IRC log for #koha, 2005-07-10

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Time	Nick	Message
19:06	thd	kados: are you around?
03:08	osmoze	hello
09:55	thd	kados: ping
11:07	kados	thd: what's up?
11:10	owen	Hey kados.
11:10	kados	hey owen ...
11:10	kados	have you looked at the LibLime placement of user data?
11:10	kados	links, etc?
11:10	owen	?
11:11	kados	(in response to the Logging in to the OPAC thread on our intranet
11:12	owen	Looks like your template go switched
11:12	owen	go -> got
11:17	kados	yea
11:19	kados	owen: someone switched the default language
11:21	kados	owen: log in as '2'
11:21	kados	owen: to see someone with some actual activity
11:22	kados	owen: I've been thinking that it's somewhat redundunt to list 'overdues' and then 'issues'
11:22	kados	owen: maybe they should be combined and have overdue items listed first ... then other issues
11:23	thd	kados: what experience have you had with CUFTS?
11:23	kados	thd: well ... just a bit
11:23	kados	thd: it's basically a journal openurl resolver
11:23	kados	searches for journal titles
11:23	kados	and links to them
11:24	kados	liblime.com/opensearchportal.html
11:24	kados	it's one of the sources on my portal
11:24	thd	kados: exactly
11:24	owen	kados: I like those links there at the top
11:24	owen	I'm gonna steal that
11:24	kados	I've spoken to the researcher folks and they are interested in maybe doing some collaboration with Koha
11:25	kados	owen: sweet
11:25	owen	I also like the 'click here if you're not...' part on that page
11:25	kados	:-)
11:25	thd	kados: so you have not communicated with Todd Holbrook, who wrote CRUFTS?
11:25	owen	I too worry about the overdues/issues thing...
11:25	owen	Maybe the overdues list needs to be really compact, so that it's easy to scan
11:26	kados	thd: yea I've chatted with todd on IRC
11:26	owen	...get rid of covers and item type images, etc.
11:26	kados	owen: hmmm ... what if we just changed the background color for overdue items
11:26	owen	That's a good option too
11:26	kados	owen: the only complaint I have about the current system is that items are listed twice
11:27	kados	owen: if we had an 'overdues' heading ... then a 'other issues' heading
11:27	thd	kados: Is he working further on CUFTS at this point?
11:27	kados	and none of the items were listed twice that'd make more sense
11:27	kados	thd: not really sure ...
11:27	kados	thd: http://www.theresearcher.ca/pr[…]ponent_cufts.html
11:28	kados	thd: I think they still support CUFTS in several libraries
11:28	kados	thd: what's your interest in CUFTS?
11:28	thd	kados: At leat he released the code under GPL, I cannot find any code release for GODOT
11:30	thd	kados: I have acquired significant in OpenURL focus since the 1.0 draft was approved as NISO Z39.88-2004 in March.
11:31	thd	kados: In the past three weeks I have been neglecting my work on latent OpenURLs to do some work on Koha
11:32	kados	thd: have you looked at keystone?
11:33	kados	thd: indexdata.dk/keystone
11:33	thd	kados: there is a group working to allow OpenURLs as latent OpenURLs to be embedded in any web page with a changeable base for the resolver
11:34	thd	kados: I had only looked at Keystone and Zebra at the beginning of the year very briefly skimming through the features and documentation.
11:36	thd	kados: I liked the fact that Keystone supported SRW but not enough libraries do yet.
11:49	owen	kados: did you write the opac-readingrecord template from scratch? I don't see it anywhere in cvs
11:51	thd	kados: I see the OpenURL and resolver functionality in the specifications now. At the beginning of the year that would not have signified as much for me before I had become engaged by OpenURLs and the possibity of sharing them instead of hiding them in an indexing and abstracting service.
11:52	kados	owen: yea ...
11:52	thd	kados: the sharing aspect had been left out of the NISO standard so there is a scramble right now to solve that issue in a satisfactory way.
11:52	kados	owen: I based it on an older version of 1.2's script
11:52	kados	owen: I'll commit it later today
11:53	kados	thd: interesting ...
11:53	kados	thd: do you think it would be useful for Koha to include an openurl linking service?
11:54	owen	kados: if it's easier to just email me a copy of the template I can do it
11:57	thd	kados: koha should absolutely have the ability to at least add OpenURL services using Keystone or CUFTS, and to integrate with whatever commercial resolver a library may already have configured.
11:58	thd	kados: The administration of the resolver can be a major burden for the library to ensure the holdings are resovable.