IRC log for #koha, 2018-03-14

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07:36 reiveune hello
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07:59 nlegrand Hoo haa! Koha!
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08:08 bag morning
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08:10 cait matts: your lessions paid off - just created a po file for organisations :)
08:10 matts cait, yay !
08:11 cait but when i try to go to my coral it points me to the installer again
08:11 cait is this because of the update we ran yesterday?
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08:13 fridolin aloa
08:16 clrh hello al
08:16 clrh l
08:18 jajm hello
08:18 wahanui hey, jajm
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08:22 gaetan_B hello
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08:31 oleonard Hi #koha
08:32 nlegrand $ git bz attach 18213
08:32 nlegrand Bug 20311 - get_age tests can fail on February 28th
08:32 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20311 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , get_age tests can fail on February 28th
08:32 nlegrand hu?
08:33 nlegrand This is strange, isn't?
08:33 nlegrand haaaaaa
08:33 nlegrand my bad
08:33 nlegrand sorry, confused attach and apply ><
08:34 nlegrand shouldn't work today
08:37 pastebot "oleonard" at pasted "LibraryClaire: To use the black icon set in the OPAC header instead of white" (3 lines) at
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08:42 sophie_m Hi #koha
08:42 * andreashm waves
08:44 oleonard gaetan_B: Bug 17486
08:44 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17486 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, Remove 'Mozilla Persona' as an authentication method
08:44 oleonard Has something been left behind?
09:00 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20286: Fix filter for BakerTaylor* prefs <[…]cf54a09c810db5b9c>
09:00 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20286: Correctly escape URI characters in OPAC RSS template <[…]5c08f51ae7ee5fa11>
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09:48 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #396: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/396/
09:48 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20286: Correctly escape URI characters in OPAC RSS template
09:48 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20286: Fix filter for BakerTaylor* prefs
09:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20286 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Subscribing to a search via rss goes to an empty page
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10:04 bag @later tell benjamin  safe travels - it was great to see you
10:04 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
10:51 mirkh Hi, in authorised_values that's connected to additional_fields, is there a way to have an authorised_value that becomes a disabled option in the select list, i.e. -- Choose option -- ?
10:51 bag @later tell marcelr  what where you thinking of with https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=20081#c3  if you’re ok with what kidclamp did - then I’d love to get some QA eyes on it ;)  thanks
10:51 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
10:51 huginn Bug 20081: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Enable uploaded pdfs to be viewed inline
10:53 bag @later tell marcelr - never mind I talked to kidclamp - he knows what to do on that bug.  Sorry!  Anyways!  Hi There - hopefully you come to Portland for KohaCon!
10:53 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
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11:27 andreashm hi #koha
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11:33 sophie_m cait translation is broken ?
11:37 sophie_m it seems ok now, thanks
11:38 sophie_m arf, no....
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12:34 andreashm slow day today?
12:41 tcohen morning
12:43 tcohen sophie_m: what's the symptom?
12:43 mirkh afternoon :)
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13:14 andreashm hey tcohen mirkh
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13:33 mirkh hello andreashm
13:36 cait sophie_m: what's broken? same error again as yesterday?
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13:44 sophie_m cait : no it seems that some pages are failing in timeout
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13:47 cait sophie_m: can you send me a link to try?
13:49 khall @seen joubu
13:49 huginn khall: joubu was last seen in #koha 1 week, 5 days, 18 hours, 52 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <Joubu> that's why we should improve the manual instead
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13:50 khall @seen Joubu
13:50 huginn khall: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 week, 5 days, 18 hours, 54 minutes, and 1 second ago: <Joubu> that's why we should improve the manual instead
13:50 * LeeJ waves
13:50 LeeJ hi #koha
13:51 cait khall: he is on vacation
13:51 cait hi LeeJ
13:52 LeeJ khall: just got your later...that would work well I think
13:52 LeeJ (RE: plugin translations)
13:52 LeeJ Kitchen Sink Plugin++
13:53 LeeJ hiii cait :)
13:53 khall thanks cait ; )
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13:54 khall excellent. Maybe we should do an rfc or something
13:55 tcohen hi LeeJ
13:55 LeeJ cait: I brought it up to Kyle last week, but there will be new progress on plugin translations hopefully :)
13:55 LeeJ hi tcohen..what no #endmeeting? :P
13:56 cait LeeJ: awesome1
13:56 cait i have started working on translations for Coral and it got me thinking
13:56 tcohen LeeJ: was about to say, no meetings today
13:57 cait they have th epo files and pull the strings dynamically from them
13:57 LeeJ cait: oooh! :O
13:57 cait so something similar maybe could work
13:57 cait we would not want to duplicate template files fro the plugins like we do for koha
13:57 tcohen that's what most systems do
13:57 cait coral is php but it's using gettext and does the translation processing server side
13:58 LeeJ cait: did you see the links khall added to Bug 17489? They look promising
13:58 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17489 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, NEW , Allow Koha plugins to have translations
13:58 cait yeah but didn't have time to investigate yet
13:58 LeeJ same ha
13:58 cait oooh the template toolkit plugin might just be what we are looking for
13:58 LeeJ :D
13:58 LeeJ khall++
13:59 cait but that would require rewriting the plugin tt files i guess
13:59 cait from what i see in the example
13:59 cait s
14:00 cait maybe we should start with kitchen sink :)
14:00 tcohen cait: we could be using a .js file for each language
14:00 cait but then you put it on the client
14:00 cait i think server side would be nicer
14:00 cait especialyl for opac plugins
14:00 cait having to rely on js is not so nice
14:01 LeeJ cait: that was khall's idea was to use kitchen sink as the tester
14:01 andreashm cait: are you going forward with coral?
14:01 cait khall++ LeeJ++
14:01 cait andreashm: we are still testing, but finding out if we could translate is part of it :)
14:01 tcohen cait: why is that?
14:01 tcohen content is cached and zipped
14:01 andreashm cait: oh alright
14:01 cait tcohen: you need javascript :)
14:02 cait tcohen: w ehave taken care to have the opac work without in the past
14:02 cait it also might lead to the english strings appearing for a moment before they are replaced on slow systems?
14:03 LeeJ cait: on a side note I saw this comic the other day and thought you would get a laugh out of it :)
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14:03 mtompset Greetings, #koha
14:03 * LeeJ waves to mtompset
14:03 mtompset Greetings, LeeJ
14:04 mtompset @seen jamj
14:04 huginn mtompset: I have not seen jamj.
14:04 tcohen if we start using react, we could process strings server-side
14:05 tcohen @seen jajm
14:05 huginn tcohen: jajm was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 47 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <jajm> hello
14:05 mtompset DOH! Typo. Thanks, tcohen
14:05 LeeJ cait tcohen both make me realize how much more learning I have to do lol
14:06 mtompset tcohen, to totally join the conversation clueless, doesn't react have a licensing issue with GPL3?
14:06 tcohen LeeJ: we will keep the current workflow/tool set until we find something better
14:06 cait heh
14:06 cait brb - being called away
14:07 tcohen mtompset: nope, not anymore
14:07 LeeJ mtompset I sent this just before you logged in but since you know my sense of humor I think you'd appreciate this
14:07 mtompset not anymore?
14:08 tcohen mtompset: https://medium.freecodecamp.or[…]-5878478913b2****
14:08 tcohen https://medium.freecodecamp.or[…]-why-5878478913b2
14:08 tcohen remove the asterisks
14:09 mtompset Ah, okay... Changed to MIT... okay, that makes things easier.
14:10 mtompset Booo, LeeJ. I'm not really a punny guy. That is just a horrible one.
14:10 LeeJ :(
14:10 mtompset It's a good pun, but so bad.
14:11 LeeJ I cracked up laughing when I saw it..hadn't expected the last panel
14:12 mtompset The angry sheep makes it funnier, but still.
14:13 oleonard Hi LeeJ, mtompset, tcohen
14:13 oleonard Bug 20401
14:13 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , "Item circulation alerts" is overkill and might be removed
14:13 mtompset Greetings, oleonard!
14:13 LeeJ hi oleonard
14:13 wahanui hi olé onard
14:14 oleonard Anyone know of libraries using that feature? ^^
14:14 LeeJ oleonard: O.o
14:14 * LeeJ investigates
14:15 tcohen I know libraries using that. They phased out of printing checkout receipts using the tool
14:15 LeeJ oleonard: well that's embarassing...never knew that was a thing xD
14:15 oleonard tcohen: Could you add a comment to the bug?
14:16 LeeJ oleonard: my library phased out print receipts unless the patron asks for one...they get their receipt via email as of August for us
14:21 tcohen oleonard: done
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14:30 mtompset @later tell jajm :( I can't seem to get testing working. Please use kohadevbox URLs without host file tweaks required.
14:30 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
14:31 jajm mtompset, what are you trying to test ?
14:31 mtompset bug 20402
14:31 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Implement OAuth2 authentication for REST API
14:31 mtompset Have git bz'd
14:32 mtompset have restarted
14:32 mtompset don't understand what is supposed to go in $CLIENT stuff.
14:32 mtompset so I just used a string.
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14:32 jajm mtompset, yes just a string, it's like username/password
14:33 mtompset And the URL... I can't seem to get it to work with localhost:8080/api/v1....
14:33 mtompset rester is telling me 500's.
14:33 jajm mtompset, do you have something in logs ?
14:34 mtompset Net/OAuth2/AuthorizationServ​er/ in @INC
14:34 mtompset DOH!
14:34 jajm ah... i forgot to add that in
14:34 jajm and in the test plan :)
14:36 tcohen jajm: client id and credential pairs should be per-patron I think
14:37 tcohen you would like to give Coral some permissions, VuFind others, etc
14:38 tcohen jajm: AWESOME work by the way :-D
14:39 jajm tcohen, i think that can be achieved with oauth scopes
14:40 tcohen jajm: I agree, and seems like the way to do it. But I still think we need multiple client credentials
14:41 jajm tcohen, that's possible, just add multiple <client_api>s
14:41 tcohen not just one on the koha-cofn.xml file
14:41 tcohen I might be mis-understanding it, thouhg
14:42 jajm tcohen, of course there's a lot of things to discuss, $KOHA_CONF might not be the better place for this, but it was the simplest ;)
14:42 tcohen yes, but we hate editing koha-conf.xml, we prefer a client-friendly form (?)
14:42 tcohen yes yes
14:42 nlegrand I think koha should handle IFLA vouchers.
14:42 nlegrand hu
14:42 nlegrand sorry no.
14:42 tcohen what introduced some noise to my brain
14:43 tcohen is how to generate the credentials, and not give the consumer more permissions than it should
14:44 tcohen if you are granting an external source management access for (say) acquisitions
14:44 tcohen it is not enough to tell it can add orders
14:44 tcohen (that decrease a budget)
14:44 tcohen you need to constrain it to some library/branch
14:45 mtompset jajm, I had to do some building in order to get those libraries.
14:45 mtompset sudo apt-get install libtest-most-perl
14:45 mtompset cpan2deb Mojo::JWT
14:45 mtompset cpan2deb Crypt::PRNG
14:45 mtompset cpan2deb Net::OAuth2::AuthorizationServer
14:45 tcohen so the question is how we give access to external sources without going too far
14:45 tcohen i.e. how permissions+sysprefs tie with scopes
14:46 tcohen it is just something to think about
14:46 tcohen we can always start with something and improve
14:46 tcohen mtompset: they are in jessie
14:46 jajm mtompset, i had to do it too for Mojo::JWT and Net::OAuth2::AuthorizationServer, but not Crypt::PRNG (i had to do it for CryptX though)
14:46 mtompset I couldn't find them easily.
14:47 mtompset if it isn't a foo::bar -> libfoo-bar-perl... it's not an easy find.
14:47 tcohen ah, I'm confusing with Net::Oauth
14:47 mtompset tcohen, don't worry... I had that confusion during trying to figure this out. :)
14:50 jajm tcohen, yes the permissions/scopes thing will require some thinking
14:51 jajm we could tie an api client with a koha user so the client has the same permissions as the user
14:52 tcohen that's why I fancied your first approach some time ago, of adding per-user multiple key/secrets
14:55 eythian mtompset: use apt-file to help file modules, so you can search for Mojo/
14:55 eythian *help find
14:55 mtompset eythian, my brain under pressure forgot that. :)
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15:16 talljoy @later tell tcohen please ping me when you can
15:16 huginn talljoy: The operation succeeded.
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15:21 tcohen I have networking issues with irc
15:22 tcohen talljoy: here I am, my matrix client disconnects not sure why
15:56 reiveune bye
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15:59 matts SoniaB, fetch = +refs/pull/*/head:refs/remotes/origin/pull/*
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16:53 mtompset tcohen, Are you sure the networking issues are just you? I see a nasty block of "has left"
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16:58 tcohen mtompset: matrix keeps the connections open, the client on my computer told me it couldn't contact the matrix server
16:58 tcohen there can be (yet) another issue at the smae time he
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20:54 roch Where can I find the Koha modules related to serials? and are mostly empty
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21:35 tcohen roch: look at the C4 folder
21:35 tcohen
21:36 tcohen sorry, C4/
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22:31 wizzyrea mtj about?
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23:08 mtj hey wizzyrea, about now...
23:08 wizzyrea oh good!
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23:23 corna it is possible to remove the password option and log in only with user in koha, thanks
23:23 corna it is possible to remove the password option and log in only with user in koha, thanks
23:25 wizzyrea Corna: it is not
23:25 wizzyrea And I can't see a patch enabling that being accepted.

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