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mjkerpan |
something weird happened. |
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mjkerpan |
after running an "apt upgrade" command on my koha server, it forgot how it work and when i try to get into the admin interface, it wants to run the web installer |
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aleisha |
mjkerpan it sounds like your koha has upgraded. if you run through the installer again it will complete the upgrade for you |
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mjkerpan |
but neither my old password nor the one in koha-conf.xml seem to work |
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aleisha |
the username is koha_instance |
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mjkerpan |
thanks. it's all fixed |
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aleisha |
cool :) |
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this stuff used to happen as part of the apckage upgrade process... |
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anyhow, i'll be moving my koha instance to a raspberry pi 4 this week. cutting power usage from 90-100 watts constant to about 2... |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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Joubu |
@later tell rangi Can you have a look at bug 23672 please? |
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Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23986: Pass strings to Catmandu for deletion <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]71a8dc319593a7780> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23788: Recalculate ammount due for selected accountlines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ed5852601f1283ece> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23788: Rename $select_lines to $selected_lines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1e765599aea566d09> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23788: Rename $select to $selected_accts <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e3d3dc5034d08e642> |
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Project Koha_Master_D9 build #998: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/998/ |
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Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #10: FAILURE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Master_D9_My8/10/ |
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oleonard |
HI #koha |
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ashimema |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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oleonard |
Since everyone is so quiet, I shall entertain you with a dialog from my work place: |
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oleonard |
Librarian: Hey Owen I hate it when Koha searching doesn't work the way I want it to |
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oleonard |
Me: Okay, can you give me examples? |
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oleonard |
Me: ... |
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oleonard |
Me: ... |
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oleonard |
Me: ... <dead> |
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oleonard |
And scene. |
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ashimema |
lol |
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andreashm |
*applause* |
| 14:18 |
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ashimema |
sounds pretty normal that. |
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andreashm |
yup |
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* andreashm |
loves when staff report errors after upgrades. "this is new, and wrong." Me: *looks at the server with the previous version* this is the exact same behaviour as before. |
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oleonard |
But actually they did come to me with a valid query: Why would the inclusion of an en dash cause a keyword search to fail |
| 14:27 |
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oleonard |
is the en dash interpreted as a search operator? |
| 14:31 |
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Joubu |
7 result(s) found for 'kw,wrdl: food -'. |
| 14:31 |
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Joubu |
is that what you mean? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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Joubu |
so it looks ok here |
| 14:32 |
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Joubu |
are you using elastic? |
| 14:33 |
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oleonard |
Zebra. The specific query was: 'kw,wrdl: I Am C-3PO – The Inside Story' which returns no results |
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oleonard |
As opposed to 'kw,wrdl: I Am C-3PO The Inside Story' which returns the correct record |
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* Joubu |
passes |
| 14:35 |
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Joubu |
but it seems to work in some cases.. |
| 14:35 |
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Joubu |
6 result(s) found for 'kw,wrdl: food - rome'. |
| 14:35 |
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Joubu |
6 result(s) found for 'kw,wrdl: food rome'. |
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Joubu |
it's ignored for me |
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oleonard |
Joubu: Are you sure you're testing with an en dash and not a hyphen? |
| 14:37 |
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oleonard |
A hyphen is ignored for me |
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Joubu |
no idea what an en dash is, so I guess I am testing with a hyphen :) |
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caroline_catlady |
hello everyone! |
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oleonard |
en dash: — hyphen: - |
| 14:43 |
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oleonard |
Wait, no: em dash: — en dash: – |
| 14:49 |
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eythian |
don't forget the swung dash: â“ |
| 14:49 |
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eythian |
or the two-em for that matter: ⸺ |
| 14:53 |
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oleonard |
~ ˜ ∼ 〜 ～ |
| 14:54 |
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oleonard |
⎯ ⤠─ ➖ ⸺ ⸻ |
| 14:55 |
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oleonard |
Everyone remembers the first time they accidentally used a wave dash 〜 when they should have used a fullwidth tilde ～. So embarassing. |
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caroline_catlady |
oh god, yes, I remember it was april 25 1998, I was in school and the teacher told me in front of the whole class... so embarassing... |
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oleonard |
Anyone know if it's possible to add a facet for language as defined in 008? |
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caroline_catlady |
oleonard: with zebra or es? |
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oleonard |
zebra |
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oleonard |
I guess I'd like to know if it's possible either way. Using zebra now. |
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caroline_catlady |
I think with es you can customize facets much easier |
| 15:08 |
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caroline_catlady |
with zebra, I know it's possible, because my colleague has done it before, but you have to go into zebra configuration files and things |
| 15:09 |
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oleonard |
caroline_catlady: I guess I was assuming Koha's advanced search language limiter uses 008... Do you know if that is correct? |
| 15:09 |
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caroline_catlady |
yes that's what is used |
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caroline_catlady |
I think the index is called ln (LN) |
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oleonard |
'ln,rtrn:spa' is what I see on the search results page |
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oleonard |
Do you know what the "rtrn" means? |
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caroline_catlady |
right truncation |
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caroline_catlady |
in the biblio-koha-indexdefs : |
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caroline_catlady |
<index_control_field tag="008" offset="35" length="3"> |
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caroline_catlady |
<target_index>ln:w</target_index> |
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caroline_catlady |
</index_control_field> |
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oleonard |
Thank you caroline_catlady |
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caroline_catlady |
sorry I can't help more... the knowledge is in the brain of someone else |
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caroline_catlady |
oleonard: would it make more sense to display "Locked" in red rather than green? https://snipboard.io/Gmqegl.jpg |
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oleonard |
I think so |
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caroline_catlady |
should I open a bz for that do you think? |
| 16:55 |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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caroline_catlady |
I put it in "Templates" so it was automatically assigned to you, bug 24012 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24012 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Display 'Locked' budget in red |
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* oleonard |
felt a disturbance in the Force |
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* ashimema |
send subliminal message to remember colour blind users |
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caroline_catlady |
ashimema: what would be the best for colour-blind users? |
| 17:31 |
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oleonard |
Add a "lock" icon? |
| 17:31 |
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caroline_catlady |
I would like an icon even if I'm not colour blind :) |
| 17:33 |
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ashimema |
Great idea. |
| 17:34 |
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ashimema |
Red is good too for the not colour blind.. but I generally like to ask the question when someone adds something colour based to the UI |
| 17:34 |
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ashimema |
Icon in addition to red would be great |
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caroline_catlady |
I added a comment to the bz so we don't forget |
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ashimema |
😀 |
| 18:05 |
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oleonard |
Still without a dev environment here. Still getting this from kohadevbox: https://gitlab.com/snippets/1912170 |
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ashimema |
Looks weirdly network related |
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tcohen |
hi |
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oleonard |
Hi tcohen |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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caroline_catlady |
hi cait! |
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cait |
hi caroline_catlady :) |
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oleonard |
Hi cait, are you back from vacation? |
| 19:16 |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
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cait |
oleonard: nope, 2 more weeks |
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cait |
but got back from my dad's tody |
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tcohen |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
| 19:16 |
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tcohen |
bug 23893 |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
hi tcohen :) |
| 19:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23893 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add ->new_from_api and ->set_from_api methods to Koha::Object |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
sorry, probably not on duty tonight, just unpacked the laptop |
| 19:18 |
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tcohen |
just mentioning it for the broad audience |
| 19:18 |
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tcohen |
:-D |
| 19:24 |
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cait |
how is everyone? |
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oleonard |
Leaving! See y'all later |
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corilynn |
cait, can you help me with your comment on bug 10047? |
| 20:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10047 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cataloguing search maybe useless? |
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corilynn |
specifically "You could add it to advanced search pull downs using jQuery" |
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cait |
ah sorry corilynn - was distracted |
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corilynn |
no worries |
| 21:07 |
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cait |
are yo ustill around? |
| 21:07 |
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corilynn |
I am |
| 21:07 |
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cait |
so does it work for you when you search in keyword search like this: Control-number:xxx |
| 21:07 |
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corilynn |
in the cataloging search? |
| 21:08 |
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cait |
in the advanced search |
| 21:08 |
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corilynn |
hold on |
| 21:08 |
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corilynn |
you mean the left hand search area in the "Advanced Cataloging Editor"? |
| 21:09 |
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cait |
oh |
| 21:09 |
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cait |
i think it might be a misunderstanding |
| 21:09 |
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cait |
> We currently use the cataloging search because the Advanced Search doesn't > support searching by control number. |
| 21:09 |
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cait |
is what you wrote - did you mean Advanced Editor? |
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corilynn |
it doesn't work on the catalog search either |
| 21:10 |
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corilynn |
No results found |
| 21:10 |
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corilynn |
No results match your search for 'Control-number:ghp0000001'. |
| 21:10 |
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corilynn |
wait, i'm on the wrong koha instance. |
| 21:10 |
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cait |
can you give me the url? I think we might be in different spots, just to check |
| 21:10 |
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cait |
wlel the last bit of the url |
| 21:11 |
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corilynn |
ok, that works on this page: /cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=Control-number%3Aghp0000001 |
| 21:12 |
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corilynn |
I wrote a bug for this page: /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbooks.pl |
| 21:12 |
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corilynn |
hold on and I'll find it |
| 21:13 |
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corilynn |
Bug 23941 |
| 21:13 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23941 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Searching by Control Number doesn't return bibs in the "reservoir" |
| 21:14 |
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cait |
hm works for me... for addbooks - but nothing in reservoir int his installation, but I can find the record sin the normal catalog |
| 21:14 |
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cait |
using the Cataloging search |
| 21:14 |
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cait |
i wonder if this is due to some ... tricks... we use |
| 21:14 |
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corilynn |
I can find it in the catalog |
| 21:14 |
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cait |
we have mapped 001 to the biblio(items).ean column |
| 21:14 |
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corilynn |
but not the reservoir |
| 21:14 |
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cait |
ok, so we have the same result then |
| 21:14 |
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cait |
i misunderstood, thought you were talking about advanced search |
| 21:15 |
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cait |
there it would have been easy to solve... the reservoir is an sql based search so probably harder |
| 21:15 |
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corilynn |
right, so in the "Advanced Editor" search it won't search by control number at all |
| 21:15 |
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cait |
yep |
| 21:15 |
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cait |
well not good,... but it makes all sense now |
| 21:16 |
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corilynn |
even though it has a field for it |
| 21:16 |
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cait |
hm not good |
| 21:16 |
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corilynn |
https://paste.pics/4ad87384576[…]be4dba6bd13ba29e1 |
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cait |
probably something to do with the bib 1 attributes used |
| 21:17 |
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corilynn |
well, if it's configurable, i'd love to configure it |
| 21:17 |
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corilynn |
(and, at the top of that page it says "Advanced Search" |
| 21:17 |
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cait |
not at the moment :( |
| 21:17 |
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cait |
yeah, so we have mulitple of those |
| 21:17 |
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cait |
:) |
| 21:17 |
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corilynn |
so here's my point... if it works in search A, can we make it work in B, C, D, E etc? |
| 21:18 |
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corilynn |
the cataloging searches seem like such a hodge-podge |
| 21:18 |
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cait |
hodge-podge? |
| 21:18 |
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corilynn |
"Confused mixture" |
| 21:19 |
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corilynn |
hotchpotch describes a confused or disorderly mass or collection of things; a "mess" or a "jumble" |
| 21:19 |
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cait |
aha! |
| 21:19 |
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cait |
a good word |
| 21:19 |
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corilynn |
one of my favorites |
| 21:21 |
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* andreashm |
waves |
| 21:22 |
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corilynn |
cait, do you know how to do a "left justified" search? |
| 21:22 |
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cait |
do you mean something like *something ? |
| 21:22 |
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corilynn |
One of the catalogers wants to search titles that start with "Apple" not just have apple somewhere in the title |
| 21:23 |
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cait |
i'd always turn of autoquerytruncate to be honest |
| 21:23 |
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cait |
and truncate manually |
| 21:23 |
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cait |
it might work if they do ti,rtrn:Apple |
| 21:24 |
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caroline_catlady |
corilynn: startswithnt : subfield starts with |
| 21:24 |
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cait |
ooh |
| 21:24 |
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corilynn |
wait, what? |
| 21:24 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... wait, is 4XX for subjects? |
| 21:24 |
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cait |
is thatin the manual? |
| 21:24 |
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caroline_catlady |
or ti,first-in-subfield=C (will show you all titles that start with the letter ‘C’) |
| 21:24 |
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caroline_catlady |
https://koha-community.org/man[…]uide-to-searching |
| 21:25 |
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caroline_catlady |
never tried it first hand though |
| 21:25 |
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corilynn |
4xx is for series |
| 21:25 |
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cait |
wahanui is just trying to confuse us :) |
| 21:25 |
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corilynn |
seriously |
| 21:25 |
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cait |
wahanui botsnack cookie |
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wahanui |
thanks cait :) |
| 21:26 |
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cait |
forget wait, what |
| 21:26 |
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wahanui |
wait, is 4XX for subjects? |
| 21:26 |
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cait |
wahanui: forget 'wait, what' |
| 21:26 |
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wahanui |
cait, I didn't have anything matching 'wait, what' |
| 21:26 |
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cait |
hmpf |
| 21:26 |
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caroline_catlady |
just wait maybe? |
| 21:26 |
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corilynn |
oh, wahanui is the bot, I always forget |
| 21:26 |
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corilynn |
Where do I put startswithnt ? |
| 21:27 |
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caroline_catlady |
normally, you put it in the search bar, preceded by the index you want ti search in, so ti,startswithnt:Apple |
| 21:27 |
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caroline_catlady |
wahanui: forget wait |
| 21:27 |
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wahanui |
caroline_catlady: I forgot wait |
| 21:27 |
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caroline_catlady |
wait, what? |
| 21:27 |
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wahanui |
wait, is 4XX for subjects? |
| 21:27 |
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caroline_catlady |
-_- |
| 21:28 |
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corilynn |
that doesn't seem to work, caroline_catlady |
| 21:28 |
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caroline_catlady |
wahanui: forget 4XX |
| 21:28 |
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wahanui |
caroline_catlady: I forgot 4xx |
| 21:28 |
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caroline_catlady |
wait, what? |
| 21:28 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it wait, is 4XX for subjects |
| 21:28 |
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caroline_catlady |
lol... -_- |
| 21:28 |
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corilynn |
I"m here: /cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl |
| 21:28 |
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caroline_catlady |
wahanui: forget wait, |
| 21:28 |
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wahanui |
caroline_catlady: I forgot wait, |
| 21:28 |
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corilynn |
and I put that search string .. where? |
| 21:28 |
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caroline_catlady |
wait, what? |
| 21:29 |
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caroline_catlady |
excellent! |
| 21:29 |
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wahanui |
darn tootin' it is. |
| 21:29 |
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caroline_catlady |
corilynn: in any search bar |
| 21:29 |
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corilynn |
it says "no patron" |
| 21:29 |
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caroline_catlady |
ok, any search bar that searches for records |
| 21:30 |
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corilynn |
not working :( |
| 21:30 |
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corilynn |
ok, i'm here: /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbooks.pl |
| 21:30 |
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corilynn |
I type in "Oracle" |
| 21:31 |
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corilynn |
there's a record with a title "The oracle" |
| 21:32 |
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caroline_catlady |
that makes sense |
| 21:32 |
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corilynn |
I put "ti,startswithnt:Oracle" and no results |
| 21:32 |
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corilynn |
I also tried lower case |
| 21:33 |
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corilynn |
does this work for you? |
| 21:33 |
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corilynn |
do I need to search somewhere else? |
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caroline_catlady |
just a second |
| 21:39 |
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corilynn |
I figured it out, but Booo :( |
| 21:39 |
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corilynn |
I have to put "The oracle" |
| 21:40 |
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corilynn |
nope, nevermind, doesn't work for "Dust" |
| 21:54 |
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corilynn |
this works: ti,first-in-subfield=Cats |
| 21:54 |
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corilynn |
but not if the title is "The Cats" |
| 21:56 |
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caroline_catlady |
just to make sure, what are the indicators in field 245 for !The Cats"? |
| 21:56 |
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caroline_catlady |
Oh, wait |
| 21:56 |
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caroline_catlady |
I think indicators don't work with zebra |
| 21:56 |
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corilynn |
they do not |
| 21:56 |
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corilynn |
:( |
| 21:57 |
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cait |
notquite true |
| 21:57 |
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cait |
they work, bu tonly for sorting |
| 21:57 |
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cait |
if you sort on title |
| 21:58 |
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cait |
and use zebra |
| 21:58 |
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corilynn |
ah, but you can't sort by anything on /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbooks.pl |
| 21:58 |
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corilynn |
so, Hodgepodge :( |
| 21:58 |
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cait |
ah ok, yep |
| 21:58 |
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cait |
catalouging search is... bit behind |
| 21:58 |
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corilynn |
no love for the catalogers |
| 22:01 |
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caroline_catlady |
Personnaly, I always tell my clients not to use cataloguing search, unless they need to merge... |
| 22:01 |
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corilynn |
caroline_catlady, we are a company of catalogers |
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