Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
13:06 |
|
paul |
Hi american friends that are on irc now |
13:07 |
|
owen |
Hi |
13:11 |
|
owen |
Paul can I ask you a question about serials? |
13:12 |
|
paul |
yes. |
13:12 |
|
owen |
I'm confused about the numbering calculation |
13:12 |
|
owen |
The help file says to use this kind of formula: N°{X}/{Y} |
13:14 |
|
paul |
yes, and ? |
13:14 |
|
owen |
...I guess I just don't understand! |
13:14 |
|
paul |
when you recieve an item, it usually has a number. |
13:15 |
|
owen |
Yes, like 'Volume 3, Number 10' |
13:15 |
|
paul |
for example, the actual linuxjournal is the #127 |
13:16 |
|
paul |
yes. so, what is your problem ? |
13:16 |
|
owen |
When you're adding a subscription, how do you fill out the 'numbering calculation' form? |
13:16 |
|
owen |
How does the numbering formula work? |
13:17 |
|
paul |
{X} will be replaced by the number calculated from the 1st row of the table just under the formula |
13:17 |
|
paul |
for example : |
13:17 |
|
paul |
Number {X} |
13:17 |
|
paul |
is the formula |
13:17 |
|
paul |
X being : |
13:18 |
|
paul |
Add 1 once every 1. When more than 99999 set back to 1 Begins with 127 |
13:18 |
|
paul |
will create Number 127, 1st, then Number 128,... |
13:18 |
|
paul |
You can create formulaes as complex as Number {X}-{Y} volume {Z} (with 3 variables changing independantly) |
13:19 |
|
owen |
I see, and the {Y} and {Z} could be for Volumes and Years |
13:19 |
|
paul |
yep. |
13:20 |
|
owen |
How should I fill in the box labeled 'numbering formula' ? |
13:20 |
|
paul |
You enter what you want and it's taken as you enter it. |
13:20 |
|
paul |
{X} {Y} and {Z} are replaced by calculated number. |
13:20 |
|
paul |
the rest is kept as you enter it. |
13:21 |
|
paul |
So "Volume {Y} Number {X}, year {Z} " |
13:21 |
|
paul |
will give "Volume 1 Number 123, year 2004" |
13:21 |
|
paul |
(for example) |
13:22 |
|
owen |
I see, so I should type out 'Volume {Y} Number {X}, year {Z}' in that numbering formula box so that when issues are added the volume information is displayed correctly. |
13:22 |
|
paul |
yes |
13:23 |
|
owen |
Great. That makes sense now. I'm upgrading the NPL templates, and I've been trying to get to know the new features. |
13:23 |
|
paul |
feel free to update online help if you find a better manner to explain ;-) |
13:27 |
|
owen |
One other question: Under 'subscription length' it asks you to specify 'number of num'. Does that mean the number of issues in the subscription? |
13:27 |
|
paul |
yes |
13:27 |
|
paul |
(I correct the template immediatly) |
13:27 |
|
owen |
And do you only need to enter information for one of those three? (issues, weeks, or months?) |
13:28 |
|
paul |
yes |
13:29 |
|
owen |
I see now that your online help could have answered that last question! I didn't see it. |
13:29 |
|
paul |
template change commited |
13:38 |
|
owen |
Hi tim |
13:40 |
|
tim |
Hi owen |
14:16 |
|
shedges |
hello, all |
14:16 |
|
owen |
Hi Stephen |
14:24 |
|
paul |
hi shedges & tim |
14:24 |
|
shedges |
hi paul |
14:25 |
|
paul |
owen / shedges : did I ask you to send me your marc parameters tables updated to 2.2 ? |
14:25 |
|
paul |
I don't remember... |
14:25 |
|
shedges |
owen, do we have them yet? |
14:26 |
|
paul |
(2.1.3 in fact, of course, 2.2 is not officially available) |
14:26 |
|
paul |
it's for the installer. I must update the official MARC21 default table. |
14:26 |
|
paul |
I remember asking for authorities MARC DB |
14:27 |
|
paul |
& I also remember stephen sended it to me |
14:27 |
|
shedges |
yeah,that's on sourceforge |
14:27 |
|
paul |
(was it stephen ? not sure) |
14:27 |
|
owen |
101 is updated from CVS. I'm not sure what has changed in the parameters though |
14:28 |
|
shedges |
(Paul, I wan't to change the copyright language a little on the doc I sent you, use GNU FDL. I send a new version for you to approve.) |
14:29 |
|
tim |
hi shedges, paul, everyone else I missed. |
14:29 |
|
shedges |
I haven't changed anything on 101, haven't really looked at it yet. |
14:34 |
|
paul |
back |
14:34 |
|
paul |
owen & shedges : what I need is an updated version of the mysqldump -c koha marc_tag_structure marc_subfield_structure. |
14:35 |
|
paul |
the -c being to get field name |
14:35 |
|
paul |
A fresh dump should help having a better default marc21 structure. |
14:36 |
|
shedges |
I'll edit the current tables (in a couple of days, I'm gone to a meeting for a while) then do a fresh dump |
14:36 |
|
paul |
ok, nice, thanks |
14:37 |
|
paul |
in france 48 hours before an election, it's forbidden for the ppl wanting to be elected to speak |
14:37 |
|
paul |
and forbidden to publish new stats |
14:38 |
|
paul |
so, it's quite ;-) |
14:38 |
|
shedges |
good rule! Bush voted this morning in Texas, then came to Ohio to campaign some more |
14:38 |
|
owen |
I wish polls were forbidden here as well. I especially wish that exit polling was forbidden. |
14:38 |
|
shedges |
here, here! |
14:38 |
|
shedges |
or is that hear!, hear! |
14:39 |
|
owen |
I don't know if anyone even knows! |
14:39 |
|
paul |
exit polling are ok here in france, but can be announced only 1 second after the last voting place closes ! |
14:39 |
|
owen |
That sounds like a good rule |
14:39 |
|
paul |
so, 8PM usually, because Paris/Marseille/Lyons usually closes at 8PM |
14:40 |
|
paul |
other small cities closing at 7PM, or 6PM |
14:41 |
|
shedges |
we have to wait until the polls in California close, i think at 10:00 pm our time |
14:42 |
|
paul |
note, to continue on this subject, that in France, your vote method seems really strange. |
14:42 |
|
paul |
electors vote by states, to elect "big electors", |
14:42 |
|
paul |
that have elect the president. |
14:42 |
|
paul |
quite strange for us, that elect the president directly. |
14:43 |
|
shedges |
yeah, we think it's strange, too -- we assumed we got it from the French ;-) |
14:43 |
|
paul |
in France we used this system in the 4th republic. |
14:43 |
|
shedges |
(that's where we got it, then!) |
14:43 |
|
paul |
(3rd, sorry) |
14:44 |
|
paul |
de Gaulle changed it because the parlment & french president was too unstable |
14:44 |
|
paul |
because we don't have only 2 major party. |
14:48 |
|
shedges |
it would be nice to change our system -- but that will _never_ happen |
14:48 |
|
paul |
why ? because it's in your constitution ? |
14:48 |
|
paul |
(not sure constitution is the english word) |
14:48 |
|
paul |
(it's the french one at least ;-) ) |
14:49 |
|
shedges |
no, just because it's a "sacred" American tradition |
14:49 |
|
shedges |
even though the reasons for the original system are no longer valid |
14:49 |
|
shedges |
(lots of ways to cheat in the early days) |
14:49 |
|
paul |
and it will survive 2000 and (i don't hope) 2004 days after the election ? |
14:50 |
|
shedges |
(also the Foundaing Fathers were all elitists) |
14:50 |
|
paul |
because it's something that makes laugh... |
14:50 |
|
owen |
You're justified in being an elitist if you're Thomas Jefferson. |
14:50 |
|
paul |
(/me means laugh, but in french "yellow laugh" means laugh, but is not really happy) |
14:51 |
|
shedges |
Rachel should be here -- she knows more American history than Americans do! |
14:57 |
|
paul |
look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F[…]h_Fourth_Republic and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Republic |
14:58 |
|
paul |
to learn a little bit more on our republic history ;-) |
14:58 |
|
paul |
(wikipedia is the best ...) |