| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 18:08 |
|
thd |
kados: are you present? |
| 18:33 |
|
thd |
chris: have you seen any posts to koha-devel after your reply to Sylvain and Joshua where you recommend creating additional biblioitems "Re: [Koha-devel] Itemtype and MARC21 Quandry" Date: 01/10/2005 08:57:37 +1200 ? I posted after afterwords and I believe Joshua did as well but I see no more messages on the list. |
| 18:40 |
|
thd |
chris: my test message to koha-devel has also vanished. There is no administration activity announcement about mail delays that I can see. |
| 18:40 |
|
chris |
hmm nope |
| 18:41 |
|
chris |
ive seen messages but i think thts because i as cc'd |
| 18:41 |
|
chris |
i was even |
| 18:41 |
|
chris |
theres nothing waiting in the admin queue for approval |
| 18:43 |
|
chris |
joshua replied to me, and i replied to that |
| 18:44 |
|
chris |
but i dont think either of them have come through yet, they didnt get bounced though |
| 18:45 |
|
thd |
chris: I wrote a lengthy reply to the itemtype thread and recently a test message. |
| 18:45 |
|
chris |
id wait a bit |
| 18:46 |
|
chris |
might be a big queue of mail at sourceforge |
| 18:46 |
|
thd |
chris: Was not Joshua's message to you from 8 hours ago? |
| 18:47 |
|
chris |
dunno i was asleep |
| 18:48 |
|
chris |
if it hasnt bounced, and it hasnt made it to mailman, my guess is its queued somewhere |
| 18:48 |
|
thd |
chris: I believe that it was because I spoke to him on telephone after he said that he sent it. |
| 18:50 |
|
thd |
chris: Are queues for 8 hours or more unusual on Sourceforge lists? |
| 18:50 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 18:51 |
|
chris |
but it moves an insane amount of mail |
| 18:51 |
|
chris |
so its not inconceivable, specially with all the crap tricks spammers use |
| 18:53 |
|
thd |
chris: perhaps there is some admin work being done but they should post an announcement of that :) |
| 18:55 |
|
thd |
chris: well I guess you will see my message eventually and I will see Joshua's reply to yours. |
| 18:55 |
|
chris |
and my reply to that |
| 18:56 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 18:57 |
|
chris |
there has no archive been made for october yet |
| 18:57 |
|
chris |
i suspect they are having 'issues' |
| 19:00 |
|
thd |
chris: If more biblioitems were created to accommodate different circulation rules for different items, Wouldn't there be additional unwanted records appearing in the OPAC? |
| 19:00 |
|
chris |
no |
| 19:01 |
|
chris |
biblioitems != biblio |
| 19:01 |
|
thd |
chris: only different biblios appear as different records? |
| 19:02 |
|
chris |
exactly |
| 19:03 |
|
chris |
http://opac.library.org.nz/cgi[…]tail.pl?bib=26679 |
| 19:03 |
|
chris |
1 biblio, 3 biblioitms, 6 items |
| 19:05 |
|
thd |
chris: where do I see the ISBN for the talking book? |
| 19:06 |
|
chris |
you dont in those templates |
| 19:07 |
|
chris |
its up to the library to decide what info they want to display |
| 19:07 |
|
thd |
chris: nor the publication date? |
| 19:07 |
|
chris |
http://opac.hlt.katipo.co.nz/c[…]tail.pl?bib=26679 |
| 19:08 |
|
chris |
you can display whatever you want |
| 19:08 |
|
chris |
if a library wants the publication date, its literally a 5 min change |
| 19:10 |
|
chris |
everythng is passed through to the template |
| 19:11 |
|
thd |
chris: In your last example, is Bloomsbury the publisher of the videos as well as the books? |
| 19:12 |
|
chris |
hmmm thats an error |
| 19:12 |
|
chris |
its displaying the publisher as if it was part of the biblio |
| 19:12 |
|
chris |
but its not, its part of the biblioitem |
| 19:13 |
|
thd |
chris: Should that be in the section below with the holdings? |
| 19:13 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:14 |
|
chris |
as the talking book is sometimes a different publisher too |
| 19:15 |
|
chris |
broken templates ..... the bane of my life :) |
| 19:16 |
|
thd |
chris: What would happen to the readability of the display if there were was very significant information for each biblioitem, such as the complete table of contents, reviews, etc.? |
| 19:17 |
|
chris |
id make them links |
| 19:18 |
|
chris |
thats what i did with my proof of concept for reviews |
| 19:19 |
|
chris |
illl find the screen shots, (its behind auth) |
| 19:20 |
|
chris |
http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]eviews/6.JPG.html |
| 19:21 |
|
chris |
its just a big website (all of koha) just have links to more pages if you need them :) |
| 19:26 |
|
thd |
chris: Do you have more examples of Koha being well integrated with the rest of a website so that you hardly know that it is Koha? |
| 19:26 |
|
chris |
hmm lemme look |
| 19:27 |
|
chris |
sorta is |
| 19:27 |
|
chris |
http://library.lgnz.co.nz/cgi-[…]ha/opac-search.pl |
| 19:28 |
|
chris |
http://opac.lianza.org.nz/cgi-[…]ha/opac-search.pl |
| 19:30 |
|
chris |
http://www.philanthropy.org.au[…]ch/catalogue.html |
| 19:32 |
|
thd |
chris: The first one was closest to what I had in mind, The beautiful graphics serve to hide Koha and several links to areas outside the OPAC are always visible. |
| 19:32 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:32 |
|
chris |
even opac.library.org.nz |
| 19:34 |
|
chris |
thats the kind of work we at katipo have been doing lately, integrating koha |
| 19:34 |
|
thd |
chris: Lianza does the same thing it is just not as pretty. |
| 19:34 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:35 |
|
chris |
something kinda cool with lgnz is this |
| 19:35 |
|
thd |
The Koha default template should be as beautiful as the one for LGNZ |
| 19:35 |
|
chris |
http://lgnz.co.nz/ |
| 19:36 |
|
chris |
the library latest column is fetched straight from koha |
| 19:37 |
|
chris |
yeah, id love for koha 3.0 to come out with pretty default template |
| 19:37 |
|
chris |
s |
| 19:37 |
|
chris |
hopefully we at katipo will be able to help out with that |
| 19:38 |
|
chris |
ideally it will go into a feature freeze early enough, so that the designers can pretty it up |
| 19:38 |
|
chris |
the problem with trying to do nice templates on a work in process, is the templates keep getting broken :) |
| 19:39 |
|
chris |
lgnz is done with koha + kea |
| 19:40 |
|
chris |
kea to handle the uploading pdfs, triggering them to the live site etc, and koha to catalogue them |
| 19:40 |
|
thd |
chris: Do you have other sites with both Koha and Kea? |
| 19:41 |
|
chris |
lianza |
| 19:41 |
|
chris |
of course our staff koha, where we store all the rfp's, quotes, estimates |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
it wouldnt need to be kea either, you can make it work with any of the opensource cms systems |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
but we use kea, cos we know it best |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
oh, hlt use kea to manage their website, but its not so integrated with koha in that instance, they just manage all the templates and static pages with it |
| 19:44 |
|
thd |
chris: The biggest problem with 3.0 development seems to be the absence of immediate funding for rewriting Net::Z3950 so the Zebra integration can begin. |
| 19:45 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:45 |
|
chris |
i suspect a serious amount can be done before that as well, my problem is time |
| 19:46 |
|
chris |
im now married, got two dogs, etc ... my time outside of work isnt so free anymore |
| 19:47 |
|
chris |
plus as i get older, im working more regular hours |
| 19:47 |
|
chris |
and not so inclined to do more work after work :) |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
otoh, we seem to be getting some more koha based work, so i will have a chance to work on koha more again which is good, ive been pretty quiet the last year |
| 20:02 |
|
chris |
ok, im heading how |
| 20:02 |
|
chris |
home even |
| 20:03 |
|
thd |
good evening chris |
