| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:25 |
|
paul |
hi ambrose|w |
| 13:26 |
|
ambrose |
hi paul |
| 13:34 |
|
paul |
good morning owen |
| 13:35 |
|
owen |
Hi paul |
| 13:35 |
|
owen |
Snowy morning here today |
| 13:36 |
|
paul |
mistral here... |
| 13:36 |
|
paul |
(mistral is the wind we have in Marseille) |
| 13:36 |
|
paul |
when there is mistral : blue sky, but very very cold (for Marseille...) ! |
| 13:55 |
|
owen |
We're talking here at NPL about the possibility of blocking patrons from placing reserves if they are debarred. I wonder how difficult that would be? |
| 13:56 |
|
paul |
mmm... it's probably easy |
| 13:56 |
|
paul |
use C4::Members.pm::getmember to get member informations |
| 13:57 |
|
paul |
and add a <!-- TMPL_UNLESS name="debarred" --> <!-- /TMPL_UNLESS --> in the templates |
| 13:58 |
|
owen |
That doesn't sound too bad. |
| 13:59 |
|
paul |
maybe another solution would be to store debarred information in a cooki |
| 14:00 |
|
paul |
(at login stage) |
| 14:00 |
|
paul |
will be a less load for the server |
| 14:00 |
|
owen |
That's not a bad idea... Then you could use that cookie to change the template to one that was all red and black with skull-and-crossbones :) |
| 14:01 |
|
paul |
:) |
| 17:25 |
|
kados |
chris around? |
| 17:26 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 17:26 |
|
kados |
owen and I are trying to figure out where the holdingbranch value (available in the template) is hidden in request.pl |
| 17:27 |
|
kados |
chris: nevermind ... |
| 17:27 |
|
chris |
found it? |
| 17:27 |
|
kados |
sortof |
| 17:27 |
|
kados |
owen can fill you in on the details ;-) |
| 17:28 |
|
kados |
looks like there's a npl customization for holdingbranch that was never committed |
| 17:28 |
|
owen |
Here's the big picture: I was enlisting Joshua's help to get the holdingbranch information for waiting items output by opac-user.pl |
| 17:28 |
|
chris |
right |
| 17:28 |
|
owen |
I wanted to get both holdingbranch and pickup branch into that script so they could be compared |
| 17:29 |
|
owen |
If they match, then the items is really waiting. |
| 17:29 |
|
chris |
righto |
| 17:29 |
|
owen |
If not, then the item is still in transit |
| 17:29 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 17:30 |
|
owen |
I thought we could use getiteminformation() inside the foreach at line 124 of opac-user.pl |
| 17:30 |
|
owen |
but that doesn't seem to work. |
| 17:32 |
|
chris |
there is ItemInfo in Search.pm that might give you too much info tho |
| 17:33 |
|
chris |
how are u calling getiteminformation? |
| 17:34 |
|
kados |
so owen ... if you add $reserve{'holdingbranch'}=$item->{'holdingbranch'}; in the RESERVES loop that might work |
| 17:35 |
|
kados |
oops that won't work ... |
| 17:35 |
|
chris |
what script are u looking at joshua? |
| 17:35 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 17:35 |
|
kados |
:) |
| 17:36 |
|
owen |
Here's what I have in our copy of request.pl: |
| 17:36 |
|
owen |
if($reserve{'holdingbranch'} eq $reserve{'wbrcode'}){ |
| 17:36 |
|
owen |
$reserve{'atdestination'} = 1; |
| 17:36 |
|
owen |
} |
| 17:36 |
|
owen |
where 'wbrcode' is the destination branch for the reserve. I'd like to be able to do the same thing in opac-user.pl |
| 17:36 |
|
chris |
my $item=getiteminformation('',$res->{'itemnumber'},''); |
| 17:37 |
|
chris |
$res->{'holdingbranch'}=$item->{'holdingbranch'}; |
| 17:37 |
|
chris |
might do it |
| 17:37 |
|
chris |
or |
| 17:38 |
|
chris |
if ($res->{'branchcode'} eq $item->{'holdingbranch'}){ |
| 17:38 |
|
chris |
$res->{'atdestination'}=1; |
| 17:38 |
|
chris |
} |
| 17:38 |
|
chris |
im assuming that $res contains the itemnumber |
| 17:39 |
|
chris |
else my $item=getiteminformation('',$res->{'itemnumber'},''); |
| 17:39 |
|
chris |
will fail |
| 17:39 |
|
chris |
if it does, if you put that in around line 127, and then the if you should have the value available in the template |
| 17:40 |
|
owen |
syntax error at /usr/local/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac-user.pl line 126, near "'';" |
| 17:41 |
|
kados |
missing the ) ? |
| 17:41 |
|
owen |
Yep |
| 17:42 |
|
owen |
Looks like it's working! |
| 17:42 |
|
kados |
cool! |
| 17:42 |
|
kados |
better commit it right away :-) |
| 17:43 |
|
owen |
:) |
| 17:53 |
|
owen |
Hi rach |
| 18:19 |
|
tim |
Anyone here know anything about Flat Stanley? |
| 18:21 |
|
tim |
An off-topic question at the children's librarians request. |
| 18:21 |
|
tim |
She's looking for sponsors. |
| 18:22 |
|
owen |
I've heard of it. |
| 18:22 |
|
owen |
Can't remember if its something I heard about being done here or not. |
| 18:23 |
|
tim |
She'd like to get someone from out of the US. |
| 18:23 |
|
chris |
doesnt ring any bells for me |
| 18:24 |
|
tim |
One of the kids even asked for NZ |
| 18:24 |
|
chris |
ooh, i live there :-) |
| 18:24 |
|
owen |
:) |
| 18:24 |
|
chris |
what is flat stanley? |
| 18:25 |
|
tim |
I'm trying to find a web site that would explain it better than I could. |
| 18:25 |
|
chris |
righto |
| 18:25 |
|
owen |
http://www.enoreo.on.ca/flatstanley/ |
| 18:26 |
|
tim |
I couldn't connect. |
| 18:26 |
|
chris |
i could do that |
| 18:26 |
|
chris |
so they mail me a flat stanley, and i take it places and write a journal and take photos of it? |
| 18:27 |
|
chris |
shame it couldnt get here by monday, i could take it to the NZ vs the World 11 cricket match :) |
| 18:27 |
|
owen |
Can Stanley be faxed? ;) |
| 18:27 |
|
chris |
ohh yeah if you could fax it, and the journal |
| 18:28 |
|
chris |
if stanley was hanging out with me, he'd be in computer machine rooms, and in front of computer screens a lot :) |
| 18:29 |
|
chris |
oh, and im going to australia for a week in february |
| 18:29 |
|
tim |
I connected on the second try. |
| 18:30 |
|
chris |
or do they want kids? i know someone who teaches at a primary school (u guys call it elementary i think) |
| 18:31 |
|
tim |
It doesn't matter if there are kids. |
| 18:31 |
|
chris |
right, well id be willing to look after stanley for a while |
| 18:32 |
|
chris |
ill even write a blog for him |
| 18:32 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 18:32 |
|
tim |
I think they mail it. |
| 18:32 |
|
tim |
She asked me before she went to start todays after-school programing. |
| 18:32 |
|
chris |
cool, ill take him to the nz vs australia cricket match later on then |
| 18:33 |
|
chris |
waitangi day is feb 6 |
| 18:33 |
|
chris |
which is kinda like your guys independence day |
| 18:33 |
|
chris |
so that might be interesting |
| 18:36 |
|
tim |
I can ask her for more detail when she gets out. |
| 18:37 |
|
chris |
thatd be cool |
| 18:37 |
|
tim |
Thanks! She's been trying different places from a Flat Stanley mailing list without any luck. |
| 18:38 |
|
owen |
Maybe Paul knows someone who'd take him in? |
| 18:40 |
|
tim |
That would be cool. We have a bunch of kids who made 'em. |
| 18:42 |
|
tim |
I think I finally got the records and mapping set right on Koha. Been importing everything for a couple hours now. |
| 18:42 |
|
chris |
sweet |
| 18:44 |
|
kados |
hehe that Flat Stanley looks like a lot of fun ;-) |
| 18:46 |
|
tim |
It does. |
| 18:46 |
|
tim |
We probably have more to send if you want to do one. |
| 18:47 |
|
owen |
Okay, I've committed those changes to both opac-user.pl and request.pl. |
| 18:47 |
|
owen |
Next on the list is circulation.pl :) |
| 18:49 |
|
kados |
owen did you commit them to HEAD or 2.2.0? (how do we commit things to 2.2.1?) |
| 18:50 |
|
owen |
I committed them to HEAD, though they probably could go in rel_2_2 as well |
| 18:50 |
|
kados |
so rel_2_2 will become 2.2.1 right? |
| 18:50 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 18:51 |
|
chris |
and 2.2.2 and however many are made before 2.4.0 comes out |
| 19:08 |
|
owen |
So the itemswaiting loop in circulation.pl has holdingbranch but not destination branch. Would I use FindReserves() to get reserves.branchcode? |
| 19:27 |
|
LLMark |
Hi |
| 19:28 |
|
LLMark |
Anyone awake? |
| 19:29 |
|
LLMark |
Need to set up a "dual" install, one for our local campus and one for our extensionin Romania. Seems like I need to be able to set the ETCDIR variable, but I need a little help, if possibel. Thanks, Mark |
| 19:32 |
|
chris |
hi mark |
| 19:32 |
|
chris |
so you want to have a central database somewhere, and have to machines serving the opac and librarian interface .. is that right? |
| 19:41 |
|
kados |
chris I may have asked you this before ... do you use ssh_keygen to create passwordless ssh keys for use in backup scripts (using scp)? ... /me recently read that if the keys are passwordless the key is unencrypted ... |
| 19:41 |
|
kados |
chris: I was going to add some documentation on setting that up for Koha (in the backups document) but I wanted to pass the idea by you first (to make sure it's the 'right' way to do it) |
| 19:43 |
|
LLMark |
sorry, I went away . . . |
| 19:43 |
|
LLMark |
Yes, two installations of KOHA |
| 19:43 |
|
chris |
hmm if the key is unencrypted that doesnt sound 2 nice kados |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
mark: sharing the same database? |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
if so, its not too hard |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
in you /etc/koha.conf |
| 19:44 |
|
LLMark |
no, two different collections, tho I will transfer records between the two occasionally, probably |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
ahh, right |
| 19:45 |
|
chris |
then you just do 2 installs |
| 19:45 |
|
chris |
one on each machine |
| 19:45 |
|
chris |
and they each use their own database |
| 19:46 |
|
LLMark |
OK, at the beginnig of running installer.pl it says something about setting etcdir, but I didn't know when or where to do that. I take it this is to be done AFTER the installation? |
| 19:46 |
|
kados |
chris: how do you do passwordless scp? |
| 19:46 |
|
LLMark |
oops, I miscommunicated |
| 19:47 |
|
LLMark |
I want TWO separate databases on the same Linux Box |
| 19:47 |
|
chris |
ahhh right |
| 19:47 |
|
chris |
thats fine then :) |
| 19:47 |
|
chris |
how you do that is |
| 19:47 |
|
chris |
you do one install |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
and put the stuff in /usr/local/koha1/ say when it asks you where to put the opac /usr/local/koha1/opac etc |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
then when that is finished |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
mv /etc/koha.conf to /etc/koha-1.conf (or some more senseable name) |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
and edit the line in the httpd.conf that says |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
SetEnv KOHA_CONF "/etc/unidokoha.conf" |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
will say /etc/koha.conf |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
set it to /etc/koha-1.conf |
| 19:50 |
|
chris |
you can see here that i set it to unidokoha.conf .. we have about 8 kohas running one box |
| 19:50 |
|
chris |
then you do another install |
| 19:50 |
|
chris |
and you will have 2 koha's with 1 db each |
| 19:50 |
|
chris |
does that make sense? |
| 19:51 |
|
LLMark |
yes! |
| 19:51 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 19:51 |
|
chris |
joshua: i use passwordless keys |
| 19:52 |
|
LLMark |
there must be a separate section in httpd.conf for each install, I take it? |
| 19:52 |
|
chris |
thats right |
| 19:52 |
|
kados |
LLMark: actually, two, one for the opac and one for the intranet |
| 19:52 |
|
chris |
koha-unido-httpd.conf for eg |
| 19:52 |
|
chris |
i do it that way i have one conf file for each install then in my main httpd.conf |
| 19:52 |
|
LLMark |
WIll I have multiple SetEnv KOHA-CONF lines? |
| 19:53 |
|
chris |
i have |
| 19:53 |
|
chris |
include /etc/apache/koha-unido-httpd.conf |
| 19:53 |
|
LLMark |
OK! I'll go try and attempt to repor to the devel group when I get it all online and working! |
| 19:53 |
|
chris |
Include /etc/apache/koha-somethingelse-httpd.conf |
| 19:54 |
|
chris |
then its all nice and seperate and to turn one off, i just comment out the include line |
| 19:55 |
|
kados |
chris: this guy might be bsing but he says " An interesting feature of ssh-keygen is that it will allow you to simply press enter when prompted for a passphrase. If you don't supply a passphrase, then ssh-keygen will generate keys which are not encrypted!" |
| 19:55 |
|
kados |
http://www-106.ibm.com/develop[…]=dgr-lnxw07Backup |
| 19:56 |
|
chris |
ahh right, i cant remember how i generated the keys |
| 19:57 |
|
chris |
it was a while ago now |
| 19:57 |
|
si |
ssh-access |
| 19:57 |
|
si |
breakfast of champions |
| 19:57 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 19:57 |
|
si |
sorry ssh-keychain |
| 19:57 |
|
kados |
ahh yea I've heard about that |
| 19:57 |
|
kados |
so that will start the ssh_agent for you on reboot right? |
| 19:58 |
|
LLMark |
Thanks chris, et al. Bye |
| 19:58 |
|
chris |
cya |
| 19:59 |
|
si |
it makes the keys available to multiple processes |
| 20:00 |
|
kados |
si: so this would be a better choice than passwordless keys generated via ssh-keygen? |
| 20:01 |
|
kados |
(writing up docs for backing up Koha to a remote server via scp) |
| 20:01 |
|
si |
ohh my word yes |
| 20:01 |
|
si |
keychain helps you to manage ssh keys in a convenient and secure manner. It acts as a frontend to ssh-agent, but allows you to easily have one long running ssh-agent process per system, rather than the norm of one ssh-agent per login session. This dramatically reduces the number of times you need to enter your passphrase. With keychain, you only need to enter a passphrase once every time your local machine is rebooted. keychain also makes it easy |
| 20:02 |
|
si |
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/index.xml |
| 20:02 |
|
kados |
thanks si |
| 20:03 |
|
si |
it's a nice end run around th eproblems normally associated with running keys under screen |
| 20:07 |
|
kados |
yikes! this article also says that passwordless keys are unencrypted |
| 20:09 |
|
chris |
i think that means they are just stored unencrypted, not the connection is unencrypted |
| 20:09 |
|
kados |
right ... |
| 20:09 |
|
chris |
which i cant see is any worse than coding a user name and a password into an expect or shell script |
| 20:10 |
|
chris |
which is the other way you could do an automated scp |
| 20:11 |
|
kados |
yea ... I guess for the purposes of this documentation keychain may be a bit too complex ... but I'll include a link |
| 20:12 |
|
kados |
keychain will let your cron jobs 'source' your ~/.ssh-agent file to obtain access |
| 20:15 |
|
tim |
Hey chris! We mail a packet with Stanley and some info in it. |
| 20:16 |
|
tim |
You keep it for 5 days and write about what he's doing. Pictures would be nice too. |
| 20:17 |
|
tim |
If you'd still like to do it, let me know. We can exchange contact info and we'll send it out right away. |
| 20:17 |
|
chris |
cool ill email you my address |
| 20:17 |
|
chris |
whats a good email addy to send it to? |
| 20:19 |
|
tim |
tmcmahon at wlpl.org |
| 20:19 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 20:20 |
|
chris |
email on its way |
| 20:25 |
|
tim |
Firefox flagged it as junk mail. |
| 20:33 |
|
chris |
thats me, spammer chris |
| 20:33 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 20:37 |
|
tim |
Thanks. It'll probably go in the mail tomorrow morning. |
| 20:38 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 20:43 |
|
tim |
Could you email me if you do the blog so the kids can keep track of him while he's there? |
| 20:44 |
|
chris |
sure can |
| 20:45 |
|
chris |
ill try to do a blog, and take digital photos, so they can keep an eye on him |
| 20:45 |
|
tim |
That would be cool. The kids'll like that. |
| 21:13 |
|
kados |
tim if you have any other kids I'd do the Flat Stanley thing too :-) |
| 21:15 |
|
tim |
I'll check if any are left. |
| 21:18 |
|
tim |
She's out for supper. I think we'll have one, but I'll have to check later. |
| 21:19 |
|
tim |
woohoo! I have over 10000 records imported. |
| 21:20 |
|
chris |
excellent :-) |
| 21:20 |
|
tim |
Almost half-way there |
| 21:22 |
|
tim |
Is there any way I can switch it to run in the background so I can log off the server and let it run over night? |
| 21:39 |
|
kados |
tim: take a look at "screen" a terminal multiplexor |
| 21:40 |
|
kados |
multiplexer even |
| 21:40 |
|
kados |
http://www.michael-prokop.at/screen/ |
| 21:40 |
|
kados |
it will let you keep a terminal running on your server allowing you to disconnect and reconnect at will |
| 21:41 |
|
tim |
I knew about that, but wasn't using screen when I started the import. |
| 21:42 |
|
tim |
We have a Flat Stanley for you if you want kados |
| 21:43 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 21:44 |
|
kados |
I don't think you can background a running terminal |
| 21:44 |
|
tim |
That's what I thought. |
| 21:44 |
|
kados |
so ... can you email it to me? |
| 21:44 |
|
tim |
Email the flat stanley? |
| 21:44 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 21:45 |
|
kados |
jferraro at athenscounty.lib.oh.us |
| 21:45 |
|
tim |
We could probably do that. Would you like it emailed too chris? |
| 21:45 |
|
chris |
depends what the kids would like more |
| 21:46 |
|
tim |
I guess it tepends on if they fit in the scanner too. |
| 21:46 |
|
chris |
if they want something back, that they can stick up on the wall, mail is fine |
| 21:46 |
|
kados |
same here |
| 21:46 |
|
chris |
if they dont mind digital format, email is fine also |
| 21:47 |
|
chris |
i guess they could always print it out when we send it back |
| 21:48 |
|
chris |
mail takes anywhere up to 3 or 4 weeks to get to nz .. so email would be a lot faster for me, unless u airmail it |
| 21:51 |
|
tim |
We'll probably scan and email tomorrow. |
| 21:51 |
|
tim |
Just about closing time today. |
| 21:55 |
|
tim |
If I close the ssh connection, will the script stop running? |
| 21:56 |
|
chris |
maybe ;) .. probably |
| 21:56 |
|
tim |
That's what I was thinking. |
| 21:56 |
|
tim |
This computer runs XP and it's never held up running over night. |
| 21:58 |
|
chris |
ull have to play world of warcraft with the ssh session in the background :) |
| 21:58 |
|
tim |
Thanks for helping out the kids. And for helping me out. |
| 21:59 |
|
tim |
Gotta go to a board meeting now. |
| 22:03 |
|
kados |
no local stores have it ... |
| 22:32 |
|
kados |
chris ... have you seem Amarok? |
| 22:32 |
|
kados |
http://amarok.kde.org/ |
| 22:33 |
|
kados |
it does audioscrobbler natively |
| 22:33 |
|
kados |
it also downloads recommended songs from AS, and if you have the songs on your hard drive you can drag them onto the playlist |
| 22:38 |
|
chris |
ill have to check that out |
| 22:40 |
|
kados |
chris: what level are you in WoW? |
| 22:40 |
|
chris |
which character? ;) |
| 22:41 |
|
chris |
the one im playing at the moment is level 18 |
| 00:09 |
|
kados |
chris if you do check out amarok best start here: |
| 00:09 |
|
kados |
http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/14/2/ |
| 00:34 |
|
kados |
it also uses taglib for meta data reading: http://ktown.kde.org/~wheeler/taglib.html |
| 01:18 |
|
rach |
http://katipo.co.nz/gallery/al[…]ncept_home_review |
| 01:56 |
|
kados |
looks nice rach |
| 01:56 |
|
kados |
are those templates available somewhere in cvs? |
| 01:56 |
|
kados |
that's a nice addition too (10 most recently acquired items) |
| 02:02 |
|
rach |
ha ha |
| 02:02 |
|
rach |
you are such a card :-) |
| 02:02 |
|
rach |
they are currently in photoshop |
| 02:03 |
|
rach |
about to get made into actual templates -richard is in for a busy week |
| 02:03 |
|
rach |
but what I would like to know is if I've missed anything off |
| 02:03 |
|
rach |
etc |
| 02:03 |
|
rach |
I've based the book bag one on the NPL ones |
| 02:04 |
|
rach |
and I wasn't sure how realistic having an actual item featured on the front page was going to be |
| 02:04 |
|
rach |
we do it for a library customer who doesn't use Koha |
