| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 15:08 |
|
rach |
morning |
| 15:47 |
|
owen |
Hi rach |
| 15:48 |
|
owen |
I'm glad you asked the question on the list about subject maintenance. I'm confused about that too |
| 15:49 |
|
rach |
hi owen |
| 15:49 |
|
rach |
I was doing my idea for the intranet homepage |
| 15:49 |
|
rach |
and was thinking about the questions we're usually asked |
| 15:50 |
|
rach |
and "where do you do subject maintenance" is a definite FAQ :-) |
| 15:50 |
|
rach |
http://katipo.co.nz/gallery/al[…]103/intranet_home |
| 15:51 |
|
owen |
Koha 2.2 has much less emphasis on subject headings. Now when you do a subject search, you're not given a list of official subject headings to choose from. It simply takes you to search results. |
| 15:51 |
|
rach |
but will take critism/comments particularly on wether I've left anything off |
| 15:52 |
|
rach |
ah that is interesting Owen - it tends to be one of the things that needs to get sorted out when people transfer libraries I think though - they tend to want to tidy up their subjects |
| 15:52 |
|
rach |
I guess if disk is cheap, and it goes fast, they may not have to :-) |
| 15:52 |
|
rach |
but is useful for where a typo has snuck in etc in their old lists |
| 15:53 |
|
owen |
I wonder if that's something that's more of a focus for non-MARC libraries? |
| 15:53 |
|
rach |
yep |
| 15:53 |
|
rach |
because they are doing their own cataloging as well |
| 15:53 |
|
owen |
Many MARC catalogers tend to treat MARC records as sacosanct--they won't change it to suit the library, because they think it's already "correct" |
| 15:54 |
|
rach |
often why they aren't interested in marc is just that the records they want either aren't there, or don't make sense within the context of their library, and once you start doing your own cataloguing for some stuff, it's easier to keep going |
| 15:54 |
|
owen |
So your intranet home puts the catalogue up front by default? |
| 15:55 |
|
rach |
http://library.lgnz.co.nz/cgi-[…]ha/opac-search.pl |
| 15:55 |
|
rach |
(see use of subject there - that's what all the "categories" are) |
| 15:55 |
|
rach |
um sort of - it actually pulls all of it up, so there are no mouseover thingys which I just find anoying |
| 15:56 |
|
rach |
but catalogue is given most importance |
| 15:57 |
|
rach |
I missed that pauls ones did still have the search the catalogue box on the homepage - it fell off the bottom for me, so I haven't put it on, but I might |
| 15:57 |
|
owen |
One thing I tried to do in my template design was make top priority actions available from anywhere--so there's an issues form field built into the left-hand navigation |
| 15:57 |
|
rach |
an issues form field? |
| 15:58 |
|
rach |
like for issues and returns? |
| 15:58 |
|
rach |
circulation |
| 15:58 |
|
owen |
Where you can scan a library card to start an issuing session |
| 15:58 |
|
rach |
ah right - that is a cool idea |
| 15:58 |
|
owen |
So we've got that, a patron search box, and a catalog quick search box all in the sidebar |
| 15:58 |
|
rach |
do people use them? |
| 15:59 |
|
owen |
Honestly, I don't know. |
| 15:59 |
|
owen |
*I* do! :) |
| 15:59 |
|
rach |
:-) |
| 15:59 |
|
rach |
If you get the chance to sneak up on people, give it a go |
| 16:00 |
|
owen |
Yeah, I should. The trouble is, I work all by myself most of the time! |
| 16:00 |
|
rach |
it's really interesting to see what they do, and which cunning, useful things they completely ignore |
| 16:00 |
|
rach |
that's one of the really useful bits about going to conference and doing presentations etc |
| 16:01 |
|
rach |
you get a bunch of newbies, and take note of the bits they can/can't find easily |
| 16:01 |
|
rach |
would be good for small libraries I think though |
| 16:02 |
|
rach |
so is that in your npl templates? |
| 16:02 |
|
rach |
the ones with 2.2 |
| 16:02 |
|
rach |
because I'm on *strick* instructions not to introduce new functionality into these particular templates |
| 16:02 |
|
rach |
hence the questions about how I shoud/could do that :-) |
| 16:03 |
|
rach |
http://katipo.co.nz/gallery/al[…]d_in_home_bookbag |
| 16:03 |
|
rach |
that one got vetoed on those grounds |
| 16:04 |
|
owen |
Is what in my npl templates? The search boxes? |
| 16:04 |
|
rach |
in the official 2.2 npl released templates |
| 16:04 |
|
rach |
yep |
| 16:04 |
|
owen |
Yes. |
| 16:05 |
|
owen |
I'm gung-ho for introducing new functionality via the templates, particularly because my Perl skills aren't good enough to do much else. |
| 16:05 |
|
rach |
yep me too |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
I like your book bag list...I wonder how hard that would be to implement? |
| 16:06 |
|
rach |
apparently 2 days out from a major conference isn't a "good time" tho :-) |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
I see :) |
| 16:07 |
|
rach |
ah yep I see the circulation thingy |
| 16:08 |
|
rach |
I like the idea, maybe after conference :-) |
| 16:10 |
|
owen |
Here's an example of messing with the templates: originally you could only renew from the member details screen (moremember) |
| 16:10 |
|
owen |
I realized we could do it from circulation just by changing the template. |
| 16:11 |
|
owen |
All the librarians like it, but they hate the fact that the script automatically returns you to the member details screen instead of back to circulation! |
| 16:11 |
|
owen |
So now I'm back to messing with Perl... |
| 16:17 |
|
rach |
:-) |
| 16:17 |
|
rach |
sounds like a good innovation |
| 16:22 |
|
owen |
Hey, that wasn't too hard. |
| 16:57 |
|
rach |
excellent :-) |
| 17:59 |
|
owen |
chris, are you around? |
| 18:02 |
|
chris |
yep owen |
| 18:02 |
|
owen |
I've got a question for you. |
| 18:03 |
|
chris |
http://bigballofwax.co.nz:8081[…]koha/opac-main.pl <-- demo koha for the conference complete with 500 bibliographic records from NPL :-) |
| 18:03 |
|
chris |
fire away |
| 18:03 |
|
owen |
I'd like to show borrower flags in moremember.pl. Looking at circulation.pl, I see the flags are fetched via the patrontable subroutine. |
| 18:03 |
|
owen |
rach, your new template design looks great! |
| 18:04 |
|
owen |
chris, I'm wondering if there might be another subroutine in one of the modules that does the same thing? |
| 18:04 |
|
owen |
Or will I have to duplicate that in moremember.pl if I want to get the flag information? |
| 18:05 |
|
chris |
hmm |
| 18:06 |
|
chris |
good question |
| 18:06 |
|
chris |
ill go have a look |
| 18:07 |
|
chris |
all patrontable is doing, is putting the flags into a more readable format |
| 18:08 |
|
chris |
$borrower = getpatroninformation(\%env,$borrowernumber,0); |
| 18:08 |
|
chris |
actually fetches the info |
| 18:08 |
|
rach |
thanks owen :-) |
| 18:08 |
|
chris |
then my $flags = $borrower->{'flags'}; |
| 18:09 |
|
owen |
So what kind of data is $borrower->{'flags'} ? |
| 18:09 |
|
chris |
its a hash |
| 18:09 |
|
chris |
well a reference to a hash |
| 18:09 |
|
chris |
(or an associated array) |
| 18:09 |
|
chris |
foreach $flag (sort keys %$flags) { |
| 18:09 |
|
chris |
in patrontable |
| 18:09 |
|
chris |
is just looping over the hash |
| 18:10 |
|
owen |
Right. |
| 18:10 |
|
chris |
and setting some template parameters |
| 18:10 |
|
owen |
So I'd have to do the same thing in moremember.pl if I wanted to get similar output |
| 18:10 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 18:10 |
|
chris |
you have to hand some more meaningful data to the template |
| 18:12 |
|
owen |
Okay, well I should be able to bang on that and see what comes out. |
| 18:12 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 18:29 |
|
owen |
Since moremember.pl uses borrdata() instead of getpatroninformation(), the flags are there as separate variables |
| 18:30 |
|
owen |
So all I have to do is ask TMPL_IF NAME="debarred". |
| 18:30 |
|
chris |
ahh cool :) |
| 08:01 |
|
slef |
is paul trying to get a slap, marking rach's answers? |
| 08:01 |
|
slef |
:-) |
| 08:16 |
|
slef |
kados: hello? |
