IRC log for #koha, 2022-08-08

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00:37 mtj hi wajasu, regarding your install problem with a trailing apt repo line of '...22.05 main bullseye'
00:38 mtj it makes no difference :)
00:39 mtj so your difference between installations is caused by something else
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03:01 wajasu mtj: i'll play around with it next time I mess with my builds script. I'll put bullseye back in.
03:03 wajasu ashimema: glad to know I can keep << >> for now.
03:35 dcook Can't wait for us to get rid of << >> hehe
03:37 wajasu i'm laying around learning about the plack/starman/mojolicious
03:43 dcook bug 6936
03:43 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6936 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Allow to limit on multiple itemtypes when exporting bibliographic records
03:43 dcook wajasu: Good thing to learn about!
03:44 dcook The plack/starman/mojolicious that is
03:44 dcook Conceptually, it's a good thing to know in regards to any language really..
03:44 dcook Just has different names elsewhere
03:51 wajasu yea. same concepts in app servers best practices.
03:52 wajasu i have 512 swap.  i made plack requests 3 and workers 15.  no go.  swapped...  mariadb crashed :)
03:52 wajasu i think i'll add a 4G swapfile.  and stick with 1 worker and 50 requests.
03:53 wajasu i can see why it might be better to deploy mariadb on a second server.
03:55 wajasu plack/starman can blowup,  and maybe recover.
03:56 wajasu i will probably play with strace/strac/dtruss to maybe see what eats cpu in opac-search
03:56 wajasu it might just be too many tasks.
03:57 wajasu things work without crashing on my constrained 1cpu 2GB ram VPS.
03:58 wajasu college students will hit the server tuesday during orientation. crosses-fingers.
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05:09 dcook If anyone wants an easy sign off to fix master: bug 31303
05:09 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31303 critical, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Fatal error when viewing OPAC user account with waiting holds
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06:45 alex_ Bonjour
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06:54 magnuse \o/
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07:06 _hagud good morning, I am facing an issue with LDAP's authentication, it was working before , but after a certificate change in customer's ldap is not working anymore.. I am getting ldap_sasl_bind(SIMPLE): Can't contact LDAP server (-1) although is reachable via telnet... the customer has sent me a ssl certificate, but I do not know If I can apply to koha, any help on this, please? or any tip or suggestion?
07:40 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha
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09:47 paulderscheid[m] Got another question concerning plugins.
09:47 paulderscheid[m] I found a supposed Variable in a comment saying that [% PLUGIN_PATH %] gives the path to the plugins root dir.
09:48 paulderscheid[m] Doesn't seem to work though.
09:49 paulderscheid[m] What I want to achieve is sharing JS between pages.
09:50 paulderscheid[m] And CSS.
09:50 paulderscheid[m] Morning ashimema
09:50 paulderscheid[m] Could you elaborate?
09:51 paulderscheid[m] BTW could we move the Koha Advent plugin stuff into the docs?
09:52 paulderscheid[m] The wiki page I suppose
09:53 paulderscheid[m] Will you be @ kohacon?
09:53 paulderscheid[m] Would be a great opportunity to discuss stuff like that
09:54 paulderscheid[m] Haha, I just remembered that I asked the same question couple months ago and you gave me the same answer ^^
10:00 paulderscheid[m] Alright
10:01 paulderscheid[m] Next hackfest will be fun as I can do stuff now ^^
10:02 paulderscheid[m] Likewise
10:21 paulderscheid[m] Now it complains about the mimetype
10:22 paulderscheid[m] Do I have to specify the mimetype in staticapi.json?
10:27 paulderscheid[m] I did something wrong. Its mimetype was text/html because of the 404 page.
10:27 paulderscheid[m] Nevermind
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10:35 paulderscheid[m] Now it works
10:35 paulderscheid[m] ashimema++
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11:06 cait ... I don't see ashimema talking... interesting
11:08 cait paulderscheid[m]: were you talking to a ghost?
11:08 paulderscheid[m] Haha, no
11:08 paulderscheid[m] He just pointed me to the right koha advent api page ^^
11:09 cait but there is nothing in the logs...
11:09 paulderscheid[m] oh
11:09 paulderscheid[m] That's weird
11:09 cait http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2022-08-08
11:10 cait very spooky
11:10 cait ashimema? can you hear us?
11:11 oleonard It doesn't look to me like he's here
11:12 cait paulderscheid[m]: so the ghost theory still stands
11:12 cait youa re both using elment, aren't you?
11:12 paulderscheid[m] Me too
11:14 paulderscheid[m] I just looked at the logs. If you don't know it looks like I'm insane ^^
11:14 magnuse i could not see ashimema talking in my irc client either
11:15 paulderscheid[m] ashimema: makes a sad face
11:16 paulderscheid[m] Is this some kind of sixth sense situation where only I can see him ^^
11:19 paulderscheid[m] Did you already restart element?
11:19 paulderscheid[m] Strange
11:21 paulderscheid[m] !whois ashimema
11:21 oleonard @seen ashimema
11:21 huginn` oleonard: ashimema was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 55 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <ashimema> They support slightly different options though, some of the newer notices rely on TT feature not available in our custom <<>> replacements wtuff
11:26 paulderscheid[m] I can see you everywhere
11:27 cait ashimema ashimema ashimema (worked for beetlejuice?)
11:38 tcohen hi all FTR I'm about to make some maintenance work on the *git server* to fix some issue we are currently facing
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11:49 cait tcohen: fingers crossed tcohen
12:08 Joubu tcohen: can you record it there? https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/us/92
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13:43 caroline_crazycatlady Is anyone good at cataloging authorities? I'm trying to make have this display, with the broader headings above, and I can't seem to do it https://koha-community.org/man[…]playHierarchy.png
13:46 caroline_crazycatlady I catalogued authorities with broader/narrower headings https://snipboard.io/woW3qR.jpg
13:49 caroline_crazycatlady I put the control number (001, assigned by Koha) of the other authority in 551$0. But as you can see the tree at the top only contains the authority I'm in right now https://snipboard.io/Y9QNpn.jpg
13:53 cait I think here are indicators or a subfield you need to set to
13:53 cait o
13:53 Joubu caroline_crazycatlady: when I need to test this I always read the related commit
13:53 Joubu 83370c519c4291e81a76c02d5142a818f940fa50
13:53 Joubu there is an example at the end
13:54 caroline_crazycatlady thanks! I will check it out
13:55 cait caroline_crazycatlady: as you are here... Bernardo tells me in order to have the 22.05 manual on pootle it needs tohave the 22.05 branch
13:55 cait are there any plans on branching yet?
13:56 Joubu bug 23190
13:56 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=23190 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Authority hierarchy display appears to be broken
13:56 caroline_crazycatlady Not sure, davidnind is DM right now... 22.05 is not well documented yet, so the 22.05 manual would mostly be good for 21.11
13:57 Joubu caroline_crazycatlady: see Marcel's comment, you need to create the authority
13:58 caroline_crazycatlady Ok yes it works
13:59 caroline_crazycatlady I will document it. Authid not in $0, but in $9
13:59 caroline_crazycatlady thanks Joubu !
14:00 cait caroline_crazycatlady: makes sense... so we should wait?
14:00 cait but doesn't it mean the manual links are broken now from inside Koha?
14:01 caroline_crazycatlady I don't know. We have this discussion every cycle, but I don't think we've come to a decision yet
14:01 cait hm it looks like the website balances it by still using hte master branch in the background
14:01 cait https://koha-community.org/manual//22.05/en/html/
14:03 caroline_crazycatlady We don't have the resources to backport every commit to the correct manual branch so new commits are only merged to the master branch
14:07 caroline_crazycatlady therefore the master branch is the most up to date with the current version. If we branch at the same time as Koha, all the changes we make for 22.05 changes will only be in the 22.11 manual basically
14:15 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29983: Fix xt/author/valid-templates.t <https://git.koha-community.org[…]db15dc08b05164064>
14:19 cait caroline_crazycatlady: it's difficult
14:19 cait but as we don't have po files... there are no translated manuals then that are actually translated
14:19 cait they are just copies of the previous with the english changes that are freshly merged
14:20 caroline_crazycatlady true, so do we prefer to have translated but not up-to-date manuals, or up-to-date-ish english manuals?
14:21 caroline_crazycatlady at the same time, the manuals are never 100% up-to-date so... maybe that shouldn't be considered
14:25 huginn` News from kohagit: Revert "Bug 31104: Add a selenium test" <https://git.koha-community.org[…]9b287c2b9845c209e>
14:26 caroline_crazycatlady Honestly, I'll go with whatever is decided... If we decide we branch at the same time as Koha, that's fine but people should know to look for information on new features in the dev branch manual and not their own version
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14:41 tcohen wizzyrea++
14:41 cait caroline_crazycatlady: not sure right now... it
14:41 cait about the manuals - it's difficult overall
14:53 caroline_crazycatlady It is... we are not a big enough team to keep up with the devs, so we are always behind and we can't catch up (we're like the little sibling trying to play with the older sibling and their friends XD)
14:56 cait heh
14:56 cait thanks btw for your recent work caroline_crazycatlady++
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15:27 oleonard Joubu: Besides running tests is there anything else I can to do test Bug 31306?
15:27 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31306 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Add Koha::Items->search_ordered method
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15:48 oleonard I guess I'll go with: If Bug 31308 seems to work, that's probably a good sign.
15:48 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31308 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Remove GetItemsInfo from basket/basket
16:10 oleonard When debug mode is enabled for an SMTP server where do errors get logged?
16:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 31296: (QA follow-up) Fix trivial spelling errors <https://git.koha-community.org[…]336f8dc7f9f8940f0>
16:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 31303: (follow-up) Use get_effective_rule_value instead <https://git.koha-community.org[…]41ef3af7b4244d127>
16:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 31303: Prevent fatal errors when missing "waiting hold cancellation" rule <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d5d053e9c22bcee73>
16:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 31292: Untranslatable string in sample_notices.yaml <https://git.koha-community.org[…]493b299a715eabd68>
16:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 31296: (QA follow-up) Add to debian templates <https://git.koha-community.org[…]5c3c69e3838f491c4>
16:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 31296: Add ability to disable demagnetizing items via SIP2 based on itemtypes <https://git.koha-community.org[…]599a72d55e1ee8005>
16:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 31155: Document --since option in help of borrowers-force-messaging-defaults.pl <https://git.koha-community.org[…]bacc4ade2107b4c7e>
16:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 31305: Remove type= from detail.pl <https://git.koha-community.org[…]21306c0a90c93079d>
16:22 tcohen oleonard: that depends, maybe process_message_queue.pl output
16:22 tcohen or in plack.log?
16:23 oleonard I was able to work around it when testing Bug 31309
16:23 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31309 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Remove GetItemsInfo from basket/sendbasket
16:23 oleonard I thought I had all my GMail info in there correctly.
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16:24 ashimema ooh.. ooh.. am I online now
16:25 oleonard tcohen: Did you just feel a cold chill?
16:25 tcohen yeah, I thought I was the only one
16:25 tcohen i heard there's a ghost on the channel
16:25 tcohen hahaha
16:25 oleonard :D
16:25 tcohen wb ashimema
16:26 ashimema woopie
16:26 ashimema did nothing at this end to fix it.. it just suddenly said it connected
16:27 tcohen what is it? matrix? znc?
16:27 cait he is BACK! confetti!
16:27 ashimema matrix
16:27 tcohen confetti!
16:27 wahanui o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
16:27 tcohen wahanui: you should've been set a regex
16:27 wahanui tcohen: i'm not following you...
16:27 tcohen nm
16:29 cait bye all :)
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16:35 ashimema right.. and now it's time to clock off..
16:35 ashimema see you all tommorrow
16:35 ashimema 🙂
16:35 oleonard I hope ghost hours count on your time card ashimema
16:41 tcohen hahaha
16:51 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 27779: DBRev 22.06.00.033 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]886304a13e0cd7941>
16:51 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 27779: (QA follow-up) Fix database update <https://git.koha-community.org[…]6efd8f888b9a95cd3>
16:51 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 30213: Hide Delete (aka Priority) column when user only has place_hold permission <https://git.koha-community.org[…]af3090d9eb9747a33>
16:51 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 27779: (QA follow-up) Fix translation issue with 'against' <https://git.koha-community.org[…]975fee47f93d96021>
16:51 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 27779: New atomic update syntax <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b78c3cce5b6cf4141>
16:51 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 27779: Update 'REFUND' description in the database <https://git.koha-community.org[…]c587cb948c27a7a52>
16:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 27779: Group payouts by type of debit they're applied against <https://git.koha-community.org[…]e02ed8dca67fe7d29>
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16:54 tcohen Joubu: please check the tests for bug 28787 ASAP
16:54 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28787 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Failed QA , Send a notice with the TOTP token
16:55 * tcohen would like to push it doay
16:55 tcohen today
16:56 tcohen oleonard++ # rocking it as usual
16:56 tcohen rijksmuseum++ # sponsoring cool stuff
16:56 tcohen orex++ # sponsoring cool stuff
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18:20 tuxayo tcohen: hi :) there is a follow-up to fix a typo on bug 30992
18:20 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30992 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to master , Hard to translate single word strings
18:37 tcohen tuxayo: great you are here
18:38 tcohen I wanted you to look at a follow-up I'm about to upload for bug 27779
18:38 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27779 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Cashup summary 'refunds' should denote what the refund was actioned against
18:38 tcohen (if possible)
18:43 tcohen there's no precedent use of __x
18:43 tcohen that's why I ask
18:46 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 30992: (follow-up) Fix semicolon at line ending <https://git.koha-community.org[…]3992eab11d61c384b>
19:09 fridolin tuxayo: yellow there, do you have a minute ?
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19:14 tuxayo tcohen: looking at 27779
19:14 tuxayo fridolin: hi :)
19:14 tuxayo what's up?
19:28 fridolin tuxayo: yey I have a package problem on Ubuntu, not related to Koha
20:01 tuxayo tcohen: finally found some doc about __x
20:01 tuxayo https://metacpan.org/pod/Locale::TextDomain
20:01 tuxayo https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]cgi?id=15395#c131
20:01 huginn` Bug 15395: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, CLOSED FIXED, Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more
20:01 tuxayo so your usage of __x looks 👍️
20:16 tuxayo tcohen: about whether if there are enough format_price or escape_str, it can't say
20:22 tuxayo *I can't say
20:22 tcohen no worries about that
20:22 tcohen they are needed heh
20:23 tuxayo So let's roll with that or still another pair of eyes needed for the things other than __x?
20:24 tcohen some tests are failing with that patchset
20:24 tcohen so I asked ashimema to provide a follow-up
20:24 tcohen once it is submitted, I'll push both

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