IRC log for #koha, 2016-03-14

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00:22 cait @later add Joubu could you take another look at 15434? Follow-up attached and signed off by srdjan
00:22 huginn cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
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07:05 jajm hi #koha
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07:13 * magnuse waves
07:21 * magnuse wonders if anyone knows Tor and onion well enough to sign off bug 15540
07:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15540 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Debian package option to set up an .onion address (Tor hidden service) for the OPAC
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07:39 reiveune hello
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07:58 alex_a bonjour
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08:14 marcelr hi #koha
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09:13 vera hello everyone
09:14 vera i was trying to import patron and got the error "Gateway Time-out: the gateway did not receive a timely response from the upstream server or application"
09:15 vera what could be the problem please!
09:18 vera it is a standalone system which is yet to be connected
09:21 vera can someone help please!
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10:43 * cait waves
10:45 nlegrand o/
10:47 cait hi nlegrand
10:47 cait :)
10:48 jajm hi cait
10:48 cait hi jajm - busy morning? :)
10:48 cait did you see my later about the sandboxes?
10:49 jajm cait, i looked at the sandboxes, and fixed a problem with the "signoff feature" (script was trying to access bugzilla with http instead of https) but didn't see any problems with mail, could you test again ?
10:50 jajm cait, yes quite busy :)
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10:51 cait1 unstable internet on the train - will try later! thx for taking a look!
10:57 cait1 would it help you to know which box it was and which e-mail address?
10:58 cait1 Iwas wondering - we were trying to use the small marc21 database for data - seemed a lot of updates were needed to bring it up to master. could this cause a problem?
11:10 jajm cait1, it would certainly help ;)
11:10 cait1 hm?
11:10 cait1 sorry, might have missed some messages
11:10 jajm cait1, responding to 11:57 <cait1> would it help you to know which box it was and which e-mail address?
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11:17 DD Hi DD here
11:17 DD need help on mysql for some reports on holds
11:26 janPasi__ kivilahtio: hmm, mitenkä noita redminen "activity" tiloja ois ajatus käyttää?
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11:32 janPasi__ sorry wrong channel :D
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11:42 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:14 francharb Good morning #koha
12:15 DD hi all
12:15 DD we are looking for help on reports for hold
12:15 DD anyone who can ?
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12:20 magnuse ooh, pi day
12:26 oleonard DD ask your question and you may find out who can help
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12:35 tcohen morrrrrrning
12:35 DD we want report on holds limited by branch / location and period. Also full list of titles reserved, with patron details
12:39 oleonard DD: In what way do the existing holds reports not satisfy your requirements?
12:39 magnuse gah, encodings!
12:45 DD @oleonard: current report shows count of holds per branch . i want a list period branch & locationwise with title and patron details
12:45 huginn DD: I suck
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12:47 oleonard DD have you looked at Circulation -> Holds queue and Circulation -> Holds awaiting pickup?
12:51 DD checking ... thanks..
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14:04 magnuse anyone else having their emails sent from koha rejected by hotmail and/or gmail?
14:07 ashimema we used to..
14:07 ashimema but then we improved our email server ;)
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14:11 magnuse ashimema: any tips?
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14:15 paul_p bag = hello brendan.
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14:21 ashimema gmail has got very strict regarding spam
14:21 ashimema one tic.. i'll dig out the doc I wrote
14:23 EricGAC still having issues with koha-run-backups with a specific directory not placing backups in that directory
14:24 ashimema magnuse.. see braindump in pm
14:25 EricGAC the backups are running fine and going into /var/spool/koha/gaclibrary/ and are keeping the last 5 days worth but it is not at all putting them into a google drive folder where it can be backed up off site
14:25 magnuse ashimema++
14:31 oleonard magnuse & ashimema: Worth putting on the wiki?
14:32 ashimema I don't have the time to sanitize my braindump right now.. but magnuse is welcome to share it once he's made sense of it ;)
14:33 ashimema it's not really koha specific.. more a general email server administrators list of stuff they should do to get through modern spam filter
14:37 * oleonard has to sanitize what comes out of his brain all the time
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15:36 druthb Any Spanish speakers handy for a quick translation (non-Koha stuff)?
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15:37 * druthb waves to pianohacker
15:37 pianohacker hi druthb :)
15:46 oleonard Hi druthb and pianohacker
15:47 oleonard pianohacker: I don't know the answer to your favicon question unfortunately.
15:48 pianohacker oleonard: it's one of those small but completely baffling things...
15:51 oleonard ...and infuriating because the path to the correct icon is *right there* in the source.
15:53 pianohacker yup :/
15:55 Joubu Are you talking about the adv editor?
15:55 pianohacker Joubu: yeah
15:55 Joubu pianohacker: bug 15510
15:56 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15510 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED INVALID, New professional cataloguing editor shows OPAC favicon
15:56 Joubu I have closed it, it's invalid
15:56 Joubu if you try with a new browser session, the favicon is correct
15:56 Joubu it is a cache issue
15:56 Joubu usually when there is favicon cache issue, you can open the img url to flush the cache
15:57 Joubu then the favicon will be correctly displayed
15:57 Joubu but it did not work
15:57 pianohacker which the hell cache, though? I cleared every one I could find :/
15:57 Joubu however, I have tried with another browser and the favicon was ok
15:58 Joubu the big cache, you have to flush /
15:58 Joubu (:D)
15:58 pianohacker oh, right, of course :)
16:01 oleonard I don't find that clearing the cache solves the problem in Firefox.
16:02 Joubu oleonard: no, what I said, it does not. But with another browser it does
16:03 pianohacker Joubu: I wonder if this is a firefox vs chrome issue
16:03 pianohacker fresh firefox has the same problem
16:03 Joubu basically it will only occurs to people who has tested the patch when the favicon was wrong
16:03 Joubu pianohacker: ha!
16:03 Joubu weird!
16:05 Joubu pianohacker: I have the expected favicon using the new private window (iceweasel)
16:07 pianohacker what on earth?
16:07 * oleonard doesn't
16:07 pianohacker The thing that kills me is that I don't see how the favicon was wrong to begin with
16:07 Joubu using the no private window too actually
16:07 pianohacker has always been pretty bog-standard
16:08 Joubu try to access the favicon, then clear cache, restart the browser
16:08 Joubu access the favicon: /intranet-tmpl/prog/img/favicon.ico
16:09 oleonard If it were just a problem with a cached favicon, why wouldn't it show up on every staff client page?
16:11 Joubu good question :)
16:11 Joubu oleonard: I can just tell you that I had the wrong favicon last week, I have accessed the favicon, clear cache then restart and now the favicon is ok
16:12 oleonard Firefox, new private window, opening Rancor in ByWater's demo for the first time ever: Wrong icon.
16:12 bag hello
16:13 oleonard pianohacker: Only in Firefox, or have you seen it in Chrome?
16:14 Joubu[…]ng/
16:14 Joubu I have the wrong one there!
16:15 Joubu I am using plack
16:15 Joubu the sandboxes are not
16:18 Joubu lol
16:18 Joubu It does not work if I am not using Plack
16:18 Joubu same code/same install/same browser
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16:23 paul_p !seen bag
16:23 paul_p @seen bag
16:23 huginn paul_p: bag was last seen in #koha 10 minutes and 39 seconds ago: <bag> hello
16:23 bag hi paul_p
16:23 paul_p hi bag ;-)
16:23 bag I am in Roma paul_p
16:25 pianohacker Joubu/oleonard: at this point, I'm starting to wonder if a fresh browser just picks one randomly and caches that deep somewhere
16:25 oleonard pianohacker: I did find something that says Firefox's favicon cache isn't cleared with the regular cache.
16:26 oleonard pianohacker: But that doesn't explain where it gets the wrong one in the first place.
16:26 oleonard ...unless the favicon cache is too dumb to understand subdomains?
16:26 oleonard But again, why just that page.
16:27 Joubu oleonard, pianohacker: could you confirm that the problem is gone using plack?
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16:36 oleonard pianohacker: I'm working on Bug 16027 and wondering how to trigger an error that shows the markup on line 573 of marc-editor.js
16:36 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16027 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Use Font Awesome icons in the professional cataloging interface
16:37 pianohacker Joubu: ... I get no favicon at all in rancor in plack in a completely fresh firefox :/
16:37 pianohacker oleonard: looking
16:37 oleonard Thanks
16:42 pianohacker oleonard: I think the fastest way to do that is by trying to save a record with a missing mandatory tag
16:42 pianohacker (so in the default frameworks, remove the 245 that's filled in for you on a new record)
16:42 oleonard Perfect.
16:42 wahanui rumour has it perfect is embodied in the concrete source code of the absurdist programming movement
16:59 pianohacker @later tell rangi could I be added to the security list in BZ?
16:59 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
17:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15111: Do not include the antiClickjack legacy browser trick for greybox <[…]14bce22e8b4dab1fe> / Bug 15111: Change X-Frame-Options with SAMEORIGIN <[…]6176b15e2d4dbd4df> / Bug 15111 - Koha is vulnerable to Cross-Frame Scripting (XFS) attacks <http://git.
17:03 magnuse oleonard: i'll see if i can make enough sense of the email thing to put it on the wiki, yes
17:06 oleonard thanks magnuse. larryb at ByWater helped my library with GMail issues. He may have something to contribute.
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17:14 Joubu khall: Koha/ fails perlcritic because of the explicit return of undef
17:14 Joubu (caused by the follow-up of bug 15656)
17:14 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15656 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move the guarantor/guarantees code to Koha::Patron
17:15 reiveune bye
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17:16 khall Joubu: I'll look into that. I thought perlcritic didn't like returns with no value, guess it's been a while ; )
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17:33 Joubu oleonard: on bug 16046 you have removed the "clear-field" class, but not on bug 16045, is it intended?
17:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16046 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Use Font Awesome icons on patron edit pages
17:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16045 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use Font Awesome icons in OAI sets administration
17:36 oleonard Joubu: In the OAI template "clear-field" is used as a hook for JavaScript, so I left it in.
17:37 Joubu oleonard: indeed. Should not we remove the css rule?
17:38 oleonard Joubu: I'm preparing a separate patch to remove unused images and associated CSS.
17:38 Joubu oleonard: ok great, thanks!
17:41 Joubu oleonard: (on the way) on modborrower, the delete link is at the right of 'new', on memberentry it's the contrary
17:42 Joubu well, on memberentry it's "clear", not delete
17:43 tcohen hi Joubu
17:43 Joubu hi tcohen
17:43 tcohen good job
17:46 Joubu tcohen: yes, it's promising :)
17:51 tcohen Joubu: isn't 15263 signed?
17:52 Joubu no
17:52 tcohen you count it as co-authored?
17:52 Joubu tcohen: I have not signed if off yet, but feel free :)
17:52 Joubu I think I can add my SO on the first patch
17:52 Joubu and change the status
17:52 wahanui Joubu: that doesn't look right
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17:53 Joubu outch the bot has exploded :D
17:53 Joubu and change the status
17:53 wahanui Joubu: that doesn't look right
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17:53 Joubu :)
17:54 Joubu tcohen: I'd like to get a "proper" signoff
17:54 tcohen fair enough
17:54 Joubu and... there is no test plan
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18:29 oleonard git, stop blaming me!
18:37 oleonard tcohen: We hard-code url paths all over the place
18:38 tcohen oleonard: I know!
18:39 oleonard What is the preferred method?
18:40 Joubu found bug 16073, patch is coming
18:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16073 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Circulation is completely broken
18:55 oleonard Bye #koha
19:02 eythian @later tell rangi[…]ardbeg-ba/162034/
19:02 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
19:11 rangi is that 98 out of 100?
19:11 tcohen vagrant destroy
19:12 tcohen why is this window herE?
19:12 tcohen :-P
19:12 tcohen later #koha
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19:24 eythian rangi: I think so. It's bloody tasty.
19:25 eythian I'd bring it to whisky o'clock if I could.
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19:27 rangi ill have to try to find some
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19:41 eythian I don't think it's a big brewery. But I also messaged David from Hashigo so maybe he can pull strings.
19:42 rangi excellent :)
19:43 liw eythian is the whisky o'clock international scout
19:44 rangi heh
19:44 eythian Roving reporter^drinker
19:44 eythian *^w
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19:49 eythian rangi: there's a chance it's in bottles. I'll see if I can grab one or two.
19:49 eythian It might only be keg however.
19:50 rangi ohh cool, i *think* i'll be getting the ok to go to berlin/kohacon in the next few days
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19:58 eythian Sweet. I haven't asked yet, but I'm hoping to make it to Greece.
20:00 eythian Maybe Berlin. I need to plan.
20:00 pianohacker has anybody used the cataloging merge tool to merge multiple records?
20:00 pianohacker (multiple = more than 2)
20:00 pianohacker because it looks like it has a weird bug
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20:28 wizzyrea hi
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20:42 cait bag?
20:42 wahanui I LIKE BASEBALL!
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21:00 EricGAC Is there anything special I need to do when specifying a specific output for the backup cron job?
21:03 wizzyrea based on your question it sounds like it's not doing what you expect?
21:03 EricGAC It continues to dump it in var instead of where I want it to
21:03 wizzyrea how are you specifying the location
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21:05 EricGAC koha-run-backups --days 5 --output /home/librarian/Google Drive/DatabaseBackup/
21:05 wizzyrea the default job looks like koha-run-backups --days 2 --output /var/spool/koha in /etc/cron.daily/koha-common
21:05 EricGAC That is the exact line from the /etc/cron.daily/koha-common file
21:05 wizzyrea you are running that by hand?
21:05 EricGAC No
21:05 EricGAC I did run it by hand
21:05 EricGAC when it was created
21:06 wizzyrea does it give you errors?
21:07 wizzyrea when I do that, unless I have created the  /home/librarian/Google Drive/DatabaseBackup/instance directory
21:07 wizzyrea it pops an error.
21:07 wizzyrea (my path is different of course)
21:07 EricGAC ls cannot access the directory when I run it again and I changed the directory for the 5th time in under 5 minutes
21:08 wizzyrea so create the directory it wants
21:08 wizzyrea and see if it works
21:08 EricGAC I did and it took it but it did this before and it gladly ignored it
21:09 EricGAC the /etc/cron.daily/koha-common never got edited when i issued the command again
21:11 EricGAC The new line is now: koha-run-backups --days 5 --output /home/librarian/GoogleDrive/DatabaseBackup
21:12 wizzyrea so it is or isn't working?
21:13 EricGAC It takes it but I wont know until tomorrow
21:14 wizzyrea run the cron command by hand, and if it works, it should work tomorrow
21:17 EricGAC It is just modifying the old backup in /var/spool/koha
21:22 EricGAC Closing time got to work in this later
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21:26 * andreashm waves
21:27 * cait waves back
21:29 andreashm greeting from Switzerland
21:29 rangi you are almost at caits house !
21:30 cait oh wow
21:30 cait all moved now?
21:30 cait rangi: well, he sure is closer than you are - but still a fair bit away :)
21:31 andreashm cait: yup, sitting in an apartment in Sion at the moment
21:31 cait wow :)
21:31 cait how do you like it so far?
21:31 andreashm does bug 15534 work or anyone else? or is it just my messing with my devbox?
21:32 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15534 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add the ability to prevent a patron from placing a hold on a record with available items
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21:32 rangi hmm i havent tested that one
21:32 cait does the patch not apply, or is the problem later?
21:32 andreashm cait: really nice. having some issues with the language... but enjoying the weather and food
21:33 andreashm cait: later, maybe related to
21:33 andreashm I get an error page trying to log in to localhost
21:34 cait ah can you share?
21:38 andreashm cait: sure
21:42 eythian Hi
21:42 wahanui salut, eythian
21:43 Francesca hi
21:58 pastebot "andreashm" at pasted "bug 15534 error" (17 lines) at
21:58 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15534 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add the ability to prevent a patron from placing a hold on a record with available items
21:58 andreashm took a while, but there it is
21:59 andreashm had to try something first
21:59 andreashm (didn't work)
21:59 andreashm any ideas?
21:59 wahanui any ideas are welcome :)
22:01 cait hm let me try
22:02 cait that could be a conflict with a change since i think
22:02 cait i will try to make a branch, one sec
22:02 andreashm thanks
22:02 cait thankful for good internet at the hotel :)
22:03 andreashm that's always a bliss!
22:04 cait i get exactly the same
22:04 cait i think we will need kyle to ifx
22:05 cait i have commented
22:06 andreashm thanks cait
22:06 andreashm cait++
22:07 cait so it's not you...:)
22:07 andreashm good
22:09 andreashm because usually it is. =)
22:12 andreashm night #koha
22:13 cait night andreashm!
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