| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 14:55 |
|
kados |
paul: if you're still around ... I've a question about subject searching again |
| 14:55 |
|
kados |
paul: http://opactest.wlpl.org/cgi-b[…]tail.pl?bib=12722 |
| 14:55 |
|
kados |
paul: the subjects listed on the normal view are: |
| 14:55 |
|
kados |
Linux -- Sears |
| 14:55 |
|
kados |
Computer operating systems -- Sears -- Sistemas de Operacion de computadoras |
| 14:55 |
|
kados |
Small business -- Data processing -- Sears -- |
| 14:55 |
|
kados |
but ... in the MARC view they are: |
| 14:56 |
|
kados |
650$a: Computer operating systems |
| 14:56 |
|
kados |
650$x: Sistemas de Operacion de computadoras |
| 14:56 |
|
kados |
650$a: Small business |
| 14:56 |
|
kados |
650$x: Data processing |
| 14:57 |
|
kados |
the so there is some strangeness there ... also |
| 14:57 |
|
kados |
I suspect that the default MARC view isn't displaying all the subject fields for some raeson |
| 17:53 |
|
owen |
Isn't there a way to compare a string in mysql to concatenated fields? SELECT id FROM table WHERE lastname+firstname = 'LeonardOwen' Something like that? |
| 18:55 |
|
quubba |
Can someone give a good hint about what could be wrong when the perl scripts of my koha keep on running indefinitely even though the page itself has loaded in to the browser? Also, the pages are loading veeery slowly (if at all), and after I've browsed a few pages thru in the koha, I have a number of http requests still running in Apache. |
| 20:55 |
|
thd |
kados: I can answer your subject questions |
| 21:01 |
|
thd |
quubba: Are you having problems with every possible page or just some in particular? |
| 23:01 |
|
kados |
thd: please do |
| 02:39 |
|
thd |
sorry kados, I fell asleep earlier. |
| 02:55 |
|
kados |
thd: still waiting for the answer :-) |
| 03:01 |
|
thd |
kados: you are still awake :) |
| 03:02 |
|
thd |
kados: You have Sears subject headings in your example |
| 03:03 |
|
thd |
kados: Sears subject headings do not have a place in the second indicator for specifying them as Sears |
| 03:05 |
|
thd |
kados: The Library of Congress Subject Headings would only use 650 #1 where the 1 in the second indicator designates it as LC. |
| 03:07 |
|
thd |
kados: In the case of Sears, no indicator is provided, therefore, $2 is used instead to specify Sears. |
| 03:09 |
|
thd |
kados: 2 has not been set for display in the biblio framework for your example. |
| 03:10 |
|
kados |
hmmm, I see ... but if I set it to be in the 'seealso' it should work right? |
| 03:10 |
|
kados |
(strange that it comes out as 'sears -- somesubject' |
| 03:12 |
|
thd |
kados: Paul's correction of the subject heading display in opac-detail.pl for 2.2.4 ignores the biblio framework, evidently. |
| 03:13 |
|
thd |
kados: There is a hidden/visible checkbox for subfields in the appropriate part of the biblio framework editor. |
| 03:15 |
|
thd |
kados: Do you mean by strange that you were expecting $2 only once for the whole field. |
| 03:15 |
|
thd |
kados: That should be the usual usage even in the case of subject subdivisions. |
| 03:17 |
|
thd |
kados: However, the practise in your case, may allow for combing headings from multiple thesauri in subject subdivisions. |
| 03:18 |
|
thd |
kados: see also is only for combing indexes during search. |
| 03:19 |
|
thd |
s/combing/combining/ |
| 03:20 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 03:21 |
|
thd |
kados: It is neither expected or desirable to have the thesaurus displayed in the standard non-MARC OPAC display in the manner it does for your example records. |
| 03:22 |
|
kados |
right |
| 03:24 |
|
thd |
kados: you need to make a correction for Paul's code to fix the subject subdivision problem for 2.2.4 to allow for the non-display of $2. |
| 03:26 |
|
thd |
kados: I had looked briefly for where that code was located when 2.2.4 first came out. |
| 03:26 |
|
kados |
I'll take a look in the morning |
| 03:26 |
|
kados |
I"m sleepy now :-) |
| 03:26 |
|
thd |
kados: I do not remember finding it. |
| 03:28 |
|
thd |
kados: It would be better if opac-detail.pl used similar code instead of the Koha SQL tables for some of the other elements in the display, such as publisher. |
| 03:29 |
|
thd |
kados: multiple publishers for different markets found in the same record do not display correctly for opac-detail.pl. |
| 03:30 |
|
thd |
kados: good night |
| 03:51 |
|
quubba |
thd: With every page, but some seems to take even longer times to process, eg. addbiblio.pl. |
| 03:53 |
|
thd |
quubba: What version of Koha do you have? |
| 03:55 |
|
quubba |
thd: 2.2.4. |
| 03:55 |
|
thd |
quubba: What version of Apache also or are you using another web server? |
| 03:56 |
|
quubba |
thd: yup, 2.1 |
| 03:58 |
|
thd |
quubba: Not that it should be an issue really, but what is the RAM and processor speed of the machine where Koha and the webserver are running? |
| 03:59 |
|
quubba |
It looks strange because when a page is loaded, the cpu usage of the perl script goes up but in most cases drops normally down again after a couple of seconds. But the process still goes on running. |
| 03:59 |
|
thd |
quubba: What web browser are you using for a client and is that the same machine? |
| 04:00 |
|
quubba |
thd: PII with 512 of megabytes RAM. |
| 04:01 |
|
thd |
quubba: should be more than enough. |
| 04:02 |
|
quubba |
thd: I've tried both Firefox and IE on a different machine. (on the same machine I'm able to try only with links... :) |
| 04:02 |
|
thd |
quubba: Do you have some proxy server installed? |
| 04:04 |
|
thd |
quubba: Do other Perl scripts for generating web pages run quickly? |
| 04:04 |
|
quubba |
No, and the machines are on the same LAN. |
| 04:07 |
|
quubba |
Others do run normally, althoug none of them are using for example DBD::Mysql or databases anyway. |
| 04:07 |
|
quubba |
But the PHP scripts using the same Mysql server run normally. |
| 04:08 |
|
thd |
quubba: What OS and version is the server running? |
| 04:08 |
|
quubba |
NetBSD 2.0. |
| 04:09 |
|
thd |
quubba: Very little is faster than NetBSD :) |
| 04:09 |
|
quubba |
Yesh. :) |
| 04:12 |
|
quubba |
But ok, maybe I'll try testing some other perl scripts using the same mysql server.. |
| 04:14 |
|
thd |
quubba: I have never tried running Koha on NetBSD. Maybe DBD::MySQL or the HTML::Template did not compile correctly. |
| 04:15 |
|
thd |
quubba: have you checked both the Apache and Koha error logs? |
| 04:19 |
|
quubba |
Yep, there's nothing which I could imageine could affect. A few failed select clauses in systempreferences.pl. |
| 04:20 |
|
thd |
quubba: Have you tried filling the needed values in system preferences? |
| 04:22 |
|
thd |
quubba: does your Koha install pass the System Administration : MARC check OK? Assuming you are using MARC Koha? |
| 04:23 |
|
quubba |
I think not. :) I mean, which are the needed values? |
| 04:26 |
|
thd |
quubba: One of the initial post installation steps requires defining at least one library branch for System Administration : Branches and at least one item type for System Administration : Item Types. |
| 04:26 |
|
quubba |
It says "You have 1 error(s) in your MARC configuration. Please fix them before using Koha" |
| 04:26 |
|
quubba |
Even though all tests say "OK". |
| 04:28 |
|
quubba |
The one defined in the installation ("MAIN" by default) should be enough (as branch)? |
| 04:28 |
|
thd |
quubba: What is the reported error from the list of checks run above the final message? |
| 04:29 |
|
thd |
quubba: Just MAIN is fine or whatever you would prefer instead is fine for branches. |
| 04:30 |
|
quubba |
There wasn't any, but that final error message dropped out after I added a item type. That is, now it says OK to all. |
| 04:31 |
|
thd |
quubba: how is response time now? |
| 04:32 |
|
quubba |
Still slow. |
| 04:34 |
|
thd |
quubba: Had you loaded or created any records? |
| 04:36 |
|
quubba |
I tried, but after submitting it never loaded to the end and the record wasn't added. |
| 04:38 |
|
quubba |
There was this problem when installing DBD::Mysql from CPAN that the mysql server already had root password and all the tests failed. So I force installed it. |
| 04:40 |
|
thd |
quubba: Running some test scripts using DBD::MySQL and/or HTML::Template would seem to be a good idea for testing. |
| 04:41 |
|
thd |
quubba: Are both the administration interface and the OPAC slow? |
| 04:43 |
|
quubba |
thd: OPAC isn't exactly slow, but there's this same problem with these forever-going http requests. |
| 04:44 |
|
quubba |
But, I'll try with some test scripts as soon as I have a bit more time. Will report if I come up with something. |
| 04:53 |
|
thd |
quubba: Seems like a bad loop where the should not be one. Try another Koha install from version 2.2.3 without whatever the bug fixes in the latest 2.2.4 may have been. 2.2.4 is much better but I am unsure how to obtain a working copy from the first week or 3 that it was released. There should be incremental numbering for bug fixes going into the current release which does not seem to happen. |
| 06:39 |
|
thd |
chris: What is the system date on the koha list server? |
| 06:40 |
|
thd |
chris: recent messages have been dated from 1970. |
| 06:43 |
|
thd |
chris: otherwise, I have noticed some very old messages being reposted to the koha list during the past couple of weeks. |
| 07:42 |
|
thd |
paul: What file controls how the directory structure for the installer is built? |
| 08:49 |
|
osmoze |
hello |
| 08:50 |
|
thd |
hello osmoze |
| 10:51 |
|
_hdl_ |
thd: hav a look at buildrelease in misc. |
