IRC log for #koha, 2015-11-10

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00:12 dcook eythian: Ha! Another long email!
00:12 dcook Fortunately this one is more on point... and actually solicited :p
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00:24 eythian dcook: I don't see it
00:25 dcook Hmm maybe it hasn't been sent out yet
00:25 dcook I have a bit to add to it anyway..
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02:21 tcohen hi
02:21 wahanui privet, tcohen
02:27 eythian gmcharlt_: is there anything you need to know about the package release process? You have the GPG key for it?
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04:08 dcook I thought that the package installs automatically backed up Koha?
04:08 dcook Or is that a cronjob you have to automate yourself?
04:10 dcook Yeah... cron.daily/koha-common
04:10 dcook koha-run-backups --days 2 --output /var/spool/koha
04:11 dcook Beauty
04:11 eythian yeah, all automagic
04:14 dcook Just the way I like it
04:42 Amit_Gupta hi all
05:56 dcook 4 minutes to clear my inbox!
05:56 dcook Can I do it?
05:56 * dcook shakes his head but tries anyway
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07:19 fridolin bonjouuuuur
07:22 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha
07:33 * magnuse waves
07:34 magnuse dcook: Ctrl-A + Delete?
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07:51 reiveune hello
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07:57 jajm hi
07:57 wahanui kia ora, jajm
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08:06 alex_a bonjour
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08:16 gaetan_B hello
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08:53 Koha_IM Hi... First time here!!
08:53 Koha_IM Need Help in deleting catalog records (after batch record, item deletion)... can anyone help?
08:55 Koha_IM ??
09:02 Joubu Maybe, what's your question?
09:07 Koha_IM I imported some data as a test into KOHA and it was successful... After the test i deleted it
09:07 Koha_IM using batch record and item deletion in the tools section of KOHA
09:08 Koha_IM I can still see those books in the OPAC and the intranet access
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09:09 Koha_IM I also ran rebuild_zebra.pl with "-b -r -v -x" the command prompt said cleaned but still these records are pressent
09:10 cait did you empty out the database totally?
09:14 Joubu Do you access to the detail page?
09:17 Koha_IM @cait Yes i did
09:17 huginn Koha_IM: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
09:19 Koha_IM @Joubu..detail page? sorry I am completely new to Koha learning it to catalog a charity based library
09:19 huginn Koha_IM: I suck
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09:20 Joubu What happen when you click on the title link from the result page?
09:23 Koha_IM it says "The record you requested does not exist"
09:24 Joubu So the records are still indexer and correctly deleted. How did you install Koha? Which version are you using?
09:24 Joubu indexed*
09:25 Koha_IM I am using Koha version 3.20.02.000
09:26 Koha_IM Koha was installed for this library by a local software company whose support ended after that.
09:27 Koha_IM I am learning it as I go along. They have been unable to implement it for the past 1 year I have taken up the project voluntarily to seen if I can
09:31 Joubu The support company haven't been able to make the zebra's indexation working in 1 year and now the support's contract is ended?
09:31 Joubu wonderful
09:31 Joubu Koha_IM: Are you sure you don't get errors on running the rebuild_zebra script?
09:33 Koha_IM Actually the company installed the software and did not provide any support after installing.
09:34 Koha_IM No the script runs fine
09:36 Joubu Either you are updating the wrong index, or the indexation went wrong, I don't see another reason at your problem :)
09:37 Koha_IM can you elaborate that please :/
09:38 Joubu Koha_IM: I have forgotten an important check :) Go on the about page and check if there is not error
09:41 Koha_IM no error on the about page
09:42 Koha_IM checked all the tabs in about as well cant find any error except for 2 perl modules that need updating
09:46 Joubu Koha_IM: did you read http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]leshooting_Zebra?
09:46 Joubu erk, remove the '?' at the end
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09:47 Viktor Hi #koha !
09:48 Viktor Asking zebra for what 001 + 003 values belong to a certain biblionumber - doable or is there a better way?
09:50 Koha_IM Joubu: came across it but I dont understand half of it to be frank
09:50 Viktor (We need to query the ILS-DI getAvailability but only have 001 as incoming value and parsing the whole database for the MARCXML-blobs would be painful)
09:51 Viktor (In the long run we'd love to see the possibility to index user specified fields from the MARC-record in the database to make things like this possible. But for now we look for a bit of a hack)
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09:56 gaetan_B Viktor: that's actually a debate i had with other librarians
09:56 gaetan_B my understanding of the marc21 standard is that 001 should hold the biblionumber (which is what we do in unimarc)
09:56 gaetan_B it's then easier with ilsdi and all
09:57 gaetan_B but not everyone agrees on that
09:57 gaetan_B (i'm not sure i am really answering your question here...)
09:57 Viktor gaetan_B: Interesting! Does that mean that imported records get's a new 001? Is the old one then discarded or just moved somewhere?
09:57 gaetan_B An imported record gets a new 001, and the old one gets discarded.
09:57 Joubu Koha_IM: Does yaz-client sound familiar to you?
09:58 gaetan_B (that's the way it works by default in unimarc)
09:58 Viktor Thanks. But also ouch. That makes things a bit more difficult.
09:58 Koha_IM Joubu: Nope Sorry :S
09:59 Viktor gaetan_B Then we'll have to see if we can get the external service to send us ISBN instead.
09:59 gaetan_B for some marc21 clients which required biblionumber in 001 (usually for integration with other tools such as VUFind) we changed the set up so that the biblionumber does go in 001 (you have to change the koha mappings, the zebra indexes, and the xslt for it to work)
09:59 Joubu Koha_IM: Could you paste the result of the rebuild_zebra cmd?
09:59 Joubu paste?
09:59 wahanui paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org
09:59 gaetan_B depending on the external service, you could have an xslt (z3950) or a modification template (for batch import) to move the old 001 elsewhere i guess
09:59 Viktor gaetan_B++ Highly useful information - thanks! To bad we didn't think of that before starting to import :)
10:03 Joubu Koha_IM: what's the result of `grep zebra_bib_index_mode $KOHA_CONF` ?
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10:03 Koha_IM Joubu: if you mean when I rebuild it as root ".../migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -run-as-root -b -a -z" well there is nothing it says "root@koha:"
10:06 Joubu no, don't run it as root :-/
10:06 Joubu I meant when you run it, as usual
10:07 Joubu using the first cmd you give us, with -x
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10:12 Koha_IM Joubu: "<zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode>" when i run grep zebra_bib_index_mode $KOHA_CONF
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10:21 Joubu Koha_IM: did you paste the result of the rebuild_zebra command?
10:33 Koha_IM Joubu: I have someone on the server end (someone who knows linux)...please give me a moment
10:41 magnuse gaetan_B, Viktor: for marc21 and normarc, 001 and 003 is kept intact by default, i think. that is very important for people like cait and her union catalogue
10:41 magnuse i have created bug 9921 to have an alternative way
10:41 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9921 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nunyo.lopez, In Discussion , Make it possible to force 001 = biblionumber
10:44 magnuse lunchtime!
10:44 wahanui lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting
10:48 Koha_IM Joubu: Can't locate Koha.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.                  2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.1                  4 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /etc/perl/C4/Context.pm li                  ne 106.
10:48 Koha_IM > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /etc/perl/C4/Context.pm line 106.
10:48 Koha_IM > Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zeb                  ra.pl line 6.
10:48 Koha_IM > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild                  _zebra.pl line 6.
10:48 Koha_IM when i dont run it as root
10:50 Joubu Koha_IM: Sorry, I won't have a lot of time to help you. You get this error because your KOHA_CONF variable is not defined. It should be set to your koha-conf.xml file
10:50 Joubu export KOHA_CONF=/path/to/your/koha-conf.xml
10:50 Joubu then try again
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10:52 Joubu you should also check your zebra versions (search on the wiki which one is recommended)
10:55 Koha_IM Joubu: I did and the error is the same but when i run as root it compiles successfully
10:56 Koha_IM also I have previously loaded the following environment variables in koha.sh
10:56 Koha_IM export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib
10:56 Koha_IM export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/rmi/koha-conf.xml
11:01 Joubu And? Does it work know?
11:02 Joubu Koha_IM: I am not following you, 2 hours ago you pasted 'rebuild_zebra.pl with "-b -r -v -x"', 1 hour ago it was " -run-as-root -b -a -z"
11:03 Koha_IM Okay let me explain.
11:03 Joubu please use -b -r -v -x using the correct koha user, then check the permissions on the zebra index files
11:06 Koha_IM I imported my books using marc file but they were not being imported into the catalog from the reservoir for which I set a cron job and also rebuild the "rebuild_zebra.pl" after that manually
11:06 Koha_IM this time i rebuild it as -run-as-root-
11:08 Koha_IM when i deleted those records i was unable to delete them completely (as explained in the posts above) so I searched and found that compiling rebuild_zebra.pl with "-b -r -v -x" will clean my records but that failed after I tried it
11:09 Joubu If that fail with "Can't locate", try `export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib` before
11:15 Koha_IM tried now it says "coudn't open .../koha-conf.xml"
11:42 cait magnuse: thx :)
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11:50 Joubu Koha_IM: Check the permissions on the koha-conf.xml file
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12:00 drojf hi #koha
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12:03 magnuse cait: ?
12:03 magnuse moin drojf
12:03 drojf hei magnuse
12:04 cait hi drojf
12:04 drojf hi cait
12:11 mtj hey #koha
12:12 mtj aahh meh.. KohaIM has left - i was going to suggest to use the packages commands..
12:14 mtj # koha_rebuild_zebra -f mykoha
12:14 mtj etc..
12:16 mtj oh well.. hopefully they will be back again
12:18 cait magnuse: 001 etc.
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12:24 tcohen morning!
12:26 cait morning tcohen
12:26 tcohen hi cait
12:26 mveron Hi again everybody
12:26 tcohen hey mveron
12:27 tcohen how are those patches doing?
12:28 mveron tcohen: At the moment I'm working on Bug 14969
12:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files
12:28 tcohen awesome, let me know anything you need
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12:32 xarragon Hmm, do we have deps on Data::SearchEngine::Zebra?
12:32 xarragon (for tests)
12:33 tcohen not on master
12:35 magnuse cait: ah
12:36 tcohen hi Joubu
12:37 Joubu tcohen: o/
12:37 xarragon tcohen: Ok, thanks. I think something is wrong with my @INC anyway here..
12:38 tcohen xarragon: you can always try git grep "Data::Search" on the repo
12:41 xarragon tcohen: Yeah but it is only one of several problems I get when running tests. Seems my cpanm-installed stuff (in a sep. directory) is not being picked up any longer, as well as internal Koha stuff.
12:42 xarragon tcohen: Normally the include path never gives me trouble, so I dismissed it up until now.
12:42 xarragon "it is not what you don't know that gets you, it is what you know for sure but turns out that you are wrogn about that does."
12:43 tcohen xarragon: why are you messing with deps?
12:44 tcohen that's what 'apt-get install koha-perldeps' is for
12:45 xarragon Well it is a dev install and I use debian with manual cpanm overlay in a separate install
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12:45 xarragon But it turns out the trailing 'lib/perl5' had gotten trimmed off the PERL5LIB path.
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12:46 Joubu mveron-away: erk
12:46 Joubu away
12:47 Joubu Hey :)
12:47 mveron Joubu?
12:47 wahanui Joubu is probably not sure how to fix that correctly
12:47 tcohen not anymore it seems
12:47 Joubu yes, I am never sure
12:47 Joubu mveron: end of my comment 15 bug 14969: we need these tests to continue
12:47 mveron Hi Joubu
12:47 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files
12:48 Joubu I have found what I was thinking for,
12:48 Joubu bug 13813 comment 82
12:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13813 enhancement, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Remove deprecated module C4::Dates from system - first steps
12:48 mveron Joubu: I did not yet have time to answer on your comments, sorry.
12:48 Joubu Ok, no worries, take your time ;)
12:50 mveron Joubu: What are you expecting me to do?  Go back several months and do the whole C4::Dates stuff again?
12:50 Joubu no, to continue with a more careful approaches
12:51 xarragon tcohen: all fine now, was stuff left from master in the tree, had to do a clean -f -d to nuke it
12:52 mveron Joubu: All of the C4::Patches are signed-off . Should I re-open them?
12:52 xarragon tcohen: plus the include path was not set right with the shellscript I use to set up the koha dev env
12:52 tcohen xarragon: have you tried this? https://github.com/digibib/koh[…]vbox/tree/ansible
12:53 tcohen there's no way back from it
12:53 Joubu mveron: I am just not confident with last patches, which make some difficult changes. I would like to see a script to compare the different changes, with the 4 different inputs
12:54 Joubu and confirm that the changes are correct in any cases
12:54 Joubu unit tests
12:54 wahanui unit tests are required for all new routines in C4:: and Koha::.
12:54 mveron Joubu: I'm running out of time.
12:54 Joubu mveron: as I said, take your time
12:55 xarragon tcohen: I plan to try it at least, it is a death trap to just test on your own dev box. As demonstrated above it tends to slowly become a bit.. depraved without you noticing
12:56 xarragon Btw, running the db_dependant tests.. are they detrimental to my database (on a dev box)?
12:56 xarragon Should I "Nuke and Flush" as I regularily do anyway?
12:56 Joubu xarragon: it shouldn't but... who really knows? :)
12:57 tcohen xarragon: if it does, you should fill a bug :-D
12:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14575: Fix typo in opac-basket.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]885775e55b6a25fe0> / Bug 14575: Fix typo OPACurlOpenInNewWindow vs OPACURLOpenInNewWindow <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]774b2ee0b1ec67f77> / Bug 14575: OPACURLOpenInNewWindow should apply to item-level urls too <http://git.koha-community.org/g
12:57 tcohen we are experiencing some side-effects on tests (which we haven't tracked down yet)
12:58 tcohen xarragon: trying the kohadevbox will take 5 minutes from your life. Compare it to debugging dependency nightmares
12:58 xarragon Ok, I just saw the warnings on the wiki. I normally just run subset of tests on the modules I am corrupting, but I need to take the test aspect a bit more serious.
12:59 xarragon tcohen: Yeah, and I might reinstall this machine anyway soon. And setting up this manually again is kinda painful if I don't work on it daily.
12:59 xarragon Linux on a laptop is a daily exercise in small frustrations anyway
13:00 xarragon Favorite one being that when you unplug the external monitor it will not switch back to internal display automatically and when you press the shortcut to open the screen switching dialog it opens it.. on the disconnected display.
13:02 tcohen xarragon: i vagrant destroy jessie when I leave the office everyday, and vagrant up jessie when I get back while preparing my morning coffee. It is a joy
13:03 xarragon tcohen: Sounds very suspicious though. I some countries clearing your browsing history is considered "obstruction of justice". So what you are doing must involve something really, really evil.
13:03 xarragon Oh, I forgot.. Open Source is communism.
13:05 tcohen well, it has proven to fit in capitalism as well
13:05 tcohen xarragon: see bug 15102 for instance
13:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15102 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Passed QA , Fix capitalization for some strings on XSLT detail pages
13:06 xarragon It does, it is just so fun seeing the most outspoken "capitalists" frown upon competition.'
13:06 xarragon Anyway, I won't drag us into a political debate here.
13:07 tcohen it seems matts heard about politics discussions so he shows up
13:07 matts ^^
13:07 tcohen hi matts!
13:09 xarragon Hmm, I might have to reconfigure the devbox so that it does not clash with my primary dev install.
13:10 xarragon tcohen: Does it download a lot every time you spin it up, or does it cache all the heavy stuff?
13:10 xarragon I am on 3G only at home, luckily unmetered but still not a fat pipe by far.
13:10 tcohen if you follow the instructions it will cache the OS image, and download koha-common+friends
13:11 tcohen it uses NFS to mount your local kohaclone
13:11 tcohen (need to set an env variable)
13:16 tcohen xarragon: you don't need to destroy it as I do, right?
13:20 mveron Does onybody make use of misc/maintenance/fix_accountlines_date.pl? See bug 14998
13:20 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14998 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, In Discussion , Remove C4::Dates from installer and maintenance folders
13:39 magnuse i have a 3.20.4 installation where going to <intranet>/cgi-bin/koha/about.pl gives "Software error: DBIC result type  isn't of the type Borrower at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Objects.pm line 87" - anyone else seen that?
13:39 magnuse it's one of those errors that are just a blank page with the error text on it, not a nicely formatted part of the "system info" tab or anything like that
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13:56 tcohen cait: bug 7143
13:56 wahanui somebody said bug 7143 was ready for an easy signoff
13:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
13:57 tcohen could you please take a look?
13:58 cait not right now sorry
13:58 cait super busy
13:58 wahanui super busy is the new normal
13:58 drojf lol
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13:59 mario morning
14:00 tcohen cait: i will use my super powers
14:01 magnuse use all the powers!
14:02 tcohen what could go wrong?
14:02 tcohen kaboom
14:02 tcohen hahah
14:04 magnuse oh noes, the rm is loosing it!
14:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143: Updates for the 3.22 release <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e99dc1da36579200b>
14:08 magnuse tcohen++
14:08 magnuse ooh 291 developers! who will be #300?
14:09 tcohen is "A. Sassmannshausen" here?
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14:23 cait tcohen: atheia
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14:58 xarragon Will extended attributes only be attached to a borrower created after the attribute, or is there a way to push it to old accounts as well?
14:59 xarragon Oh, wait, patron was not member of the correct category of users
15:04 tcohen cait:  git log v3.20.00..HEAD| grep Author: | sort | uniq
15:05 tcohen i did that, and searched for each
15:05 tcohen on history and about
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15:19 cait tcohen: for the new devs?
15:21 ashimema A. Sassmannshausen is atheia
15:21 ashimema i've pinged him for you tcohen
15:22 drojf should be in the irc regulars page maybe :)
15:22 ashimema he's a semi-regular
15:22 ashimema I should poke him to leave his client on more often ;)
15:23 drojf regular does not say anything about the frequency ;)
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15:23 ashimema haha
15:23 atheia Hi #koha :-)
15:23 ashimema we appear to have lost tcohen now
15:23 ashimema think his super powers got the better of him
15:24 atheia ah haha :-)
15:25 cait :)
15:25 * cait waves
15:25 cait i think it was about the about page
15:25 atheia \me waves back
15:25 atheia damn. still not got the hang of irc commands…  ;-)
15:25 * ashimema wonders if me was meant to be /me
15:25 ashimema ;)
15:25 cait because you are not here often enouhg
15:26 * atheia thinks it was indeed.
15:26 atheia cait: touché!
15:26 ashimema ooh..
15:26 ashimema atheia: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e99dc1da36579200b
15:26 ashimema your at the top
15:27 ashimema wlcome to the official contributors.. no escaping now
15:28 atheia Wow! how did that happen?
15:28 ashimema you must have done somthing wrong ;)
15:28 atheia amazing!
15:28 * atheia dance of joy
15:28 atheia well… I got the /me right… just the conjugation wasn't quite there…
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16:00 bdonnahue Hey everyone. im a bit confused about koha and marc 21 records. can koha look up information for a record from amazon or the lib of congress?
16:01 cait marc21 is a data format
16:01 cait koha can use standard protocols like SRU and Z39.50 to look up information in other databases
16:01 cait amazon does afaik not provide such
16:01 cait but the library of congress does
16:01 xarragon Do we have any tests for web services? Or is it purely manual?
16:02 reiveune bye
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16:02 cait xarragon: hm can you give an example?
16:03 xarragon cait: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14257
16:03 huginn Bug 14257: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add show_extended_attributes to ILS-DI call GetPatronInfo
16:04 cait hmmm
16:05 cait not sure if there are test sfor ils-di - i guess you already checked
16:06 xarragon cait: Ah wait, I think I found one
16:06 xarragon cait: ./db_dependent/ILSDI_Services.
16:06 bdonnahue cait: thanks for explaining that
16:07 bdonnahue so records for a given book for example can can have different sets of data
16:07 bdonnahue for example it could be missing some data
16:10 cait koha can overlay them with a better record
16:11 cait or you could import another and then merge the 2 together, using fields from each to create a new better record - but usually people overlay i think
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16:18 bdonnahue ah ok thanks. and is the location info is that part ofr the marc record?
16:20 * mveron is back in about 5 hours
16:21 bdonnahue i will likely need to merge
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16:35 pianohacker shalom
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16:54 cait bdonnahue: the items are not part of the marc record
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16:54 bdonnahue cait: ah ok thanks. so koha stores that information in some other way?
16:55 cait it's a separate table - the items are not affected if you overlay the bibliographic record
16:55 bdonnahue ah ok that makes sense. thanks for taking the time to explain that
16:57 tcohen atheia: do u prefer Atheia or A.?
17:01 atheia tcohen: Atheia is good, thanks for asking!
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17:05 cait atheia: don't you prefer Alex?
17:05 cait i think tcohen was aksing for the list of contributors .)
17:06 tcohen if you look at the about page in Koha, you will notice "A. ..."
17:06 tcohen i thought it was worth fixing
17:08 atheia :-) tcohen, cait, I see, yeah, in which case A. Sassmannshausen or Alex Sassmannshausen is better.
17:10 tcohen atheia: you're not answering the question :-D
17:11 atheia tcohen: really?
17:11 wahanui really is more trouble than she's worth.
17:11 atheia Wait… is it about what the A. stands for?
17:11 atheia In which case — definitely not Atheia :-)
17:11 tcohen about says A., the question was if you prefered Alex instead
17:12 atheia Yes — OK, definitely Alex.
17:12 atheia Did I pass? Did I answer the question? ;-)
17:13 tcohen atheia: yeah, you seem to pass the Turing test now :-P
17:14 atheia Phew — that was close :-)
17:14 atheia Speak later!
17:16 Joubu atheia: you should choose another first name, what about Bob?
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17:31 tcohen Joubu: :-P
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18:01 Joubu @later tell mveron I will provide patches tomorrow for the other C4::Dates stuffs
18:01 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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18:11 Joubu bye #koha
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18:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14735: Save cache_expiry on modifying a report <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]92d714e3389ea057e> / Bug 7895: Test for PSGI-related env to report in about.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1e40285ee06fdcb14> / Bug 15011: koha-indexer should define the --pidfiles on starting the daemon <http://git.koha-communi
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19:20 gaetan_B bye
19:29 cait khall_away: around?
19:33 magnuse probably not, if that nick is to be trusted ;-)
19:34 cait pff
19:34 cait don't ever trust an away nick :)
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19:37 Frey50 Hello everyone
19:38 Frey50 I got a problem
19:38 Frey50 im trying to migrate some records to a new server
19:38 Frey50 but somehow field 100 changes to Frey50
19:39 Frey50 and im loosing the author information
19:43 cait huh
19:43 cait are you using marc21 or unimarc?
19:45 Frey50 marc21
19:45 Frey50 on both servers
19:46 cait hm
19:46 cait you don't have a marc modification template active on import... do you?
19:46 Frey50 marcflavour Interpret and store MARC records in the Marc21 format.
19:47 Frey50 no sir
19:47 cait which version of koha?
19:47 wahanui which version of koha are you using?
19:48 cait i found: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1830
19:48 huginn Bug 1830: normal, P3, ---, henridamien, CLOSED REMIND, "frey50" after conversion
19:51 cait to me it sounds a ibt like a mixup with unimarc, because of system preferences UNIMARCAuthorityField  and UNIMARCField100Language
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19:57 Frey50 3.20.05.000
19:57 Frey50 and 3.18.04.000
19:58 cait Frey50: try to empty out thos 2 sysprefs
19:58 cait hm also make sure you chose marc21 on import... and.. hm
19:59 Frey50 just empty?
19:59 cait for as tart yes
20:00 Frey50 give me a sec
20:01 Frey50 done
20:02 Frey50 what else?
20:03 cait hm no more ideas right now :
20:04 Frey50 so
20:05 Frey50 should i try another import?
20:05 cait yes please
20:06 Frey50 and it will duplicate records?
20:07 cait hmyeah if you just import again it probably would
20:07 cait can you undo your first import?
20:09 Frey50 how?
20:09 cait fi you used the staged marc import tool
20:10 cait and you go to your batch and click on it.. ther is an undo option
20:10 cait don't confuse with the clean option
20:11 Frey50 what would happen if i click on clean?
20:12 cait it deletes the information about the import batch - and then i can't be undone
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20:44 Frey50 guys
20:44 Frey50 it worked
20:44 Frey50 but now i got another problem
20:45 Frey50 not showing results on opac
20:52 Frey50 nor staff client
20:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15097: Update MARC21 de-DE frameworks to Update 21 (September 2015) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]645286a70111dd305>
20:57 cait Frey50: it's really weird
20:57 cait it still points to a unimarc/marc21 problem for me
20:57 cait can you try switching the marcflavour from mac21 to unimarc and back? (turn it on and off again...?)
20:58 Frey50 ok
21:00 Frey50 nope
21:00 Frey50 not working
21:01 cait hmpf
21:02 cait the idea is that unimarc title is 200 and marc21 is 245
21:02 cait so not seeing something useful in results could be related to that, after the first problem you had
21:04 mveron Joubu, thanks for taking care for Bug 14946. I tested, however the date filtesr for invoices do not work, other things from test plan work OK.
21:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14946 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from files acqui/*.pl
21:08 Frey50 and how can i fix it?
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21:18 dcook eythian: It turns out that thing I was talking about was a bug in YAZ
21:19 dcook 'Yep. The "local r=r or r=o" does not take precedence over the outer one. That's a bug in YAZ. It's been fixed and is part of next release of YAZ - version 5.15.0.'
21:19 dcook Of course, I'm only using YAZ 5.1.2... not sure what the default is in Debian but imagine it's low too..
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21:31 Francesca morning
21:42 eythian hi
21:42 wahanui privet, eythian
21:42 Francesca sup
21:55 mveron Bug 14946 works :-)
21:55 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14946 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from files acqui/*.pl
21:55 mveron ..and is signed-off.
21:56 mveron Joubu ^
21:58 * cait waves
22:02 * mveron waves
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22:23 * dcook waves to the Europeans
22:23 dcook Also eythian :p
22:24 eythian give it a couple of weeks
22:26 dcook Who wha?
22:26 wahanui wha are you playing?
22:27 dcook And Debian is so close to 2.0.60..
22:28 dcook Doesn't look like there is any changes to the YAZ version in any version
22:49 cait dcook++ # mailinglist
22:50 dcook :)
22:51 dcook I've been beating myself up this year over not contributing much in terms of signs offs or patches... but hopefully mailing list and Zebra contributions have helped a bit
22:52 eythian crikey, I sure have a lot of cait-induced bug mail this morning :)
22:52 cait my last chances...
22:53 cait I was working with tcohen on some clean-up for the release notes
22:53 cait hopefully polishing bug titles a bit and changing modules
22:53 eythian ah yep
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22:58 brick добрый вечер! есть ли русскоговорящие? нужна помощь
22:59 cait good evening
22:59 wahanui evening is the time of day we all look forward too
22:59 cait my russian is too rusty, i am sorry
22:59 brick ok
23:00 cait you need help?
23:00 brick my english is bad =)
23:00 brick im install koha on ubuntu 14/04 from deb
23:03 brick and backup mysql from work instance with old koha? but on new server 3/20/05 zebra not work
23:03 eythian first try running "sudo service koha-common restart"
23:04 brick it indexing, but in opac not any search
23:04 brick not help =)
23:04 eythian also, "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -v --full libraryname"
23:04 eythian (replace "libraryname" with your instance name.)
23:05 brick its too
23:05 brick Нет никаких результатов, чтобы отвечали Вашему поиску 'kw,wrdl: пушкин'
23:06 eythian hmm
23:06 eythian that usually either means that nothing is indexed, or zebra is not running.
23:06 eythian is there a zebrasrv process on the server?
23:06 brick koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f db exporting biblio Records exported: 3429 Records exported: 0
23:07 brick ps aux db-koha  32724  0.0  0.4 113316  4732 ?        S    23:04   0:00 zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/db/koha-...
23:08 eythian hrm
23:08 dcook It's worth tailing that Zebra log if there is a log...
23:08 eythian that is all as I'd expect
23:08 eythian yeah
23:09 eythian though, it's pretty quiet generally. but maybe something is there.
23:09 brick mayby how on old version? edit /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/word-phrase-utf.chr
23:09 brick #lowercase {0-9}{a-z}абвгґдеэєжзіїийклмнопрстуфхцчшщьыъюяёў #uppercase {0-9}{A-Z}АБВГҐДЕЭЄЖЗІЇИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЬЫЪЮЯЁЎ
23:09 eythian I don't know much about that side of things. dcook is the expert there :)
23:11 brick in new version it don't work =(
23:14 brick or disable DOM?
23:16 eythian I don't know
23:16 eythian I'm not much of a zebra expert, especially non-english-language installs.
23:16 eythian It might be good to ask on the Koha mailing list.
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23:17 eythian hallo papa
23:17 brick im read it, but nothing for 3.18+
23:17 papa hi there!
23:18 * dcook gets back from the phone
23:18 eythian brick: you probably should ask, there are people there who know how zebra works better than I do.
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23:27 brick eythian, thank you
23:27 eythian np, hope you get it sorted out
23:46 brick mmm on old server unimark, on new instance is mark21 =)
23:49 eythian that will have weird results
23:49 eythian probably very weird
23:53 dcook Such weird results
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23:56 dcook brick: That would almost undoubtedly be a major source of your problems

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