IRC log for #koha, 2016-01-19

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00:07 wizzyrea rangi: yes, definitely would be good to figure out why that happens. pretty annoying/baffling
00:34 rangi[…]y#Bugs_to_work_on
00:36 aleisha chris: what do you think about bug 15434 and bug 7497 to work on?
00:36 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15434 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Patch doesn't apply , Make search results breadcrumbs human readable
00:36 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7497 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , "kw,wrdl" and variants should be replaced by something more explicit in search history
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00:45 dcook This is random but does anyone have a good way of comparing hexadecimal numbers in Perl?
00:45 dcook String equality doesn't seem like a great idea since 0F10 and F10 are the same number but not when stringified..
00:45 rangi gandalf:
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00:52 dcook I guess it's not really a hexadecimal value... it's actually a string representation..
01:09 bree
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01:24 rangi gandalf:[…]_bug.cgi?id=12028
01:24 huginn` Bug 12028: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Add cardnumber on update patron records page
01:32 rangi anyone about? has anyone ever seen this screen?
01:33 rangi[…]ment.cgi?id=26768
01:33 rangi i feel like this a local customisation
01:36 dcook Hmm?
01:36 dcook Huh...
01:36 dcook rangi: Nope, can't say I've ever seen that before
01:36 dcook Koha Cegeps... is that a screen from inlibro?
01:37 rangi ahhh nope its the page you see if borrowers have updated their info on the opac
01:37 rangi took a while to find it ;)
01:39 dcook Ah, neato
01:42 jcamins Darn, too late. I was going to tell you it was for when borrowers updated their profile.
01:49 rangi thanks jcamins :)
01:49 rangi good to get confirmation
01:49 rangi turns out the bug is already fixed
01:50 rangi[…]_bug.cgi?id=12028
01:51 huginn` Bug 12028: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED FIXED, Add cardnumber on update patron records page
01:51 rangi[…]ment.cgi?id=46840
01:51 rangi always a bit of a let down when you find it's already fixed
01:51 dcook ^
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02:53 rangi
02:56 dcook @wunder syd
02:56 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 30.0°C (1:30 PM AEDT on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
02:56 dcook It can't really be 30 out there..
02:57 rangi
02:59 dcook Oh my
02:59 dcook Hmm, I wonder if that includes any of our libraries
02:59 dcook Could probably add another 70 icons to Australia
02:59 dcook Oh, it does include one..
03:42 wizzyrea fun fact, according to openhub january 2002 was the only month in all of koha history where there were 0 commits.
03:50 dcook That is a fun fact
03:50 dcook Emphasis on IS
03:50 dcook I wasn't being sarcastic...
03:51 wizzyrea hehe
03:51 wizzyrea how long to baby day?
03:52 dcook Mmm not too long
03:52 * dcook calculates
03:52 dcook 7 weeks?
03:53 wizzyrea EEP
03:53 wizzyrea SO EXCITING.
03:53 dcook hehe
03:53 dcook Yeah, I'm pretty excited :)
03:54 dcook Work is a bit too stressful at the moment, but other than that, things are good
03:54 dcook Mostly good
03:54 wizzyrea sweet
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04:43 dcook Found a solution for bug 15541 but now how to write a coherent test plan..
04:43 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15541 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, NEW , Prevent normalization during matching/import process
04:43 * dcook waves to Francesca
04:43 * Francesca waves at dcook
04:44 Francesca just had my first day at work
04:44 dcook Oh?
04:44 dcook How was it? :)
04:44 Francesca good :) I know quite a few people already so it was mainly just getting my pc set up
04:45 Francesca before my mentor/buddy takes me around to meet other people at the company
04:45 dcook Ah, Catalyst have hired you on?
04:45 Francesca yip
04:45 Francesca part-time with the koha team
04:45 dcook Nice!
04:45 Francesca I'm super excited
04:45 dcook Good to have you on board :)
04:45 Francesca thanks :)
04:47 Francesca how are things over in aus?
04:47 dcook Super duper busy :/
04:47 dcook Which has its ups and downs I guess, haha
04:47 dcook Rather be busy than bored
04:47 dcook But I could sure use some part-time help!
04:48 dcook Actually, I'd love more full-time help as well
04:48 dcook But yeah, other than that... baby due in about 7 weeks, so stoked to be a dad
04:48 Francesca hahaha well I can't move to aus to help
04:48 Francesca oh cool exciting!
04:48 dcook Yeah, I'm pretty excited :)
04:48 Francesca actually my mum just got back from sydney - she was on holiday there
04:48 dcook So trying to get things wrapped up before I take off a bunch of time to be at home with bub
04:48 dcook Yeah? How'd she like it?
04:48 dcook The weather has been all over the place
04:49 Francesca she said it was hot
04:50 Francesca didnt say anything about crazy weather but we're used to crazy weather in wlg
04:50 Francesca her flight got cancelled due to fog
04:50 Francesca then the day they landed we had fog, heavy downpours and thunderstorms!
04:51 dcook Yikes!
04:52 Francesca yeah didnt really feel like summmer
04:53 dcook Yeah, some days I have blankets and other days I can't handle a sheet
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04:53 rangi its hot, but muggy
04:53 dcook Last night started out cool then super hot around 1am... then cool again int he morning
04:54 dcook Ugh, muggy
04:54 Francesca muggy isn't nice
04:55 rangi[…]yst_Academy#Day_1  <-- not a bad first days effort
04:55 Amit_Gupta hi rangi
04:55 Amit_Gupta hi all
04:55 Amit_Gupta liz around?
04:55 rangi 13 patches
04:56 Francesca thats great!
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05:03 dcook I keep thinking the Record Matching Rules must have either been different in the past or were envisioned differently...
05:22 dcook Hmm, I've been meaning to test some of the item matching stuff... no time like the present..
05:33 dcook Ok, so even when you're using the phrase register, yaz-client will still show the "w" register when using zebra::snippet... but it IS actually using the "p" register
05:33 dcook That's good..
05:34 dcook Ah, the 952 fields aren't usable for record matching.. makes sense
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07:07 eythian @wunder ams
07:07 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is -4.0°C (7:52 AM CET on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
07:08 rangi @wunder nzwn
07:08 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
07:09 rangi it seems to be constantly 19 here
07:09 onre we're probably at -19 here in pirkanmaa, finland
07:11 rangi @wunder pirkanmaa, finland
07:11 huginn` rangi: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
07:11 rangi worth a try ;)
07:13 onre @wunder pirkkala
07:13 huginn` onre: The current temperature in Tampere, Finland is -16.0°C (8:50 AM EET on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -18.0°C. Windchill: -20.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
07:14 onre that's the airport, they have a weather station
07:15 rangi ahh right
07:16 onre i'm trying to figure out if there are any open z39.50 sources for finnish publications
07:16 rangi hmmm i dont think olli is on line, he might know
07:18 onre randomly sampling my bookshelf it seems like i'm basically covered what comes to non-finnish publications using the open services found on the koha wiki
07:23 cait @wunder konstanz
07:23 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is -6.0°C (7:50 AM CET on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
07:24 liw @wunder vuosaari, finland
07:24 huginn` liw: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
07:24 liw @wunder helsinki, finland
07:24 huginn` liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is -13.0°C (9:20 AM EET on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -19.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
07:30 rangi onre: library of congress has pretty decent coverage
07:30 rangi liw: hope you are feeling better today
07:30 liw rangi, a little bit better, thank you
07:30 onre rangi, thanks, nice
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07:33 * cait waves
07:33 cait bbiab
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07:42 reiveune hello
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08:01 alex_a bonjour
08:01 wahanui bidet, alex_a
08:01 rangi hi drojf alex_a matts and reiveune
08:01 matts hi !
08:01 alex_a hello rangi
08:01 reiveune hi rangi
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08:09 drojf morning #koha
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08:16 cait back
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08:18 gaetan_B hello
08:18 cait hi gaetan_B :)
08:20 Joubu hi #koha
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09:06 * cait waves
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09:10 ashimema good morning #koha
09:11 LibraryClaire morning #koha
09:11 LibraryClaire hey ashimema
09:11 wahanui ashimema is on qa now .)
09:14 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
09:14 huginn` LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London Borough of Newham, Upton Park, London, United Kingdom is -2.2°C (9:13 AM GMT on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
09:14 cait morning ashimema :)
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09:31 * andreashm waves
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09:39 * Francesca has a job!
09:40 * Francesca should also be sleeping but is too excited about said job
09:42 LibraryClaire congrats! :)
09:42 Francesca thanks :)
09:45 cait congrats!
09:45 cait What's your job about? :)
09:46 Francesca I am a junior developer with koha (suprise)
09:46 Francesca basically everythings offical now
09:47 drojf awesome. best project to work at :D
09:47 Francesca same as before but I'm no longer a volunteer
09:47 Francesca drojf: I agree
09:47 cait :)
09:47 cait very cool :)
09:47 cait but aren't you still studying too?
09:47 Francesca yup its part-time
09:47 Francesca uni is full time study
09:47 cait congratulations again :)
09:48 Francesca thanks :)
09:52 LibraryClaire awesome :)
09:56 andreashm ok community, a question for you. I've always thought that someone sponsoring a patch should not sign off on it, but have now been told otherwise by members of the community. (that only persons from the same company/institution should sign off) thoughts on this?
09:57 LibraryClaire I was going to ask the same question
09:57 cait hm i think the second part i'd disagree with
09:58 cait if a patch is submitted - someone from outside the company/instutiion signing off is totally fine by me :)
09:58 cait strictly speaking it's allowed
09:58 cait but i think it's usually nicer if you get an independent tester too
09:58 andreashm ah, I wrote that wrong... I meant that perons from the same company/inst should NOT sign off
09:58 andreashm but ok with sponsored patches?
09:59 cait it's kind of a grey area, but it's possible
09:59 andreashm that will make our lives easier if we can sign-off on the things we sponsor... since we test them anyway.
09:59 drojf its grey? i thought its no
09:59 andreashm drojf: that what I thought too. But heard otherwise from a few ppl by now.
10:00 andreashm that's
10:00 cait let me see if i can find some docs
10:02 cait[…]elopment_workflow
10:03 cait Patch signer should not be patch writer. Preferably, patch writer and  patch signer should not be from the same company or institution.
10:03 andreashm cait: just read that.
10:03 andreashm I interpret that as a sponsor can be patch signer, but not someone from company/institution
10:04 cait there is mor info in one of the meeting logs... but have no time to dig that up now
10:05 davidnind See also item 8 -[…]eptance/Rejection
10:06 cait hm i think that's a bit older - should be cleaned up a bit (version numbes...) :)
10:11 cait davidnind++
10:11 cait i think we probably should review all our 'worflow' pages on the wiki sometime
10:12 andreashm might be a good idea
10:13 davidnind will take a look over the next few days, may end up asking some questions to clarify, especially as I'm not a developer...
10:14 davidnind should also probably add as a 'bug' to Bugzilla
10:16 davidnind also, I thought the general rule was that if you developed a patch, then someone from the same organisation/company could not sign-off on it
10:17 andreashm davidnind: yes. but the question here is if something sponsored (developed by another company/institution) can be signed off
10:17 LibraryClaire I was curious about ones where it specifically states that we have sponsored it, but the developer is not from the same institution
10:18 andreashm libraryclaire: yeah, not all of our sponsored patches mentioned that they've been sponsored.
10:19 andreashm as long as this is clear in the notes it should be ok? the qa can ask for a second sign-off if they think it is needed?
10:22 davidnind I don't think that nuance is covered in the links so far, although I'm sure it has probably been discussed before (will do some research in the IRC logs)
10:22 andreashm davidnind: cait had some more info on this, you can check with her also
10:23 drojf in general, if you got patches waiting it would be awesome to sign off on others. then signoffers have more time for the others
10:24 drojf (or yours)
10:24 davidnind I also think that overriding rationale from the community's perspective is that a sponsoring organisation is not signing-off patches (whether developed by them or not) without 'proper' testing and review
10:24 LibraryClaire that was my assumption
10:28 andreashm of course patches would need to be tested and reviewed, no matter who signs off
10:29 cait davidnind: i think a meeting around the time of the kohacon in argentina covered some of that question
10:30 andreashm drojf: that's probably the best rationale, from a community standpoint.
10:37 davidnind will have look when I'm a bit fresher tomorrow - think I need to learn how to improve my searching skills!
10:39 cait me too )
10:40 cait it's not so easy to find something in lengthy discussions
10:41 davidnind it's  like looking for a needle in a haystack (not that I've ever tried though)
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10:51 cait lunch - bbiab
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10:57 drojf later #koha
11:17 Joubu khall: did you get my later about bug 15295?
11:17 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15295 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move the C4::Branch related code to Koha::Libraries - part 2
11:17 khall not yet
11:17 khall there it is!
11:17 Joubu maybe I should ask bad, he is the one who pushed the patchset
11:17 Joubu bag
11:17 khall Joubu: now worries, I can do it
11:17 Joubu ok thanks
11:18 khall np!
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11:55 cait back
11:55 cait we got quite a few patches that are urgent for the stable releases i think
11:56 cait in the pqa queue
11:56 cait jajm already called string freeze - only a week now
11:58 cait Catalyst Academy is on this week - can we get some sign-offs?[…]/Catalyst_Academy
11:59 cait the "writing patches" section mostly needs a sign-off now i think, they have been super busy last night
12:04 LibraryClaire so far I'm just failing to get a sandbox set up /headdesk
12:04 cait hm want to share the steps with us? either it suddenly starts working (because we are watching) or we can help :)
12:06 LibraryClaire I filled out the details and gave it a bug number and my email etc. It said the request was sent and it would email me
12:06 LibraryClaire the video by Bywater suggested that sometimes an email doesn't come through so worth refreshing the page to see if your details update as the person last using a setup
12:07 cait hm sounds reasonable
12:07 LibraryClaire it went from someone using it in May 15 to someone using it in Jan 15 to now noone using it
12:07 cait hm
12:07 * LibraryClaire hits refresh
12:08 LibraryClaire now it's back to Jan '15
12:11 LibraryClaire ooh, it's me now
12:28 jcamins @wunder 11375
12:28 huginn` jcamins: The current temperature in Cedar Grove Cemetery, Flushing, New York, New York is -8.9°C (7:18 AM EST on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
12:30 Amit_Gupta @wunder bangalore
12:30 huginn` Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 25.0°C (5:30 PM IST on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 17.0°C.
12:30 Amit_Gupta @wunder kolkata
12:30 huginn` Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 24.0°C (6:00 PM IST on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
12:33 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15586 - References to Koha::Branches remain in unit tests <[…]87597d0ce72645d07> / Bug 15295: (follow-up) Koha::Libraries - Remove GetBranchesCount <[…]1a27cb51702e416cf>
12:41 cait @later tell drojf 3.22 is translated, but not checked yet
12:41 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
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12:45 oleonard Hi #koha
12:48 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
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12:53 oleonard Joubu: I'm looking at 15269 now
12:54 Joubu thanks oleonard!
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13:01 cait bug 15269
13:01 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15269 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jen, Needs Signoff , Layout tweaks for the opac-detail page
13:01 cait :)
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13:34 misilot is the minimum grace period only in days?
13:34 cait misilot: yes, i think currently only days
13:34 misilot ok thanks :)
13:39 oleonard Why no grace period in seconds?
13:39 oleonard @quote get 123
13:39 wahanui
13:39 huginn` oleonard: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
13:39 misilot i would be happy with hours :)
13:39 misilot or minutes ... since I would like a 30 minute checkout anyways :)
13:39 oleonard misilot: It does seem like a gap in what should be available given hourly loans are possible
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13:45 cait i didn't find the bug i was thinking about, maybe it's worth a retest
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13:52 * oleonard wonders why he isn't seeing shelving location in the OPAC
13:57 kidclamp On the details page oleonard?
13:57 oleonard Yes. Testing in master.
13:57 cait hm
13:57 cait i can test on 3.22 - one sec
13:58 cait hm shows for me in 3.22
13:58 kidclamp I see it in master
13:59 * cait wonders if it's possible that the langage {langcode} option for xslt files is broken?
14:00 oleonard weird.
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14:06 cait hm no. the file is no longer being translated :( it worked in 3.18... need to find out what happens in the translation script *shudders*
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14:15 oleonard A fun prank is to put all the itemtypes into OpacHiddenItems
14:15 cait hm, lots of empty result lists?
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14:48 drojf hello again
14:49 cait oleonard++ mailing list this time
14:49 cait I was thinking about a similar answer
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14:56 oleonard Every time these discussions come up I'm grateful my library doesn't have crazy-complex circulation rules.
14:56 cait :)
14:56 oleonard I would settle for hold limits working.
14:57 cait in general.... eveything we advertise shoudl work
14:57 drojf cait++
14:57 drojf will check tonight
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15:00 cait drojf: thx! not sure i will get to do 3.20 - this took wy longer than i had expected today
15:00 drojf i will have a look
15:11 drojf 1254 words. that seems a lot
15:12 cait yeah, was about 1300 for 3.22 too
15:12 drojf why? how can there be so much changes?
15:13 cait ok...we have custom xslt stylesheets... and they got translated with the standard procedure so far and are in the same directory as the normal xslt files... but it doesn't seem to work with 3.22 anymore opposed to 3.18 :(
15:13 cait anyone seen this or has an idea?
15:13 cait drojf: the string fixes from mveron is my guess :)
15:13 cait he fixed all the splitted up strings with links etc.
15:13 drojf ah
15:13 Joubu khall, bag: patches on bug 15601 prevent TestBuilder tests failing
15:13 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15601 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , TestBuilder tests are failing
15:13 drojf awesome
15:13 drojf just not now :D
15:14 Joubu (only 1 patch actually)
15:14 khall Joubu: I'll qa that asap
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15:14 misilot hey I figure I would ask before I go down the road of working on a plugin. Does anyone have a plugin that copies permissions from one user to another?
15:15 Joubu cait: do you have an example?
15:16 cait Joubu: it's a custom xslt file, based on the standard one
15:16 cait we need it in english and german - so far it just got translated with the other files
15:16 cait not it gets copied, butnot translated
15:16 cait so the file in the 'de-DE' directory remains english
15:17 cait my guess is something has changed with the translation scripts... but i have no idea yet
15:18 Joubu What's the path of the xsl file?
15:18 cait it's right with the other xslt files
15:18 cait koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/de-DE or en/xslt/...
15:21 cait same permissions as the other files... and it does get copied from en with the translation process, but not translated
15:25 Joubu cait: the strings are in po/fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po
15:26 Joubu cait: works for me
15:27 cait did you try to translate a copy of the standard xslt?
15:27 Joubu I can detail if needed, but confirm you have translated the strings in de-DE-marc-UNIMARC.po
15:27 Joubu opac: cp UNIMARCslim2OPACDetail.xsl UNIMARCslim2OPACDetail_TEST.xsl
15:27 cait hm
15:27 cait did you run an update to the po files?
15:27 Joubu then modify a string "Main Author" => "Main Author TEST"
15:27 cait i will try that then i guess
15:27 cait i think we didn't in the past - but i might have missed it
15:28 cait no new strings introduced - just some other changes
15:28 cait the custom file remains completely untranslated for me - not only the additions
15:29 cait the standard files work
15:29 Joubu then translate it "Auteur principal TEST", then install
15:30 Joubu and I have the translated string in the *_TEST.xsl file
15:31 cait thx a lot Joubu
15:31 cait maybe i just missed a step in my documentation
15:35 drojf cait: do we say staat, not land in the patrons module?
15:41 cait i think staat - becuase a coworker once convinced me land was not correct
15:46 drojf probably right, but i have never seen that used as an address label
15:52 cait probably right too
15:52 cait can i ask not to change it because that means i don't hve to change all the privacy documentation again? :)
15:56 drojf heh. i did not change it. i saw that it was used more than oncd so i left it
15:56 drojf *once
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16:05 cait drojf: i think i translated land today... in the prefs... for address format
16:05 cait *sighs* thinking about it
16:06 drojf heh
16:07 drojf "Number of records used in:: %s"
16:07 drojf is there a reason other than a typo to have ::
16:07 cait i filed a bug for that :)
16:07 drojf ?
16:07 drojf ah
16:07 drojf :)
16:07 cait for the academy
16:08 drojf cool
16:08 cait i later thought... we should change translation too
16:08 cait do you have it open by chance?
16:08 cait and the translation is a little weird maybe
16:08 drojf mine is too
16:09 drojf we have two
16:09 drojf Number of records used in: %s                                   Anzahl der Vormerkungen:
16:09 drojf Number of records used in:: %s                                   Anzahl verwendeter Datensätze in: %s
16:09 drojf i did the second just now, i did not see the other
16:09 cait i think it needs to be changed actually
16:09 drojf which one?
16:09 wahanui i heard which one was t?
16:09 cait both :)
16:10 cait it's the number of records that use the authority
16:10 cait i think
16:11 drojf so the english one should be changed too? :D
16:11 cait i think maybe
16:12 cait does the file match? or is it on another page
16:12 cait Number of records using this authority: ?
16:12 cait Number of bibliographic records linked?
16:13 cait oleonard++ signing off academy patches :)
16:13 drojf i only see used in/verwendet in
16:13 drojf in your link
16:13 cait yeah, that's 3.20.1 - before
16:14 cait but i think that's the right spot :)
16:14 drojf yes looks like it
16:14 wahanui Can we get some hard data on that?
16:14 drojf i think it makes sense in english
16:15 drojf should i just take "Verwendet in?
16:15 cait hm sounds good
16:15 cait wonder why there are 2 occurrences - there must be another spot
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16:35 * oleonard steals an academy bug... sorry academy!
16:43 cait thx oleonard :)
16:58 gaetan_B bye
17:01 LibraryClaire bye
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17:16 cait Joubu: found the answer for my xslt behaviour change - we added marc flavour po files since 3.18 - I think I know now how to fix :)
17:17 cait oleonard: thx a lto for that patch!
17:18 Joubu cait: good to hear that
17:19 cait Joubu: the files got picked up in opac/staff po files - where the strings don't exist
17:22 cait all i need to do is to change the file name to start with MARC21 :)
17:22 cait bye all :)
17:23 Joubu same for me, see you tomorrow!
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17:30 oleonard Okay, added 4 new academy bugs to make up for the one I stole.
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18:36 eythian I suppose it is the job of a programmer to add bugs to software, but you shouldn't do it knowingly.
18:38 liw eythian, so that's what I've always been doing wrong...
18:38 eythian Oh. Well, this is awkward.
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18:43 mtompset @seen cait
18:43 huginn` mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 20 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <cait> bye all :)
18:46 rangi oh cool, a bunch of the academy patches have passed qa :)
18:46 rangi i wonder if bag is around today?
18:46 pianohacker rangi: out this week, but I can push 'em
18:47 pianohacker rangi: do you have a list?
18:47 cait pianohacker: out all week?
18:47 rangi 2 secs
18:47 cait maybe it would be good to have someone take a look at the evil bugs then
18:47 cait for the stable releases
18:48 pianohacker cait: to my understanding
18:48 pianohacker cait: how do you mean?
18:48 cait there are evil bugs hat should be fixed in stable releases
18:48 cait which are released next week
18:48 rangi and they are in passed qa now cait ?
18:48 cait but need to be pushed to master first
18:48 cait yep
18:48 cait 15572
18:49 cait broken auth creation
18:49 cait bug 15570 - broken renewal
18:49 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15570 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , circ/ is broken
18:51 mtompset cait: How can I duplicate bug 14613? I don't get any issues which force the send cancel buttons below such that a scroll is needed.
18:51 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14613 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Send cart window is too small in staff and hides 'send' button
18:51 mtompset I attempted with firefox and chrome.
18:51 cait bug 15354
18:51 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15354 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , item types aren't showing in default hold policies
18:51 pianohacker ah, it was bug 15462 I was thinking of that had been pushed
18:51 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15462 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Unable to renew books via circ/
18:52 cait mtompset: i can't test right now sorry - are you checking staff?
18:52 rangi mtompset: id just notice the window is now bigger, but not huge
18:52 pianohacker cait: unfortunately, I passed QA on bug 15354; you'll have to poke khall
18:52 mtompset I can sign off... no biggie, but the initial problem isn't there.
18:53 rangi it'll be to do with font size etc on the browser
18:53 mtompset Ah... thanks for that idea
18:53 cait that's possible
18:54 cait i thnk it happened in firefox for me - might also be translation making things a bit longer or break differently
18:54 rangi thats possible too
18:54 mtompset THERE IT IS!
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18:55 cait sadly we still need to fix authority merge :(
18:55 cait bug 15358
18:55 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15358 blocker, P1 - high, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , does not populate values to merge
18:56 rangi pianohacker:[…]yst_Academy#Day_1  <-- lower priority than the nasty bugs of course .. ill try to keep this page updated (there will be a day 2 section starting today)
18:56 rangi pianohacker: thanks
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18:57 rangi oleonard++ #for adding new bugs
18:57 pianohacker rangi: happy to help
18:57 rangi mtompset++ # for signing off
18:57 rangi Joubu++ # for qaing
18:57 rangi and
18:58 pianohacker I'll spend an hour or so later pushing the breakers first and then push as many academy bugs as I can
18:58 rangi pianohacker++ # for being an awesome role model for the academy kids to aspire to
18:58 cait pianohacker++ :)
18:58 pianohacker :D
19:11 eythian rangi: no! Don't ++ him for adding guys, you're encouraging bad behaviour!
19:11 eythian Err
19:11 eythian Adding bugs
19:12 rangi hehe
19:12 rangi liw:[…]dy_txt-_-viewlink
19:12 liw rangi, hehe
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19:50 oleonard Bye all. Good luck Academy!
19:50 cait joined #koha
19:51 cait back
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19:53 eythian @wunder ams
19:53 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 1.0°C (8:49 PM CET on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
19:53 eythian Yay, >0
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19:55 * Francesca waves at eythian
19:56 eythian Hi Francesca and aleisha
19:56 aleisha hi eythian
19:56 Francesca hey
19:56 Francesca looks a bit warmer where you are than last time we spoke
19:57 eythian Marginally
19:57 eythian I have a woolen jacket and a scarf though, that counts for a lot.
19:58 Francesca I can imagine
19:59 aleisha rangi: what's the link to the bugs the koha group is working on?
19:59 eythian The canals haven't frozen though, so I don't think it counts as a proper winter.
20:07 Francesca 1 degree isn't counted as a proper winter?
20:07 Francesca wow
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20:19 Francesca rangi: thats the code for removing the xmas theme from the dashboard
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20:20 ibeardslee #koha++ # for being awesome helping the Academy
20:20 wizzyrea \o/
20:34 aleisha \o/ x2
20:35 pastebot "natasha" at pasted "Fixing nav issues for scoreboard (centering text)" (15 lines) at
20:36 Francesca wahanui cats
20:36 wahanui The only good cat is a stir-fried cat.
20:36 Francesca wahanui literal cat
20:36 wahanui Francesca: cat =is=
20:46 wizzyrea @wunder 66047
20:46 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Quail Ridge East, Lawrence, Kansas is -4.4°C (2:39 PM CST on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 9 PM CST this evening...
20:46 wizzyrea hm that's not as cold as I thought it would be there.
20:46 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
20:47 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (9:30 AM NZDT on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
20:47 wizzyrea (people were complaining about windshields cracking in the cold - I was like "how cold does it have to be to have THAT crazy problem")
20:48 * Francesca has introduced the koha academy people to wahanui
20:53 cait @later tell khall can you please check 14695? patchs have no sign off line but bug is set to signed off
20:53 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
21:11 natasha gandalf - koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog​/en/modules/tools/
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21:18 cbrannon Could someone confirm, does items.itemnotes_nonpublic exist?  Schema says yes, Koha says no.
21:20 pianohacker cbrannon: I think it's a pretty recent addition
21:22 pianohacker cbrannon: see bug 13023 for details; it's in 3.20+
21:22 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13023 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Nonpublic note for items should be mapped to a database column like itemnotes
21:22 cbrannon Do you know where it is mapped currently?
21:23 kidclamp not :-) you can get it through moresubfieldsxml I think
21:23 pianohacker cbrannon: it was an unmapped item subfield, so it's only in more_subfields_xml (you have to use ExtractValue)
21:23 kidclamp for reports cbrannon
21:23 pianohacker yup yup
21:23 kidclamp jinx!
21:23 cbrannon Thanks
21:24 * Francesca waves at pianohacker
21:26 pianohacker hi Francesca :)
21:27 Francesca hey :) long time no see/speak
21:27 pianohacker yup
21:27 pianohacker I've been pretty quiet in #koha, holidays and all
21:27 Francesca mmm I'm on holiday too
21:29 pianohacker still? dang
21:29 pianohacker I started teaching last wednesday
21:31 Francesca I dont go back till the end of feb
21:31 pianohacker wow.
21:31 Francesca its awesome
21:31 pianohacker oh, right, this would be summer break for you
21:31 Francesca feels like I've been on holiday forever
21:31 Francesca yup thats right
21:32 pianohacker @wunder Wellington, NZ
21:32 huginn` pianohacker: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
21:33 pianohacker ugh I'd kill for that weather...
21:33 pianohacker @wunder 80401
21:33 huginn` pianohacker: The current temperature in 16 1/2 St & Washington Ave, Golden, Colorado is 5.4°C (2:32 PM MST on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
21:37 Francesca brrrr  cold
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21:42 rangi natasha:
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21:53 wizzyrea francesca: http://taiga.koha-community.or[…]cements-catalyst/
21:53 barton pianohacker: does the zipcode 80401 *actually* resolve to 16 1/2 St & Washington Ave, Golden, Colorado?
21:53 cait @wunder 80401
21:53 huginn` cait: The current temperature in 16 1/2 St & Washington Ave, Golden, Colorado is 5.5°C (2:53 PM MST on January 19, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
21:54 cait oh, you already did that
21:54 * cait goes to try and do something useful
21:54 dcook @wunder syd
21:54 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 28.0°C (8:30 AM AEDT on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
21:55 * barton thinks that cait has a higher probability of doing something useful than most people he knows.
21:55 dcook ^
21:55 cait *hides*
21:57 pianohacker barton: well, it's in that zipcode, but I think the only thing of note right there is a random person's weather station :)[…]xead28743552dae66
21:57 barton ah, I guess that makes sense.
22:00 pianohacker I was thinking a bus station, but even that's a block away
22:01 barton so, as I am wont to about this time of day .... I have a zebra question ...
22:02 dcook I'm still waking up and unable to avoid things, so I'm keen
22:02 dcook About Zebra that is
22:05 barton we have a library who who is moving from one version of zebra to another. They have some bibs with titles in Chinese. On their old system (which I don't have admin access to), when they search, they can search with the idiograms next to each other. On our system, they must be separated by spaces. I'm not sure what the difference is.
22:07 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15572: Add tests for TransformHtmlToMarc <[…]9d73bf2323ab4fd67> / Bug 15572: Follow-up to fix error on authority creation <[…]99c1bc0883bc444e0> / Bug 15572: TransformHtmlToMarc - rewrite the loop <[…]=koha.git;a=commi
22:07 cait barton: can you give an example?
22:08 cait thx pianohacker :)
22:09 barton cait well, I can try -- I'm using irssi for IRC -- I know that it won't properly *display* multibyte characters, but it might transmit them ....
22:09 pianohacker cait: just pushed bug 15570 as well; can't push bug 15534
22:09 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15570 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , circ/ is broken
22:09 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15534 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Add the ability to prevent a patron from placing a hold on a record with available items
22:09 pianohacker woops
22:09 pianohacker bug 15354
22:09 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15354 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , item types aren't showing in default hold policies
22:10 barton The title in question is "心意更新"
22:10 cait pianohacker: i can give it another check
22:10 cait / sign off
22:10 pianohacker cait: it's passed qa
22:10 cait give me a few minutes?
22:10 pianohacker but I'm the one who made it that way :)
22:10 cait yeah :) so i am stepping in for you
22:10 pianohacker ohhhh kk
22:10 pianohacker cait: yeah, no rush. Just ping me whenever it's pushable. Thanks!
22:11 cait just finished another patch - will start with it right now
22:12 cait barton: and they need to put spaces between the signs?
22:12 barton ^^ did that display correctly? it looks like line noise to me, not chinese.
22:12 pianohacker barton: yar
22:12 cait looks fine here :)
22:12 pianohacker cait: yar
22:12 barton cait: yes. when they separate those by spaces, it returns results.
22:12 cait correct results?
22:13 cait pianohacker: hm i have another that would be good
22:13 cait bug 15568
22:13 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15568 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Circ rules are not displayed anymore
22:14 wizzyrea well that's a pretty terrible bug.
22:14 barton cait yes, the search results were correct with spaces.
22:14 dcook Jeez, a person looks away for a second, and suddenly there's so much scrollback..
22:15 barton ikr, dcood.
22:15 barton *dcook
22:15 barton [or dood, of you prefer]
22:15 dcook dcook :p
22:16 dcook Search results correct with spaces..
22:16 dcook Are they using ICU?
22:16 barton yes.
22:16 cait have you compared your config file with theirs?
22:16 dcook Ah right and you have no access..
22:16 barton larrb checked their icu settings, said that everythign looked right...
22:16 cait hm
22:17 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15570: (follow-up) Bug 11944 Remove all utf8 filter from templates <[…]59a593ed28c433798>
22:17 dcook I'd look at what's happening in yaz-client
22:17 dcook And what sort of searches are being done
22:17 barton I know that in certain contexts, can control how spaces are parsed. I may look at that, but I have a feeling that there's omethign else involved.
22:17 dcook Both in terms of the CCL qualifiers and wwhat version of Zebra
22:17 dcook O_o
22:18 dcook I would doubt that would play any role
22:18 dcook Are the searches being done in Koha or yaz-client?
22:18 dcook Because Koha loves to mess with search queries
22:18 barton heh.
22:18 barton Yeah, just koha so far.
22:19 dcook Yeah, it's a shame you don't have access to their system
22:20 dcook Are they doing wrdl, phrase, or some other search?
22:20 barton I'll dig into it further... it's just that this sounded *really* familiar.
22:20 dcook ICU certainly likes to play with spaces, but yeah we don't do anything with CJK ourselves so no idea :/
22:20 dcook We're mostly English, French, Arabic over here
22:21 barton dcook: right now, I'm mostly looking at screenshots that the partner has given me -- it seems like keyword search -- ie wrdl.
22:21 barton owait -- no, they were doing a title search.
22:24 cait pianohacker: without the circ rules one you can't test the patch on master it seems
22:25 pianohacker cait: without bug 15568 you can't test bug 15354, you're saying
22:25 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15568 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Circ rules are not displayed anymore
22:25 pianohacker ?
22:25 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15354 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , item types aren't showing in default hold policies
22:25 cait yeah, at least i couldn't
22:25 cait big perl error
22:25 pianohacker cait: kk, pushin'
22:25 cait test first :)
22:25 pianohacker cait: did
22:25 pianohacker cait: wait, perl error?
22:25 pianohacker ;_;
22:25 pianohacker all I got was no rules displaying
22:25 cait yeah for me it exploded - didn#t do that yesterday when i tested it the first time...
22:25 pianohacker can you pastebin?
22:25 cait hm i can try to make it explode again, sec
22:26 barton ^^ see what I mean about cait dong useful things?
22:26 pianohacker making me doubt my sanity is useful but scary
22:27 dcook barton: I recently learned a neat ICU trick. Let me see if I can recall it. It might help you.
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22:27 barton neat_icu_trick++
22:28 cait pianohacker: 15354 is signed off... now working on the explosions
22:28 dcook Well, maybe not a trick, but a tool
22:28 dcook echo 心意更新 | yaz-icu -c etc/zebradb/etc/words-icu.xml
22:28 dcook Your path might be different..
22:29 dcook I should be using the latest words-icu.xml
22:29 dcook It looks like it tokenizes that string into 4 separate tokens which I suspect would be what you want..
22:29 barton huh. interesting. I'll give that a shot.
22:29 cait pianohacker: not exploding now... must be something weird again
22:29 pianohacker you can't see my nope face right now
22:30 pianohacker so just, you know, imagine it
22:30 pianohacker cait: so you think I can push 15568 then 15354 ?
22:31 dcook barton: Using phrases-icu.xml is slightly different... I'll put it in paste
22:31 cait i am a bit ... annoyed... that the perl error won't show up again
22:31 cait if you think the patches are good i think you can, i will keep poking it a bit longer
22:31 * pianohacker tries to channel his inner bag
22:31 pastebot "dcook" at pasted "ICU stuffz" (27 lines) at
22:32 dcook Interesting. paste didn't like some of those characters..
22:32 cait i think the worst one was the authorities patch
22:33 pianohacker puuuuuuuuuuuushed
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22:33 pianohacker okay, now 15354
22:35 pianohacker cait: ... should I sign off again like I usually do before pushing?
22:35 cait hm good question
22:36 cait i don't have an opinion about that i think :)
22:36 pianohacker cait: I guess the pushing-to-master signoff is just so people know who pushed it
22:36 pianohacker so why not
22:36 cait true
22:37 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15568: Fix display default circ rules <[…]0d4562f6a99fcee70>
22:39 pianohacker and pushed
22:39 cait :)
22:41 cait Catalyst Academy hackers: please remember to assign the bugs to yourself when you start working on them and latest when you upload your patches :)
22:42 dcook barton: I think the last thing has to do with a newline not being processed correctly
22:44 barton Yeah, I saw that in the output; that was my guess as well... I think that at this point I need to do a lot more research before I can ask intelligent questions about it.
22:46 dcook Give me SSH access to your server, and I might nut it out :p
22:46 dcook But no don't do that. I have too many other things to do :p
22:46 pianohacker dcook: yeah, that's far too tempting of an offer :)
22:47 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15354: (QA followup) remove tab character <[…]49ddc3785a22c488a> / Bug 15354: Sort itemtypes by translated description everywhere on circ rules admin... <[…]df83e15e587f7b21a> / Bug 15354: Fix translated itemtype descriptions in circ rules <http://git.ko
22:47 dcook pianohacker: Haha. Nice to hear that :)
22:47 barton pianohacker: I won't tell larryb you said that.
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22:48 dcook Oh, another useful thing..
22:48 dcook I think I posted about it on the listserv
22:48 dcook If you can increase Zebra's verbosity, you can tail the zebrasrv logs and that may be a huge help
22:49 pianohacker barton: honestly, if it unmucks Zebra, even he might not mind
22:50 dcook Zebrasrv will tell you what queries are coming your way, yaz-icu can tell you how the ICU indexing is working, and... yaz-client can tell you what's been indexed
22:50 dcook That should give you everything you need to know I would think
22:50 dcook format xml, elements zebra::index ftw
22:50 dcook Oh, except with ICU..
22:50 pianohacker amen
22:50 dcook elements index
22:50 pianohacker ?
22:50 pianohacker ugh, zebra
22:50 dcook Oh wait..
22:50 dcook elements index just shows you the XSLT output..
22:50 dcook zebra::index and ICU don't always seem to get along
22:50 dcook Yeah, ugh, zebra
22:51 * barton hides.
22:51 dcook The fact that it works with spaces is encouraging
22:51 dcook It means that you're not that far off
22:54 barton dcook actually I re-read the ticket, and ... um... the problem is a litle different than I first thought -- I'm gettig *too many* results when the ideographs are mushed together, then, seemingly, the right results when separated by spaces. Honestly I don't know if that makes the problem better or worse.
22:55 dcook It makes it even more exciting!
22:55 barton but don't worry about it tonight... my thinker's about shot.
22:56 dcook I'm sure you'll figure it out :)
22:56 dcook Well, not tonight
22:56 dcook Sleep is good
22:57 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14538: editing perl doc for CalcFine <[…]9d2be771bd5fa03e8>
22:59 barton dcook; with appologies to Theodore Parker "The curve of barton's trouble-shooting is long, but it bends toward the correct answer"
23:02 dcook hehe
23:03 aleisha gandalf!!!!!!!!!!!
23:04 aleisha you figured it out!!
23:04 pianohacker cait: is there a preference you have to turn on to see Add messages for bug 14406?
23:04 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14406 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, brianagreally, Passed QA , When adding messages in patron account, only first name is shown in pull down
23:04 cait pianohacker: nope
23:04 cait go to the patron account in staff
23:04 cait checkouts tagb
23:04 cait tab
23:04 cait on the left, there is a link add message
23:05 cait ... the other left... i meant on the right
23:05 cait Add a new message
23:05 * Francesca has found a loooong list of front end bugs
23:05 aleisha gandalf: any chance you can do the same fix for the Export authority records tab?
23:07 pianohacker cait: ohhh,, not the checkouts tab at the bottom of
23:07 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14613: Send cart window is too small in staff and hides 'send' button <[…]4beb3a2a21122035d>
23:07 Francesca gandalf++ for good bug fixing and the awesome nick
23:08 cait pianohacker: found it? )
23:09 pianohacker cait: yeah
23:09 pianohacker cait: your original bug mentioned the details tab so that threw me off
23:09 cait sorry for that
23:10 cait a library reported it, probably typed up quickly
23:10 cait hm
23:10 pianohacker ?
23:11 cait everyone wants my opinion on bug 14244.... but i'd be really happy if someone else could take a look too
23:11 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14244 normal, P5 - low, ---, misilot, Signed Off , viewing a bib item's circ history requires circulation permissions
23:11 pianohacker oh lordy
23:12 pianohacker rangi: pushed a patch from each of the three
23:13 pianohacker cait: will take a look
23:13 cait I think I don't like it
23:13 cait because you see the patron information
23:13 cait someone with circulate permission seesit anyway...
23:13 cait but someone with catalog... well still sees some, but maybe not so much?
23:14 rangi thank you
23:17 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14406: When adding messages in patron account, only first name is shown in pull... <[…]dde8fa17104196fea>
23:18 cait added my opinion - please feel free to disagree (bug 14244)
23:18 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14244 normal, P5 - low, ---, misilot, Signed Off , viewing a bib item's circ history requires circulation permissions
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23:26 pastebot "Francesca" at pasted "adding alternating colours for scoreboard table" (4 lines) at
23:28 rangi checkout bug 15600
23:28 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15600 minor, P5 - low, ---, chloealabaster, Needs Signoff , System preferences broken toolbar looks broken
23:28 rangi its pretty cool, and I didnt do any help
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23:37 wizzyrea nice one!

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