IRC log for #koha, 2004-10-20

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12:26 kados actually it was the second
12:26 kados the first time we didn't mention the rss thingy
12:26 kados oops
13:37 kados ok
13:42 kados hmmm I replaced it with the latest 2.0 from cvs and renewals still aren't working
13:42 kados owen can you confirm that renewals are not working?
15:01 kados          Would it be possible to keep a tab of the items that need to be
15:01 kados          transfered and putting that info in a small side-bar with
15:01 kados [Mon Oct 18 14:28:00 2004] [error] [client 24.208.176.188] File does not exist: /usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs/opa​c-tmpl/npl-v/en/includes/opac.css
15:34 kados how'd that grep go?
15:54 kados owen here's what I get:
15:54 kados koha:/build/koha# grep -lr npl-v/en/includes/opac.css /usr/local/koha/*
15:54 kados /usr/local/koha/intranet/htdocs/intr​anet-tmpl/npl/en/opac-access_log.log
15:54 kados /usr/local/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/koha-tmpl​/intranet-tmpl/npl/en/opac-access_log.log
15:54 kados /usr/local/koha/log/opac-error_log
15:54 kados /usr/local/koha/log/opac-access_log
15:54 kados /usr/local/koha/log/opac-error_log.old
15:54 kados /usr/local/koha/log/opac-error_log.1
15:54 kados /usr/local/koha/log/opac-error_log.log.1
15:54 kados /usr/local/koha/log/opac-access_log.1
15:54 kados /usr/local/koha/opac-access_log.log
15:54 kados which is kinda silly since these are all logs :-)
15:56 kados owen: try grep -lr opac.css /usr/local/koha/*
15:56 kados that output is a bit more interesting
15:57 rach howdy
15:59 owen Hi rach
16:00 rach was v pretty
16:00 rach we got a bit lost on the way home from the fair
16:01 rach lucky the car knew which way East was :-)
16:03 owen You visited at a good time--the fall colors are at their peak
16:04 rach yep
16:04 rach we got attacked by geese on the way home :-)
16:04 rach that is how lost we were
16:04 rach and got a good old stare from a yokel
16:06 owen Yep, we've got our share of those.
16:06 owen Are you in Pittsburgh now?
16:06 rach nope back home now
16:07 rach Chris and Laurell will be driving the west coast on honeymoon
16:08 owen Oh, I'm confused because your message made it through to the Koha list just today :)
16:09 rach ah yes - chris and I moderate the list, and with us away, it didn't get through
16:09 rach for the koha list
16:09 owen Are those from people who aren't posting from an address that is subscribed?
16:14 rach a mix of those and just spam
16:14 rach so there would have only been a couple of "real" messages in the big pile
16:15 rach We are trying to get an upgrade of mailman going so that it deals with the spam itself
16:15 rach which would be nice
16:19 owen Yeah, shouldn't it just bounce messages which aren't from subscribed users?
16:30 rach ah no - because the you get into DNA situations
16:31 rach where you're used to attack something else
16:31 tungsten hi
16:31 rach hi
16:31 tungsten I like your htkm pages
16:32 rach erg - DNS not DNA
16:32 tungsten can you answer a question on item count?
16:32 rach I can have a go
16:36 tungsten koha 123 when I bulk import I get one item count The script does not go into the full record ie it only picks up the first 852 locqal holding tag if I run make a mark record and keep running the the bulimport all the 852 are picked up in other words if I have 5 copies I need to run bulkimport 5 times the first will be seen but the other 4 update to where the number of copies should be
16:39 rach hmm
16:39 tungsten thanks
16:40 rach that sounds a bit naff, but quite possible
16:43 rach sorry that's not much help
16:43 rach I'm not sure what chris does in that situation - knowing him he just runs it 5 times
16:44 rach do you have a lot of them?
16:45 tungsten yes
16:46 rach it doesn't error or anything?
16:46 rach it just only sees the first one?
16:46 tungsten yes
16:47 tungsten the error is a skipping error line 508 in bulkimport
16:47 rach did you send this to the list - I think I saw something like it
16:48 tungsten however if there are 5 I get 4 errors the first time thru and decremnt the error each time
16:48 rach I can send a mail to chris and see if he has a quick fix
16:48 rach that is just weird
16:49 rach and why are you using Koha 1.3?
16:49 rach or is it 2.3?
16:49 tungsten koha 123
16:49 kados rach I'm here
16:49 tungsten 2.0 is too difficult to set up
16:49 rach :-)
16:49 rach fair enuff
16:50 tungsten koha 123 when I bulk import I get one item count The script does not go into the full record ie it only picks up the first 852 locqal holding tag if I run make a mark record and keep running the the bulimport all the 852 are picked up in other words if I have 5 copies I need to run bulkimport 5 times the first will be seen but the other 4 update to where the number of copies should be
16:50 rach Joshua have you come acrross that before?
16:50 kados nope ...
16:50 kados I'd recommend 2.0.1
16:51 kados there is no marc support in koha 123
16:51 tungsten what do you mean
16:52 rach yes there is joshua
16:52 rach you're able to import marc
16:52 kados oh, right
16:52 rach you just don't have to see it :-)
16:53 rach and it doesn't store it as MARC seperate to the Koha DB
16:53 tungsten so I won't
16:53 kados right ... so it looks like there's a problem with the 'repeatable' feature of the bulkmarcimport in koha 123
16:53 tungsten be able to bulkexport?
16:54 rach yep
16:54 rach umm
16:54 rach I'll think about that
16:54 tungsten how to upgrade from 123 to 2.0
16:54 rach in the later versions of Koha, the records are basically stored twice
16:55 rach in MARC "native" format, and in Koha
16:55 rach I *believe* that you can still export from original Koha, and Chris has been working on update scripts for earilier versions to the latest ones
16:56 rach although we haven't been recommending people upgrade from 1.x to 2.0
16:56 kados The upgrade path from koha 123 is likely harder than just installing 2.0.1 from scratch
16:56 rach as if you're happy not seeing MARC there hasn't been any gains
16:56 rach it's 2.2 that has features you're likely to get some benefit from
16:57 kados yea 2.2's got some nice stuff
16:57 tungsten I'll give 2.0.1 a try but I found that if a record has a LOC tag it bypases 082 dewey and 853 local holdings
16:57 rach and that's what we'll want to upgrade HLT to
16:57 rach which will be the big upgrade project
16:57 rach for us anyway
16:57 kados yea ... us too
16:58 kados we're actually already running some 2.2 stuff on our opac
16:58 kados like the bookbag and improved searching features
16:58 rach we've been upgrading UNIDO from the pre release, to 2.0 but that's a little different I guess
16:58 rach yep
16:59 rach anyway. tungsten (I'm thinking Steve as a first name?), I've mailed Chris, we did get mail from him earlier today, so you might be in luck and he might be online checking his mail
16:59 tungsten is 2.2 easier than 2.0 with paameter settings or are they pretty much the same
16:59 rach same I think
16:59 rach but you can do really simple parameter settings - so that it's like 1.23 if you want
17:00 rach that's what we've been doing for people
17:00 rach just turning off the MARC stuff from a display POV, and using simple acquisitions
17:00 rach and it's pretty simple
17:00 rach if you use the vanilla templates (rather than default) I think it even looks ok
17:02 tungsten it's the 010 tag LOC # that ruins dewey
17:03 tungsten thanks again g2g
17:46 rach hi rosalie

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