IRC log for #koha, 2023-10-11

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06:01 reiveune hello
06:18 magnuse \o/
06:18 * dcook__ waves
06:18 dcook \o/
06:29 magnuse \o/
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06:49 cait good morning #koha
07:03 magnuse kia ora cait
07:25 ashimema Morning #koha
07:57 ES[m] Good Morning folks.
08:05 Joubu bug 34204 fixes ktd login in debian 12
08:05 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34204 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha user needs to be able to login
08:05 Joubu (patch is attached now)
08:28 Joubu For translators: do you like how the PO files split strings on several lines?
08:28 Joubu would not it be better to have the whole string on the same line?
08:41 magnuse i would say same line is better
08:58 Joubu \o/
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09:31 Joubu @later tell tcohen[m] commit edd378f4d1 Do you know why there is no wrap here?
09:31 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:33 Suneeta Help: can anyone guide me how to add SSL certificate i mean where to place Certificate and key file and how to add on 443 port
10:11 Suneeta Help: can anyone guide me how to add SSL certificate i mean where to place Certificate and key file and how to add on 443 port
10:15 oleonard Suneeta: Your question is not specific to Koha, so you would probably be better off asking it somewhere else
10:18 Suneeta SSL certificate in koha server
10:18 Suneeta to make my koha site secure
10:22 Suneeta oleonard: how you say this is not related to koha astonished
10:23 Suneeta Purely related to OPAC koha security
10:23 oleonard Suneeta: The question is about server configuration, not Koha specifically.
10:24 Suneeta typically about OPAC security Https
10:25 oleonard I'm not saying your question isn't important, I'm saying that you might get better help if you ask in a forum dedicated to the topic
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10:34 paulderscheid[m] Suneeta, maybe google for "ssl certs on apache vhosts" or something.
10:38 Zahid[m] Hi, can someone tell me why is **Allow auto-renewal of items:**   is always checked when adding new patron in memberentry.pl page?
10:38 Zahid[m] is auto renewal set in system preferences?
10:40 oleonard Zahid[m]: I think that is a bug
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10:41 ikshafi nyone help ??? I am trying to upgrade my koha 3.22 to koha 18.11. when I imported the mrc file in 18.11 all things went fine and added a new record with a new record number.  but the problem is my MRC file has also a record number. so that the control field of MRC record goes to 1 | 601.  (1 new record and 601 old). how can I overcome this problem !!..
10:43 Zahid[m] oleonard is there some thing to do ?
10:44 Zahid[m] have any body reported ?
10:44 Zahid[m] s/body/one/
10:44 oleonard I don't think it has been reported but I can file it
10:45 oleonard If I'm diagnosing the problem correctly then it's a small fix
10:45 oleonard An error in the template
10:46 Zahid[m] i am seeing the memberentrygen.tt file but confused about it
10:46 ES[m] <Suneeta> "Help: can anyone guide me how to..." <- I am setting up a lab to test Koha on port 443 (OPAC) and 4443 (Staff). This is not related to Koha but to Apache.  I will send you a private msg so i can share my findings with you.
10:47 oleonard Zahid[m]: I see this line: [% IF ( borrower_data.autorenew_checkouts || opadd ) %]
10:47 oleonard I think it's incorrect that the line includes "|| opadd"
10:48 Zahid[m] exactly but confused of this line, donot know the back side coding
10:48 Joubu Suneeta: there is a --letsencrypt flag you can pass to koha-create that is supposed to deal with everything
10:51 oleonard Zahid[m]: I see now that Bug 24988 made this change intentionally
10:51 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24988 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, CLOSED FIXED, autorenew_checkouts should default to yes
11:00 Zahid[m] can some one tell why autorenewal default value is set YES, if i want this to set default to NO when adding new patrons. what should i do ? is some values have to set in system preferences?
11:03 Zahid[m] we have to enter 4000 to 5000 new patrons in koha every new semester , it is difficult to set autorenewal to NO in each patron
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11:07 marcelr hi #koha
11:09 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Zahid[m]: Try adding this to the IntranetUserJS system preference" (7 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/27365
11:12 oleonard Zahid[m]: I'm focusing on the interface when I should be pointing out that you can configure autorenewal in circulation and fine rules. Unless there is a reason you cannot do that?
11:12 marcelr thx oleonard++ for the print.css patches
11:12 cait Joubu: it's a non-issue
11:12 cait Joubu: it's only multiple lines in po, in Pootle it's only one entry
11:13 cait Zahid[m]: it's checked because it will only apply if you allow it in the circulation rules
11:13 cait it's an opt-out option
11:14 cait but it doesn't mean all items of the user will auto-renew
11:14 Zahid[m] oleonard: i do not know about the auto renewal in ciruclation and fines rules. i was just assuming that this will be done in system preference.
11:14 * cait had a meeting all morning
11:15 Zahid[m] can you tell what is an opt-out option
11:15 cait if you are using auto-renewals - that means if you have set circulation rules where thing auto-renrew
11:16 cait it will work for patrons with the checkbox checked
11:16 cait if you uncheck the checkbox, for this patron they will be no auto-renwals
11:16 Zahid[m] ok i shall look into it
11:17 Zahid[m] i have to learn much about this new version of koha
11:23 Zahid[m] i have already set Renewals allowed (count) to 10 and Renewal period to 14 and Automatic renewal to NO
11:24 Zahid[m] is there any other values may be set?
11:26 Joubu cait: yes, but if I understood correctly some people prefer to pull the PO, translate locally, then upload the changes to pootle, in that case they are concerned by the change
11:31 Zahid[m] <pastebot> ""oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted..." <- i have added line in koha it work fine
11:38 Adarsh How guys! How can I get to know about the status of koga-docker for kubernetes?
11:38 Adarsh koha-docker*
11:45 cait Joubu: i tink they are using poedit then
11:45 cait almost always some type of edit
11:45 cait or
11:45 cait editor
11:46 Joubu yup ok, thanks for confirming I can do whatever is easier for me :D
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11:54 Joubu Adarsh: like that
11:55 magnuse huh, after upgrading to 22.11.10, if a non-logged in user visits a detail view in the opac, and the record has available items, koha gives a 500 error. works fine for logged in users and for records with unavailable items.
11:55 magnuse log says: Can't call method "unblessed" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Reserves.pm line 1430.
11:55 Adarsh Joubu: like this
11:56 magnuse that line is "my $any_available = ItemsAnyAvailableAndNotRestricted( { biblionumber => $item->biblionumber, patron => $patron });" inside ItemsAnyAvailableAndNotRestricted
11:57 magnuse sorry, the line is GetReservesControlBranch( $i->unblessed(), $param->{patron}->unblessed );
11:57 magnuse inside ItemsAnyAvailableAndNotRestricted
11:57 magnuse anyone else seen that?
11:57 Adarsh tcohen[m]: Heyy, I'm looking for the current state of koha-docker for kubernetes deployment. Can you please let me know?
12:01 cait can I get to the title of an item in TT if I have the itemnumber?
12:03 ashimema not that I can think of cait
12:03 cait hm
12:03 cait I am trying to get from a debit object to display the title information
12:03 ashimema is this a notice or koha template?
12:03 cait otherweise we don't know what the overdue fine is / was for
12:04 cait description is empty
12:04 cait also for our ILL fees... it pulls the title in via the itemnumber in the GUI
12:04 cait trying to make it happen in ACCOUNT_PAYMENT too
12:04 ashimema Debit extends Line
12:04 ashimema so you can traverse
12:05 cait oh to tiem
12:05 cait an then to biblio
12:05 cait debit.item.biblio
12:05 davidnind Adarsh: did you see the reply from tcohen yesterday? https://irc.koha-community.org[…]3-10-10#i_2513269
12:05 cait that's getting interesting
12:05 ashimema [% debit.item.biblio.title %]
12:05 ashimema yup
12:06 cait i missed the bit about extends line
12:06 cait where do I see that?
12:06 cait I was looking at Koha::Account::Debit
12:06 marcelr hi ashimema: we should have a chat about trackpatrons
12:06 ashimema line 22
12:07 ashimema use base qw(Koha::Account::Line);
12:07 ashimema so.. all the methods from Koha::Account::Line are available for you in Koha::Account::Debit
12:07 cait does it mean it's inheriting everything from LIne?
12:07 cait ok
12:07 ashimema yup
12:07 cait I don't envy the person trying to write the much asked for TT notices manual
12:07 ashimema go on marcelr
12:08 ashimema that bug is annoying me
12:08 ashimema I wish people would help.. rather than block
12:08 ashimema there was a core of functionality asked for which we did.. no people keep adding and adding to it and I'm at witts end
12:08 ashimema adding and adding to the requirements.. not actually helping
12:09 ashimema I'd far rather see code.. or follow-up bugs added
12:09 ashimema it's really upsets me that people would rather block a bug entirely than help
12:09 * ashimema soapbox
12:10 marcelr surely something can go on a follow-up
12:10 ashimema exactly
12:11 marcelr but ->is_active is used in expiry process, so cannot simply ignore data
12:11 marcelr we cant say we forgot to add holds to the track triggers, now we expired patrons..
12:11 ashimema it should not be hard coded in my opinion
12:11 marcelr maybe we do not even use datelastseen
12:11 ashimema different countries have different requirements
12:11 ashimema for expiry
12:12 marcelr just saying that it may be dangerous exercise
12:12 ashimema the entire point of lastseen was for expiry
12:12 ashimema I give up
12:12 marcelr no you should not !
12:12 ashimema oh so often these days I just want to fork
12:13 marcelr i am supporting your patch
12:13 ashimema sorry, you caught me in a grumpy day
12:13 marcelr but i dont want to overcomplicate the is_active one
12:14 marcelr these queries are done only now in cron job
12:14 marcelr and only when needed
12:14 marcelr so it just takes a bit more thought
12:14 marcelr in the meantime we can get triggers further
12:15 marcelr whats the current status about caching there?
12:15 ashimema I really don't like having methods that are synonyms everywhere.. it makes it incredibly difficult to understand the point of a method
12:15 Joubu ... ashimema: well, at least you get attention on your stuffs :D
12:16 ashimema lastseen was badly named in the first place really.. it was always meant to be a mark of 'activity'
12:16 marcelr my point is that they are no  exact synonyms
12:16 ashimema sorry Joubu
12:16 marcelr yes, features with a bad start create trouble later :)
12:24 marcelr ashimema: you are using strong expressions on the report, they are really not needed
12:27 Joubu magnuse: did you track it down?
12:28 Joubu isnt it "blows up" issue we had recently?
12:28 Joubu bug 34694
12:28 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34694 critical, P5 - low, ---, pedro.amorim, Pushed to stable , OPAC bib record blows up with error 500
12:28 Joubu (and friends, see related bugs)
12:29 ashimema lets just remove lastseen entirely then
12:29 ashimema it's pointless now
12:30 marcelr shall i just first try to get 15504 in pqa and then talk about getting further ?
12:31 ashimema well.. matt and I would appreciate that movement
12:32 marcelr right well, lets do that and we'll resolve the stuff around is_active too; should not be that hard
12:32 marcelr one step at a time
12:33 ashimema agreed
12:33 marcelr i'll take time later or tomorrow for 15504
12:33 marcelr np
12:39 cait should I start to complain about my tiny patches in QA queue too? ;)
12:39 marcelr no cait we would not listen :)
12:39 magnuse Joubu: thanks! i'll have alook at that bug!
12:39 cait I think we are all stuck here and there... only way through is helping each other. I am going from old to new with bugs first, if you join me, we'll get to your stuff at some point no doubt
12:40 cait ok and I cheated and took the very librarian marc update bugs, but you won't miss them :D
12:40 marcelr i am saying that for so many years already..
12:40 marcelr the queue is shrinking now, so we are getting better
12:40 cait yes, and I fully support you... when we have a reliable system it's waiting for your turn and we can stop to negotiate
12:41 Joubu it's where dev meeting could help, talking to each other, asking for help, listening problems, etc.
12:41 Joubu you know, the dev meeting...
12:41 cait marcelr: btw - I stole one bug from you, but you put your QA contact some years ago :) I have some follow-ups for it I need to finish
12:41 marcelr do we have such meetings lol ?
12:41 marcelr just remove me cait
12:42 Joubu let's all burn out and burn Koha
12:42 marcelr no way
12:42 cait (bug 8367)
12:42 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8367 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , How long is a hold waiting for pickup at a more granular level
12:42 Joubu no, we don't... https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_11_October_2023
12:42 marcelr that hold is waiting very long
12:42 cait just don't steal it back now please :)
12:42 marcelr four digit number..
12:42 marcelr just qa it soon
12:43 cait yes, I started Monday, couldn't finish last night, but this week
12:43 marcelr i wouldnt dare
12:43 Joubu cait++ ashimema++ marcelr++
12:43 ashimema I tohught we have a dev meeting this afternoon
12:43 cait hm 43 minutes ago..
12:43 cait we need an alert
12:43 cait with sound
12:44 marcelr thx everybody for attending :)
12:44 ashimema sorry chaps.. didn't mean to grump at you all.. you're the good people
12:44 ashimema doh.. I got my timeings wrong
12:44 cait .. so we are not the good people?
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12:45 marcelr good persons may have bad watches
12:46 magnuse Joubu++ cait++ ashimema++ marcelr++
12:48 cait Joubu++ cait++ ashimema++ marcelr++ magnuse++ ;)
12:48 huginn cait: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
12:49 oleonard cait++
12:50 cait hups
12:50 cait that was not intended
12:51 cait even wahanui is grumpy with me now: (14:48:21) wahanui: please don't karma yourself
12:51 * cait hides
12:51 magnuse shame on wahanui
12:51 magnuse @karma
12:51 huginn magnuse: Highest karma: "Joubu" (1239), "cait" (1055), and "ashimema" (874).  Lowest karma: "-" (-85), "failed" (-53), and "ie" (-41).  You (magnuse) are ranked 19 out of 1291.
12:52 oleonard cait: wahanui called you into their office for a stern talking to!
12:54 ashimema marcelr++
12:54 ashimema cait++
12:54 ashimema Joubu++
12:54 ashimema magnuse++
12:56 marcelr ashimema: it seems that you cant recall an item in staff for another user. but i may be mistaken
12:56 ashimema 🙂
12:56 ashimema ho..
12:56 ashimema I thought you could recall
12:56 ashimema it was article request I was wondering about
12:56 marcelr yeah i did so too
12:56 ashimema I thought that was an opac action
12:56 marcelr article request can be done, but the staff recalls page works differently?
12:59 ashimema I actually thought that only staff could do a recall at the moment
12:59 ashimema oh..
12:59 ashimema no..
12:59 ashimema it's the other way around
12:59 ashimema I remember
12:59 marcelr no you can via opac
12:59 ashimema its what I found so odd about recalls
12:59 marcelr staff says existing recalls
13:00 ashimema and why I didn't like it
13:00 marcelr you maybe only work on those
13:00 ashimema in the UK we really only ever want staff to be able to upgrade a hold to a recall
13:00 ashimema never have an end user be able to
13:01 marcelr yeah i remember discusison about name of feature
13:01 * ashimema chooses not to get there again..
13:01 marcelr so we can skip recalls in tracks
13:03 magnuse Joubu: you were right, it was bug 34694 i was seeing, on 22.11.10
13:03 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34694 critical, P5 - low, ---, pedro.amorim, Pushed to stable , OPAC bib record blows up with error 500
13:03 magnuse Joubu++
13:04 oleonard If I add a 'default_sort_order' to a table in columns_settings.yml should it just work? Or is there another step?
13:09 marcelr ashimema: does proving t/db_dependent/SIP/Message.t still pass with you on 15504 ?
13:09 marcelr DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha_myclone`.`checkout_renewals`, CONSTRAINT `renewals_renewer_id` FOREIGN KEY (`renewer_id`) REFERENCES `borrowers` (`borrowernumber`) ON DELETE SET NULL ON UPDATE CASCADE) at /usr/share/koha/Koha/Object.pm line 170
13:09 ashimema erm
13:09 ashimema it was..
13:10 ashimema but I may not have run it at the most recent rebase
13:10 ashimema I can check
13:11 marcelr test_checkout_v2()
13:13 cait there is a patch for recalls in staff
13:13 cait I quite liked it but it got blocked
13:13 cait i'd still love to see it go in - I think it would increase interest in the feature an dhelp to move it further
13:14 Adarsh Guys, how can we configure external postgreSQL Db in koha vm instance?
13:15 cait fun thing btw... we added a database update for SMS transport type and DUEDGST... and now it shows 2 entries in the notice editor that both lead to the same entry :(
13:15 cait I'll file
13:15 marcelr adarsh you are on a very difficult road
13:15 ashimema what bug was it cait
13:15 ashimema it was on my list but dropped off
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13:16 Adarsh marcelr: yes, how you see it?
13:17 marcelr ashimema: i refreshed my db and now it passes, cruft from some other dev i guess
13:18 marcelr adarsh: when you switch to mysql/mariadb and debian/ubuntu, more support is likely
13:18 magnuse Adarsh: the short answer is: koha only supports MariaDB: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]d_recommendations
13:19 magnuse the long answer is: you might perhaps be able to make it work, but there will be very few people to ask for help etc
13:19 marcelr magnuse: you use less letters in the long answer :)
13:20 magnuse lulz
13:20 Joubu Adarsh: Koha does not support PostgreSQL
13:20 Joubu you won't manage to make it work
13:20 * marcelr remembers the guys from Switzerland ?
13:21 Joubu bug 7365
13:21 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7365 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Koha should support PostgreSQL
13:22 Adarsh oh
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13:23 cait ashimema: I am just writing it up
13:26 cait bug 35029
13:26 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35029 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Doubled up entries in notices and slips after update
13:27 tcohen[m] Oh, I thought the dev meeting was in 30 minutes...
13:28 marcelr too late tcohen[m]
13:28 marcelr 12 UTC nobody was there :)
13:28 tcohen[m] Good morning/evening everyone
13:28 marcelr and buenos dias
13:29 tcohen[m] shall we have a short meeting?
13:31 ashimema I meant the recalls one actually cait 😜
13:31 tcohen[m] I want an update from Joubu on weblate
13:31 tcohen[m] Joubu: around?
13:34 Joubu everything is on the wiki page - https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]migration_weblate
13:34 Joubu I also sent an email to the list this morning
13:35 Joubu I am still fighting with everything
13:35 tcohen[m] Thanks Joubu
13:35 tcohen[m] would anyone here benefit from a meeting right now?
13:35 tcohen[m] Not a formal one, just a Jitsi call to catch up and mention things that are blocking you or need to highlight
13:36 tcohen[m] I'm available
13:36 tcohen[m] the required quorum is just another person ✌️
13:36 cait ashimema: sorry, too many things parallel, I'll find it for you
13:36 ashimema hugs
13:37 cait Bug 31391        - Staff-side recalls
13:37 cait tcohen: meet with me :)
13:39 Joubu fix the recalls bugs first?
13:39 cait Joubu: some where fixed since
13:40 cait we shoudl at least agree on what needs fixing
13:40 tcohen[m] https://meet.jit.si/KohaDevelopmentMeeting
13:40 Joubu I will attend dev meetings when they will take place at the time they have been planned ;)
13:41 Joubu now I am in the middle of other things
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14:10 thd Was there a time mistake on the meeting?
14:11 marcelr thd yes
14:12 thd marcelr: Has the meeting now been postponed for a different week or two weeks hence?
14:14 marcelr no some people are in jitsi right now
14:14 marcelr link ^^
14:14 marcelr <tcohen[m]> https://meet.jit.si/KohaDevelopmentMeeting
14:15 thd I had waiting for moderator
14:15 tcohen[m] we ended it a few minutes ago
14:15 tcohen[m] I will send an email about having it next week
14:15 tcohen[m] same day same time
14:16 thd What time would that be?
14:18 thd I had assumed that the two hours earlier time was only to avoid a meeting conflict for the previous meeting and would not continue today.
14:20 thd Also, I do not see startmeeting in the IRC logs.
14:22 cait thd: we didn't have a formal meeting and have not formally set a new date time yet
14:27 cait kidclamp: boo? :)
14:28 kidclamp eek
14:29 cait :)
14:29 cait just quick question: did I miss any way to configure an index alias for Elasticsearch that does not require changing Querybuilder.pm?
14:30 marcelr ashimema: a bit of attention for 15504 and we should be ready for pqa
14:30 ashimema thanks marcel
14:36 kidclamp I don't believe so. Would be nice, but has not been developed
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14:37 cait ok thx :)
14:37 cait kidclamp++ # one less post it on my desk
14:44 marcelr ashimema: you added 35027 very recently, isnt it
14:45 marcelr i rescoped 35030 now
14:45 ashimema yeah.. it somehow got wiped out of the dependancies in bugzilla
14:45 ashimema I'm happy for it to either just be resolved duplicate or for the two to remain distinct
14:45 marcelr i think that 35001 should be picked up after adding more triggers
14:45 ashimema think we must have just clashed on that one
14:46 marcelr np
14:46 ashimema agreed
14:46 * ashimema is going to grab a cuppa and then check this branch out and start looking at what's needed for the PQA 🙂
14:46 ashimema thanks for the review.. it really is appreciated
14:47 ashimema very sorry I was so grumpy earlier.. very unprofessional 😧
14:47 marcelr you can still read my frustration on 35001 :)
14:47 tcohen[m] #koha please remember we have a 'roadmap'
14:47 tcohen[m] https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Roadmap_for_23.11
14:48 tcohen[m] people put effort on filling it and working on things, look at your colleagues work
14:48 tcohen[m] and give roadmap items higher priority, if possible
14:49 marcelr tcohen[m]: it would be helpful to see that on BZ too some way or other
14:49 marcelr you just forget to check a separate document somehwere else
14:49 tcohen[m] I think the dashboard would be a better fit
14:49 tcohen[m] but yeah, maybe a saved search
14:49 marcelr bugzilla is our tracker, i still think we should see it there
14:50 marcelr keyword?
14:50 ashimema We could add some field in BZ and use that to populate dashboard
14:50 ashimema or even a field
14:51 ashimema question is.. how should it work..
14:51 ashimema with dated slots?
14:51 caroline_catlady keyword?
14:51 marcelr or just use release candidate ? it is bit of same
14:51 ashimema 'targetting' keyword
14:51 marcelr and it marks specific release
14:52 ashimema we already have rel_XX_YY_candidate keywords
14:52 tcohen[m] bug 33949 should be easy to test
14:52 marcelr yeah thats what i mean
14:52 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33949 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Replace GetAllIssues with Koha::Checkouts - opac
14:53 marcelr bug 33537 is on the roadmap too
14:53 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33537 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Move domain limits from koha-conf to staff SMTP configuration
14:53 tcohen[m] using rel_* is ok, but doesn't highlight the fact is part of the roadmap
14:53 ashimema candidate so far has been used near the end of a cycle to get the RM's attention.. or for the RM to leave a note to self to come back to before the end of the cycle
14:53 tcohen[m] I'd add a 'roadmap' keword
14:54 marcelr ok lets do it now !
14:54 ashimema i think having a target version up front may help more.. but even then I don't know that it would get much attention.. what I think we really need is a more dated approach to try and get us on the same page around the same times
14:56 marcelr htg
14:56 marcelr bye #koha
14:56 tcohen[m] bye marcelr!
15:06 oleonard caroline around?
15:06 caroline oleonard, yes
15:07 oleonard I wanted to get your opinion on a translation context thing, in serials-collection.tt
15:07 oleonard (which I noticed because of Joubu's "Do not wrap strings" message)
15:07 oleonard The template currently has this, for example: [% matches.0 | html %]Spring[% matches.1 | html %]
15:08 oleonard Maybe this as an improvement? [% tp("Serial numbering", "Spring") | html %]
15:08 oleonard Is "serial numbering" clear?
15:09 caroline maybe something like "seasonal serial numbering"?
15:09 oleonard Oh that's good, thanks
15:23 reiveune bye
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15:57 oleonard Wow that "Last patron" thing is really something now...
15:58 ashimema lol
16:00 oleonard It's like we're parking a truck right there
16:03 cait it's configurable
16:03 cait the number I mean
16:03 cait or is it the design?
16:05 oleonard It's very large
16:09 cait did you run yarn build?
16:10 cait it didn't look that different to me
16:14 cait bbl - bye all!
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17:44 oleonard Maybe this instead? https://snipboard.io/u1zMcr.jpg
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18:13 ashimema That's nice oleonard
18:21 davidnind hoping that not having text is an option (what immediately come to my mind is insert something, eject something, refresh the browser, ID, search...) - they look in proportion, whihc I assume is what you are getting at 8-)
18:58 tcohen[m] looks nice, oleonard
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20:55 paulderscheid[m] @later tell dcook thanks for the work on the keycloak stuff! dcook++
20:55 huginn paulderscheid[m]: The operation succeeded.
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21:37 aleisha hey everyone i have a question about an API endpoint for checkins
21:39 aleisha actually never mind lol
21:41 davidnind oleonard: got the wrong gist for your screenshot - looks good to me! (bug 35037)
21:41 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35037 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Revise the appearance of the last patron button

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