| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:21 |
|
kados |
has anyone here seen the demo of PINES Evergreen circ? |
| 12:21 |
|
kados |
it's really nice |
| 12:21 |
|
kados |
http://open-ils.org/blog/?p=27#more-27 |
| 12:21 |
|
kados |
there's a firefox extension to install |
| 12:23 |
|
kados |
this is really impressive |
| 12:24 |
|
kados |
not everything is working yet but it's really cool |
| 12:41 |
|
kados |
so owen ... we still have two reserve errors right? |
| 12:41 |
|
kados |
http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=969 |
| 12:41 |
|
kados |
"Overriding waiting item results in cancelled reserve" |
| 12:41 |
|
kados |
and the second |
| 12:42 |
|
kados |
http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=844 |
| 12:42 |
|
kados |
"renewstatus subroutine should check for reserves" |
| 12:42 |
|
kados |
owen: any more reserve-renew-related bugs asside from those? |
| 12:44 |
|
kados |
owen: do you mind if I update 101? |
| 12:47 |
|
owen |
That sound right--just the two reserve errors |
| 12:49 |
|
kados |
and our solution for 844 was to just include the 'reserved' variable so you could 'block' the checkbox on the details screen right? |
| 12:53 |
|
kados |
it's this variable in moremember.tmpl: |
| 12:53 |
|
kados |
<!-- TMPL_IF name="norenew" --> |
| 12:53 |
|
kados |
right? |
| 12:53 |
|
owen |
Right--the renewstatus should check for both too many renewals and a reserve. |
| 12:53 |
|
owen |
It'd be nice if it returned two variables--one regarding renewals, and one regarding reserves. |
| 12:53 |
|
owen |
I'm not sure how it might work, though. |
| 13:34 |
|
owen |
Hi Ben |
| 13:34 |
|
Ben |
hi. |
| 13:34 |
|
Ben |
apologies for my early leave yesterday: it was 11pm and I had to go to bed |
| 13:36 |
|
owen |
I think it was a bad time for almost everyone! |
| 13:36 |
|
owen |
That's what compromise is all about :) |
| 13:36 |
|
Ben |
yes |
| 13:37 |
|
Ben |
still, I got in an hour of it |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
Note that I'm assuming that all libraries don't want items reserved for others |
| 14:30 |
|
indradg |
kados, just had a look at open-ils.org... these guys' are really thinking of kicking it up a notch.. jabber... XUL ... hmmm |
| 14:30 |
|
kados |
yep :-) ... did you see my post above? |
| 14:31 |
|
kados |
it's really a nice interface |
| 14:31 |
|
indradg |
well...it was ur post which took me there :) |
| 14:36 |
|
kados |
chris around? |
| 14:42 |
|
shaun |
hi everyone - is kados around? |
| 14:42 |
|
slef |
hi doctor nick! |
| 14:46 |
|
kados |
shaun: my list email? |
| 14:46 |
|
kados |
you mean a re-cap? |
| 14:46 |
|
kados |
that recap is probably rach's job |
| 14:46 |
|
shaun |
anything that you would say about being 2.4 RM, and the job allocations. |
| 14:47 |
|
kados |
right ... I'll probably do a general email |
| 14:47 |
|
shaun |
excellent |
| 14:47 |
|
kados |
then start threads for the individual roles and jobs to do |
| 14:47 |
|
kados |
etc. |
| 14:47 |
|
kados |
hopefully I'll get the general email out today (truth be told, I was kinda waiting for rach to do an official sounding email to the list announcing me, etc.) |
| 14:48 |
|
kados |
(for the folks that were'nt at the meeting) |
| 14:48 |
|
kados |
but I guess I don't need to wait for that |
| 14:49 |
|
shaun |
if you send that out, I will call a meeting on # on the topic of visual interface - I would call it the website meeting, but I feel that the templates need to be brought into it as well, to some extent |
| 14:50 |
|
kados |
how about I call the meeting ... and it'll be the 'interface design' meeting |
| 14:50 |
|
kados |
the website doesn't really fit into that scope does it? |
| 14:50 |
|
shaun |
an interface with customers |
| 14:50 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 14:50 |
|
shaun |
;-) |
| 14:51 |
|
shaun |
anything that the end-user sees, basically? |
| 14:51 |
|
kados |
so we're talking about redesigning the entire color scheme/ logos, etc of Koha |
| 14:51 |
|
kados |
all things Koha |
| 14:51 |
|
kados |
I'm all for that |
| 14:51 |
|
kados |
but |
| 14:51 |
|
shaun |
the logos are good- rach has done a good job with the latest one she sent out to me at least. |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
I still think the narrower topic of interface design as related to the actual Koha interfaces is a priority |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
yea the latest logos are nice |
| 14:52 |
|
shaun |
the visual identity needs to be brought back up to a slick level. |
| 14:52 |
|
shaun |
go on then - without a doubt, such a meeting will be just as popular as the town hall one... |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
in my experience, designing an overall presense is a tough thing to do wihen we've got so many folks with a vested interest |
| 14:53 |
|
kados |
ok ... I'll bring up both issues and we'll hash it out ;-) |
| 14:53 |
|
shaun |
yeh... mind if I chair? |
| 14:58 |
|
shaun |
brb |
| 15:00 |
|
kados |
shaun: I'd rather chair for now |
| 15:24 |
|
shaun |
back again - kados: OK |
| 15:36 |
|
kados |
sure |
| 15:37 |
|
kados |
shaun: sorry ... I've been squashing bugs today for NPL |
| 15:37 |
|
shaun |
np |
| 15:37 |
|
kados |
I'll probably not get to the message for a few hours |
| 15:38 |
|
kados |
plus I'd like to touch base with rach before I do send it |
| 15:38 |
|
kados |
thanks for your patience ;-) |
| 15:38 |
|
shaun |
i'll be gone by then... 9:00 GMT, thursday next week sound OK? |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
sounds ok with me ... course, any time is always ok with me |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
since I work on Koha now for NPL and LibLime it's pretty much Koha all the time ;-) |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
two full time jobs ... yay! |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
;-) |
| 15:41 |
|
kados |
how many times can paul quit without joining again ? ;-) |
| 16:02 |
|
indradg |
kados, around? |
| 16:06 |
|
shaun |
I'm off now, bye. kados - send mail ;) |
| 16:16 |
|
kados |
indradg: yep |
| 16:16 |
|
kados |
chris: if you're around ... do you happen to remember what the values for 'itemlost' mean? |
| 16:24 |
|
kados |
indradg: what's up? |
| 16:36 |
|
indradg |
kados, I was thinking how abt a pygtk interface for the circ module? |
| 16:37 |
|
kados |
right ... have you seen chris's work? |
| 16:37 |
|
kados |
http://www.bigballofwax.co.nz |
| 16:37 |
|
indradg |
yep... looked thru the screenshots |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
I'd like to see an XMLHttp front end |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
like Evergreen's |
| 16:38 |
|
indradg |
hmmm...interesting :) |
| 16:38 |
|
Genji |
morning. |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
morning Genji |
| 16:38 |
|
indradg |
morning Genji |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
so Chris has done a TK and a Curses implementation |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
http://www.bigballofwax.co.nz/[…]-bin/blosxom/koha |
| 16:41 |
|
indradg |
cool |
| 16:47 |
|
indradg |
kados, excuse my ignorance... the only time I fiddled with curses was back in the mid 90s... what I knew was that it worked on the terminal |
| 16:47 |
|
kados |
it does ;-) |
| 16:48 |
|
kados |
it's a widget toolbox |
| 16:48 |
|
indradg |
rite... but that might lead to issues with L10N issues with asian scripts |
| 16:49 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 16:49 |
|
kados |
I'd like to see XMLHttp |
| 16:49 |
|
kados |
we can likely steal the whole thing from Evergreen |
| 16:49 |
|
indradg |
most asian scripts.... particular all the indian langs don't behave on terminals due to rendering and character clusters issues |
| 16:50 |
|
kados |
(their mozilla plugin is based on XMLHttp) |
| 16:50 |
|
indradg |
yeah... /me was reading up XUL tutorials |
| 17:06 |
|
si |
joshua: 'tis saturday here |
| 17:06 |
|
si |
rach is out stewarding at a dog show |
| 17:55 |
|
kados |
ahh ... right ... forgot about the day diffs |
| 17:55 |
|
kados |
too bad |
| 18:08 |
|
si |
that's not to say that either of them won't be on some time |
| 18:08 |
|
si |
but I wouldn't rely on it :-) |
| 21:26 |
|
kados |
any Spanish or French Kohaites present? |
| 21:26 |
|
kados |
chris around? |
| 21:33 |
|
chris |
whats up? |
| 21:36 |
|
Genji |
hiya chris! |
| 21:37 |
|
chris |
heya |
| 21:55 |
|
kados |
hi guys |
| 21:55 |
|
kados |
chris: two questions |
| 21:56 |
|
kados |
1. did you ever commit your mozilla extension and README? |
| 21:56 |
|
chris |
nope, as i havent been able to generalise it yet |
| 21:57 |
|
kados |
2. do you remember what the itemlost status statuses are? |
| 21:57 |
|
kados |
0 is 'not lost' ... I'm assuming 1 = lost |
| 21:57 |
|
kados |
but what about 2-~? |
| 21:58 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 21:58 |
|
chris |
1 = marked lost by the librarian |
| 21:58 |
|
chris |
2= longtime overdue |
| 21:58 |
|
chris |
considered lost by koha |
| 21:58 |
|
chris |
if you set up your rules and use fines2.pl |
| 21:59 |
|
chris |
koha will mark items 2 after a set period and level the replacement charge on the borrowers account |
| 21:59 |
|
kados |
cool ... thanks |
| 22:02 |
|
kados |
and should itemlost be 0 by default, empty, or null? |
| 22:03 |
|
kados |
in 2.2 lost items are displayed alongside items present in the catalog ... on the initial search results sscreen |
| 22:03 |
|
kados |
I'm trying to alter the sql query that pulls out item info |
| 22:03 |
|
chris |
null or 0 |
| 22:03 |
|
kados |
elect items.* from items where biblionumber=? and itemlost< |
| 22:04 |
|
chris |
0 if its been 1 or 2 previously |
| 22:04 |
|
kados |
ok ... so itemlost<1 should work then eh? |
| 22:04 |
|
kados |
is null < 1? |
| 22:04 |
|
chris |
dont think so |
| 22:04 |
|
kados |
or is it undefined |
| 22:04 |
|
chris |
null is undefined |
| 22:04 |
|
kados |
shoot |
| 22:04 |
|
kados |
so maybe itemlost !=1 and itemlost !=2 ? |
| 22:05 |
|
chris |
and (itemlost = 0 or itemlost is NULL) |
| 22:05 |
|
kados |
ok ... I'll give that a shot |
| 22:06 |
|
kados |
thanks |
| 22:06 |
|
chris |
np |
| 22:11 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 09:53 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 09:53 |
|
kados |
ISP nab it? |
| 09:59 |
|
kados |
slef: do you know of a free 'meetup.com' resource? |
| 09:59 |
|
kados |
slef: I'd like to setup some kind of voting mechanism for meeting times |
| 09:59 |
|
kados |
slef: how does debian do it? |
| 10:00 |
|
kados |
(speaking of debian, would it be worth it to try to get a Koha package together for inclusing in sarge?) |
