Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
10:14 |
|
timing |
Are the koha masters in the house |
10:14 |
|
timing |
needing to kno if any K-12 school districts are using koha |
10:15 |
|
paul |
hi timing. |
10:15 |
|
paul |
what is a K-12 school ? |
10:15 |
|
paul |
(/me french, sometimes don't understand US-isms) |
10:15 |
|
timing |
Kindergarten thru 12th grade |
10:16 |
|
paul |
(and 12th grade is what ?) |
10:16 |
|
timing |
Senior last grade before a student graduates High School |
10:17 |
|
timing |
Public school goes from Kindergarten 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 |
10:17 |
|
paul |
(how old ? I know that specifically in schools, terms does not have the same meaning. For example, in france, High School means "school for >18 years old students) |
10:17 |
|
timing |
then off to college |
10:17 |
|
paul |
(and the most famous ones) |
10:17 |
|
paul |
(while college is for childrens between 10 and 14 !) |
10:18 |
|
timing |
wow |
10:18 |
|
timing |
Ok 12th is 18 at the most |
10:18 |
|
timing |
Kindergarten is 5yrs |
10:18 |
|
timing |
old that is |
10:20 |
|
paul |
in France there are some schools for sutdents >18 that uses Koha. But none that I know for smaller ones. |
10:21 |
|
paul |
Koha is too complex to install for small schools (I mean without system admin and pro librarian) |
10:21 |
|
timing |
Well we use Follett on 11 schools right now |
10:22 |
|
timing |
and we do not have a unified database |
10:22 |
|
timing |
we are looking for a solution to put them all together |
10:23 |
|
timing |
but when a students searches the data or marc records he/she gets that school first |
10:23 |
|
timing |
then gets a choice to search on other campus's if not at their campus |
10:23 |
|
kados |
morning folks |
10:23 |
|
timing |
morning |
10:24 |
|
kados |
timing: there's a K-12 in Seattle using Koha IIRC |
10:24 |
|
kados |
timing: let me find a link |
10:24 |
|
timing |
alrighty then |
10:28 |
|
kados |
shoot ... the Koha world map still hasn't come back online |
10:29 |
|
paul |
('morning joshua) |
10:29 |
|
paul |
(do you have some news from the "super MARC editor" project ?) |
10:30 |
|
kados |
paul: nothing just yet |
10:30 |
|
paul |
means "nothing has been done" or "nothing to announce" ? |
10:30 |
|
kados |
nothing to announce yet ;-) |
10:30 |
|
kados |
we're hoping to have a demo running within a couple weeks |
10:31 |
|
kados |
timing: Coast Mountains School District |
10:31 |
|
kados |
timing: it's in BC |
10:32 |
|
timing |
OK not link |
10:33 |
|
timing |
I can look it up |
10:33 |
|
timing |
I think what you guys called what I need a consortium |
10:33 |
|
kados |
yep |
10:33 |
|
timing |
and you would be willing to work on it for a cost maybe |
10:33 |
|
kados |
absolutely! ;-) |
10:33 |
|
timing |
I might have you a job if the price is right |
10:34 |
|
kados |
timing: http://old.koha.org/about/map/northamerica.html# |
10:34 |
|
kados |
timing: that's the Koha world map (finally found it ;-)) |
10:34 |
|
kados |
timing: there are a few K-12 schools listed there |
10:35 |
|
timing |
alrighty then |
10:36 |
|
kados |
timing: note that Steve Tonnesen has dropped off the map |
10:40 |
|
timing |
So back to the pricing for consortium for 11-15 libraries |
10:40 |
|
kados |
ok |
10:40 |
|
kados |
well the first step is to define exactly what we need |
10:41 |
|
kados |
so how many libraries are we talking about? |
10:42 |
|
timing |
we have 11 right now but will be adding 2-3 in the next few years |
10:42 |
|
kados |
ok ... and these are all school libraries right? |
10:42 |
|
kados |
and the schools are separate? |
10:43 |
|
kados |
morning owen |
10:43 |
|
timing |
yes |
10:43 |
|
timing |
all schools and all seperate |
10:43 |
|
kados |
timing: ok ... so what will they want to share and what will they want to be locally defined? |
10:43 |
|
timing |
2 high school 2 middle schools 7 elementaries |
10:44 |
|
kados |
i.e., will they share patrons? |
10:44 |
|
kados |
(students)? |
10:44 |
|
kados |
share the catalog? |
10:44 |
|
timing |
no share of students just books |
10:45 |
|
kados |
share in cataloging ? |
10:45 |
|
kados |
how about reports, etc? |
10:45 |
|
timing |
well we have a messed up system right now and lots of questions from me to |
10:45 |
|
timing |
the librarians |
10:46 |
|
timing |
I will have to get some more details from them |
10:46 |
|
timing |
I understood us to want a single database |
10:46 |
|
timing |
with all schools in it |
10:47 |
|
kados |
right |
10:47 |
|
timing |
but when a student searches for a book at Kerr Middle School |
10:47 |
|
timing |
he sees kerr middle school first and then gets a option to search others schools |
10:48 |
|
timing |
but we don't want for a student to search and see all schools first |
10:49 |
|
kados |
edsu: right |
10:49 |
|
kados |
timing: right |
10:49 |
|
kados |
autocompletion woes ;-) |
10:50 |
|
kados |
timing: what about cataloging? |
10:52 |
|
timing |
ok what exactly are we talking about with cataloging like marc records |
10:52 |
|
timing |
we use follett with opac right now |
10:53 |
|
paul |
hello owen |
10:53 |
|
kados |
timing: yes MARC records |
10:54 |
|
kados |
timing: so do you have a cataloger in each library? |
10:55 |
|
timing |
yes we have all 11 libraries with separate catalogs |
10:56 |
|
kados |
ok ... so if you move to a single system those catalogs will likely become merged ... and the cataloging practices of each library will need to be normalized |
10:56 |
|
kados |
unless you want to keep them independent |
10:57 |
|
kados |
i.e., we need to decide exactly what things they will be sharing (like searching) and what things they will still do separately (like borrowing) |
10:58 |
|
kados |
timing: it's good that they are all on Follett now |
10:59 |
|
kados |
timing: as that means the migration will be smoother |
10:59 |
|
kados |
timing: and they are likely to have similar workflows |
10:59 |
|
kados |
timing: did you say you were meeting with the librarians soon? |