via wifi? |
| 11:50 |
|
paul |
for sure we will have web access |
| 11:50 |
|
kados |
great |
| 11:50 |
|
paul |
via wifi or maybe without wifi too. |
| 11:50 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 11:50 |
|
paul |
we should have 2 16ports hubs |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
paul: did tumer tell you what dates he will attend? |
| 11:51 |
|
paul |
& we will be inside a university, so something like 100MB+ network |
| 11:51 |
|
paul |
(renater network) |
| 11:51 |
|
paul |
kados: no, he just spoke of arriving on sunday 7th |
| 11:51 |
|
paul |
but not sure |
| 11:52 |
|
kados |
for groups ... |
| 11:52 |
|
kados |
maybe one group for Zebra |
| 11:52 |
|
kados |
Tumer, Chris, Me, You? |
| 11:52 |
|
kados |
HDL and Pierrick maybe? |
| 11:53 |
|
paul |
not me+hdl in the same group I think |
| 11:53 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 11:53 |
|
paul |
I thought pierrick could work on installer |
| 11:53 |
|
kados |
will slef attend? |
| 11:53 |
|
paul |
he registered for paris |
| 11:53 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 11:54 |
|
kados |
slef: are you here? |
| 11:54 |
|
kados |
slef: will you be attending DevWeek in Marseille? |
| 11:59 |
|
kados |
paul: is there any way to generate a list of all current subscriptions in Koha? |
| 11:59 |
|
kados |
paul: a secret search perhaps? :-) |
| 11:59 |
|
paul |
% |
| 11:59 |
|
paul |
:-) |
| 11:59 |
|
kados |
ahh ... |
| 11:59 |
|
kados |
it works! |
| 11:59 |
|
kados |
great! |
