| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:06 |
|
kados |
hey owen |
| 13:06 |
|
owen |
Hi |
| 13:06 |
|
paul |
hi owen |
| 13:07 |
|
owen |
The Amazon question sure got lots of attention. |
| 13:07 |
|
kados |
yea it's interesting stuff |
| 13:07 |
|
kados |
I emailed amazon to find out about legal ramifications of grabbing images, etc. |
| 13:07 |
|
paul |
you speak of cpan search::amazon package ? |
| 13:07 |
|
owen |
I don't know anything about it, paul |
| 13:08 |
|
paul |
good idea. Tell me the answer if you get one, and if amazon.fr may be concerned |
| 13:08 |
|
kados |
will do |
| 13:50 |
|
owen |
Hey, Gutenberg even has an RSS feed for adds and updates |
| 13:50 |
|
kados |
so we could add a link to the details page for items that queries project gutenburg based on title and author |
| 13:50 |
|
owen |
http://www.gutenberg.org/feeds/today.rss |
| 13:52 |
|
kados |
we could also display a "perform this search on project gutenberg to find relevant e-book results" link on our main opac search results page |
| 13:52 |
|
kados |
again, for title and author searches |
| 13:52 |
|
kados |
there's no keyword search |
| 13:52 |
|
owen |
wow, they even have digitized sheet music! |
| 13:53 |
|
kados |
that's e-book # |
| 13:54 |
|
owen |
The trouble is that isbn is edition-specific. |
| 13:54 |
|
kados |
er ... EText-no |
| 13:54 |
|
kados |
yea that's true |
| 13:54 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 13:54 |
|
owen |
Multiple isbn's could relate to a single e-text |
| 13:54 |
|
kados |
right |
| 13:55 |
|
kados |
it'd be nice to offer items that we don't have in the library in electronic format |
| 13:56 |
|
owen |
Well, that's where the link on the search results page could come in |
| 13:56 |
|
owen |
Unless you want to actually merge their catalog with ours. |
| 13:57 |
|
kados |
right I thought about that |
| 13:57 |
|
owen |
I guess you could catalog each of their e-texts as a www resource |
| 13:57 |
|
kados |
but the database is HUGE |
| 13:57 |
|
owen |
Create a MARC record for it. |
| 13:57 |
|
owen |
"more than 13.000" items |
| 13:57 |
|
kados |
wow ... 13 items isn't bad ;-) |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
actually 13,000 isn't bad either |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
I thought there were more than that |
| 13:58 |
|
owen |
I'll bet someone out there has already cataloged them. |
| 14:01 |
|
kados |
hmmm : http://www.netlibraryebooktool[…]rc_publicsets.asp |
| 14:02 |
|
owen |
But that's for *their* catalog. |
| 14:02 |
|
kados |
right and they've only got 3400 titles |
| 14:03 |
|
kados |
I bet I can write a script to parse through their catalog and build a bulk marc import file |
| 14:03 |
|
kados |
it won't have everything but it should work |
| 14:03 |
|
kados |
the gutenberg catalog that is (not netlib) |
| 14:04 |
|
kados |
and we could build it into Koha to automatically do this nightly :-) |
| 14:08 |
|
owen |
Makes sense to me. It should be fairly simple to break it down to MARC fields. You'll have to figure out what the gamut of headings are, and how they match to MARC. |
| 17:03 |
|
chris |
joshua/owen either of u about? |
| 17:05 |
|
chris |
http://library.katipo.co.nz/cg[…]-detail.pl?bib=35 |
| 17:08 |
|
chris |
just the amazon ratings thingy, bob did some tricky html stuff i dont quite understand, with divs to make the right number of stars show |
| 17:08 |
|
chris |
http://library.katipo.co.nz/cg[…]-detail.pl?bib=50 |
| 17:09 |
|
chris |
work ok in ur browsers? |
| 17:11 |
|
owen |
Works in Firefox 1.0, IE6, and Opera 7 on my PC |
| 17:12 |
|
chris |
thanks :) |
| 17:13 |
|
chris |
morning rosa |
| 17:13 |
|
rosa |
hi chris |
| 17:13 |
|
chris |
i was just showing joshua and owen this http://library.katipo.co.nz/cg[…]-detail.pl?bib=50 |
| 17:14 |
|
chris |
i think the worldcat idea is a good one also |
| 17:15 |
|
owen |
Joshua and I were talking this morning about how to provide links to available Gutenberg online texts from Koha |
| 17:15 |
|
chris |
ohh, good idea also |
| 17:15 |
|
chris |
right, i must go drink coffee before my meeting at 10 now, back later .. have a good evening ohioites and a good morning rosalie :) |
| 17:16 |
|
rosa |
may your day be caffeine enriched |
| 18:23 |
|
kados |
chris I will be around a bit later today |
| 18:23 |
|
kados |
I'd like to discuss amazon/worldcat/gutenberg possibilities if possible |
| 20:15 |
|
chris |
back now joshua, so whenever u get time |
| 20:34 |
|
emiliano |
Hi everybody |
| 20:34 |
|
chris |
hiya emiliano :) |
| 20:35 |
|
emiliano |
Hi Chris how're you? |
| 20:35 |
|
chris |
doing good thanks, getting back into work still after my months vacation .. how are you? |
| 20:36 |
|
emiliano |
needing vacations!!! |
| 20:36 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 20:37 |
|
emiliano |
Chris, do you know if is there a way to map more than one MARC subfield |
| 20:37 |
|
emiliano |
to a Koha field? |
| 20:38 |
|
emiliano |
(I have records with 100,110,111,700,710,711 that should be mapped to biblio.author or biblioaditional) |
| 20:38 |
|
emiliano |
100 or 110 |
| 20:38 |
|
emiliano |
and so on |
| 20:38 |
|
chris |
i dont think there is, paul will know for sure, additionalauthor is a repeatable field in the koha db |
| 20:39 |
|
chris |
so it should be possible, but i dont think its been set up |
| 20:39 |
|
emiliano |
I have seen the database but could not find, think it's impossible |
| 20:39 |
|
emiliano |
but want to be sure |
| 20:40 |
|
emiliano |
we made a turnaround making local MARC fields |
| 20:40 |
|
chris |
ahh right |
| 20:41 |
|
emiliano |
I find very interesting the actual discussion related to webservices |
| 20:41 |
|
emiliano |
Amazon, Barnes & Noble and so on |
| 20:41 |
|
chris |
| author | biblionumber | |
| 20:41 |
|
chris |
+------------------------+--------------+ |
| 20:41 |
|
chris |
| Loveday, Evelyn V. | 9 | |
| 20:41 |
|
chris |
| Wolfe, Ralph | 9 | |
| 20:42 |
|
chris |
thats how koha stores more than one author |
| 20:42 |
|
emiliano |
yep |
| 20:42 |
|
chris |
so i think it would be possible, just isnt currently |
| 20:42 |
|
emiliano |
but the problem is that you could map only one subfield |
| 20:42 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 20:42 |
|
emiliano |
I mean biblio.author could be |
| 20:42 |
|
emiliano |
100^a |
| 20:42 |
|
emiliano |
sorry |
| 20:42 |
|
emiliano |
100$a |
| 20:42 |
|
emiliano |
and aditionallauthor |
| 20:42 |
|
emiliano |
700$a |
| 20:42 |
|
emiliano |
for example |
| 20:43 |
|
emiliano |
but 110,111,710 or 711 |
| 20:43 |
|
chris |
yeah, i dont think it lets you map more than one field currently |
| 20:43 |
|
chris |
speaking of the webservices |
| 20:43 |
|
chris |
http://library.katipo.co.nz/cg[…]-detail.pl?bib=50 |
| 20:44 |
|
chris |
i have a script that fetches the average rating from amazon and stores it in koha, that you can run as a cron job |
| 20:44 |
|
emiliano |
Yes |
| 20:44 |
|
emiliano |
I have seen it |
| 20:44 |
|
emiliano |
it's wonderfull |
| 20:45 |
|
emiliano |
I think next year |
| 20:45 |
|
chris |
cool, i think we can extend this quite easily ... the worldcat idea sounds great too |
| 20:45 |
|
emiliano |
another SouthAmerican institution will join |
| 20:45 |
|
emiliano |
us |
| 20:45 |
|
emiliano |
from Bolivia |
| 20:45 |
|
chris |
ohh cool |
| 20:46 |
|
chris |
then it will be time to start a south america koha users group :-) |
| 20:46 |
|
emiliano |
yep! |
| 20:46 |
|
emiliano |
I was there about a month ago |
| 20:47 |
|
emiliano |
talking about MARC21 and Koha |
| 20:47 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 20:47 |
|
emiliano |
one of their requirements |
| 20:48 |
|
emiliano |
was about obtaining price lists |
| 20:48 |
|
emiliano |
for adquisitions module |
| 20:48 |
|
chris |
ahh yes |
| 20:48 |
|
chris |
that would be a very useful thing |
| 20:48 |
|
emiliano |
I was thinking that could be done via webservices |
| 20:48 |
|
chris |
yes i think you are right |
| 20:49 |
|
emiliano |
...if any editor has implemented... |
| 20:49 |
|
emiliano |
today I've only found Amazon & Barnes-Noble |
| 20:51 |
|
chris |
hmm |
| 20:53 |
|
chris |
those are certainly the big two, .. some smaller bookstores in new zealand have some of their catalogue online .. whitcoulls.co.nz is one |
| 20:53 |
|
chris |
or http://www.dymocks.com.au/ in australia |
| 20:53 |
|
emiliano |
but not implemented over SOAP isn't it? |
| 20:54 |
|
chris |
nope, you would have to screen scrape |
| 20:54 |
|
chris |
i think only amazon and barnes and noble have accessible API's |
| 20:54 |
|
emiliano |
I've tried to interest our local editor organizations |
| 20:55 |
|
emiliano |
but today, no success |
| 20:56 |
|
emiliano |
:-( |
| 20:56 |
|
emiliano |
(I was looking Katipo's OPAC in maori |
| 20:57 |
|
emiliano |
how many K's!) |
| 20:57 |
|
emiliano |
:-) |
| 20:57 |
|
chris |
ah yes, we've only translated a little bit of it, that was to show how its possible to let the patron choose their language .. or their theme |
| 20:58 |
|
chris |
ie, instead of maori, it could be WAP .. or no graphics .. or something so ppl can look at it on their cellphone |
| 20:58 |
|
emiliano |
wonderfull! |
| 20:58 |
|
chris |
just need to make a different set of html::templates |
| 20:58 |
|
emiliano |
yep |
| 20:58 |
|
emiliano |
we need to start english translation for 2.4 templates |
| 20:59 |
|
emiliano |
we modified many things |
| 20:59 |
|
emiliano |
:-( |
| 20:59 |
|
tungsten |
hi |
| 20:59 |
|
emiliano |
hi tungsten |
| 20:59 |
|
chris |
id offer to help, but i know very little spanish |
| 20:59 |
|
chris |
hi tungsten |
| 21:00 |
|
tungsten |
I'd like to add own's script to add amazon to opac search |
| 21:01 |
|
chris |
cool, you'll need to talk to paul poulain, (the 2.2.x release manager about that) |
| 21:02 |
|
emiliano |
Chris, for using this Amazon's API you need an Amazon account isn't it or it's access free? |
| 21:02 |
|
tungsten |
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/<!--TMPL_VARNAME="isbn"--> |
| 21:02 |
|
chris |
right, so its just a template change? |
| 21:03 |
|
tungsten |
I read the license user account or regisration is not required |
| 21:03 |
|
chris |
thats cool, are you on the koha-devel list tungsten? |
| 21:03 |
|
tungsten |
where is the template in 123 |
| 21:04 |
|
emiliano |
ok |
| 21:04 |
|
chris |
only the opac is fully templated in 1.2.3 |
| 21:04 |
|
tungsten |
no koha-devl |
| 21:05 |
|
chris |
actually i lie, i dont think any is templated in 1.2.3 |
| 21:06 |
|
tungsten |
really I'd like to go with 2.0.1 but same thing as six months ago I can't get around the no item count number |
| 21:06 |
|
chris |
i suspect the no itemcount is because holdingbranch isnt being set |
| 21:06 |
|
tungsten |
my marc does not support item types |
| 21:07 |
|
chris |
you could look in your items table, and if items.holdingbranch is null |
| 21:07 |
|
chris |
then the itemcount wont work |
| 21:07 |
|
tungsten |
123 gets around this by using if then else on the deweys in 852 holding if numeric JNF if not fic |
| 21:08 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 21:08 |
|
chris |
1.2.3 also set the holdingbranch properly |
| 21:09 |
|
tungsten |
I'm pretty facile in using macr2xml then sed for search and replace |
| 21:09 |
|
chris |
the count in 2.0.1 depends on the itemtype and the holdingbranch being set in koha |
| 21:09 |
|
tungsten |
I then use marc2xml and do bulk import |
| 21:10 |
|
chris |
http://library.katipo.co.nz/cg[…]Terry%20Pratchett thats a 2.0.1 install |
| 21:10 |
|
tungsten |
is that done in parameters and marc-tag struture |
| 21:10 |
|
chris |
i think so, it may be a bug in C4::Biblio that isnt setting the holdingbranch though |
| 21:12 |
|
tungsten |
I opened the url there a re two pages of docs which one? |
| 21:13 |
|
chris |
that was just a page showing the itemcount working |
| 21:13 |
|
tungsten |
nice |
| 21:13 |
|
tungsten |
are item types in your marc and of so what tag |
| 21:14 |
|
chris |
we dont use marc |
| 21:14 |
|
tungsten |
what then |
| 21:14 |
|
chris |
just the non-marc acquisitions |
| 21:14 |
|
chris |
in that install anyway |
| 21:15 |
|
tungsten |
could I take my marcs and transform them into non-marc using xml |
| 21:15 |
|
chris |
there is no bulkimport for nonmarc tho |
| 21:15 |
|
chris |
so what i would try to do |
| 21:15 |
|
chris |
is a bulkimport |
| 21:15 |
|
chris |
then look at the biblioitems table in koha |
| 21:16 |
|
chris |
check that they all have something set in biblioitems.itemtype |
| 21:16 |
|
chris |
then check the items table |
| 21:16 |
|
chris |
and check items.holdingbranch |
| 21:16 |
|
chris |
also check the itemtypes table .. to make sure that what is in biblioitems.itemtype matches something there |
| 21:16 |
|
chris |
for eg |
| 21:18 |
|
chris |
+----------+------------------+ |
| 21:18 |
|
chris |
| itemtype | biblioitemnumber | |
| 21:18 |
|
chris |
+----------+------------------+ |
| 21:18 |
|
chris |
| BF | 5 | |
| 21:18 |
|
chris |
| BF | 11 | |
| 21:19 |
|
chris |
select * from itemtypes where itemtype='BF'; |
| 21:19 |
|
chris |
+----------+--------------+------------+-----------------+--------------+------------+------------+ |
| 21:19 |
|
chris |
| itemtype | description | loanlength | renewalsallowed | rentalcharge | notforloan | publictype | |
| 21:19 |
|
chris |
+----------+--------------+------------+-----------------+--------------+------------+------------+ |
| 21:19 |
|
chris |
| BF | Free Fiction | 21 | 1 | 0.0000 | NULL | book | |
| 21:19 |
|
chris |
+----------+--------------+------------+-----------------+--------------+------------+------------+ |
| 21:20 |
|
chris |
| holdingbranch | homebranch | |
| 21:20 |
|
chris |
+---------------+------------+ |
| 21:20 |
|
chris |
| L | L | |
| 21:20 |
|
chris |
| L | C | |
| 21:21 |
|
chris |
and those branches should match something in the branch table also |
| 21:21 |
|
chris |
does that help? |
| 21:21 |
|
tungsten |
there was just another post today on help list about this item type not working I know types are defined in my 008 tag |
| 21:22 |
|
tungsten |
what tag is the bulkmacr import looking for |
| 21:22 |
|
chris |
i dont know |
| 21:23 |
|
tungsten |
then my question is wrong? |
| 21:23 |
|
chris |
no, just i didnt write bulkmarcimport .. so i cant answer |
| 21:23 |
|
tungsten |
do I need to look at this anohter way |
| 21:24 |
|
tungsten |
be patient |
| 21:24 |
|
chris |
one thing to check is after you have run the import, is biblioitems.itemtype not empty ie is it getting set |
| 21:25 |
|
chris |
if it is empty, then either the parameters arent set right, or bulkmarcimport has a bug |
| 21:26 |
|
tungsten |
I set the holding brach and item type to AF I then run marc check all is well |
| 21:27 |
|
tungsten |
however no item count |
| 21:27 |
|
tungsten |
I'll run it again |
| 21:27 |
|
chris |
do you have an itemtype AF set? |
| 21:27 |
|
chris |
and a branch AF? |
| 21:27 |
|
tungsten |
and look at the database |
| 21:28 |
|
chris |
ie there will need to be an entry in the itemtypes table for AF |
| 21:28 |
|
tungsten |
no branch MAIN itemtype AF |
| 21:28 |
|
chris |
ahh ok |
| 21:29 |
|
chris |
so |
| 21:29 |
|
chris |
select * from itemtypes where itemtype='AF'; |
| 21:29 |
|
chris |
works fine? |
| 21:30 |
|
tungsten |
I need to drop 123 and change my 852's to 952's and then I can repotr |
| 21:30 |
|
tungsten |
I need to drop 123 and change my 852's to 952's load 2.0.1 and then I can repotr |
| 21:31 |
|
tungsten |
one more thing |
| 21:31 |
|
chris |
yes? |
| 21:31 |
|
tungsten |
are you in ohio? |
| 21:32 |
|
chris |
no, im in new zealand |
| 21:33 |
|
tungsten |
it might be nice to show pictures of a system which is running koha |
| 21:34 |
|
chris |
of the librarian interface? |
| 21:34 |
|
chris |
we could do something like that, there are lots of opacs around, but we could probably take some screen shots of the librarian interface |
| 21:34 |
|
tungsten |
I'm interested in the barcode reader set up i.e. pictures of the computer and where the barcode reader hooks in |
| 21:34 |
|
chris |
right |
| 21:34 |
|
tungsten |
what kind of reader etc. |
| 21:35 |
|
chris |
ill ask rosalie what she thinks, (rosalie is the head librarian at HLT, the first Koha install ever) |
| 21:35 |
|
chris |
im fairly sure she'll let me wander around with my digital camera :) |
| 21:35 |
|
tungsten |
great |
| 21:35 |
|
chris |
also, joshua and owen from Ohio might be able to take some pictures also |
| 21:36 |
|
tungsten |
also of interest is the inventory method |
| 21:37 |
|
chris |
inventory? |
| 21:37 |
|
tungsten |
is it done on a palm? laptop with a barcode reader practical things like that |
| 21:38 |
|
tungsten |
notwithstanding the item count thingy being goofy |
| 21:38 |
|
chris |
ahhh right |
| 21:39 |
|
chris |
you could do it all with RFID without having to even move :-) |
| 21:39 |
|
chris |
im not sure how people have been doing it, it would be a good question to ask |
| 21:40 |
|
tungsten |
I'll ask the list |
| 21:40 |
|
tungsten |
thanks |
| 21:41 |
|
tungsten |
time to reload... |
| 05:30 |
|
paul |
rach, are u here ? |
| 05:30 |
|
paul |
(chris, same question) |
| 05:30 |
|
si |
hiya paul |
| 05:31 |
|
si |
she's about somewhere |
| 05:31 |
|
paul |
Hi simon |
| 05:31 |
|
paul |
Hollers ??? |
| 05:31 |
|
si |
(shouts) |
| 05:31 |
|
chris |
hi paul |
| 05:31 |
|
paul |
(ok, thanks) |
| 05:31 |
|
paul |
good evening chris (morning for me) |
| 05:31 |
|
paul |
(i'm GMT+1 for 5 months : it's 9:30AM here) |
| 05:31 |
|
si |
paul: she's a few minutes away from her pc |
| 05:32 |
|
paul |
ok, i stay close. I want to speak of 2.2 release date |
| 05:32 |
|
si |
that's easy, we're +13 |
| 05:32 |
|
si |
so you're a simple am<->pm shift away |
| 05:32 |
|
paul |
exactly 12H differences ;-) |
| 05:32 |
|
paul |
9PM and you're all 3 still at work... |
| 05:33 |
|
paul |
what are usual work hours in NZ ? |
| 05:33 |
|
si |
maybe chris is working |
| 05:33 |
|
si |
and contemplating playing with asterisk |
| 05:33 |
|
paul |
so it's a bot that writes for you ? |
| 05:33 |
|
si |
it's hardly work |
| 05:33 |
|
si |
I've just walked the dogs |
| 05:34 |
|
si |
paul: we're getting our house renovated at the moment |
| 05:34 |
|
paul |
so you sleep at work ? |
| 05:34 |
|
si |
http://pure-guava.org.nz/gallery/rennovation |
| 05:34 |
|
chris |
irc at home |
| 05:34 |
|
si |
I'm thiking about it |
| 05:34 |
|
si |
it's really loud when the builders start up |
| 05:34 |
|
chris |
im using a laptop in my lounge watching tv at the moment |
| 05:35 |
|
paul |
(i remember seeing the gallery/rennovation link a few days before. |
| 05:35 |
|
si |
ahh, todays photos are up |
| 05:35 |
|
si |
wool going into the walls |
| 05:35 |
|
rach |
hello |
| 05:35 |
|
paul |
hi rach |
| 05:36 |
|
paul |
do you have a few minuts to speak of release date ? |
| 05:36 |
|
rach |
certainly |
| 05:36 |
|
paul |
i planned to have a 2.2.0RC1 at the end of this week. |
| 05:36 |
|
rach |
that is great |
| 05:36 |
|
paul |
then an official 2.2.0 at dec, 1 |
| 05:37 |
|
paul |
(unless too many problems with RC1. but i'm not afraid of this) |
| 05:37 |
|
rach |
:-) |
| 05:37 |
|
paul |
2.1.3 works fine at EMN |
| 05:37 |
|
paul |
nelsonville seems to be able to play with it too. |
| 05:37 |
|
paul |
just misses some translations (turkish...) |
| 05:37 |
|
rach |
we have a copy up and running |
| 05:37 |
|
rach |
but haven't got far with it |
| 05:38 |
|
paul |
but a 2.2.0RC1 could help translators to speed up the translation process ;-) |
| 05:38 |
|
rach |
yes that is true |
| 05:38 |
|
paul |
I agree there are some tests to do with MARC=off |
| 05:38 |
|
paul |
that i haven't done. |
| 05:38 |
|
rach |
with marc off there is somethign fairly basic amis with acquisitions |
| 05:39 |
|
paul |
amis ? |
| 05:39 |
|
chris |
a miss |
| 05:39 |
|
paul |
(in french : ami = friend ;-) ) |
| 05:39 |
|
rach |
http://koha.qa.katipo.co.nz/cg[…]o-nomarc.pl?isbn= |
| 05:40 |
|
rach |
we're not getting past the first screen of data entry, if you try to do one without a reseviore record to help |
| 05:40 |
|
rach |
that is with acquisitions set to simple |
| 05:40 |
|
rach |
Just getting an internal server error unfortunatly |
| 05:41 |
|
paul |
do you plan to hunt bugs for this ? |
| 05:41 |
|
paul |
or just report them ? |
| 05:41 |
|
rach |
we can do both |
| 05:41 |
|
paul |
i'm not sure to be able to fix them |
| 05:41 |
|
rach |
I was going to start with hunting them :-) |
| 05:41 |
|
chris |
DBD::mysql::db do failed: Access denied for user: 'qaadmin localhost' |
| 05:41 |
|
paul |
so i'm OK to let you hunt then kill ;-) |
| 05:42 |
|
chris |
is whats happening |
| 05:42 |
|
chris |
which is weird |
| 05:42 |
|
rach |
and I wasn't sure here the problem might be - wether we'd need your help |
| 05:42 |
|
rach |
here = where |
| 05:42 |
|
chris |
i think its a mysql permissions thing |
| 05:42 |
|
paul |
unless there's a bug, ALL db delarations should use |
| 05:42 |
|
chris |
something to do with do |
| 05:43 |
|
paul |
my $dbh = C4::Context->dbh |
| 05:43 |
|
paul |
that should be enough to get a working handler |
| 05:43 |
|
chris |
yep, its the 'do' that is failing |
| 05:43 |
|
paul |
which script/line ? |
| 05:43 |
|
chris |
C4::Biblio |
| 05:43 |
|
chris |
line 330 |
| 05:44 |
|
chris |
i can work on fixing the non-marc acquisition bugs |
| 05:45 |
|
paul |
I bet EUR10 that $dbh is wrong in parameters |
| 05:45 |
|
chris |
ahh the lock |
| 05:45 |
|
chris |
thats whats its grizzling on |
| 05:45 |
|
chris |
i dont think so, since it works for the rest of koha |
| 05:45 |
|
rach |
ok - so basically, chris might need some pointers from you I think paul? |
| 05:46 |
|
paul |
yes rach |
| 05:46 |
|
paul |
chris, in Biblio.pm, with MARC=OFF, MARCaddbiblio is called by "sub newbiblio" |
| 05:46 |
|
paul |
my opinion is that the problem is in newbiblio |
| 05:46 |
|
rach |
we are doing some training with a new koha client next week though, which is great :-) |
| 05:50 |
|
chris |
found the problem paul |
| 05:50 |
|
chris |
| Lock_tables_priv | |
| 05:50 |
|
chris |
| N | |
| 05:51 |
|
chris |
i think it might be a problem in Install.pm , not setting the right permissions in mysql |
| 05:51 |
|
paul |
what's strange is : why does it works with MARC=ON ??? |
| 05:52 |
|
rach |
does it work with marc on? |
| 05:52 |
|
rach |
we didn't actually verify that by turning Marc on I think |
| 05:52 |
|
chris |
havent tried, can u check the permissions for the user in a mysql there? |
| 05:52 |
|
rach |
so I didn't actually try and turn marc on and see if it magically worked |
| 05:54 |
|
rach |
which now I come to say that would actually have been a good idea |
| 05:55 |
|
paul |
in Install.pm |
| 05:55 |
|
chris |
line 1790 of install.pm |
| 05:55 |
|
chris |
is the problem i think |
| 05:55 |
|
paul |
yep ;-) |
| 05:56 |
|
paul |
(that's what i wanted to say) |
| 05:56 |
|
chris |
that will only work with older mysqls |
| 05:56 |
|
chris |
right, we should fix that before dec 1 :-) |
| 05:56 |
|
paul |
1790 ? what does it contain for you ? |
| 05:56 |
|
rach |
so paul, do we need to get busy on a list of blockers basically? |
| 05:56 |
|
rach |
if there are any |
| 05:56 |
|
paul |
for me it's a comment ??? |
| 05:56 |
|
paul |
the list is empty on bugzilla |
| 05:57 |
|
rach |
yes that is what worried me |
| 05:57 |
|
paul |
yep. |
| 05:57 |
|
rach |
I think that there might be bugs that haven't been reported :-) |
| 05:57 |
|
chris |
system("$mysqldir/bin/mysql -u$mysqluser mysql -e \"insert into db (Host,Db,User,Select_priv,Insert_priv, |
| 05:57 |
|
paul |
releasing a 2.2.0RC1 could help ppl trying & testing |
| 05:57 |
|
rach |
yes I think so |
| 05:57 |
|
paul |
for me it's 1762 |
| 05:57 |
|
rach |
gives people something to work on |
| 05:57 |
|
paul |
(1765) |
| 05:57 |
|
chris |
ah this is 2.1.3 |
| 05:57 |
|
rach |
doh |
| 05:58 |
|
chris |
so maybe its a bit different in cvs |
| 05:58 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 05:58 |
|
rach |
ok so first we need a new one? |
| 05:58 |
|
chris |
but still, no lock_tables_priv |
| 05:58 |
|
paul |
yes chris. |
| 05:58 |
|
chris |
rach: 2.1.3 is the latest release |
| 05:58 |
|
paul |
but cvs has changed (a little) since 2.1.3 |
| 05:58 |
|
rach |
sorry loosing the plot a bit |
| 05:59 |
|
paul |
mostly bugfixes. |
| 05:59 |
|
chris |
i think fixing the lock_tables_priv will fix quit a few bugs |
| 05:59 |
|
chris |
quite |
| 06:00 |
|
paul |
yes for me. good night |
| 06:01 |
|
rach |
thanks paul - and good night :-) |
| 06:01 |
|
paul |
9AM for me... |
| 06:01 |
|
rach |
10pm now for me |
| 06:01 |
|
paul |
bed is not now |
| 06:01 |
|
paul |
;-) |
| 06:01 |
|
rach |
and the builders arrive at 6am tommorrow morning! |
| 06:01 |
|
rach |
so I chat again in a few hours |
| 06:02 |
|
paul |
go to bed quickly then |
| 06:03 |
|
rach |
thanks |
| 06:03 |
|
rach |
nite |
| 06:04 |
|
chris |
paul: i saw a tv program on sunday about a chef school in marsielle .. it looks like a beautiful place |
| 06:04 |
|
paul |
oh, yes Marseille is a VERY cool place. |
| 06:07 |
|
chris |
its on my list of places to visit |
| 06:08 |
|
paul |
don't forget to tell me when you come. I'll be happy to meet you |
| 06:08 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 06:08 |
|
paul |
(and maybe/probably to give you a bed to sleep) |
| 06:08 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 06:08 |
|
chris |
the same if you ever come to nz |
| 06:09 |
|
paul |
yes, of course. But maybe we could find a good Koha reason to meet. |
| 06:09 |
|
paul |
I plan to organize a meeting in Paris, in January, with french libraries interested by Koha |
| 06:09 |
|
paul |
to have a brainstorming on Koha future. |
| 06:10 |
|
chris |
excellent |
| 06:10 |
|
chris |
i visited paris in 1998 |
| 06:10 |
|
paul |
for soccer world cup ? |
| 06:10 |
|
chris |
id love to have an excuse to go back |
| 06:10 |
|
chris |
just for a vacation |
| 06:11 |
|
chris |
when united airlines flew from nz, you could get a good value fare to europe |
| 06:11 |
|
chris |
i visited munich, and paris that way |
| 06:13 |
|
chris |
1899$nz to paris at the moment |
| 06:13 |
|
chris |
return |
| 06:14 |
|
chris |
i think i wont be able to come this january, (no money after the wedding/honeymoon) :) |
| 06:14 |
|
paul |
no problems. january is cold/snowy anyway |
| 06:14 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 06:14 |
|
paul |
not the best quarter to visit France |
| 06:15 |
|
chris |
true |
| 06:16 |
|
chris |
perhaps sometime in 2005, maybe 2006 we could have a koha europe conference |
| 06:17 |
|
paul |
yes, good idea. |
| 06:17 |
|
paul |
of maybe in South america. |
| 06:17 |
|
paul |
if emiliano & he's team want to make some noise around Koha in Argentina |
| 06:17 |
|
chris |
yes that would be good too |
| 06:18 |
|
paul |
i'm invited in a conference in Ouagadougou (burkina faso) in January/February |
| 06:18 |
|
chris |
euro, and nz$ has good buying power in south america .. so would be less expensive for us to travel to there, than for them to travel |
| 06:18 |
|
paul |
of course !!! |
| 06:19 |
|
chris |
what is the conference for? |
| 06:20 |
|
paul |
it's about culture/developpement |
| 06:20 |
|
paul |
and Koha is very interesting here : |
| 06:20 |
|
paul |
* free software |
| 06:20 |
|
paul |
* librarian software |
| 06:20 |
|
paul |
so he's interested for both reasons ! |
| 06:21 |
|
paul |
librarian soft => culture |
| 06:21 |
|
paul |
free software => economic development |
| 06:22 |
|
chris |
right |
| 06:22 |
|
chris |
thats cool |
| 06:22 |
|
paul |
another cool thing : i've 9 RFP on my desk to install Koha ;-) |
| 06:22 |
|
paul |
3 are OK for sure. |
| 06:22 |
|
chris |
woo excellent |
| 06:22 |
|
chris |
thats great |
| 06:23 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 06:36 |
|
chris |
right, bedtime for me i think |
| 06:37 |
|
chris |
cya later paul |
