| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:06 |
|
owen |
paul around? |
| 12:06 |
|
paul |
yes |
| 12:06 |
|
owen |
Hi paul. |
| 12:06 |
|
paul |
writting release notes for 2.2.2 in french |
| 12:06 |
|
paul |
good morning own |
| 12:06 |
|
owen |
we've run into a pretty nasty bug in circulation |
| 12:07 |
|
owen |
It happens when someone checks out an item which is on reserve for another patron. |
| 12:07 |
|
paul |
(my flight ticket for Columbus is in my hand... arriving on Saturday, april, 9 at 7:11PM) |
| 12:07 |
|
owen |
If you override the reserve, but don't cancel it, the item is made waiting for that other patron at the same time that it's being issued |
| 12:08 |
|
paul |
if I understand, it means : |
| 12:08 |
|
paul |
* item is reserved by X |
| 12:08 |
|
paul |
* Y tries to issue it |
| 12:09 |
|
paul |
* the librarian confirm & don't cancel the reserve |
| 12:09 |
|
paul |
* the item is marked "waiting" for X |
| 12:09 |
|
owen |
That's correct |
| 12:10 |
|
paul |
and X comes to the library to get the item, so, you'll have some problems... |
| 12:10 |
|
paul |
you should have some logs |
| 12:11 |
|
paul |
something like FillReserve, Waiting, Reserved |
| 12:11 |
|
owen |
Yes, I've noticed that |
| 12:11 |
|
paul |
then CancelReserve or transferbook |
| 12:11 |
|
paul |
and you have what exactly ? |
| 12:32 |
|
owen |
Reserved at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules//C4/Circulation/Circ2.pm line 846. |
| 12:32 |
|
owen |
transferbook at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules//C4/Circulation/Circ2.pm line 863. |
| 17:06 |
|
rach |
hello |
| 18:31 |
|
rach |
hi rosalie |
| 18:32 |
|
rosa |
hi rach, anyone else watching |
| 18:41 |
|
rach |
dunno - owen and paul were around earlier, but I haven't got time stamping turned on so I can't see how much earlier |
| 18:43 |
|
rach |
hi owen |
| 18:43 |
|
rach |
no one has helped me with my authority file confusion :-( |
| 18:43 |
|
owen |
Authority file confusion? |
| 18:44 |
|
rach |
I can't work out how to actually start/add an authority |
| 18:44 |
|
rosa |
that's two of us |
| 18:44 |
|
rach |
I think I need to do something with the marc mapping |
| 18:44 |
|
rach |
but it's doing my head in |
| 18:44 |
|
owen |
Do you mean an authorized value? |
| 18:44 |
|
rach |
yes |
| 18:45 |
|
rach |
so like "English" for language |
| 18:45 |
|
rach |
it *looks* like you can do it |
| 18:45 |
|
rach |
my question was wether it only worked if you were using unimarc |
| 18:45 |
|
rach |
which is what the docs seem to say |
| 18:46 |
|
owen |
No, I've used them with MARC21 |
| 18:46 |
|
rach |
yeah it didn't really seem likely |
| 18:46 |
|
owen |
How far have you gotten? Have you set up a list of values in 'Authorised values admin'? |
| 18:47 |
|
owen |
Start by going to Parameters -> Authorised values |
| 18:48 |
|
rach |
what is a category? |
| 18:49 |
|
owen |
A category is a group of authorized values, so you might create a 'lang' category for your language values |
| 18:49 |
|
rach |
ok |
| 18:49 |
|
rach |
and what is "lib" |
| 18:50 |
|
owen |
I don't see that. Is that on the 'add new category' page? |
| 18:50 |
|
rach |
yes |
| 18:51 |
|
owen |
My installation of 2.2 has Category, Authorised Value, and Text as the options. |
| 18:51 |
|
rach |
ok what is text? |
| 18:51 |
|
rach |
is that like the long version of the value? |
| 18:51 |
|
owen |
Yes |
| 18:51 |
|
rach |
so En = English |
| 18:52 |
|
rach |
:-) |
| 18:52 |
|
rach |
Ok so I've got a category = language, auth value = english, lib =English |
| 18:53 |
|
rach |
how do I add more to the same category? |
| 18:54 |
|
owen |
Is there an 'add authorised value' button? |
| 18:54 |
|
rach |
nope |
| 18:54 |
|
rach |
2 add category buttons |
| 18:55 |
|
rach |
so that might be a template bug |
| 18:55 |
|
rach |
hmm delete doesn't work either |
| 18:55 |
|
owen |
Hmm... Are you working with an up-to-date copy of 2.2? |
| 18:56 |
|
rach |
ah maybe not - 2.2.0RC3 |
| 18:57 |
|
owen |
I'm afraid we'll have to pick this up again tomorrow. I have to leave. |
| 18:58 |
|
rach |
ok ta |
| 18:59 |
|
rach |
ah that's funny, we're doing hte same thing rosalie |
| 18:59 |
|
rosa |
I might have to send someone off to do some MARC training |
| 19:00 |
|
chris |
im fairly sure the geneva convention prevents that rosa |
| 19:00 |
|
rach |
yeah I reckon :-) |
| 19:00 |
|
chris |
cruel and inhumane or something |
| 19:00 |
|
rach |
well unless they have been very bad :-) |
| 19:00 |
|
rosa |
:-))) |
| 19:02 |
|
rach |
did you just delete all those ones rosalie? |
| 19:02 |
|
rach |
ah no I see |
| 19:02 |
|
rosa |
which ones? |
| 19:03 |
|
rosa |
I've got country and language |
| 19:03 |
|
rosa |
as categories |
| 19:03 |
|
rach |
and thought the rest had gone, but it's not the case |
| 19:04 |
|
rosa |
keyword wouldn't be an authorised value |
| 19:05 |
|
rosa |
authorised value is the approved version of something - like the correct spelling and dates for a name |
| 19:05 |
|
rach |
IANAL :-) |
| 19:05 |
|
rosa |
IANAL? |
| 19:05 |
|
rach |
I am not a librarian |
| 19:06 |
|
rach |
usually i am not a lawyer |
| 19:06 |
|
rosa |
wise |
| 19:06 |
|
rach |
um we were thinking of having keywords/subjects as an authority, for our document management bit |
| 19:06 |
|
rosa |
maybe I need to do the MARC thing myself. i must have been very bad in a pst life |
| 19:06 |
|
rach |
so we do that for LGNZ basically |
| 19:07 |
|
rosa |
There you go. I knew there was a quick and dirty way to do authority control |
| 19:07 |
|
rosa |
that didn't invole a thousand headings and who knows how many thousand subheadings |
| 19:08 |
|
rach |
but you can do that if you want rosa :-) |
| 19:08 |
|
rosa |
the MARC training? |
| 19:08 |
|
rach |
no the hierachy of categories |
| 19:08 |
|
rach |
http://koha.hlt.katipo.co.nz/c[…]dmin/authtypes.pl |
| 19:09 |
|
rach |
maybe we need to go to france rosa, and get training from paul :-) |
| 19:10 |
|
chris |
you only need to go to ohio, in april and meet paul and the NPL there :-) |
| 19:12 |
|
kados |
chris: back? |
| 19:12 |
|
chris |
yep back in cold rainy wellington |
| 19:12 |
|
kados |
howdy! long time no read ;-) how was SF? |
| 19:13 |
|
chris |
i was in fullerton ... so im not sure :-) (down by LA) fullerton was good |
| 19:13 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 19:13 |
|
rach |
:-) |
| 19:13 |
|
rach |
hmm rosa just reading the marc cataloguing sales pitch "For a non-cataloguer who is adventurous enough to attend this |
| 19:13 |
|
rach |
workshop, you will leave with a better understanding of how cataloguing |
| 19:13 |
|
rach |
rules and MARC records work together to allow patrons to find the materials |
| 19:13 |
|
rach |
that we collect in our libraries." |
| 19:14 |
|
chris |
on a serious note, i wouldnt mind going |
| 19:15 |
|
chris |
i wonder how much it costs |
| 19:15 |
|
kados |
is it in NZ? |
| 19:15 |
|
rach |
$540 including GST |
| 19:15 |
|
rach |
yep it's in hamilton |
| 19:15 |
|
chris |
or christchurch |
| 19:15 |
|
rach |
the most boring city in NZ :-) |
| 19:15 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 19:15 |
|
chris |
id go to christchurch, rather than hamiltron |
| 19:16 |
|
rach |
true |
| 19:16 |
|
rach |
see the famdamily |
| 19:16 |
|
chris |
ahh 540 for both, or 180 for just MARC21 |
| 19:16 |
|
chris |
i guess we'd need to join lianza too |
| 19:17 |
|
rach |
we might get to wangle that |
| 19:17 |
|
chris |
well we are working on their membership database |
| 19:17 |
|
chris |
wouldnt be hard :-) |
| 19:17 |
|
rach |
we could add ourselves in :-) |
| 19:17 |
|
chris |
woo |
| 19:18 |
|
chris |
it cost me 1499$nz return to LAX via sydney |
| 19:18 |
|
rach |
it costs between $900 and $2000 NZ depending on what deals you can get |
| 19:19 |
|
rach |
they were doing $999 to san fran last year |
| 19:19 |
|
chris |
yep, i got that |
| 19:19 |
|
chris |
if you can avoid LAX, id heartily recommend it |
| 19:19 |
|
rach |
but it costs more to go at short notice usually |
| 19:19 |
|
rach |
still sucks then chris? |
| 19:19 |
|
kados |
yea ... |
| 19:19 |
|
chris |
yeah, all big airports suck |
| 19:20 |
|
rach |
later |
| 19:20 |
|
kados |
great to read you guys ... talk later ;-) |
| 19:20 |
|
chris |
cya later |
| 19:22 |
|
rosa |
sorry got called away |
| 19:23 |
|
rach |
almost like you're running a library rosa :-) |
| 19:23 |
|
rosa |
the library is an institutional member. Chris could go as an HLT person. loose affiliation not described |
| 19:23 |
|
chris |
ohh tricky |
| 19:24 |
|
chris |
oh did I tell you rach, i fixed bernadettes copyright date problem, and 3 or for other glitches |
| 19:24 |
|
rosa |
honorary temporary staff or summat |
| 19:24 |
|
chris |
(christchurch reminded me) |
| 19:26 |
|
rach |
yay thanks for that chris |
| 21:19 |
|
rosa |
we're back inbusiness |
| 23:29 |
|
indradg |
chris, hi |
| 23:29 |
|
chris |
heya indradg |
| 23:29 |
|
indradg |
around? |
| 23:29 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 23:30 |
|
indradg |
read the earlier transcript.... u said that u fixed the (c) problem that was being discussed on the list |
| 23:31 |
|
chris |
ahh this problem was just a template bug |
| 23:31 |
|
indradg |
i c |
| 23:31 |
|
chris |
the script was expecting an input with the name "copyrightdate" |
| 23:31 |
|
chris |
the html was <input type="text" name="copyright"> |
| 23:31 |
|
indradg |
so its not a shortcoming of the way Koha is managing the Marc tag for copyright |
| 23:32 |
|
chris |
nope, was purely that it was never actually being passed through to any of the subroutines |
| 23:32 |
|
indradg |
got it |
| 23:36 |
|
chris |
my first instinct is to always check the html::template files |
| 23:37 |
|
chris |
its so easy to break things by changing input names, or accidentally deleting the wrong line etc |
| 23:37 |
|
indradg |
yeah, so I learnt lately... after I managed to get over my perl aversion ;) |
| 23:37 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 23:39 |
|
indradg |
I have added a couple of fields to borrowers table for one of my installations.... 1) member's photo (standard passport sized mugshot) and 2) member's/authorised person (incase of inst member) signature |
| 23:40 |
|
chris |
ahh cool |
| 23:41 |
|
indradg |
I'm thinking of tweaking the barcode generator module to print out a bar-coded, photo_id library membership card |
| 23:41 |
|
chris |
that'd be pretty cool |
| 03:47 |
|
paul |
is rach around ? |
| 03:58 |
|
rach |
here |
| 03:59 |
|
rach |
http://pure-guava.org.nz/album[…]3813_sm.sized.jpg |
| 04:00 |
|
rach |
my nephew - a regular linux baby :-) |
| 04:00 |
|
rach |
http://pure-guava.org.nz/galle[…]Tommy/IMG_3817_sm |
| 04:00 |
|
rach |
that ones nice |
| 04:14 |
|
paul |
rach, about your chat with rosa & chris |
| 04:14 |
|
paul |
my opinion is that the best solution would be to translate my kohadocs.org |
| 04:14 |
|
paul |
migrer_ses_donnees.xml |
| 04:14 |
|
paul |
(that is in french only, sorry not to be native english ;-) ) |
| 05:05 |
|
si |
paul, are you still around? |
| 05:07 |
|
paul |
yep (11AM in France |
| 05:07 |
|
paul |
) |
| 05:07 |
|
paul |
si |
| 05:08 |
|
si |
rachel was asking if you were about |
| 05:08 |
|
si |
she wants to chat |
| 05:08 |
|
si |
but can't tear herself away from the tv :-) |
| 05:08 |
|
paul |
she can come, i'm here |
| 05:09 |
|
paul |
(working on z3950daemon) |
| 05:18 |
|
rach |
hello |
| 05:19 |
|
rach |
you're talking about our chat about authority files etc? |
| 05:20 |
|
rach |
I could probably get that translated by Regula maybe |
| 05:22 |
|
rach |
http://www.kohadocs.org/migrer_ses_donnees.xml |
| 05:22 |
|
rach |
that one? |
| 05:52 |
|
hdl |
hello |
| 05:59 |
|
paul |
rach, you're right. |
| 05:59 |
|
paul |
I was thinking to regula when writing this suggestion ;-) |
| 05:59 |
|
paul |
salut hdl |
| 08:32 |
|
indradg_ |
hi anyone around? paul? |
| 08:32 |
|
indradg_ |
chris? kados? |
| 10:10 |
|
sylvain |
hi all |
| 10:32 |
|
hdl |
hi |
| 11:21 |
|
paul |
sylvain ? |
| 11:21 |
|
paul |
bonjour |
| 11:22 |
|
paul |
tu bosses sur quoi actuellement ? |
| 11:22 |
|
paul |
(pour le point de situation à l'ENSMP) |
| 11:24 |
|
sylvain |
cette semaine j'ai pas trop fait de choses pour l'ENSMP |
| 11:25 |
|
sylvain |
mon prochain truc ce sera les commandes depuis le réservoir |
| 11:25 |
|
sylvain |
et la semaine dernière j'ai fait la séparation des paramètres mais tu dois déjà l'avoir noté j'imagine |
| 11:28 |
|
indradg |
paul, hi |
| 11:28 |
|
paul |
vivi. |
| 11:28 |
|
indradg |
ran into a problem while upgrading from Koha 2.0.0 to 2.2.0 |
| 11:28 |
|
paul |
ok, je note que tu bosses sur les commandes depuis le réservoir. Ca va pas être simple simple... |
| 11:28 |
|
paul |
indradg, hello. |
| 11:29 |
|
indradg |
paul, marc search frm Intranet as well as opac isnt working |
| 11:29 |
|
paul |
(on en parle si tu veux, mais demain, parce que vendredi je suis pas dispo, et lundi à la bib buffon pour une démo) |
| 11:29 |
|
indradg |
only ISBN search seems to be working |
| 11:29 |
|
sylvain |
demain je suis pas dispo ;) |
| 11:29 |
|
sylvain |
retour à l'école ... |
| 11:29 |
|
sylvain |
ça sera la semaine prochaine, j'espère que d'ici la j'aurai avancé unpeu |
| 11:29 |
|
paul |
indradg, do you change opac tempate to CSS and not default ? |
| 11:30 |
|
indradg |
on running koha.upgrade script i'm getting marc_word cannot open... table corrupt |
| 11:30 |
|
paul |
mmm... bad... did you try a mysqldump ? |
| 11:31 |
|
paul |
(to dump & backup the DB) |
| 11:31 |
|
indradg |
I did |
| 11:32 |
|
indradg |
but my backup (based on Koha 2.0.0) already has marc_word table corrupt... cannot read marc_word.MDY |
| 11:32 |
|
paul |
so, your DB is corrupted & you must solve this problem. |
| 11:33 |
|
indradg |
however on rolling back to Koha 2.0.0.. clean 2.0.0 install and installing the db backup (even with the corrupt table) searches work |
| 11:34 |
|
indradg |
shouldn't the corruption of marc_word table affect Koha 2.0.0 search functionality? |
| 11:36 |
|
paul |
no. |
| 11:36 |
|
paul |
many changes in search between 2.0 and 2.2 |
| 11:36 |
|
indradg |
ok |
| 11:42 |
|
hdl |
paul : dédoublonnage des authorités : cela suppose aussi de faire une procédure montrant TOUS les doublons ou non ? |
| 11:43 |
|
paul |
amha, dès lors qu'il y en a 1, il y a un pb. En tous cas, c'est comme ca que j'ai traité le pb puor les biblios |
| 11:44 |
|
hdl |
ok |
| 11:58 |
|
kados |
hi all |
| 11:59 |
|
sylvain |
hi and bye kados and all |
