IRC log for #koha, 2015-05-14

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01:55 indradg__ wizzyrea: around?
01:55 wizzyrea ya, sup
01:56 indradg__ I was testing bug 14186, found the qa tools failing on a tab char.
01:56 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14186 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Failed QA , Noisy warns in
01:57 indradg__ so posted[…]g.cgi?id=14186#c4
01:57 huginn` Bug 14186: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Failed QA , Noisy warns in
01:57 wizzyrea yeah that's fine
01:57 indradg__ then I cleared out the tab and ready to upload the patch to bz
01:58 indradg__ wizzyrea: here's the question... since I corrected it, I shouldn't do the sign off? or can i?
01:58 wizzyrea that is a pretty minor thing, I'd just fix it or make it a follow up
01:58 wizzyrea or aleisha can, up to you I reckon
01:59 indradg__ ok... i know its minor... but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something "not done"... made a mess on my first day signing off
02:00 indradg__ so just being cautious :)
02:03 wizzyrea oh, everything is fixable ;)
02:18 eythian[…]36983184026_n.jpg <-- cdickinson
02:18 cdickinson oh my god
02:19 wizzyrea crazy wet here
02:21 BobB eythian I hope that's not the catalyst data centre :)
02:21 wizzyrea lol no
02:21 wizzyrea that's the train station
02:21 BobB hmm, trains might be late
02:22 BobB sure is a lot of water
02:22 wizzyrea trains are cancelled, the station is closed
02:23 cdickinson both the main highways out of Wellington are congested and partially closed
02:23 eythian https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akam[…]20a08662cd268fad5 <-- BobB, the multistorey building in the background is the catalyst data centre.
02:23 cdickinson only way to really get out of Wellington is to use local access roads
02:24 wizzyrea or ferry, or air :P
02:26 BobB wow, awesome
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04:36 mtompset Have a great day, #koha (bug 14076 for an easy sign off ;) )
04:36 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14076 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Noisy warns in
04:47 mtj_ hey #koha, i think i embedded a unicode character into a pdf, last nite
04:48 mtj_ which was a bit surprising, as i thought it was impossible(ish)
04:49 mtj_ this was the char i was experimenting with...
04:49 mtj_誦
04:51 mtj_ i pasted in into a LO spreadsheet file, then exported a pdf - and there it was?!
04:51 mtj_
04:51 mtj_
04:52 eythian oh, you did it from openoffice
04:52 eythian I think it'll embed the fonts it needs in there
04:52 eythian it's totally possible to put unicode in PDF, otherwise it would have died out years ago.
04:52 mtj_ hmm, actually it was OO, not LO.. yeah
04:53 eythian OO/LO, whichever :)
04:53 mtj_ heres the weird thing eythian... i was expecting to see some embedded fonts in the pdf - but there was not any
04:54 eythian /Type/FontDescriptor/FontName/CAAAAA+SimSun
04:55 eythian I don't know enough to tell if it's embedded, or if it's extracted just one character out, or something else though
04:56 mtj_ ah, i missed that ^ :)
04:56 mtj_ simsun might be a chinese ttf font :)
04:56 eythian it is
04:59 mtj_ ta
04:59 mtj_ i wonder how the unicode to ttf magic happens
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05:00 eythian I don't know the details, but fonts contain a list of the characters they have, so a program finds the closest (ideally) font that has a matching character.
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05:03 mtj_ hmm, yeah.. makes sense
05:04 mtj_ i was thinking that utf to  ttf  mapping is probably a bit fuzzy
05:06 mtj_ i wonder if LO/OO uses a separate library to do that stuff
05:08 eythian I expect there are system libraries for that. Maybe it's what things like fontconfig or defoma do.
05:09 eythian yeah, I think it's exactly what fontconfig does
05:25 mtj_ nice eythian
05:30 mtj_ i think it gives koha some possible solution for the 'labels.pdf wont display utf chars' bug
05:31 eythian yeah, it's totally possible to do, I think it's whether the stuff we use can actually do it.
05:35 mtj_ i guess the other catch is, the koha server would need a bunch of ttf fonts installed too
05:35 mtj_ it can embed them into the pdf
05:36 eythian yep
05:41 mtj_ the other option might be to dump the label rows to a csv file - then let LO's label writer tool, do the rest
05:41 mtj_ ..not perfect, but better that a corrupt pdf file
05:43 mtj_ anyhoo... its nice to realise there are some options :0)
05:45 mtj_ hey eythian, exciting news re: your hackrf board too
05:45 eythian yeah :) going to have to do some playing with it in the weekend
05:46 eythian yay, 3.20.00-beta packages built with no screwing around, that's always pleasant.
05:46 mtj_ you got an earlier board last year huh?
05:47 eythian I got a $10 dongle that's well worth the price, but limited in many ways.
05:47 eythian Also, the new one can transmit as well
05:47 mtj_ oh hum, i need to add those jessie patches to 3.16 branch too :/
05:48 mtj_ woah, do you have any info on the dongle?
05:49 eythian[…]k-rtl2832-wr820t/
05:49 eythian you can find it cheaper, but you probably can't find it cheaper and get it sent in a day :)
05:51 mtj_ bookmarked :p
05:52 eythian 3.20.00-beta uploading
06:04 mtj_ hey eythian, i just pushed the jessie patch to 3.16
06:04 mtj_ bug 13979
06:04 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13979 major, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Packages uninstallable on Debian Jessie
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06:04 mtj_ ..were there any other jessie patches/problems, you were aware of?
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06:58 saa i am trying to install koha on centos 7 when i download centos yaz and idzebra it throws dependency error
06:59 saa hw do i install idzebra and yaz which versions need tobe downloaded which will work fine on centos  7
07:33 BobB doh, missed him/her
07:51 indradg good afternoon #koha
07:51 indradg hope friends in Wellington are all safe and dry
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08:29 jermany why cant i aceess koha-common_3.18.06.3_all.deb ?
08:30 jermany timeout error
08:30 jermany http://debian.koha-community.o[…]pool/main/k/koha/
09:16 slef jermany: worksforme
09:24 slef Has anyone here had experience of UCBrowser (Symbian mobile phone browser, OperaMini-like) using a koha intranet interface?
09:33 indradg @wunder kolkata
09:33 huginn` indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 37.0°C (2:50 PM IST on May 14, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
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10:26 vfernandes hi :)
10:27 vfernandes it's possible to export record data in the command line?
10:38 jermany Failed to fetch http://debian.koha-community.o[…]  Connection failed
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11:56 * cait waves
12:05 * ashimema waves back
12:08 cait :)
12:08 cait no tcohen?
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12:36 tcohen morning!
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13:02 tcohen @seen cait
13:02 huginn` tcohen: cait was last seen in #koha 54 minutes and 24 seconds ago: <cait> no tcohen?
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13:24 ashimema :0
13:33 tcohen hi ashimema
13:33 tcohen whatsup?
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13:54 cait i am here
13:54 cait eating late lunch
13:54 cait tcohen? :)
13:55 tcohen hi there
13:55 wahanui bidet, tcohen
13:55 * cait waves
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14:05 indradg @seen nengard
14:05 huginn` indradg: nengard was last seen in #koha 2 days, 16 hours, 15 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <nengard> hmmm
14:06 indradg hi cait, tcohen
14:07 tcohen hi indradg, busy testing stuff?
14:07 tcohen indradg++
14:08 nengard hi
14:08 indradg :) guess it was high time I started doing something useful... not that I'm going after the tougher ones yet
14:08 indradg getting my feet wet first
14:08 nengard indradg, sure we can add a credits section to the manual
14:08 nengard I usually credit the person who wrote the section in the XML - but i'm open to whatever
14:09 indradg cool!
14:09 nengard you can see it here: http://translate.koha-communit[…]op/#oclckohasetup
14:09 indradg nengard: i wanted to discuss bug 11115 with you. i was thinking of working on it
14:09 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11115 new feature, P5 - low, ---, indradg, NEW , Pull help files from the manual
14:10 nengard cool
14:11 indradg couple of days back I came across a few cases in India, where internet connectivity is intermittent. So the help links to online manual does not really help them much
14:12 nengard yeah, and I do copy the manual text to the help files before each release - but the help files aren't as good as the manual
14:12 indradg I mirrored it locally for them... but then its not linked against actual pages or features in the Koha UI
14:12 indradg so they were asking if I could integrate that... and then I come upon your bug
14:14 nengard Hey if you can figure it out that would be great - but I'm not sure how you could do it without the good internet connection
14:14 indradg nengard: what i am thinking is shipping the manual along with the koha source, and linked against the help hooks
14:14 indradg it would mean kohadocs.deb
14:14 nengard oh okay
14:18 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11006: DBRev <[…]18850493420a3080a> / Bug 11006: Drop column aqorders.totalamount <[…]118e3d9bba3e994e1> / Bug 14147: Add unit tests to C4::External::OverDrive <[…]64b6df43c9cfc867a
14:22 * barton waves the "I'm going to ask a question, but I havn't said good morning to everybody, and I don't want to be crass" wave :-)
14:23 cait lol
14:23 cait just ask?
14:23 barton yeah, I'm 'bout to :-)
14:25 indradg hi barton
14:27 barton one of our partners is reporting that after their 3.18 upgrade, they're no longer getting an audible alert when a hold is trapped, or an item is transferred. I'm trying to figure out where to look to see if something changed.
14:28 barton I don't know what actually triggers the audible alert, so I don't have anything to grep for.
14:28 barton morning indradg :-)
14:29 cait barton: there is a system prefernece
14:29 cait soundson or similar
14:29 barton and that would probably be in one of the circ '.tt' files, I'm guessing?
14:36 cait if you find the name of the pref
14:36 cait you can do a git grep to look for it
14:37 cait or even search for it on git.kc
14:45 indradg it is 'soundon' (default is disabled) under circ prefs
14:45 indradg barton ^^ as cait said
14:46 indradg @seen bgkriegel
14:46 huginn` indradg: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 40 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> :)
14:46 indradg bgkriegel: ping
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14:47 bgkriegel sorry, here
14:48 Krixvar Hey all, having some trouble with the script for the offline client, something to do with it seems
14:49 barton thanks cait, indradg -- that definitely helps!
14:50 indradg :)
14:51 indradg Krixvar: can you paste the 'trouble' here ?
14:51 pastebot "krixvar" at pasted "" (3 lines) at
14:52 Krixvar I was having issues with it even starting before because it couldn't find, but I read online to copy the koha scripts folder to the perl folder and it fixed that
14:53 cait hm don't copy the files around
14:53 cait it probably means that your environment variables are ont set
14:53 Krixvar yeah that seemed like a pretty sketchy fix to me
14:53 cait are you using packages?
14:53 Krixvar yeah
14:53 cait so look for the koha-shell
14:54 cait[…]ckages#koha-shell
14:54 cait start the koha-shell for your instance
14:54 cait and then try again to create the files
14:55 Krixvar oh cool I hadtn't seen that one before
14:57 Krixvar hmm still erroring, one sec on a paste
14:57 pastebot "krixvar" at pasted "" (3 lines) at
14:57 cait hm
14:57 Krixvar would I have to be root to run it once I'm in that shell?
14:58 cait hm no
14:58 Krixvar okay cool, it moved me to an account I didn't recall setting up so I didn't know the password anyways haha
14:58 cait yeah, you are now the user for yur instance
14:58 Krixvar right
14:59 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13423: Fix number of tests in Serials.t <[…]05b2f6dac605d3c60> / Bug 13423: Remove unused serials-recieve <[…]d1496d31b5cf149f7> / Bug 13423: Remove unused JS function in <[…]a=commitdiff;h=9b
14:59 cait khall: around?
14:59 khall what's up?
15:00 cait Krixvar is trying to generate the koc files
15:00 cait and i am not sure what the problem is :)
15:01 cait
15:01 khall Krixvar: looks like permissions issue,
15:01 Krixvar hmm
15:01 khall you are trying to create the file in /usr/share/koha/ which is owned by root
15:01 Krixvar oh yeah that could be an issue
15:02 khall I believe there is a switch to specificy a file and path
15:02 Krixvar hmm not seeing it unless --file lets you specify an entire path as well
15:02 khall yes try it with —file /tmp/koc.db
15:03 Krixvar same error
15:03 Krixvar didn't work in home directory either
15:04 khall let me look at the script
15:04 Krixvar the error is saying unable to open database file, is that possibly the main koha one its not able to open before it even tries to create another one?
15:06 khall --sqlite3 --file /tmp/test.koc
15:06 khall ^ this worked for me
15:06 khall can you write to tmp?
15:07 khall try 'touch /tmp/test' from the command line
15:07 Krixvar oh that worked
15:07 Krixvar apparently I had --sqlite3 rather than -sqlite3
15:07 Krixvar thanks!
15:07 khall np!
15:08 Krixvar probably be back in a few as I continue trying to iron out all these little things in our setup haha
15:09 cait khall++
15:19 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14132: DBRev <[…]2fdd4c6c678f78538> / Bug 14132: suggestions table is missing indexes - atomicupdate <[…]ced6da793d424dcb4> / Bug 14132: suggestions table is missing indexes <[…]=commitdiff;h=2cc
15:19 tcohen mtompset++
15:24 tcohen hey #koha, i want to find all those blockers *this* week
15:25 tcohen so we fix them on time for the release
15:25 tcohen please test!
15:26 indradg yay! my first sign-off makes it into the master! tcohen i feel like an anesthetist in a delivery room :D
15:28 tcohen :-D
15:28 tcohen those sadists
15:29 tcohen *people opening other people's bodies
15:29 indradg :)
15:31 cait bug 14072 - pleaase? :)
15:31 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Update German web installer for 3.20
15:39 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10235: Add DataTables filters on local use prefs <[…]66334220c8cf39ce1> / Bug 9067: Fix space error <[…]219f59693b7249074> / Bug 9067: Hide item related strings when importing staged authority records <[…]b/?p=koha.git;a=c
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16:11 DisneyDave hello!
16:11 DisneyDave I need some help - my koha site is live but there are no search results
16:12 DisneyDave I believe I need to run this command "sudo koha-create-dirs mylibrary  "  Does this sound correct?
16:12 ashimema Is it a package install?
16:13 ashimema Have you made sure zebra is running
16:17 DisneyDave Hello!  I am not sure what we used to install.  How can I make sure zebra is running?
16:17 DisneyDave Sorry I am non tech
16:17 DisneyDave I use SSH to connect
16:18 DisneyDave Iuse ubuntu
16:20 indradg cait: german is de-DE ?
16:20 cait indradg: yes - deutsch
16:20 indradg ok
16:23 DisneyDave I should mention this was not a new install.  For some reason the search results just stopped today
16:23 DisneyDave I have restarted thru SSH but still no search results
16:24 DisneyDave I restarted mysql but this has not affected the results
16:24 DisneyDave I have to execute that library command unless it is the right one
16:25 DisneyDave MISTYPE:  I hate to execute that koha-create-dirs my library" unless it is the correct one
16:25 DisneyDave Thank you for any help ashimema
16:29 DisneyDave Should I use this command to check if zebra is running?  ps aux | grep zebra
16:31 DisneyDave ashimema, will this command tell me if zebra is running? ps aux | grep zebra
16:36 DisneyDave zebra and koha are both running
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16:56 indradg cait: the deutsch installer does not offer the UNIMARC option...does it?
16:56 cait no
16:56 cait UNIMARC isn't used around here - and we didn't translate the frameworks
16:57 indradg ok
16:58 indradg my wife demanded to know why the heck I was fiddling with german Koha :)
16:58 cait oh :)
16:58 cait because you are a nice person doing me a favor? :)
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17:01 bgkriegel Mmmm, bug 14072
17:01 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Update German web installer for 3.20
17:02 cait mm? hi bgkriegel :)
17:02 cait nice to see you!
17:02 bgkriegel Hi cait :) It's signed
17:02 cait thx! indradg++ bgkriegel++
17:03 DisneyDave Thank you all for your work on Koha.  Just took Nicole and a few to the Magic Kingdom Tuesday night.  :)
17:05 DisneyDave Apparently this is the right command I need to enter: sudo koha-create-dirs
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17:06 DisneyDave BUT it is not mylibrary .. .does anyone know how I can find out where the correct file name?  Zebra and koha are running but searches are empty
17:06 cait hm koha-list maybe
17:06 cait to see all he instances
17:10 bgkriegel DisneyDave: have you reindexed? koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f <instance>
17:12 DisneyDave Thank you bgkriegel.  Zebra and koha are running so I will try that.
17:20 indradg cait: done :)
17:29 wnickc is apostrophes in keyword search a known but
17:29 wnickc dont and don't produce different result sets
17:29 wnickc known bug
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17:31 DisneyDave Hi Nicole!
17:39 tcohen cait: i don't think 14072 is elegible for 3.20
17:39 cait bug 14072
17:39 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Update German web installer for 3.20
17:40 tcohen just kidding :-P
17:40 cait heh
17:40 cait i was goingto ask you what i needed to bribe you with :)
17:41 tcohen speaking of which...
17:41 tcohen i love some hard cookies you know
17:43 cait heh
17:45 tcohen hazelnut cookies
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17:59 tcohen back
17:59 cait i understand :)
17:59 tcohen those hard ones
17:59 cait yes yes
17:59 tcohen short sticks
18:00 tcohen :-P
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18:15 tcohen nick clemens?
18:16 * wnickc waves
18:16 tcohen is that you¿
18:16 wnickc tcohen: yup
18:16 tcohen did u get an email from Chris saying a regression was introduced?
18:17 wnickc the jenkins emails?
18:17 tcohen yup
18:17 tcohen you broke something :-D
18:17 wnickc eep
18:17 tcohen this commit dedd059ac006eefb9eb89c28dc3581ccaaf71098
18:17 tcohen broke t/db_dependent/Labels/t_Batch.t
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18:17 tcohen could you please take a look?
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18:18 wnickc I will do my best
18:18 tcohen great
18:18 tcohen let me know if you get stuck or something
18:18 tcohen i'll be checking another issues
18:18 wnickc alright
18:19 tcohen you probably changed the API of C4::Labels::Batch->retrieve
18:19 tcohen and our tests found it
18:21 wnickc :(
18:21 tcohen it might be just side effects, though
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18:31 * tcohen has to run
18:31 tcohen later!
18:31 cait later:)
18:35 wnickc aw, I missed him
18:36 wnickc cait: can you provide assistance?
18:36 cait hm probably not
18:36 wnickc hah
18:36 wnickc tcohen said I broke  t/db_dependent/Labels/t_Batch.t
18:36 wnickc but it is passing for me
18:36 cait ah hm
18:37 cait maybe try it on an empty database with only the samle data installed
18:37 cait it might be a data issue
18:37 cait or look at the data that is needed for hte test to pass
18:37 wnickc ah, thanks, first time breaking koha
18:47 bgkriegel wnickc: also pass for me, new db, sample data and a few books
18:47 cait hm
18:48 wnickc thanks bgkriegel
18:49 bgkriegel :(
18:49 bgkriegel Sorry, I'm wrong. Need to do a pull first, then failure
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18:51 wnickc looking at the test I have supsicions, working on geting a clean db
18:52 bgkriegel i'll look later, need to run. Bye :)
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19:47 wnickc tcohen:  I found it, do I submit a follow up patch to the bug?
19:48 wnickc or a new bug?
19:48 wahanui a new bug is probably preferrable
19:49 wnickc tests broke because batch_id changes after items are added but variable is set before items are added
19:50 indradg tcohen: a very trivial string patch - bug 14203
19:50 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14203 trivial, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , koha-translate error string for non-existent lang removal
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21:10 indradg @wunder kolkata
21:11 huginn` indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 30.0°C (2:20 AM IST on May 15, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
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21:59 wahanui hola, ORLANDO-PERU
22:00 ORLANDO-PERU hola
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22:02 * Orlando-PERU slaps wahanui around a bit with a large fishbot
22:02 * Orlando-PERU slaps Orlando-PERU around a bit with a large fishbot
22:02 wizzyrea really?
22:03 wizzyrea is that necessary?
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22:27 * wizzyrea does not have a lot of patience for trout slapping.
22:39 ibeardslee wizzyrea:[…]ok-access-project
22:40 wizzyrea ooo
22:40 wizzyrea ibeardslee++
22:40 wizzyrea I'd really like to put one of these in Lyall Bay somewhere. Not sure where though.
22:41 wizzyrea near my house isn't really practical.
22:44 ibeardslee somewhere near that big shopping complex with the warehouse etc
22:44 ibeardslee maxiumum(ish) exposure
22:44 ibeardslee maximum(ish) exposure
22:51 wizzyrea Yeah or near Maranui
22:51 wizzyrea I bet the maranui people would go along with it
22:51 wizzyrea a book and a coffee at maranui - sounds perfect to me.
22:51 ibeardslee true
22:52 wizzyrea or fish n chips from seaview and a book? greasy, but lovely I think.
22:55 ibeardslee I wonder if putting them into cafes would be the way to kick some of that off
23:06 wizzyrea hm, could be
23:06 wizzyrea they might feel overly responsible for them, which might be annoying
23:06 wizzyrea for the cafe owners
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