IRC log for #koha, 2015-06-18

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00:36 mtompset @seen Joubu
00:36 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 day, 7 hours, 7 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <Joubu> have a good evening #koha
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03:05 AmitG hi indradg
03:05 indradg hiya AmitG
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03:47 mtompset So, Amit. I noticed you are a bug wrangler.
03:56 mtompset @later tell dcook bug 14393 is interesting, but that looks like a half-day to test well. Care to fly continents to babysit? ;)
03:56 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
03:57 mtompset Greetings, AmitG. I noticed you are a bug wrangler.
04:07 mtompset Have a good night, #koha indradg
04:07 indradg gnight mtompset
04:08 mtompset Oops... day (24 hour period)... Yes, I do need sleep.
05:30 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
05:30 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 12.8°C (5:30 PM NZST on June 18, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
05:30 cdickinson whoo, it's not freezing
05:40 indradg @karma
05:40 huginn indradg: Highest karma: "cait" (238), "Joubu" (191), and "tcohen" (187).  Lowest karma: "ie" (-21), "MARC" (-15), and "-" (-13).  You (indradg) are ranked 26 out of 429.
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05:53 bag @weather 97215
05:53 huginn bag: The current temperature in Kittyland Love Center, E Tabor, Portland, Oregon is 18.9°C (10:53 PM PDT on June 17, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
05:53 bag @wunder 97215
05:53 huginn bag: The current temperature in Kittyland Love Center, E Tabor, Portland, Oregon is 18.9°C (10:53 PM PDT on June 17, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
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06:45 reiveune hello
06:45 wahanui que tal, reiveune
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06:51 BobB Kittyland Love Centre?
06:51 BobB bag this channel has a G rating  :)
06:53 BobB @wunder Sydney, Australia
06:53 huginn BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 14.0°C (4:30 PM AEST on June 18, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
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06:58 alex_a bonjour
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07:06 cait morning #koha
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07:17 fridolin hie
07:17 cait hi fridolin
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07:22 gaetan_B hello
07:22 wahanui kia ora, gaetan_B
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07:31 cait morning Joubu :)
07:31 Joubu Good morning #koha
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07:47 cait morning ashimema
07:49 ashimema morning cait
07:50 ashimema just reading up on pianohackers conversation last night..
07:50 ashimema those circ changes sound interesting.
07:52 ashimema sounds rather ambitious though..
07:52 ashimema I'd be tempted to just get inline editing or modal box editing in place first..
07:52 ashimema that would make a world of difference for that UI
07:53 ashimema completely reworkign the circ rules system sounds like a massive challenge
07:54 cait I agree
07:54 cait that plus an option to sort the columns would already reach far
07:56 ashimema yeah.. the sorting is an interesting one..
07:58 ashimema also, floating the table headers
07:58 ashimema and reducing their size somewhat..
07:58 ashimema would all help
07:58 cait yep
07:59 ashimema even on my 30" screen the matrix fill the browser
07:59 cait floating would be awesome - also for the patron category/itype... or an option to hide columsn you don't (just for display)
07:59 ashimema I imagine for most they now have to scroll left and right allot
07:59 ashimema allot cuold be acheived just by making that talbe more managable..
07:59 * cait nods
08:00 cait yeah
08:00 ashimema I actually like being able to see the whole rule at a glance ocasionally
08:00 cait both should be possible i think
08:00 ashimema agreed
08:00 cait iw as just thinking if i have to check the overdue behaviour... i'd just want to look at grace period, fine, interval etc.
08:01 cait thinking along the lines i do it in mysql :)
08:01 ashimema indeed..
08:01 ashimema well.. I've done the table work before to get out cash man stuff..
08:01 ashimema those two styles.. inline editing and modal editing..
08:01 ashimema it wouldn't be hard for someone with the time to copy that code and apply it to the circ matrix ;)
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08:13 cait time is the problem there i think
08:13 cait :(
08:16 cait Joubu++ # QA
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08:24 drojf morning #koha
08:27 cait morning drojf
08:28 drojf hi cait
08:34 ashimema it's tomas's birthday today aint it?
08:35 drojf irc topics don't lie :)
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08:37 ashimema oh yeah.. didn't see it i the topic
08:37 ashimema :)
08:38 drojf ashimema: i came across[…]iver/KohaRest.php do you know if that is the latest version or there is a better place to get it?
08:38 ashimema pretty sure that's the latest.
08:39 ashimema athea is the man to ask
08:39 drojf great, thank you
08:41 ashimema yup..
08:41 ashimema he's says that's the latest..
08:41 ashimema I'll poke him to get his butt back on here in cae you have an questions ;)
08:43 drojf thanks :) i'll try it some time soon. the old koha driver was not really that great, thanks for not making me write my own :D
09:11 Joubu cait: do you agree that 10449 is a bug?
09:12 cait phone conf - bbl
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09:55 indradg Joubu: where was the qa fail in bug 14368? line 103 on
09:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14368 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Failed QA , Add discharges history
09:56 indradg or as well?
10:02 Joubu Discharge.{pm,pl,tt} :)
10:05 cait back
10:05 cait bug 10449
10:05 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10449 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, In Discussion , Suggestions pending approval should count only suggestions of current branch
10:06 cait Joubu: hm maybe in the tey zone, but have no problem to mark it as a bug
10:08 cait hm whatever you think is best
10:08 * fridolin lost on this bug
10:09 fridolin i'll do what you want
10:09 cait heh
10:09 cait i had a library 'complaining' abot the current behaviour
10:10 cait because you click on ti and end up on your tab... so the sum doesn't match up
10:10 cait hm you see the number for ALL
10:10 Joubu fridolin: I think that what cait wants is that what your current patch does.
10:10 cait and then you see the number for YOUR BRANCH
10:10 cait and they are different
10:10 cait that irritates them
10:11 Joubu cait: so maybe we need 2 numbers on the mainpage :)
10:12 cait but then we still need to see where to count the ones without a branch
10:12 cait basically what do we want to show of: my branches, other branches, no branch suggestions?
10:20 cait maybe: x at your branch (y total) suggestions to manage?
10:20 cait and in the total are the ones without branch?
10:23 fridolin cool
10:23 fridolin cait: good idea yes
10:44 Joubu cait: don't you think bug 13972 is more a bug than an enh?
10:44 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13972 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Include fields from subscription and serial table in serial notification email
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11:06 cait Joubu: hm - not sure - could argue for both i guess - it should probably have worked like that from the beginning (if you asked me :) )
11:07 Joubu yes, it's probably a bug from the beginning :)
11:08 cait i am glad you didn't found something to fail me for :P
11:08 cait ...didn't find
11:08 Joubu the only thing is that you use a different way that the one use for "claimissues"/"claimorders"
11:09 cait oh
11:09 cait ah
11:09 Joubu so there are 2 different ways to do the same thing in the same subroutine
11:09 cait yeah that uses an sql
11:09 cait but it seemed cleaner like htat
11:09 cait i am currentlyworking on the claims actually... as the order email i want to do is very similar to a claim order
11:09 Joubu yes, that's why I didn't fail it :)
11:10 cait but i am not sure about rewriting all of it the other way - it will make it much bigger
11:11 cait i hope i will ahve sth to show soon
11:11 cait so then we can discuss on how to improve :)
11:12 cait i have sth kind of working, but it needs lots more tweaking before submission :(
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13:58 tcohen morning
13:59 tcohen cait: i don't think so
14:01 alex_a hello tcohen
14:01 tcohen hi alex_a
14:07 indradg hi tcohen alex_a
14:07 alex_a hi indradg
14:09 tcohen hi indradg
14:10 * indradg waves
14:10 nengard hi all
14:11 indradg hi nengard
14:12 drojf hi tcohen. and happy birthday!
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14:23 Shane-S it it easy to export an item(s) from on Koha install and copy to another? I asked about sharing yesterday, and thought about it, probably better to copy what I need and maintain it separately in my own install.
14:24 Shane-S I just need to get out my 400 electronic devices from the initial library install and use the packages to make a new library just for my stuff
14:32 kivilahtio Have a great midsummer party Kohasters!
14:32 kivilahtio I know I will!
14:46 indradg Joubu++
14:46 indradg for codespell
14:47 Joubu indradg: I hope it won't be too anoying, but I think it's worth to try :)
14:50 tcohen thanks drojf
14:51 tcohen hi Joubu
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14:56 bgkriegel hola
14:57 tcohen Joubu++ # codespell
14:57 tcohen hi bgkriegel!
14:58 bgkriegel Hi tcohen, and HB!! :)
14:59 tcohen thanks :D
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15:32 * drojf puts a bowl of fresh cherries on the table
15:35 reiveune bye
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15:39 * drojf cross-checks
15:39 * drojf puts a bowl of chocolate on the table
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16:03 gaetan_B bye
16:06 Joubu bgkriegel: Could you please stop to fill the QA queue indefinitely?!
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16:09 mtompset @seen Joubu
16:09 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 minutes and 31 seconds ago: <Joubu> bgkriegel: Could you please stop to fill the QA queue indefinitely?!
16:10 * mtompset grins.
16:10 bgkriegel :)
16:11 mtompset I'm guessing you don't want me passing #2, bgkriegel? ;)
16:11 bgkriegel Hi mtompset
16:12 mtompset Joubu: I don't understand what you don't understand on the bug 14362
16:12 bgkriegel No problem with that :)
16:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14362 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Failed QA , PEGI 15 Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers test fails
16:12 indradg someone is on a FQA roll  today ;-)
16:13 mtompset Ah, you're conscious, indradg. Greetings. :)
16:13 mtompset indradg: No, that particular bug is my bug, and Failed QA on personal bugs looks bad.
16:14 indradg hiya mtompset
16:15 mtompset The whole Date::Calc->Date_to_Days(Today) macro excludes the timezone on the date.
16:16 mtompset So, by grabbing the date from DateTime, and splitting it into a YMD array @Today, I fix the timezone shifting issue.
16:16 mtompset So, when I run something at 9pm EST, the 15 year old is 15 years old, and not 14.
16:18 Joubu mtompset: ok got it
16:19 Joubu but... 100 tests are necessary for that? :)
16:19 mtompset 120... yes, because we don't know what timezone the person testing it in is in.
16:20 mtompset And it isn't like I unrolled the loop. :P
16:21 mtompset Plus, just in case there are other subtle timezone shifts that I didn't catch, this was useful to do it that way.
16:21 Joubu mtompset: ok I will try to have a look again tomorrow. But it seems over complicated. We just need to compare 2 dates
16:21 mtompset Well, I suppose, yes. But I wanted to hit the underlying code where the problem is.
16:22 Joubu mtompset: DateTime manages TZ
16:22 mtompset Yes, which is why my patch uses DateTime to build the date.
16:22 mtompset Though, I'll add the PerlDependenct on Time::Fake.
16:22 Joubu But not to compare them
16:23 mtompset but I make just skip 120 tests if Time::Fake isn't installed.
16:24 mtompset ^make^may^
16:24 Joubu I am not sure it's a good idea to skip tests
16:26 mtompset Okay... 115 tests. Make it run like before if no Time::Fake.
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17:55 tcohen mtompset: hi
17:55 mtompset Greetings.
17:55 wahanui and beatings!
17:56 * mtompset frowns at wahanui.
18:02 indradg @wunder kolkata
18:02 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 29.0°C (11:20 PM IST on June 18, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling).
18:18 misilot did the opac change much from 3.16 to 3.18 bootstrap?
18:19 misilot nevermind bad javascript i think
18:25 mtompset indradg: bug 12137 -- since you complained about a failed to cleanly apply. :P
18:25 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Extend CalendarFirstDayOfWeek to be any day
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18:49 wnickc is there a reason that facet labels are constructed as titled variables all containing the value 1?
18:49 wnickc i.e. facet_loo.type_label_Authors = 1
18:49 wnickc instead of
18:49 wnickc facte_loo.type_label_name = Authors
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19:06 tcohen hi
19:06 wahanui hello, tcohen
19:11 tcohen heh, didn't see the irc topic before
19:11 tcohen thanks #koha
19:11 tcohen and thanks rangi
19:19 wnickc happy birthday!  if it is still today today
19:23 tcohen wnickc: thanks, it is
19:23 wnickc ah, translation can't translate template variables
19:24 wnickc :-) I am terrible at time zones and date lines
19:40 pianohacker feliz cumpleaños tcohen
19:48 tcohen gracias pianohacker!
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20:00 cait hm no tcohen
20:01 drojf (20:58:09) tcohen hat den Raum verlassen (quit: Quit: Leaving.).
20:01 drojf (21:00:05) cait [] hat den Raum betreten.
20:01 drojf timing is everything
20:01 cait hm?
20:01 drojf he left 2 minutes before you came in
20:01 cait gah.
20:42 rangi morning
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20:48 cait morning rangi, hi cdickinson :)
20:48 cdickinson Morning
20:49 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
20:49 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 13.1°C (8:40 AM NZST on June 19, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
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21:59 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
21:59 indradg hiya mtompset
21:59 mtompset @later tell tcohen Happy Birthday, on-time or belated. :)
21:59 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
21:59 mtompset indradg: Did you see my comment about bug 12137? ;)
21:59 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Extend CalendarFirstDayOfWeek to be any day
22:00 indradg aah yes
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22:11 wnickc hey mtompset, could I ask a favor?
22:11 mtompset No promises, but perhaps. :)
22:11 wnickc if you have a chance take a look at bug 14419
22:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14419 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, In Discussion , Expanding facets (Show more) performs a new search
22:12 * mtompset cringes.
22:12 wnickc I just need ot know if it is feasible
22:12 mtompset Facets are a scare beast.
22:12 mtompset scary, scary beast.
22:12 wnickc you're telling me
22:12 wnickc I have been sucked into a terrible rabbit hole
22:13 mtompset I stared into the soul of C4/
22:13 wnickc and just want to know if I go forwards or backwards
22:13 mtompset and I have been changed.
22:13 mtompset Abandon hope all who enter there!
22:13 wnickc hah, I felt like you might have been down this road, s'why I asked you
22:14 mtompset I did go down there related to hiding.
22:14 mtompset I still have a couple bugs to go back to.
22:14 mtompset The big problem is with people talking elastic search and this and that...
22:15 mtompset just avoid it. avoid it like the plague, unless you are working with those who are doing the search development.
22:16 wnickc :(
22:16 wnickc That was actually pretty much how I felt when I realized I was touching
22:19 eythian hi
22:19 wahanui bonjour, eythian
22:20 mtompset wnickc: Why the w?
22:20 mtompset Greetings, eythian.
22:21 wnickc ah, in my nick
22:22 wnickc mtompset: (William) Nicholas Clemens
22:23 wnickc never used the full name, but carry the w around
22:24 mtompset Ah, okay. Thanks. :)
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23:10 wnickc bye koha
23:33 rangi we should use more marc
23:33 wahanui http://02varvara.files.wordpre[…]no-bear.jpg?w=800
23:33 pianohacker rangi: I just dove into Koha's MARC authorities code, and that image is very timely
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23:42 pianohacker hi liz
23:42 liz sup
23:43 pianohacker just another crazy day in marc world. How are you?
23:44 liz just another crazy day with a post-op 7 year old :)
23:44 pianohacker oy. What happened?
23:44 liz (he's fine - it was minor)
23:45 pianohacker good :)
23:45 liz acknowledge watch of security bugs
23:46 liz (for the log)
23:46 liz oh, your patch for that problem with the sysprefs
23:46 liz pianohacker
23:46 wahanui pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems.
23:46 pianohacker yup yup
23:46 liz so, when I tested it
23:46 liz (as you might have read on the bug)
23:46 pianohacker (yes indeed)
23:46 liz I think it's better on('input') but ... maybe there's a reason not to do that?
23:47 pianohacker I'm just happy to see I'm not the only person who uses middle-click paste! I noticed that in my own testing and sighed and figured we'd have to live with it
23:47 pianohacker if 'input' catches that, I'd say it's the best choice
23:48 liz well tell you what I'll put a patch on there, and you can test it
23:48 pianohacker can do
23:48 pianohacker kudos, I had no idea that event existed
23:49 liz I might combine it with one of the others, because it's IE9+ (that's why I was feeling hesitant)
23:49 liz ^ this might be the only reason not to
23:50 liz but 9 is quite old now
23:51 pianohacker liz: honestly, for a staff-client-only patch, I don't think it's a blocker
23:51 pianohacker maybe 'input change' just so it'll vaguely work in <IE9?
23:51 pianohacker not as smooth, but something of a fallback
23:52 liz yeah screw it let's just give it a go

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