| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:14 |
|
thd |
paul: what tool do you prefer to CVS? |
| 12:27 |
|
thd |
owen: paul informs me that the warning note about items not being exported in MARC Export is there for a subtle error in the export of items. He does not remember the nature of the error. |
| 12:34 |
|
thd |
owen: he suggested I file a bug report. I am uncertain about filing a bug report for a bug that is not identified and well defined. However, I guess I will do so later because exporting items in a MARC record seems important. Koha should have import and export symmetry, a basic requirement of any program to which you trust your data :) |
| 13:08 |
|
owen |
Is a branch supposed to be able to have more than one category? |
| 13:49 |
|
thd |
owen: what do you mean by category in that context? |
| 13:58 |
|
owen |
In system preferences, branches.pl |
| 16:40 |
|
owen |
kados, have you encountered the problem with new installs that selectbranchprinter.pl has the wrong permissions? |
| 01:34 |
|
osmoze |
bonjour |
| 02:23 |
|
hdl |
hi |
| 02:23 |
|
paul |
hi too |
| 04:02 |
|
Sylvain |
hi |
| 04:02 |
|
paul |
coucou |
| 04:03 |
|
paul |
ce matin : synchro entre head et 2.2 en plus des commits que j'ai fait il y a quelques minutes. |
| 04:03 |
|
paul |
inondation de mail sur koha-cvs à prévoir d'ici peu ;-) |
| 04:03 |
|
Sylvain |
ah, je suis en train de regarder ce qui vient d'arriver les histoires de letter.tmpl |
| 04:04 |
|
Sylvain |
sympa comme fonctionnalité |
| 04:48 |
|
paul |
sylvain/osmoze/hdl, j'ai fait quelques modifs sur la feuille de style de l'OPAC |
| 04:49 |
|
paul |
dites moi ce que vous en pensez : |
| 04:49 |
|
paul |
http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:[…]ha/opac-search.pl |
| 04:49 |
|
paul |
(catalogue EMN, donc "chaos" ou autres mot-clefs scientifiques renvoient des résultats) |
| 04:49 |
|
osmoze |
ok je regarde en debut d aprem :) |
| 04:50 |
|
paul |
bon, allez, maintenant, je bosse sur la synchro 2.2 et head... |
| 04:50 |
|
hdl |
les ... sont un peu trop "carrés" |
| 04:50 |
|
hdl |
et on a perdu l'information de la position du curseur dans la page, qui était bien pratique. |
| 04:50 |
|
osmoze |
pense à manger quand meme :) |
| 04:51 |
|
paul |
position du curseur dans la page ??? |
| 04:51 |
|
paul |
tu parles de quoi ? |
| 04:52 |
|
hdl |
Je parle des jolis couleurs orage pétard pour indiquer où on va taper du texte ;)))) |
| 04:52 |
|
hdl |
amha, les carrés autour des titres (résultat de recherche) sont de trop. |
| 04:53 |
|
hdl |
de même autour des sujets. |
| 04:54 |
|
hdl |
juste une parenthèse, le quantique des quantiques de Illya Prygogine est assez bon à lire. |
| 04:56 |
|
hdl |
Si on arrivait à trouver un bleu plus pastel ou plus profond qui soit agréable à l'oeil, ce serait vraiment TOP. |
| 05:02 |
|
hdl |
Les titres mériteraient d'être "plus large" |
| 05:02 |
|
hdl |
(mais j'ai maintenant la même config que toi.... Donc pas top pour les tests)... |
| 05:02 |
|
hdl |
Cela dit, si on pouvait fair une taille relative à l'écran et pas absolue pour les titres ce serait bien. |
| 05:04 |
|
hdl |
Les rectangles se chevauchent dans ma config. |
| 05:04 |
|
hdl |
http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:[…]es.pl?viewshelf=8 |
| 07:10 |
|
paul |
hdl, quand tu parles de bleu plus pastel ou + profond tu parles du quel ? |
| 07:10 |
|
paul |
le foncé (body) ou le clair (mainbloc) |
| 07:13 |
|
hdl |
body |
| 07:13 |
|
hdl |
paul : |
| 07:15 |
|
paul |
tu as une suggestion à faire ? |
| 07:17 |
|
hdl |
essaie : 09549b |
| 07:19 |
|
paul |
fait, sauf que maintenant, le bleu clair ne va plus du tout. |
| 07:19 |
|
paul |
et puis ca change vraiment trop je trouve. |
| 07:19 |
|
paul |
je préfèrerai une couleur qui reste proche de l'ancienne. |
| 07:24 |
|
hdl |
et ça #1A6B89 |
| 07:25 |
|
paul |
fait, mais ca ne s'accorde pas avec le bleu clair ni avec l'orange je trouve. |
| 07:26 |
|
paul |
tiens, un chti lien : |
| 07:26 |
|
paul |
http://wellstyled.com/tools/co[…]me2/index-en.html# |
| 07:31 |
|
paul |
là, c'est + profond, et du coup + contrasté. |
| 07:31 |
|
paul |
ca me plait pas mal. |
| 07:33 |
|
hdl |
ouaip. moi aussi. |
| 07:34 |
|
hdl |
Tu as enlevé les rectangles pas beau. Et ca, ca ROX ! |
| 07:34 |
|
paul |
tiens, regarde l'orange foncé est plus clair |
| 07:34 |
|
paul |
ca me parait franchement mieux ainsi. |
| 07:35 |
|
paul |
(en fait, l'astuce, c'est de mettre gris au lieu de noir pour le border) |
| 07:35 |
|
hdl |
Petite suggestion : Les rectangles de focus en deux fois plus gros... Il ne ressortent pas assez par rapport aux combos de liste. |
| 07:36 |
|
hdl |
Pas mal mais j'aimais bien avant... Plus de contraste... |
| 07:36 |
|
paul |
voilà, rectangles de liste en gris comme le reste. |
| 07:38 |
|
hdl |
tiens, regarde l'orange foncé est plus clair. C'était mieux que le "marron". |
| 07:38 |
|
paul |
je sais des essais ;-) |
| 07:39 |
|
hdl |
Moi, c'est juste MON avis. Mais j'approuve les essais. |
| 07:41 |
|
hdl |
Les combos restent en relief, c'est voulu ? |
| 07:41 |
|
hdl |
On pourrait peut-être les applatir. |
| 07:41 |
|
hdl |
vu que tous nos boutons sont plats. |
| 07:43 |
|
hdl |
les titres pourraientêtre couleur fond. |
| 07:44 |
|
paul |
ca ne peut pas se faire avec une feuille de style seule |
| 07:44 |
|
paul |
il faudrait changer du code. |
| 07:49 |
|
hdl |
http://www.htmlhelp.com/refere[…]s/box/border.html |
| 07:50 |
|
hdl |
<paul> ca ne peut pas se faire avec une feuille de style seule <- C'était pour les listes ? |
| 07:50 |
|
paul |
ca je connais, mais ca ne concerne que la bordure ! |
| 07:50 |
|
paul |
c'était pour le titre en couleur fond |
| 07:51 |
|
hdl |
C'était juste pour changer la couleur de la police des titres de façon à rappeler celle du fond. |
| 07:52 |
|
hdl |
Je comprends pouquoi NON. ;) |
| 07:52 |
|
hdl |
C'est la page de garde. |
| 07:54 |
|
paul |
en fait, je crois qu'on ne peut pas changer la forme des boutons radio / case à cocher et <select> |
| 07:55 |
|
paul |
ces widgets sont du ressort du moteur |
| 07:58 |
|
hdl |
OK. Dommage certains systèmes intègrent trois ou quatre styles de "boutons" différents. Nos navigateurs sont plus limités. |
| 08:56 |
|
osmoze |
paul, personnelement, j aimai bien le degradé :) |
| 08:56 |
|
paul |
orange -> bleu tu veux dire. |
| 08:56 |
|
osmoze |
oui |
| 08:56 |
|
paul |
le pb c'est que selon le réglage de l'écran, c'était franchement moche |
| 08:56 |
|
osmoze |
ca alleger |
| 08:56 |
|
osmoze |
ah, j ai essayé qu avec le mieux |
| 08:56 |
|
osmoze |
mien |
| 08:57 |
|
osmoze |
par contre, le titre fait plus net sans le relief |
| 08:57 |
|
osmoze |
pour mon avis :) |
| 08:57 |
|
paul |
un manque dans le css, c'est de pouvoir érirer une image sur la largeur de la boite dans laquelle elle est positionnée. |
| 08:57 |
|
osmoze |
et les onglets ronds etaient plus fun :) |
| 08:58 |
|
paul |
là, c'est TRES controversé ! |
| 08:58 |
|
paul |
moi j'aimais bien, mais d'autres trouvaient que ca faisait pas très pro. |
| 08:59 |
|
osmoze |
rohh ^^ |
| 08:59 |
|
paul |
bref, les coups et les douleurs, toussa... |
| 08:59 |
|
osmoze |
austere = pro ? |
| 08:59 |
|
osmoze |
huhu |
| 08:59 |
|
osmoze |
de plus, il y a pas un moyen d avoir les deux cadres au meme niveau, ca, ca fait assez negligé :) |
| 09:01 |
|
osmoze |
mais c est bien plus appreciable a cote que l un au dessus de l autre |
| 09:01 |
|
osmoze |
(je pense surtout au 800x600 |
| 09:01 |
|
osmoze |
) |
| 09:01 |
|
osmoze |
de ? |
| 09:01 |
|
osmoze |
pour les cadres ? |
| 09:02 |
|
osmoze |
j ai un decalage en bas de 0.5 cm environ |
| 09:04 |
|
osmoze |
de p lus, j aime l espace entre les onglets et les cadres |
| 09:04 |
|
osmoze |
voila pour mes avis ^^ |
| 09:28 |
|
osmoze |
bye all |
| 09:33 |
|
kados |
morning owen |
| 09:33 |
|
owen |
Hi kados |
| 09:34 |
|
paul |
hi again owen & hi kados. |
| 09:34 |
|
paul |
what do you think of the revised stylesheet for css opac : |
| 09:34 |
|
paul |
Home || Catalogue || Members || Acquisitions || Circulation || Reports || Parameters || About || Help |
| 09:34 |
|
paul |
Home || Catalogue || Members || Acquisitions || Circulation || Reports || Parameters || About || Help |
| 09:34 |
|
paul |
http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:[…]ha/opac-search.pl |
| 09:35 |
|
owen |
It's looking good, Paul |
| 09:35 |
|
kados |
paul: ditto |
| 09:36 |
|
paul |
(ditto = same isn't it. But where does it comes from ? is it a shortcut for something else ?) |
| 09:36 |
|
kados |
I'm not sure |
| 09:37 |
|
kados |
paul, owen I have an idea to bounce off you |
| 09:38 |
|
paul |
bounce, bounce ;-) |
| 09:38 |
|
kados |
I've been looking at Keystone Digital Library Suite |
| 09:38 |
|
kados |
indexdata.dk/keystone |
| 09:38 |
|
kados |
Keystone is a family of Open Source digital content management, portal management and information discovery software packaged together |
| 09:39 |
|
kados |
it's basically a CMS with Zebra at the back end |
| 09:39 |
|
kados |
and YAZ |
| 09:40 |
|
kados |
I'm wondering if it would be interesting to move from template management with HTML::Template |
| 09:40 |
|
kados |
to using an XML/XSTL based approach with Keystone |
| 09:40 |
|
kados |
the idea is that you have all your data coming out of Koha as XML |
| 09:41 |
|
kados |
so it's stripped of any presentation information -- just content |
| 09:41 |
|
paul |
maybe a good idea, but 2.2 => 3.0 is already a major goal. |
| 09:41 |
|
kados |
then you have an XSLT stylesheet that is used to say how to handle presentation |
| 09:42 |
|
paul |
so, maybe that's enough. |
| 09:42 |
|
kados |
and Keystone does the work of handling it |
| 09:42 |
|
kados |
paul: sure ... |
| 09:42 |
|
kados |
paul: but I'm thinking long-term |
| 09:42 |
|
paul |
on the long term we won't have MARC records anymore, just XML, so that will be an evident way, imho |
| 09:42 |
|
paul |
;-) |
| 09:42 |
|
kados |
paul: so maybe that's Koha 4.0 |
| 09:47 |
|
owen |
In a way I'd hate to tie us so closely with a CMS, because I feel like that brings a lot of baggage along with it |
| 09:48 |
|
owen |
But it might make the Koha package more appealing, if it meant librarians felt like they had more control and more options |
| 09:49 |
|
paul |
for this, i have the idea to open a "kohastyles.org" where we could store css for OPAC for 2.2.x (and later versions of course) |
| 09:49 |
|
paul |
but i don't have the time for this ;-) |
| 09:49 |
|
owen |
I agree, paul: it would be nice to have a resource for sharing stylesheets |
| 09:50 |
|
paul |
would be easy : a small CMS, upload a screenshot and the stylesheet. |
| 09:50 |
|
kados |
yep ... |
| 09:50 |
|
paul |
mmm... while saying it, i know how to do it... |
| 09:50 |
|
paul |
will be on koha-fr.org in a few minuts hopefully ! |
| 09:50 |
|
owen |
That was easy :) |
| 10:04 |
|
tim |
I just loaded biblio data on a faster server yesterday and found out the marc_word table is corrupted. Is there a way to fix that without reloading everything again? |
| 10:08 |
|
kados |
tim: yep |
| 10:08 |
|
kados |
tim: if you check in the misc directory |
| 10:09 |
|
kados |
tim: you'll find a 'build_marc_words' script |
| 10:09 |
|
kados |
tim: you may want to edit the file a bit to match your needs |
| 10:09 |
|
kados |
tim: (i.e., what MARC fields you'd like searched) |
| 10:10 |
|
tim |
Thanks kados. Do I need to empty the marc_words table first? |
| 10:11 |
|
kados |
tim: yea ... that's a good idea |
| 10:11 |
|
tim |
Thanks again. |
| 10:13 |
|
kados |
np |
| 10:40 |
|
paul |
DONE : look at www.koha-fr.org |
| 10:40 |
|
paul |
(link OPAC style) |
| 10:42 |
|
paul |
;-) |
| 10:42 |
|
hdl |
paul : howto POST stylesheets ? |
| 10:42 |
|
paul |
to koha-fr.org ? |
| 10:42 |
|
hdl |
For our frieds, could be nice ;) |
| 10:42 |
|
paul |
frieds ? |
| 10:42 |
|
hdl |
s/frieds/friends/ |
| 10:43 |
|
paul |
i just use SPIP feature to upload image or any other file |
| 10:43 |
|
paul |
.css is not handled, so I just renamed it .txt |
| 10:53 |
|
thd |
kados: Are you there, I was just disconnected? |
| 10:53 |
|
paul |
should not be too far... |
| 10:53 |
|
paul |
was here 40mn agos at least ;-) |
| 10:56 |
|
thd |
paul: what tool did you think was better than CVS? |
| 10:56 |
|
paul |
almost all ;-) |
| 10:57 |
|
thd |
paul: which one do you prefer. |
| 10:57 |
|
thd |
? |
| 10:57 |
|
paul |
I don't use daily another version manager. |
| 10:57 |
|
paul |
so I can't say. |
| 10:58 |
|
paul |
I tried arch, as MJ Ray suggested. Seemed interesting. |
| 10:58 |
|
paul |
I also known a (very) little subvestion |
| 10:58 |
|
thd |
paul: arch seemed the most interesting tool that I have read about but I do not have the best basis for comparison. |
| 11:00 |
|
thd |
paul: did you or MJ Ray consider anyplace with free hosting for GPL projects using arch? |
| 11:00 |
|
paul |
nope. |
| 11:01 |
|
paul |
the problem with arch is that we were afraid to loose most contributors. |
| 11:01 |
|
paul |
(as well as any other tool than CVS in fact) |
| 11:02 |
|
thd |
paul: contributors are more important than the tool. Unless the tool itself is fatally broken :) |
| 11:02 |
|
thd |
paul: Nevermind my query :) |
| 11:02 |
|
thd |
paul: Koha needs more contributors not fewer :) |
| 11:02 |
|
paul |
:-D |
| 11:03 |
|
thd |
kados: ping |
| 11:05 |
|
thd |
paul: so when is koha moving to savanah? |
| 11:05 |
|
paul |
ask kados ;-) |
| 11:06 |
|
thd |
pinging kados |
| 11:10 |
|
owen |
Nobody has decided to move to Savanah. The idea was floated. |
| 11:11 |
|
thd |
owen: I understand that. I had thought paul was intending to test Savanah. |
| 11:11 |
|
paul |
owen is right in fact. But I personnaly think it's not a too big step. |
| 11:11 |
|
paul |
in fact, as savannah is a clone of SF, we should loose no contributors |
| 11:12 |
|
paul |
the main questions are : |
| 11:12 |
|
paul |
* who do it ? |
| 11:12 |
|
paul |
* how to do it ? |
| 11:12 |
|
thd |
paul: It is based on a much earlier version of the code or had been. |
| 11:12 |
|
paul |
right, they forked when sf announced some non GPL modifs |
| 11:14 |
|
thd |
paul: You may be used to some diffeerences but maybe Savanah has had similar improvements. Otherwise the should be functionally equivalent. |
| 11:15 |
|
thd |
paul: I had thought that you were going to test Savanah with your copy of the development tree. |
| 11:20 |
|
kados |
thd: yere |
| 11:20 |
|
kados |
thd: here even |
| 11:20 |
|
thd |
kados: when is koha moving to Savanah? |
| 11:20 |
|
kados |
thd: not sure yet |
| 11:21 |
|
kados |
thd: we've got to discuss it |
| 11:21 |
|
thd |
kados: Of course :) |
| 11:21 |
|
thd |
kados: The possibility needs to be tested even for possible consideration :) |
| 11:36 |
|
paul |
ok, it's time to leave for me. |
| 11:36 |
|
paul |
read you tommorow |
| 11:36 |
|
kados |
paul: cya ... |
| 11:37 |
|
owen |
Bye paul |
