| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 14:58 |
|
kados |
paul: you around? |
| 14:59 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: how goes the cataloging project? |
| 15:12 |
|
jdtysko |
the project is progressing |
| 15:12 |
|
jdtysko |
one snag, though |
| 15:13 |
|
jdtysko |
i can't figure out how to update a server with the modified MARC record |
| 15:29 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: if you're still there |
| 15:29 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: the ability to update records isn't a feature of the Net::Z3950 module |
| 15:30 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: we're working on a new Perl-ZOOM module |
| 15:30 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: that will replace Net::Z3950 |
| 15:30 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: but I don't think that will ready for about a month or so |
| 15:30 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: maybe to months ;-) |
| 15:30 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: two even |
| 15:31 |
|
jdtysko |
so is there any way to update a z3950 server then? |
| 15:33 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: not in perl ;-) |
| 15:41 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: not in perl I think :-/ |
| 15:41 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: got a demo I can try out? |
| 15:41 |
|
jdtysko |
not really |
| 15:42 |
|
jdtysko |
just a simple perl script that pulls in a search, modifies it and converts back to binary form |
| 15:43 |
|
kados |
sweet |
| 15:43 |
|
kados |
sounds like a good start ;-) |
| 15:43 |
|
jdtysko |
ok, so should the project be able to add/modify records then? |
| 15:43 |
|
kados |
eventually yes ... |
| 15:43 |
|
kados |
I think for now we should focus on searching for records |
| 15:43 |
|
kados |
and allowing a cataloger to view the record and modify it |
| 15:44 |
|
jdtysko |
i did whip up a quick test interface |
| 15:44 |
|
kados |
and then save the resulting MARC file in one of the 'reservoirs' |
| 15:44 |
|
jdtysko |
so how permanent should the resivoirs be? |
| 15:44 |
|
jdtysko |
page-only, session-only, etc |
| 15:45 |
|
kados |
well I would make them 100% permenant |
| 15:45 |
|
kados |
if they are server-side in a db that's the easiest way to do it |
| 15:45 |
|
jdtysko |
ok, we can do that |
| 15:45 |
|
kados |
so picture a MySQL db with a table for the reservoirs |
| 15:45 |
|
jdtysko |
ya |
| 15:46 |
|
kados |
maybe a 'recordstring' 'reservoirtype' 'timestamp' 'recordid', etc. |
| 15:46 |
|
kados |
tables |
| 15:47 |
|
kados |
so you can specify maybe three reservoir types: 'unfinished', 'finished', 'working' |
| 15:47 |
|
kados |
and 'working' has a lock on it or something |
| 15:47 |
|
kados |
it's really a shame we don't have Perl-ZOOM done |
| 15:47 |
|
jdtysko |
and then some administrator takes the "finished" table and sends it back to the server? |
| 15:48 |
|
kados |
yea ... well he exports all the 'finished' records as a single ISO2709 (MARC) format file |
| 15:48 |
|
kados |
and then can import using the ILSes built-in tools |
| 15:48 |
|
kados |
too bad we can't just use Z39.50 for everything :-( |
| 15:48 |
|
jdtysko |
ok i see |
| 15:48 |
|
jdtysko |
yeah really |
| 15:50 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: if you're interested, I think there's PHP ZOOM code around somewhere |
| 15:50 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: which would allow that |
| 15:50 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: but it would have to be ported when Perl-ZOOM is released |
| 15:50 |
|
jdtysko |
ok thanks, i'll look into that |
| 15:50 |
|
kados |
jdtysko: so that's kinda yucky ;-) |
| 15:51 |
|
jdtysko |
yeah, php is a bit different |
| 16:08 |
|
jdtysko |
ok, well thanks for all of your help. i have to go to a meeting with my group now |
| 16:09 |
|
jdtysko |
i'll tell them what i learned, and we may stop by here later on |
| 16:37 |
|
russ |
kados are you around? |
| 16:43 |
|
kados |
russ: yep |
| 16:45 |
|
russ |
hi - sounds like we are about to do some similar work on serials? |
| 16:46 |
|
russ |
wondering if there might be an oppurtunity to pool resources? |
| 16:46 |
|
kados |
yea ... for sure |
| 16:46 |
|
russ |
we are at the speccing phase that the moment |
| 16:47 |
|
kados |
us too |
| 16:47 |
|
russ |
our new library consultant is compiling the requirements for our client |
| 16:47 |
|
russ |
do you have a deadline/timeframe for your doc? |
| 16:47 |
|
kados |
well ... this year ;-) |
| 16:47 |
|
russ |
sweet |
| 16:48 |
|
russ |
that is similar to us |
| 16:48 |
|
kados |
it'd be nice to included it in 3.0 |
| 16:48 |
|
kados |
include even |
| 16:48 |
|
russ |
oh yeah for sure |
| 16:49 |
|
kados |
so should we use a wiki for the spec doc? |
| 16:49 |
|
russ |
that could work |
| 16:49 |
|
kados |
wiki.liblime.com is available |
| 16:49 |
|
kados |
if you like dokuwiki ;-) |
| 16:50 |
|
russ |
we don't use wikis all that much |
| 16:50 |
|
kados |
so it's pretty easy to use ... it's just an editable website |
| 16:51 |
|
kados |
so to add a new page you click on 'Edit this page' |
| 16:51 |
|
kados |
then you use the wiki syntax to create a new item (using CamelCase) |
| 16:51 |
|
kados |
then you click on the new item and edit that page to put in the content |
| 16:51 |
|
russ |
right - we are preparing a word doc for starters (clients request |
| 16:51 |
|
kados |
k ... |
| 16:52 |
|
russ |
but assuming we can copy and paste |
| 16:52 |
|
kados |
but I bet if you could show the client how easy dokuwiki is to use they would prefer it ;-) |
| 16:52 |
|
russ |
maybe |
| 16:52 |
|
kados |
cause they can put comments directly in the document |
| 16:52 |
|
kados |
it's the ultimate collaboration tool ;-) |
| 16:53 |
|
russ |
the main thing will be trying to come up with a way |
| 16:53 |
|
russ |
to manage different requirements |
| 16:53 |
|
kados |
right |
| 16:54 |
|
russ |
we are just about to go off and have our staff meeting |
| 16:54 |
|
russ |
so i will catch up with amanda (our library person then) |
| 16:54 |
|
kados |
sweet |
| 18:33 |
|
russ |
kados you still there? |
| 18:53 |
|
kados |
russ: yep |
| 18:54 |
|
russ |
hi - amanda says that she should be finished her first draft of the spec today |
| 18:55 |
|
kados |
cool ... any chance she could post it to the wiki? or send me a copy (I'd be happy to put it up on the wiki) |
| 18:55 |
|
kados |
might be nice to get the general KOha community's opinion too |
| 18:56 |
|
russ |
i'll meet with her this avo |
| 18:56 |
|
russ |
if it is ready we'll post it |
| 18:56 |
|
kados |
cool ... thanks |
| 20:37 |
|
rach |
I think going out wider would be good |
| 20:38 |
|
rach |
although design by committee can be bad, but I think this lot are used to that by now :-) |
| 07:56 |
|
kados |
hi everyone |
| 07:56 |
|
kados |
paul: you around? |
| 07:57 |
|
paul |
yes. |
| 07:57 |
|
paul |
hello joshua |
| 07:57 |
|
kados |
paul: I was wondering what the status was on 2.2.4 ... released today? |
| 07:57 |
|
kados |
paul: (just curious ... no pressure ;-)) |
| 07:57 |
|
kados |
paul: ha! |
| 07:58 |
|
paul |
(& mail sent to koha-devel / koha / koha-announce) |
| 07:58 |
|
kados |
paul: serves me for not checking ;-) |
| 07:58 |
|
paul |
;-) |
| 07:58 |
|
kados |
congrats! |
| 07:58 |
|
paul |
your welcome. |
| 07:58 |
|
kados |
and thank you ;-) |
| 08:02 |
|
kados |
paul: I will be updating the LibLime demo later today |
| 08:02 |
|
kados |
paul: with 2.2.4 ;-) |
| 08:02 |
|
kados |
paul: but now I must get some coffee ;-) |
| 08:16 |
|
Sylvain |
hi |
| 08:17 |
|
paul |
coucou |
| 08:17 |
|
paul |
(mon mail d'annonce de la 2.2.4 est il arrivé sur la liste ? je ne l'ai pas reçu...) |
| 08:18 |
|
Sylvain |
vu |
| 08:19 |
|
paul |
bon, va savoir pourquoi moi je l'ai pas reçu... |
| 08:19 |
|
Sylvain |
euh en fait après réflexion vu mais pas sur koha-infos |
| 10:41 |
|
paul |
hi owen. |
| 10:41 |
|
owen |
Hi paul |
| 10:41 |
|
paul |
a quick question : could you sent me your php script that lists all pending reserves ? |
| 10:43 |
|
owen |
It is two parts, really: one part grabs the reserves and puts them in a separate table. The other part queries that table. |
| 10:43 |
|
owen |
The part that grabs the reserves is a script Stephen wrote. That's probably the more important part |
