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magnuse |
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ashimema |
anyone got any comments for https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]merge_requests/67 |
| 08:26 |
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ashimema |
it adds a check for any Sponsored-by, Mentored-by lines to the QA script to try and encourage more adoption |
| 08:26 |
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* ashimema |
has faced a few people of late asking how one gets a mention in the notes... that's the easiest way |
| 08:26 |
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Joubu |
I don't think it's the right place to advertise them |
| 08:27 |
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ashimema |
where would you put it? |
| 08:27 |
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ashimema |
the git hook? |
| 08:27 |
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ashimema |
as a question perhaps |
| 08:27 |
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Joubu |
99% of the time I won't need them, and I will see those "errors" when I run the QA script |
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cait |
i would not like it if it adds an extra step to my process |
| 08:27 |
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cait |
but a note that is visible woudl be ok I think? |
| 08:28 |
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ashimema |
it just outputs a note |
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cait |
maybe the commit hook |
| 08:28 |
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ashimema |
but happy for it to be in a commit hook instead |
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Joubu |
for me it will be noise :) |
| 08:28 |
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cait |
but the problem might be that the users who shoudl be reminded are not using either |
| 08:28 |
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ashimema |
but I think that would be more intrusive personally |
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Joubu |
even worse on every commit! |
| 08:28 |
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ashimema |
indeed |
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cait |
ok, vaid point |
| 08:28 |
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ashimema |
hence my thinking QA script.. QA script noise is easy to ignore |
| 08:28 |
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cait |
I understand the intention |
| 08:29 |
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ashimema |
commit hook asking for input less so |
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cait |
i hope not.. .) |
| 08:29 |
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Joubu |
this is teaching people to do it IMO, send emails to the release team, koha-devel, etc. |
| 08:29 |
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ashimema |
hmm |
| 08:29 |
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cait |
starting with overhauling our docs and advertising on the mailing list would be good |
| 08:29 |
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cait |
i think the sponsored by lines might be a little hidden in the wiki |
| 08:30 |
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ashimema |
is it really that bad to have a little reminder at QA time? |
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cait |
we coudl try |
| 08:31 |
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cait |
does it show red or can we use another color? |
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cait |
I didn't have time to test, sorry |
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Joubu |
please have a flag to disable it :D |
| 08:32 |
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cait |
hm push @errors, "Was this bug sponsored by anyone?" |
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cait |
coudl we have something like "info" |
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ashimema |
I was considering 'yellow' |
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cait |
that has another color |
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cait |
or blue maybe for better readability |
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ashimema |
yeah.. I don't believe the QA scripts have a distinction as yet |
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ashimema |
ah yes.. not everyone is in dark mode |
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cait |
i think it would help to distringuish |
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cait |
and also help with implementing a flag maybe |
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cait |
tos ay "don't give me info, just errors" |
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cait |
if that makes sense? |
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ashimema |
I'd find it more annoying having to add a flag |
| 08:33 |
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ashimema |
but hey |
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cait |
probably me too, but then Joubu will be happy |
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cait |
and can alias it or so :) |
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Joubu |
an alias will do it |
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Joubu |
I still don't understand the need for it so... |
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cait |
I think we got some complaints about missing sponsorships... at least that is an active step for prventing it |
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Joubu |
if you want more devs to add somethign for the sponsor, then the sponsor should ask for it or dev should be educated to do it |
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Joubu |
that's dev's fault |
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ashimema |
so is crap code |
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ashimema |
we still have a qa script to spot crap code and ask the devs to fix it |
| 08:35 |
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ashimema |
we also have a qa script to spot badly formed commit lines |
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ashimema |
I don't really see the difference |
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ashimema |
anywho.. I'm not really arguing.. just thought it would help having said reminder |
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ashimema |
I can just keep it local.. but then I'll be using a different QA script to everyone else |
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Joubu |
it won't hurt Koha tests or codebase quality to have those info missing |
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cait |
let's take a little step back |
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ashimema |
it does hurt release notes and contributor feeling though. |
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cait |
I think the idea is good, let's try it - I only requested it to look a bit friendlier |
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ashimema |
I'll make it blue when no-color isn't passed |
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cait |
ok |
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paulderscheid[m] |
Morning #koha |
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Joubu |
fridolin: Are you working on the failing tests? |
| 08:40 |
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Joubu |
fridolin: Looks like we are doing the same thing |
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Joubu |
I don't understand your email however |
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ashimema |
also drop the mentored by one as that's far less used |
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fridolin |
Joubu: yep, i am |
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Joubu |
where are you then? |
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fridolin |
I'm trying to add a session in UT |
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fridolin |
or should we mock the auth method ? |
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Joubu |
isn't because of CGI? |
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Joubu |
ashimema: why not requiring the sponsored-by line when the "sponsor" flag is set on bugzilla? |
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cait |
hm it is an idea |
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Joubu |
fridolin: please communicate on 24879 only |
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fridolin |
OKi |
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Joubu |
I let you on it then, switching to something else |
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ashimema |
I see the sponsor field on bugzilla used even less. |
| 08:48 |
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ashimema |
though we could perhaps only do ask based on enhancement/new feature |
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ashimema |
bugs don't tend to get sponsorship |
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ashimema |
though the qa script doesn't do any bugzilla stuff as yet.. does it? |
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Joubu |
nope |
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ashimema |
adding that sort of lookup could add weight to the whole thing... |
| 08:49 |
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ashimema |
I kinda like that idea though |
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ashimema |
ooh |
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ashimema |
I found a bug in our js tidy qa addition Joubu |
| 08:57 |
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ashimema |
it borks at new files |
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ashimema |
An error occurred : read_file '/kohadevbox/koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/lib/dayjs/plugin/isSameOrBefore.js' - open: No such file or directory at /kohadevbox/qa-test-tools/QohA/File/JS.pm line 20. |
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Joubu |
please report :) |
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ashimema |
will do |
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Joubu |
the QA script is actually totally buggy for a full year |
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ashimema |
was just trying to see if there's a simple fix |
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Joubu |
it does not deal correctly with deleted/moved files |
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Joubu |
I've tried to fix but it's worst then before now.. |
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Joubu |
but nobody noticed it seems... |
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Joubu |
ashimema: usually it's as simple as an early return if step == 1 |
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Joubu |
or step == 0, no idea if first is 0 or 1 |
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ashimema |
https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]tools/-/issues/84 |
| 09:03 |
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ashimema |
haha, thanks |
| 09:04 |
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ashimema |
pass rather than step by the looks |
| 09:06 |
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Joubu |
yes! |
| 09:08 |
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ashimema |
just testing the fix now |
| 09:09 |
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ashimema |
thanks for the pointer |
| 09:16 |
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ashimema |
grr |
| 09:16 |
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ashimema |
ok.. merge request submitted |
| 09:16 |
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ashimema |
not 100% on it.. it resolves the issue I was having.. but I see a different noise |
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oleonard |
o/ |
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oleonard |
I got that same QA script error yesterday and thought maybe my ktd was out of date or something |
| 10:36 |
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oleonard |
Bug 36434 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=36434 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Use a keyword that will be secretly included in all OPAC bibliographic and authority searches |
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oleonard |
@quote get 123 |
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oleonard: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
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oleonard |
That bug is one of the most Quote #123 things I've seen in a long time |
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cait |
sorry, i had a meeting this morning, will be available in half an hour or so (just stepping out for quick lunch) |
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tcohen |
hola #koha o/ |
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tcohen |
hola #koha o/ |
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Annelisterman[m] |
Hi! RedirectGuaranteeEmail - If the guarantee has several guarantors, will the guarantee's email be redirected to all of the guarantors? Does anyone know? :) |
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magnuse |
have fun, #koha. see y'all on tuesday! |
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ashimema |
Joubu https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]merge_requests/68 seems solid to me now.. I resolved my issues. |
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Joubu |
ashimema: do you understand why we reach read_file? There is already: |
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Joubu |
33 return q{} unless -e $self->path; |
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ashimema |
we trigger a read_file earlier to check for the new /* keep tidy */ line |
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ashimema |
that's why we get stuck |
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Joubu |
actually it's exploding in run_checks |
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Joubu |
I thought it was read_file from the check |
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ashimema |
I changed the submission completely with the most recent push.. the errors I posted on the page are no longer an issue for me |
| 12:32 |
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ashimema |
but maybe they are still there for you? |
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Joubu |
ashimema: it's not working, you are skipping the test for new files actually |
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Joubu |
erk it's a hard one |
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ashimema |
ack.. I thought I'd checked that |
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ashimema |
I thought it would check them on the second pass... i.e. once they actually exist |
| 12:51 |
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ashimema |
I'm confused |
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Joubu |
we don't have this case already. Here we want to conditionally add a check but we will now if it needs to be done only during the second pass |
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Joubu |
s/now/know |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
heyho #koha |
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caroline |
hi krimsonkharne! |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
hey caroline :) |
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tcohen |
Joubu: is cypress-mysql supposed to be the solution for getting rid of Selenium? |
| 13:42 |
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Joubu |
yes and no. Perl gives us a lot (TestBuilder for instance) that we don't have yet in JS |
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tcohen |
does a driver fro up to date selenium versions exist? |
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Joubu |
bug 29285 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29285 normal, P5 - low, ---, victor, ASSIGNED , UI tests: Selenium 4 support or setup Cypress to make them rewritable with it |
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marie-luce |
Hi all |
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marie-luce |
The documentation meeting is about to start. You're more than welcome to join us at https://meet.jit.si/KohaDocumentationMeeting |
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marie-luce |
#startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 2024-03-27 |
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_2024_03_27' |
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marie-luce |
#chair marie-luce |
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huginn` |
Current chairs: marie-luce |
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marie-luce |
#topic Introductions |
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marie-luce |
please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes |
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marie-luce |
#info Marie-Luce Laflamme, inlibro, Montreal, Canada |
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aude_c[m] |
#info Aude Charillon, PTFS Europe, UK |
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caroline |
#info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro, Montréal, Canada |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
#info Philip Orr, LMSCloud, Germany |
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blawlor[m] |
#info Brendan Lawlor, CLAMS - Hyannis, MA |
| 14:04 |
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marie-luce |
#info summary of our previous meeting |
| 14:04 |
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marie-luce |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_28_February_2024 |
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marie-luce |
#link https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-02-28-19.01.html |
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marie-luce |
#topic Review of action points |
| 14:05 |
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marie-luce |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ing_27_March_2024 |
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marie-luce |
#topic Online Documentation workshops |
| 14:07 |
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marie-luce |
#info The next workshop is planned for Friday 19 April 2024. It will start at 14 UTC |
| 14:08 |
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marie-luce |
#info Nothing is planned for the Hackfest so far, but maybe in development. |
| 14:09 |
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marie-luce |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_Drop-in_sessions |
| 14:09 |
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marie-luce |
#topic Automated screenshots |
| 14:09 |
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marie-luce |
#link https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34076 |
| 14:09 |
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huginn` |
Bug 34076: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , [ALTERNATE] [DOCS] Automated screenshots using Cypress.io testing framework |
| 14:10 |
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marie-luce |
#topic Koha manual accessibility assessment |
| 14:10 |
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marie-luce |
#info Philip is working on it. |
| 14:11 |
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marie-luce |
#topic Re-organising the manual |
| 14:11 |
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marie-luce |
#link https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32391 |
| 14:12 |
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huginn` |
Bug 32391: enhancement, P1 - high, ---, david, ASSIGNED , [DOCS] Reorganise the manual contents |
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#info David is still working to improve the manual. |
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#topic Ongoing projects |
| 14:14 |
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marie-luce |
#topic Automated screenshots |
| 14:15 |
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marie-luce |
#info Aude and Jonathan have been working on a automated guidelines. |
| 14:15 |
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marie-luce |
#link https://drive.google.com/drive[…]SOEJnaaJ5dn3ry3dc |
| 14:17 |
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marie-luce |
#info Jonathan has created a site which allow to compare Koha version screenshot |
| 14:18 |
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marie-luce |
#link https://koha-manual-screenshot[…]ha-community.org/ |
| 14:18 |
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marie-luce |
#info This site is available in English and Spanish at this stage. |
| 14:20 |
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marie-luce |
#link https://koha-manual-screenshot[…]n/html/index.html Mockup English Manual |
| 14:20 |
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marie-luce |
#link https://koha-manual-screenshot[…]s/html/index.html Mockup Spanish Manual |
| 14:21 |
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marie-luce |
#action Caroline, Aude and Jonathan should plan a meeting. |
| 14:26 |
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marie-luce |
#action We may need to review the effects of the automated script to minimize lost of image title and padding around images. |
| 14:30 |
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marie-luce |
#topic Same file name used on different images |
| 14:34 |
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marie-luce |
#info We may to create a name guideline to avoid image with the same alias in different manual folders. |
| 14:38 |
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marie-luce |
#info Caroline mentioned that image can be reused in a different folder. This is something to think before renaming an image file. |
| 14:42 |
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marie-luce |
#topic Documentation workflow: issues and ideas |
| 14:45 |
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marie-luce |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_the_Koha_Manual |
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marie-luce |
#topic Content Development Guide |
| 14:49 |
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marie-luce |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Development_Guide |
| 14:54 |
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marie-luce |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]-_Tips_and_Tricks |
| 14:55 |
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marie-luce |
#info Eventually, the Content Development Guide will include information about the automated screenshot tutorial. |
| 14:58 |
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marie-luce |
#info Next meeting: 24 April, 15:00 UTC |
| 14:59 |
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#endmeeting |
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caroline |
marie-luce++ aude++ thank you! |
| 14:59 |
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aude_c[m] |
marie-luce++ |
| 15:00 |
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marie-luce |
Thank you all |
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aude_c[m] |
Thank you! |
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caroline |
I think the command to list all images in source/images/ in alphabetical order would be `git ls-files source/images/ | sed -E 's/.*\///g' | sort` |
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aude_c[m] |
caroline++ |
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caroline |
and `git ls-files source/images/ | sed -E 's/.*\///g' | sort | uniq -c` shows how many times each filename is used |
| 15:11 |
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marie-luce |
handy Reg Ex* |
| 15:11 |
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marie-luce |
caroline++ |
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caroline |
ooh, and `git ls-files source/images/ | sed -E 's/.*\///g' | sort | uniq -c | grep '^\s*[2-9]'` shows only image names that are used more than once |
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caroline |
I'll put those in the gitlab issue just so I don't forget them |
| 15:24 |
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tcohen |
bbl everyoen |
| 15:30 |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
oh, nice! |
| 15:30 |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
caroline++ |
| 15:33 |
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oleonard |
Anyone had experience using MARC modification templates to add the 003 tag? |
| 15:33 |
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oleonard |
When I try it, the field is tacked on to the end of the record and has no value. |
| 15:33 |
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caroline |
Do marc mod templates work at all with control fields? |
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oleonard |
Do they not? I thought that was fixed. |
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caroline |
Is it? It would be great if it was. I always tell my clients to use MARCEdit for control fields |
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LisetteScheer[m] |
bug 28915 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28915 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , MARC Modification Templates should allow specification of a position or range within a control field |
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caroline |
I didn't think it was a problem for 003 though, since it's just a string with no particular length/position |
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LisetteScheer[m] |
What does your action look like? |
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oleonard |
https://snipboard.io/WkGevY.jpg |
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oleonard |
Hmmm... Maybe we just don't have the fix in our production system yet |
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oleonard |
Seems to work in master |
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LisetteScheer[m] |
I think something changed. Worked fine in 22.11, but in 23.11 get has not been modified. An error occurred on modifying it. (Tag "00" is not a valid tag. at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/SimpleMARC.pm line 215. ). |
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marie-luce |
I've done the test in 23.05 and weirdly Koha save the 003 entry at the end of the record in the biblio_metatdata table. |
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oleonard |
marie-luce: Yeah that's what I got too |
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caroline |
I think it's recent that it's not added at the bottom... In all my trainings ever when I showed batch modification, the added field is at the bottom |
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caroline |
I kind of like it because I know right away where to look |
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marie-luce |
True, it's an easy way to find what's new in the record. |
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caroline |
what version do you have oleonard? I tried in master, 23.05 and 22.05 and am able to add a value in 003 |
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oleonard |
23.05.09 |
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caroline |
did you try without the "if"? just as a test |
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caroline |
I also just looked at the marc preview... I did not actually do the modification, maybe that's the difference |
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caroline |
bbl |
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bye |
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wajasu |
well. i ran cypress tests only. neat! |
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wajasu |
fitnesse style testing is what this project needed. |
