IRC log for #koha, 2015-10-09

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01:56 wizzyrea I might!
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03:00 eythian <-- is down :/
03:02 wizzyrea boo
03:02 wizzyrea ping gmcharlt
03:02 cdickinson right in time for beer o'clock
03:02 eythian yeah, I think so. the wiki has instructions to fix a problem I'm having.
03:03 eythian I wrote the instructions, but can't remember the fix.
03:03 * eythian gives up and shuts down everything.
03:03 wizzyrea what problem?
03:03 wahanui
03:03 eythian a zebra config problem
03:03 wizzyrea oh. Yeah, no idea. a thing I'd have to look up too.
03:05 eythian I don't know how to turn my computer off
03:05 eythian this isn't a thing that normally happens
03:06 eythian ah, meta-shift-g will log me out.
03:06 eythian that's a start.
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04:10 DeZzA Hey is anyone else having problems connecting to the apt repository? I'm getting W: Failed to fetch http://debian.koha-community.o[…]ueeze/Release.gpg  Unable to connect to
04:18 DeZzA Ah never mind - looks like there's a server issue since the wiki is also down
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06:22 marcelr hi #koha
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06:36 * magnuse waves
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06:48 igor hi everyone, is anybody able to reach today ? I can't.
06:53 dojobo <dojobo> @isitdown
06:53 dojobo <zoia> dojobo: It's not just you!
06:53 dojobo (bot in another channel :)
06:53 igor the same with
06:54 igor @dojobo : thanks
06:54 huginn igor: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
06:54 dojobo i don't know any detail re: it being down though
06:54 dojobo huginn, ha
06:54 huginn dojobo: downloading the Perl source
06:55 igor huginn: ok, thanks
06:55 huginn igor: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
06:56 Joubu o/
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07:01 * ashimema always enjoys reading back in the morning... kinda wish i was in a different timezone sometimes.. rangi, eythian.. liw (thought he was this side of the world though )
07:01 ashimema morning all
07:01 magnuse hiya ashimema
07:02 ashimema hi magnuse
07:02 ashimema if i moved timezone i lose you lot though
07:02 magnuse so you don't think us europeans are cool enough, eh`
07:02 magnuse s/`/?/
07:02 ashimema double edge sword.. the whole community are cool.. :)
07:03 ashimema though we could sometime do with 'how to work together' lessons ;)
07:03 magnuse hehe
07:03 magnuse ooh, nobel peace price announcement in a couple hours!
07:03 * ashimema best go cook breakfast before his girls starve ;)
07:04 ashimema :)
07:04 liw ashimema, I have been summoned to declare that I am in the UTC+3 (Finland) time zone
07:04 magnuse sounds like a good idea
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07:13 magnuse @wunder helsinki
07:13 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is -1.0°C (9:50 AM EEST on October 09, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
07:13 magnuse ooh, cold!
07:13 magnuse @wunder boo
07:13 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 09, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
07:14 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:14 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 14.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on October 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
07:14 magnuse @wunder thessaloniki
07:14 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 18.0°C (9:50 AM EEST on October 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
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07:18 Francesca @wunder wlg
07:18 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on October 09, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
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07:23 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha
07:24 * magnuse sends Francesca get-well-soon biscuits
07:24 Francesca mmm thanks magnuse
07:24 magnuse @later tell rangi have you considered bug 13791 for 3.20.x?
07:24 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
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07:26 gaetan_B hello
07:26 Francesca hi
07:26 wahanui niihau, Francesca
07:34 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B
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07:37 magnuse gah 266 bugs need signoff
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07:42 Joubu eythian: not around I guess?
07:46 ashimema not far off uk time then liw
07:46 ashimema just a night owl last night ;)
07:47 liw aye
07:48 ashimema would be awesome to see you at a hackfest.. sounds perfect for that sprint you were talking about? :)
07:48 liw yeah, hackfest and sprint are synonymous here
07:54 ashimema I tend to think of sprints as not necessarily being in person.. but hackfest being a face to face gathering :)
07:55 ashimema ythough that doesn't  always follow ;)
07:56 Francesca its nearly 9pm here in nz
07:57 liw sprint is a bit overloaded as a term
07:57 liw let's pretend I said hackfest :)
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07:58 liw basically, for working on something like Koha Debian packaging, getting me and eythian and possibly rangi and also anyone else interested in a room for a few days would be the thing I'm thinking of; however, eythian seems to be taking good care of things, so probably not necessary as such
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07:58 liw but I hope other people than eythian understand the packaging and participate in its maintenance, 'cause it's useful that it's not just one person
07:59 magnuse so very true!
08:02 ashimema we deffo need to spread the load there a bit :)
08:03 ashimema having said that.. I have a real love/hate relationship for the packages.  It does make using some newer modules somewhat challening ;) (Mojolicious + Swagger2 plugin being a prime example)
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08:13 Joubu in 10 bugs we will reach 15k bug reports!
08:13 Joubu just opened 14990
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08:19 magnuse ooh, who will add number 15k, and what will it be?
08:20 marcelr still some numbers to go..
08:24 ashimema not sure whether to celebrate or cry at that one
08:26 magnuse celebrate, definitely
08:26 magnuse a known bug is better than an unknown bug
08:26 magnuse and those numbers encompass enhancements and new features too!
08:27 magnuse the number we can cry about is 267 in the nso queue
08:27 ashimema indeed
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08:28 Joubu you can cry when you see the number of patches in the NSO queue
08:29 Joubu ho, I though magnuse was repeating all what I said, but actually it's me, my IRC client has a terrible lag!
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08:39 clrh bugzilla is KO ?
08:41 magnuse clrh: yeah, people have been complaining for a while...
08:41 magnuse oh no, that was the wiki
08:42 magnuse bugzilla works for me, clrh
08:42 clrh it comes back ;)
08:43 clrh thx magnuse
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08:57 igor is it ok if I'm asking a question about a problem while testing koha 3.20.04 in a debian environment, locally ?
09:00 putti Joubu, bug 13618, are you going to push the latest patch also to bugzilla? I don't remember anymore what was the deal with the remote branch.
09:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13618 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC
09:01 Joubu putti: the deal was: I update it if someone tests it
09:01 Joubu nobody tests it, so I have not updated it yet for a while
09:01 putti Joubu, umm, test it by fetching it from Github first?
09:02 putti I can test it now.
09:03 Joubu yes, the newest patches are on the remote branch
09:03 Joubu but it won't rebase against master without conflicts
09:03 putti Okay. Now I should figure out how to apply a patch from github.
09:03 putti Joubu, Any tips?
09:04 Joubu putti: just checkout the branch
09:05 Joubu git remote add joubus_repo url_github_repo; git fetch joubus_repo; git checkout xxx joubus_repo/remote_branch
09:05 putti Joubu, and if it works in that version, I pass a green flag for you and you will import the patches to github?
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09:05 putti s/github/bugzilla
09:05 Joubu putti: don't test it without I have rebased it, I will try now and see if it's easy or not
09:06 putti Joubu, alright, let me now when you're ready :)
09:06 igor I have installed koha in debian jessie, using the stable canal : debian.koha-community/koha stable. When I want to set permissions for a patron who will be a superlibrarian, I can't see any permissions on the permissions page, in the koha intranet. I get this :[…]s/MYZyY6IMUkrjUTr
09:06 igor In the log, I can read the following error : Use of uninitialized value $roadtype in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi​-bin/members/ line 176
09:07 igor It looks like bug 14136 :[…]_bug.cgi?id=14136
09:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14136 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, RESOLVED INVALID, Remove superfluous template parameters from members/
09:07 huginn Bug 14136: minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, RESOLVED INVALID, Remove superfluous template parameters from members/
09:07 marcelr Joubu: bug 14544 looks quite good, but still be prepared for some adjustments..
09:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move the list related code to Koha::Virtualshelves
09:07 igor I tried to apply the patch attached to that bug, but with no change.
09:11 igor so, I'm trying to understand what is $roadtype for
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09:14 Joubu putti: you can fetch and checkout!
09:14 putti Cool
09:14 putti Will do it in a bit
09:14 Joubu marcelr: thanks for qaing it! :)
09:15 marcelr this was quite some work..
09:15 marcelr developing i mean
09:15 Joubu yes it was
09:15 Joubu the hardest part was to understand the current code :)
09:15 marcelr i am only afraid that more testing still reveals some problems..
09:16 marcelr not big ones
09:16 Joubu yes there are certainly some small things
09:17 Joubu but I have tested it quite largely, BibLibre's team did too, and I imagine you did it as well
09:17 Joubu you know well this area, I am sure you have tested lot of configuration with the perms :)
09:17 Joubu and... there are tests!
09:17 marcelr good
09:17 Joubu That's why I am quite confident with it
09:18 marcelr i'm just preparing you for some adjustments :)
09:19 * Joubu is crossing his fingers
09:23 mveron wiki?
09:23 wahanui wiki is
09:24 mveron ...seems to be down...
09:25 marcelr hi mveron
09:25 mveron hi marcelr  :-)
09:25 marcelr the dates expert
09:25 marcelr :)
09:25 mveron ...and hi everybody
09:26 marcelr mveron: how much dates to go yet?
09:26 * mveron has dreams from C4::Dates
09:26 marcelr yeah
09:26 marcelr sometimes you start something and then..
09:26 mveron marcelr: I think there are about 10 -15 files left (from more than 90)
09:27 marcelr mveron++
09:27 mveron I hope we will make it for the next release, including the date pref
09:29 magnuse mveron++
09:29 mveron :-)
09:36 magnuse kia ora khall
09:36 khall mornin magnuse!
09:39 marcelr hi khall
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09:40 khall mornin marcelr!
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09:48 mveron Hi khall!
09:48 khall mornin mveron!
09:49 mveron ...oh, it's lunchtime...
09:56 putti Joubu, the latest xss patch didn't fix the news issue
09:56 putti Joubu, The html is still plain text
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09:59 putti Joubu, wait, not sure if the patch did apply correctly to my git.
10:06 Joubu putti: you don't have to "apply" the patch, but to checkout the branch
10:06 Joubu git show-branch HEAD origin/master
10:06 putti Joubu, It applied correctly. The problem was just that I was thinking that you changed another feature (the intra's front page's rendering problem).
10:06 Joubu should tell you on what you are
10:07 putti so the still has the rendering problem
10:13 putti Joubu, can you add that patch too?
10:15 Joubu putti: done
10:15 Joubu I have forced update
10:18 putti Joubu, what do you mean with it "change the prototype of this subroutine to make it get a hashref"? What would the change be
10:18 putti bug 14711
10:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14711 minor, P5 - low, ---, j.kylmala, In Discussion , We do no longer need bibitems in AddReserve
10:19 Joubu putti: the_subroutine($param1, $param2, ..., $paramN) => the_subroutine({ param1 => $param1, ..., paramN => $paramN })
10:20 khall is the community wiki down?
10:21 putti bugzilla was about half an hour ago.
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11:34 mveron Hi agein everybody
11:34 mveron again
11:35 mveron Hmm, wiki seems still to be down...
11:35 mveron wiki?
11:35 wahanui it has been said that wiki is
11:35 mveron @wunder allschwil
11:35 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 15.0°C (1:30 PM CEST on October 09, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
11:40 igor yes the wiki is down, so is
11:47 mveron thanks, igor :-)
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11:49 igor mveron: by the way, I'm situated just the opposite side of CH : Geneva :)
11:50 mveron Ah, great, there are not to much kohanians in Switzerland...
11:50 igor and I'm trying to test koha, that's why I've noticed that wiki and debian.koha-community are down...
11:51 igor I'm working at the geneva fachhochschule, in the librarian dept.
11:55 marcelr Joubu++ # 14544
11:55 mveron igor: I'm located near Basel (Allschwil)
11:57 igor mveron : I've guessed it form the meteo... ;)
11:57 igor mveron: s/meteo/weather/
11:57 mveron @wundwe geneva
11:57 huginn mveron: downloading the Perl source
11:57 mveron @wunder geneva
11:57 huginn mveron: Error: No such location could be found.
11:58 mveron @wunder geneve
11:58 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Geneva, Switzerland is 15.0°C (1:50 PM CEST on October 09, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
11:58 igor mveron: thanks,
11:58 mveron :-)
12:02 igor mveron: did you see my question this morning ? I've problems when settings permissions : none of them are displayed... It looks a bit like bug 14136. I'm using koha 3.20.04
12:02 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14136 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, RESOLVED INVALID, Remove superfluous template parameters from members/
12:03 * mveron ...reads back
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12:20 jcamins magnuse: is November a good time to vacation in Oslo?
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12:31 tcohen morning
12:37 magnuse jcamins: might be. i would recommend july, but you can get lucky and have beautiful weather in november too
12:37 magnuse why, are you thinking of making the trip?
12:37 magnuse november is tricksy, it can be really cold or really foggy and wet or beautiful
12:39 magnuse[…]o/statistics.html
12:40 jcamins magnuse: I think we might travel in November.
12:41 jcamins And Oslo was suggested as being affordable.
12:41 jcamins (flight-wise)
12:43 mveron Igor: Do you have Authorized values for ROADTYPE?  (Home > Administration > Authorized values, then the dropdown Show category)
12:44 igor mveron: no, I did look there, and there's no roadtype in the dropdown list.
12:44 tcohen did my dev meeting email reach the list?
12:45 igor mveron: I found it weird.
12:49 jcamins tcohen: I saw it.
12:49 magnuse jcamins: awesome!
12:49 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, magnuse
12:49 mveron igor: It is just a guess: Define there a category ROADTYPE (upper case) and add some values. Then edit the patron who should get the permissios, and set the roadtype (here street type) in Details > Edit
12:50 mveron igor: Then try to set th permissions for ths user.
12:51 igor mveron: Ok, I'm going to try this. But what kind of value I can use ? Something like "avenue" "street" and so on ?
12:51 mveron Whatever you want.
12:55 igor mveron: It doesn't work for me. I set a value for ROADTYPE and edit my patron. Then I set the permissions for this patrons, but still get that empty list.
12:56 mveron igor:Your screenshot wasin French. English as well?
12:56 igor mveron: yes, no difference
12:57 gmcharlt wiki back up
12:58 pastebot "igor" at pasted "logs when setting permissions for a patron" (11 lines) at
12:59 igor is up also
13:01 mveron igor:Any warnings on About > Koha, tab "System infornation"?
13:01 magnuse gmcharlt++
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13:03 igor mveron: the one that I'm still using the admin database user... and about setting active currency
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13:15 igor mveron: I also have some missing but optional perl modules : HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench (0.73) and Test::DBIx::Class (0.42). And this one to be upgraded : Test::WWW::Mechanize (1.44)
13:17 mveron igor:If they are all optional it should be OK.
13:17 igor mveron: maybe I should downgrade to oldstable...
13:20 mveron Wait...
13:21 mveron Igor:Did you create just one patron?
13:22 igor mveron: no, i have two patrons, both in the staff category, both have a value for ROADTYPE
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13:22 mario gooood moorrning bywater
13:22 mario and koha
13:22 mario :)
13:22 mveron Hi mario :-)
13:23 igor mveron: one should be superlibrarian, the other a librarian. I'm just at the begining of the setting of my koha libary
13:23 mario hi mveron :)
13:27 xarragon_ If you want to add a web-accessible script that might be called from both OPAC and Intranet, is there a special directory for that? Seems to be a 'services' directory, is that mapped to the apache web tree?
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13:48 mveron igor: Just a guess: Log out, log in again with the database user, create a new patron with minimal information (name login, pw), try to set superlibrarian permission for this user.
13:51 igor mveron: ok
13:53 igor mveron: unsuccessful... :(
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13:57 igor mveron: I tried to delete my 3 patrons, log out, log in, recreate the new patron with minimal infos... and still unable to sel permissions. I'm always with the english interface now.
14:05 mveron igor:Can you send the problem description to the general mailing list?
14:05 mveron[…]ha-mailing-lists/
14:06 mveron
14:07 igor mveron: yes, I can and I will :)
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14:11 igor mveron: and thank you for your help and your time !
14:11 mveron igor: Welcome :-)
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14:33 tcohen the university is kicking nginx out of our infrastructure
14:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14925: (QA followup) tidy code block <[…]26a8cb7ac6423dcb7> / Bug 14925: Remove C4::Dates from members/ <[…]f11a8ea7f359cdd0a> / Bug 14928: Remove C4::Dates from files acqui/pdfformat/layout*.pm <
14:41 igor mveron: mail is sent, now I've got to go. Have a nice week-end !
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14:41 mveron igor: The same to you!
14:44 tcohen @seen cjh
14:44 huginn tcohen: cjh was last seen in #koha 42 weeks, 0 days, 13 hours, 58 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <cjh> hahha
14:45 tcohen @later tell cjh if you are ever back here, thanks for pushing the koha-gitify fix
14:45 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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15:12 ashimema wow.. 42 weeks ago
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15:47 tcohen ashimema: have you noticed the existence of C4::InstallAuth ?
15:47 tcohen I think it is part of your MM responsibilities :-P
15:47 tcohen it seems to be plack-unfriendly
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15:50 nitz0 hi koha
15:54 ashimema i had't
15:54 ashimema will look over weekend
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15:59 kchris_away If a language isn't available in the I18N/L10N preferences but has been installed, can anyone recommend a troubleshooting step?
16:34 nitz0 It's possible to log outgoing emails in koha?
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17:16 Joubu have a good w-e #koha
17:17 tcohen bye Joubu!
17:32 tcohen @later tell cait I'd appreciate your QA POV on 14402
17:32 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
17:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12368: Die if the --table value is not allowed. <[…]b96556b9e7bb11f85> / Bug 12368: Rebuild Zebra improvement: allow to specify a DB table <[…]357d87f9077347d75> / Bug 13805: (Plack) Disable syspref cache <;
17:54 tcohen bye #koha, have a nice weekend
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21:27 mveron Good day-and-night #koha
21:27 mveron (Koha never sleeps...)
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21:33 tcohen hi
21:33 wahanui que tal, tcohen
21:33 tcohen wahanui: muy bien :-D
21:33 wahanui tcohen: sorry...
21:36 Francesca what is muy bien
21:39 tcohen "very well"
21:39 tcohen que tal => how are you doing?
21:43 Francesca ah
21:45 mveron hector: Bug 13642
21:45 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13642 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Signed Off , Adding new features for Dublin Core metadata
21:46 tcohen barton: 14727
21:48 barton looking
21:48 barton bug 14727
21:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14727 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-indexer tab completion in bash
21:50 barton tcohen: sweeet -- but I'm about to head out the door for a three day weekend :-P.
21:50 tcohen heh, same here!
21:51 Francesca lucky
21:51 tcohen holiday next monday
21:51 barton I'll leave a note for pianohacker when he gets off of his DND time.
21:51 barton should be a 5 minut signoff.
22:02 hector thanks mveron
22:04 hector well, time to go home, greetings fellows
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