IRC log for #koha, 2005-09-30

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Time S Nick Message
13:52 owen This place sure is quiet lately
05:21 thd hdl: have you returned?
07:26 hdl yes thd.
07:53 thd hdl: What is the difference between the Koha UNIMARC electronic resources framework and the default framework?  Except for the name, I do not notice a difference.
07:56 hdl Do there may be no difference at all. These are ancient frameworks.
07:57 thd hdl: do you have less ancient frameworks? :)
08:00 thd hdl: Are your libraries usually using different frameworks that are not in CVS?
08:00 hdl osmoze sent me one designed for CDs. I have one For local library. But we always craft them one by one.
08:02 thd hdl: only default, electronic resources, and serials are in CVS.
08:02 thd hdl: complete with the major non-repeatable fields defined as repeatable :)
08:04 hdl yes... Nobody asked for them... And it needs two or ther operation to generate them... :)
08:05 hdl Somteimes, we have hard time to get things work.
08:05 thd hdl: The Koha demonstration seems to reset itself to English instead of French.  Is that a feature or a bug?
08:06 hdl It is a feature.
08:06 thd hdl: Why?
08:07 thd hdl: Is not a French site?
08:07 hdl Yes.
08:08 hdl But demonstration is quite international.
08:08 hdl And since features are first designed in English, som translations should be made.
08:09 hdl such as user-flags, and so on..
08:11 thd hdl: Yes, except that the UNIMARC Koha frameworks are only in French.  There has not been enough non-French interest in UNIMARC Koha for anyone to have translated the UNIMARC frameworks.
08:12 hdl I'll ask paul what he wants to do about that when he returns.
08:14 thd hdl: I have been including links to particular pages in for the analytical feature list that I am finishing.  I have assigned French titles to the links but they do not stay French :)
08:16 thd hdl: You should have for an international demonstration that defaults to English.
08:19 thd hdl: What is the browse path to serials subscription management from the intranet home in with the French default templates?
08:20 thd hdl: I mean what browse path do I use to create a new subscription with the default templates?
08:22 hdl catalogue>périodiques>Enregistrer périodique
08:29 thd hdl: I see the option now.  That second line of options is one that I have usually ignored :)
08:30 hdl you shouldn't have.
08:30 hdl :)
08:31 thd hdl: I had mostly used the npl templates when learning to use Koha where that menu line does not exist.
08:36 thd hdl: The npl templates try to put child links within the main body of the page.  The navigation bar method in the default templates is better expect that the size seems fixed and could only hold a few child or sibling links.
08:38 hdl I never used npl :S
08:39 thd hdl: Do you and paul have any plans to fully support recommendation 995?
08:40 hdl It is mainly done, unless peculiar requirements that our clients do not have.
08:41 thd hdl: It is only a special adaptation for Koha holdings.
08:45 thd hdl: Some extra subfields for Koha holdings are added, some coded fields are non-standard to support the coded values that Koha expects, many subfields are ignored.  There seem to be no plugins to support standard usage or some filter to export records with standard usage.
08:48 thd hdl: My question involves whether you have plans to support Recommendation 995 to exchange record information for interlibrary loan purposes?
08:59 thd hdl_away: when will you return?
09:00 hdl Back :)
09:02 thd hdl: did you see my questions about whether you plan to support subfield usage that is compliant with Recommendation 995 for record export to interlibrary loan systems?
09:08 thd hdl: Is my question clear?
09:09 hdl afaik, it is neither asked by customers nor planned.
09:10 thd hdl: you need more customers with more needs :)
09:11 hdl No only some but with strong requirements and big wallets :)
09:12 thd hdl: That is what I should have said :0
09:12 hdl Anyway, adding an auhtorised calue list is not that complicated.
09:12 hdl What is more troublesome is coded areas such as homebranch, holdingbranch.
09:13 thd hdl: Certainly, except that there is a little problem with at least one very important subfield.
09:13 hdl which name is... ?
09:14 hdl $b and $d ?
09:14 thd hdl: items.notforloan has numeric values unrelated to the coded values for recommendation 995.
09:15 hdl yes $o
09:16 thd hdl: exactly, I have not memorised the Recommendation 995 subfields yet :)
09:17 thd hdl: There may be other required subfields with problems but that one is very obvious.
09:17 hdl When it will be the time, there will be a solution.
09:19 thd hdl: The values for the 95 $o would need to be translated to the coded values for record export upon an external request to support an interlibrary loan application using Recommendation 995.
09:20 thd hdl: I did not ay that well but you know what I meant :)
09:20 thd s/ay/say/
10:21 thd welcome back kados
10:28 thd kados: It seems very primitive, although, it may be standards compliant underneath.
11:27 hdl thd : Your language selection problem with is over.
11:35 hdl kados: hi
11:35 kados hi hdl
11:35 hdl How is the argentinian code ?
11:35 kados hdl: I still am missing a module ... I must bug them further
11:36 kados so much to do ;-)
11:36 hdl Yes.
11:36 kados I need three of me ;-)
11:36 hdl Thats's 72H a day.
11:37 hdl Paul is still in ouaga.
11:37 kados right ;-)
11:37 hdl Taking good time and good contacts.
11:37 kados how's that going ... any news to report
11:37 kados great!
11:37 hdl contacts in Tunisia, Madagascar and Senegal.
11:38 hdl He plans Koha's Future over several decades ;)...
11:39 kados hehe

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