IRC log for #koha, 2015-02-13

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00:13 eythian <-- teehee
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00:21 dcook eythian: hehe
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00:32 bag I just download that app a few days ago eythian - it’s pretty darn funnt
00:32 bag funny
00:33 eythian it does look pretty good
00:34 eythian it'd be better if it was able to replace the weather display on my watch, "Partly cloudy/wind" is a bit boring.
00:37 eythian curiously, it didn't ask what units I wanted, it just assumed I wanted the normal ones.
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00:39 eythian hi cait
00:40 bag @wunder 93111
00:40 huginn bag: The current temperature in Eastern Goleta Valley, Santa Barbara, California is 26.2°C (4:36 PM PST on February 12, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 8%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
00:40 bag I’m outside now - too hot inside
00:42 eythian @wunder nzwn
00:42 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 23.0°C (1:30 PM NZDT on February 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
00:42 eythian you're not doing winter right, bag
00:42 bag I know!!!
00:43 bag I shall winter in Vancouver canada to make up for this difficult winter
00:44 eythian sounds like it'll average out
00:47 dcook Wow..
00:47 dcook @wunder syd
00:47 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 25.0°C (11:30 AM AEDT on February 13, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
00:47 dcook It's warmer in California in winter... than Sydney in the summer?
00:47 dcook Mind you, I suppose it's still morning..
00:47 * dcook looks out the winter. Could get hot out.
00:47 eythian you have a winter there?
00:47 eythian a whole one?
00:48 dcook Oh, I guess my pronunciation is making its way into my typing
00:48 bag we hardly get below 5 here in the winter (even on the coldest nights in the winter)
00:48 dcook Winda
00:48 dcook Window?
00:48 wahanui1 Window is to have it running in production by end of August to replace Follet Circ/Cat
00:48 dcook bag: I don't have enough data to compare here
00:48 dcook It feels really cold in the winter...
00:49 dcook But Aussies don't know how to build buildings
00:49 dcook Well, build them well...
00:50 eythian wahanui1: what happened to you, someone has painted your face funny
00:50 wahanui1 no idea, eythian
00:50 eythian wahanui1: go away and fix it
00:50 wahanui1 eythian: huh?
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00:50 eythian wahanui: better
00:50 wahanui better is "take cover." :)
01:29 eythian[…]qlo56to7_1280.png
01:32 wizzyrea can I just say one thing about feminist hacker barbie
01:32 wizzyrea why, exactly, does she have to be a jerk?
01:33 wizzyrea (I agree though, that it's funny :P)
01:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #51 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #48 3 hr 45 min ago)
01:34 * wizzyrea concludes her rant of the week
01:37 eythian that was a pretty poor rant, wizzyrea.
01:37 eythian try harder next time.
01:37 eythian this is your only warning.
01:37 wizzyrea teehee
01:38 wizzyrea I try not to be *too* controversial in #koha ;)
01:41 dcook eythian: These are the instructions you usually advocate, yeah?[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian
01:42 eythian dcook: generally, yeah. Though my improved ones are still in beta:[…]lk:Koha_on_Debian
01:43 dcook Ohh, I'll take a gander there too
01:43 dcook thx
01:43 dcook Building two Debian boxes :)
01:44 eythian ah cool, then use the 'Talk' version and fix up anything that's weird :)
01:44 dcook Sounds good
01:52 wizzyrea eythian++ verily, those are fine instructions.
01:53 dcook Mhm :)
01:53 dcook Err verily
01:53 * dcook missed what we were doing until it was too late :(
01:55 dcook I'm actually writing an Ansible playbook to take care of the process for Debian Wheezy
01:55 dcook Not that it's that hard to do manually...
01:57 dcook Would post it to Github, but probably won't maintain it and don't want people to do bad things with it..
01:59 eythian but what happens if someone wants to start with it and improve on it?
02:00 wizzyrea ^^
02:00 eythian essentially, what I'm saying is that you're having a weird idea that doesn't make sense :)
02:01 dcook Cool :)
02:02 dcook Well, in that case, maybe I'll add it :)
02:02 dcook Ansible is pretty rad
02:02 dcook I'm using it at home now for all my configuration management
02:02 dcook And I've been using it increasingly here
02:02 dcook Still using Chef for AWS, but thinking of moving to Ansible for that too...
02:02 eythian cool. I should learn it one day
02:03 dcook :)
02:03 dcook It certainly has its pluses and minuses compared with the others
02:04 dcook It's simple in its execution
02:04 dcook That is, I have two boxes with near fresh Debian installs
02:04 dcook Now all I need is to put a SSH server on each, run the playbook, and it's done
02:06 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
02:06 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
02:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.18.x_D7 build #57: FIXED in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.18.x_D7/57/
02:06 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 13352: On editing, prices should not be formatted"
02:06 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 13352: QA Follow-up: Remove Price filter from "Warning at (%)""
02:06 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13298 - Holds ratios report ignores ordered items
02:06 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13352 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Editing amount in Acquisitions budget causes error due to formatting
02:06 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13298 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Holds ratios report ignores ordered items
02:17 dcook I wish I'd timed that...
02:18 dcook Before koha-common: 47 /lib.*perl/ packages
02:19 dcook After koha-common: 310 /lib.*perl/ packages
02:19 dcook Just a few Perl dependencies, eh?
02:19 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
02:19 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
02:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.18.x_U14 build #51: FIXED in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.18.x_U14/51/
02:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 13352: On editing, prices should not be formatted"
02:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 13352: QA Follow-up: Remove Price filter from "Warning at (%)""
02:19 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13298 - Holds ratios report ignores ordered items
02:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13352 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Editing amount in Acquisitions budget causes error due to formatting
02:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13298 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Holds ratios report ignores ordered items
02:23 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
02:23 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
02:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.18.x_U12 build #33: FIXED in 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.18.x_U12/33/
02:23 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 13352: On editing, prices should not be formatted"
02:23 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 13352: QA Follow-up: Remove Price filter from "Warning at (%)""
02:23 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13298 - Holds ratios report ignores ordered items
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03:24 dcook Actually, quick question about packages, eythian
03:24 dcook It's still necessary to setup a fair number of cronjobs, yeah?
03:24 eythian dcook: do you know what time it is?
03:24 eythian no
03:24 dcook Almost beer o'clock?
03:24 dcook It looks like the only cronjobs are for indexing and
03:24 eythian _after_ beer o'clock has begun
03:24 dcook :o
03:24 eythian no, it sets them all up
03:24 dcook Then why are you here?
03:25 eythian LDAP :(
03:25 dcook Hmm, just somewhere else other than /etc/cron.d/koha-common?
03:25 eythian /etc/cron.d
03:25 dcook Boo LDAP
03:25 eythian and cron.daily
03:25 dcook Ah, right. Beauty.
03:25 eythian LDAP beats SAML.
03:25 eythian that's all I've been doing the past few days.
03:25 eythian SAML sucks.
03:25 dcook Yeah, I saw a comment about SAML
03:25 eythian it's hard.
03:26 dcook Can't say I've ever looked at either
03:26 dcook I just know that some governments use SAML
03:26 eythian yeah, it's pretty common
05:01 dcook Don't suppose you're still here, eythian?
05:32 dcook I firgured it out :)
05:32 dcook figured*
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05:42 bst i needed help on using publisher field with authority
05:42 bst an i also want to add address of publisher
05:42 bst and get authority records for publisher
05:43 bst can someone help me how to set this
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06:50 bst how to add publisher authority in koha
07:13 Guest5223 can some one help hw to add publisher authrity
07:14 Guest5223 when i clciked on authority publisher
07:14 Guest5223 in 260 tag
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07:19 * magnus_zzz waves
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07:56 reiveune hello
07:57 magnuse bonjour reiveune
07:58 reiveune salut magnuse
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08:06 magnuse hiya cait and alex_a
08:07 alex_a hello magnuse
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08:23 eythian @later tell dcook good email!
08:23 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
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08:26 Joubu hello #koha
08:26 mofad why it happen when I enter command sudo a2ensite library it appear error: site library does not exist
08:29 Joubu mofad: /etc/apache2/sites-available/library.conf does not exist
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08:40 mofad i dont have DNSname
08:41 mofad how to configure /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf
08:42 mofad is it use name based or ip based?
08:49 Joubu @later tell bag bug 12802 rebased :)
08:49 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:49 cait Joubu: i think i found a translation problem with the item search
08:49 cait bug 13700
08:49 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13700 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Translated item search not working
08:49 cait something in the translation script messes with the quotes is my guess
08:56 cait hm and also happening for es-ES
09:09 cait bug 12802
09:09 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12802 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Sent notices using several email addresses
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11:06 cait hi #koha
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11:48 tcohen morning!
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11:59 tcohen khall++
12:00 Joubu yep, khall++ :)
12:05 Joubu What is the difference between "freight", "shipping" and "shipment cost"?
12:05 Joubu Which one should we use in Koha?
12:08 Joubu Any native English speakers around? cc ashimema_, khall?
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12:27 cait Joubu: i thik there was a bug about that once hm
12:27 tcohen morning cait Joubu khall
12:28 khall mornin!
12:28 cait Joubu: bug 10705
12:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10705 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ketan, RESOLVED FIXED, Shipment cost should be 'shipping'
12:28 cait and morning all
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12:29 Joubu my translator tell me that "shipping" means "charge for transportation"
12:29 Joubu so "shipping cost" does not look good
12:30 Joubu if "charge" is already included into "shipping"
12:30 tcohen Guest5120: ?
12:30 Joubu tcohen: seems to be jcamins
12:30 tcohen morning Guest5120
12:31 cait Joubu: hm we need to find a native speaker
12:31 cait khall: ? :)
12:31 jcamins Yeah, that's me.
12:31 Joubu lunch time for me
12:31 cait or jcamins :)
12:32 jcamins Joubu: you are correct, that "shipping cost" is probably redundant.
12:32 jcamins "Freight" is a rather strange word to use when talking about books.
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12:39 cait jcamins++
12:40 jcamins "Freight" sounds European.
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12:45 cait jajm_++ .)
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13:00 Joubu BACK
13:00 Joubu oops, sorry caps lock
13:01 Joubu jcamins: ok thanks
13:02 Joubu jcamins: so, it should be shipping (which is the cost), and I could add a field shipping_tax_rate (will be the tax rate of the shipping), does it make sense?
13:12 jcamins Joubu: yes.
13:12 tcohen Joubu: have you contacted ribasushi?
13:13 tcohen oh, are you around ribasushi?
13:13 oleonard dcook++ # FTE rant
13:13 Joubu tcohen: nope
13:13 Joubu jcamins: shipment_cost and shipment_tax_rate don't make more sense?
13:14 jcamins Joubu: no, it does make sense.
13:14 Joubu no it does? :) sorry, didn't get it
13:15 jcamins Joubu: your idea sounds good. :)
13:15 Joubu ok, let's go for shipment_cost and shipment_tax_rate then! thanks jcamins
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13:18 jcamins Sorry, "shipping" and "shipping_tax_rate" are better.
13:18 jcamins Sorry, I'm trying to respond while getting ready to leave, and misread.
13:19 Joubu jcamins: I was confused! :) Ok thanks!
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13:35 magnuse druthb!
13:35 wahanui Let's rewrite Koha in Scala!
13:35 magnuse ooh La Scala
13:38 tcohen hey, that's not a bad idea
13:38 druthb magnuse!
13:38 wahanui well, magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
13:40 magnuse pizza? T minus 50
13:42 liw chocolate pizza?
13:43 tcohen they have that in brazil!
13:44 liw and in NZ
13:45 tcohen =D
13:48 tcohen ribasushi: should a DBIx::Class project use DBIx::Connector?
14:00 magnuse not in norway!
14:01 magnuse (chocolate pizza, that is)
14:01 druthb it's not hard to make, magnuse. You could solve that problem.
14:01 magnuse um, not sure it needs solving. or that it is a problem ;-)
14:02 druthb hm…you may be right.  Norwegians are one of the happiest people on Earth, and don't have chocolate pizza. Could there be a connection?
14:02 liw it's all those fjords
14:03 druthb well, pretty scenery in the fjords would make me happier, too.  All I get to see is tens of thousands of cars.
14:03 liw also, a millennium of primal scream therapy may have had an impact as well
14:04 druthb Houston traffic can be…breathtaking.  There are more people who live in Houston and its' surrounding burbs, than live in all of NZ.
14:04 oleonard druthb works for the NZ tourism board as you can see
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14:06 druthb When I was in college speech class, we had to give a "sales speech." One of my classmates gave all the reasons why you should *not* vacation in Kansas.  I could make a similar case for Houston, I think.
14:06 druthb (…and I *like* Houston, mind you.)
14:07 druthb @wunder Lawrence, KS
14:07 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -4.7°C (8:06 AM CST on February 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
14:07 druthb @wunder Houston, TX
14:07 huginn druthb: The current temperature in SE-Svc-Cntr, Houston, Texas is 8.5°C (8:07 AM CST on February 13, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028 hPa (Rising).
14:07 liw @wunder Helsinki
14:07 huginn liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 2.0°C (3:50 PM EET on February 13, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
14:07 druthb Right there is why.  I'm wearing a t-shirt.
14:07 druthb @wunder bodo
14:07 * liw enjoys the heat wave
14:07 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (2:50 PM CET on February 13, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
14:08 druthb @wunder mcmurdo
14:08 huginn druthb: The current temperature in McMurdo, Antarctica is -7.0°C (1:00 AM NZDT on February 14, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: -20.0°C. Pressure: 28.95 in 980 hPa (Falling).
14:08 liw McMurdo, now there's a place I'd like to move to :)
14:08 druthb not me!
14:08 druthb @wunder cozumel
14:08 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Cozumel, Mexico is 21.0°C (8:45 AM EST on February 13, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
14:08 druthb Now we're talking.
14:09 liw too hot
14:09 druthb nope nope nope.
14:09 oleonard @wunder 45701
14:09 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Athens OH US, Athens, Ohio is -15.6°C (8:27 AM EST on February 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
14:10 druthb yes, it is colder in Athens, than it is in Antarctica.  Aren't you glad you live there, oleonard?
14:10 oleonard Yeah, wtf
14:10 wahanui hmmm... Yeah, is a train feasible?
14:10 oleonard A train out of here wahanui?
14:10 liw to be fair, McMurdo is having summer
14:12 druthb We're heading for a high of 19C today, sunny. Cold front should hit on Monday—high of 18, low of 8, and staying cold all day Tuesday.  But back to 16 on Wednesday. :)
14:12 druthb Expecting a high of 25 tomorrow.  Enjoy your snowstorms up north, eh?
14:19 cait @wunder Konstanz
14:19 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 0.1°C (3:19 PM CET on February 13, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
14:20 cait not too bad today
14:23 * oleonard hopes he gets to visit cait in Konstanz some day
14:23 cait that would be nice :)
14:23 cait but make sure you come during spring/summer/autom...
14:23 cait autumn even
14:26 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
14:26 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #300: FIXED in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Master_U14/300/
14:36 magnuse pizzatime!
14:40 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
14:40 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #235: FIXED in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]_U12_MariaDB/235/
14:50 tcohen yay
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15:28 ashimema anyone here using koha with slip printing and till drawers?
15:29 ashimema I have two thing I'd love to work out.. printing slips/reciepts without raising a print dialogue (i.e. direct to printer printing).. and RAW print messages so I can add an escapte sequence to open the till drawer..
15:29 ashimema wonered if anyone here was doing that?
15:29 ashimema and how if so
15:39 bag ashimema: “printing slips/reciepts without raising a print dialogue”  can’t you turn that off in the browser?
15:39 bag @Joubu
15:39 huginn bag: I've exhausted my database of quotes
15:39 bag whoops
15:39 bag Joubu++
15:39 bag thanks I will test rebased bug today :)
15:42 ashimema not in any recent browser I've found
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15:43 ashimema chrome disabled 'kiosk mode with direct printing' a few versions back :(
15:44 ashimema Plus, I kinda need the raw printing, so I can send the till opening sequence too..
15:44 jcamins ashimema: you could implement something like CUPS from scratch.
15:45 ashimema lol.. lovely idea jcamins ;)
15:45 ashimema I'm currently looking at jzebra..
15:45 ashimema seems to be a java applet you install clientside and then use javascript to interact with it..
15:46 ashimema but it relies on netscape api, which is seems is begin deprecated for security reasons by most browsers.
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15:47 jcamins ashimema: ooh, here's another good option!
15:47 jcamins Use an accoustic coupler!
15:47 jcamins *Then* implement something like CUPS over it.
15:47 ashimema lol
15:48 jcamins That way the till doesn't have to be hooked up to the terminal, it just has to be *near* the till.
15:48 jcamins And you get major geek cred!
15:51 ashimema lol
15:51 ashimema full of good ideas today
15:52 jcamins ashimema: want more?
15:52 * jcamins will try to come up with a better one.
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16:03 ashimema hehe
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16:32 cait ashimema: mveron had something for direct printing with a firefox plugin
16:33 tcohen we use that too, JSPrintSetup
16:33 cait[…]_Receipt_Printing
16:33 khall cait: Joubu:[…].cgi?id=11625#c28
16:33 huginn Bug 11625: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Default to logged in library for circ rules and notices & slips
16:34 cait[…]to_print_silently
16:34 cait another thing i have heard of is sending emails to a printer
16:34 cait buti am not sure how well tht would work with a slip printer if at all?
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16:48 khall cait: Joubu: I simply cannot recreate your failed unit tests using a fresh database with sample data for bug 12803. Would it be possible for me to get a copy of your test databases?
16:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12803 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add ability to skip closed libraries when generating the holds queue
16:49 khall tcohen: could you give bug 12803 a try?
16:52 cait not sure i still have it - but i can ty to test again
16:52 cait but not before end of next eek probably
16:52 cait super busy atm
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17:18 rsz hi, I am adding books via <lib>-intra login, but the same is not searchable on <lib>-opac login! any suggestions where to start looking...
17:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13603 - autoBarcode setting hbyymmincr not taking month into account when looking... <[…]b27c390d9af10551a> / Bug 13417: DBRev <[…]0c88e1bc442911fca> / Bug 13417: Remove warnings <[…]it;a=commitdiff;h
17:33 * rsz discovers Zebra indexing and is thrilled to see the books added earlier! :-)
17:38 cait rsz: :)
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17:43 rsz my next problem: I can search records(biblios?), but can not hold/issue them... koha says No available items.. but the items tab of the same biblio says 1 item!
17:44 tcohen rsz: have you set circulation rules?
17:44 kivilahtio rsz: sounds like that
17:44 wahanui i think sounds like that is a bit above magnuse's level of incompetence
17:44 kivilahtio wow
17:44 kivilahtio wahanui: bad boy!
17:44 wahanui kivilahtio: what?
17:45 kivilahtio rsz: have you read the koha manuals implementation checklist?
17:45 rsz I have set the library, set 2 new patrons, set some rules on them..
17:45 kivilahtio rsz: To save yourself from 1000 tons of frustration. Read the Implementation checklist first and make changes based on that
17:45 rsz ok.. :-)
17:46 kivilahtio rsz: I didn't and man was I frustrated
17:46 kivilahtio rsz: and don't hurry. Take your time to read and understand
17:46 rsz this is what I should start at? http://manual.koha-community.o[…]plementation.html
17:46 kivilahtio rsz: There is also a good but outdated book about Koha.
17:47 rsz ok.. I like *book* :-)
17:47 kivilahtio yes, but use the v 3.16
17:47 kivilahtio http://manual.koha-community.o[…]plementation.html
17:47 kivilahtio or v1.18
17:47 rsz thanks a lot for showing the right path! :-)
17:48 kivilahtio no problem
17:48 kivilahtio have a great weekend!
17:48 kivilahtio I am happy to show the right path, if I donät have to show all the steps :)
17:54 rsz agree kivilahtio! :-) thanks again!
18:08 bag[…]_bug.cgi?id=11625  (looking for more librarians to commend on this in discussion bug)
18:08 huginn Bug 11625: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Default to logged in library for circ rules and notices & slips
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19:39 drojf are there now bugs 'reserved' for the hackfest? if yes, how do i know which ones?
19:40 bag what do you mean ‘reserved’ ?
19:40 bag like don’t touch them until then?  I would say no - touch and work on anything you want to
19:43 drojf ok. i think somebody wanted to make a list with things that would be good for people to learn how to sign off, or something. not sure
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20:08 beto hello everyone
20:09 beto i need help
20:09 beto anyone?
20:09 wahanui Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
20:09 beto hello
20:09 cait just ask :)
20:09 beto ok
20:10 beto I installed koha since june
20:10 beto everything went great
20:11 beto but i have this problem
20:11 beto i have almost 10000 regs
20:12 beto my asistent added 10 new books
20:12 beto but since then every new adquisition generates problems
20:13 beto i cant find them on OPAC
20:13 beto not for title, number, author
20:13 beto nothing
20:14 beto i cant add new books
20:14 beto they have the same problem
20:14 beto pls help me
20:14 beto what can i do?
20:19 beto anyone?
20:19 wahanui Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
20:19 beto anyone?
20:19 wahanui Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
20:21 beto hello?
20:22 wnickc beto: is it that you can't add the books, or just can't search for them?
20:22 wnickc do they check in using barcode?
20:22 beto i can add them
20:22 beto they dont show on opac
20:22 wnickc but they check in?
20:22 beto yes
20:23 wnickc and all your old books are searchable?
20:23 JesseM your fast indexer may not be running
20:23 beto they only way they show up is when i make a loan
20:24 beto i can find them using barcode
20:24 beto but they dont show on my opac
20:25 JesseM does anything show on the opac?
20:25 beto my old book are searcheable
20:25 beto yes... my old books
20:26 JesseM how often does your system reindex?
20:26 beto i dont know
20:26 beto how can i do it?
20:26 beto or where can i check it?
20:26 wnickc how did you install koha?
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20:27 beto live dvd
20:27 beto how can i check my fast indexer?
20:28 beto another example
20:28 wahanui hmmm... another example is inventory book we have to keep for each item which is again a number,
20:28 beto i have a book... everything is good
20:29 beto so i bought another one
20:29 beto the same book
20:29 beto y add it with another number or barcode
20:29 beto i add it with another number or barcode
20:30 beto and OPAC only shows me 1 result of that book
20:31 beto if a open that book... it shows me both of them
20:32 wnickc you can try the package commands to rebuild zebra and see if your new books show up
20:32 JesseM beto check out the manual make sure your cronjobs are set up right http://manual.koha-community.o[…]sch.html#cronjobs
20:33 JesseM commands for package install[…]e_Debian_packages
20:34 oleonard package commands work with a Live DVD installation?
20:34 JesseM I am not sure oleonard
20:34 oleonard I don't think so
20:35 wnickc the kohageek one seems to suggest it does, though...
20:36 beto ok
20:36 beto let me check
20:36 beto im going to try
20:38 wnickc Always worth noting the warning for live Cd/DVD: Live CDs and DVDs should not be used to run a library. These are not officially supported by Koha, and any difficulties should be taken up with the creator of them.
20:45 beto i dont know what command to use to rebuild zebra
20:45 beto sudo ./
20:47 jcamins beto: that's why you shouldn't use LiveDVDs.
20:48 cait beto: the main problem is that we don't know how this was set up
20:48 beto so... what should i be using?
20:48 cait it's really hard to help people using live dvds
20:48 cait debian packages is a good way
20:48 cait debian packages?
20:48 wahanui somebody said debian packages was a good way
20:48 cait hm packages?
20:48 wahanui somebody said packages was at
20:52 beto guys im so sad
20:52 beto i dont understand a lot of things
20:53 beto i dont know what to do
20:53 cait if you know where you downloaded the dvd
20:53 beto and this is a big project
20:53 cait maybe you could contact the person there
20:55 beto[…]/?q=koha-live-dvd
20:59 wnickc beto: the readme file there has directions for rebuilding zebra:[…]es/?source=navbar
21:00 cait wnickc: now you beat me to it:)
21:00 cait was just looking at it
21:00 cait beto: check the readme.doc
21:04 beto ok
21:05 beto im trying
21:08 beto now theres no results
21:08 beto on my opac
21:09 cait hwich one did you do of the 2 options?
21:10 cait run the second and add a -v to the command
21:13 wnickc talljoy:I owe you a sample file, is there anything special for formatting?
21:14 * talljoy considers her options.
21:14 talljoy tell me what the sample file is for?
21:14 talljoy is this Nick from Vokal?
21:14 wnickc :)
21:14 wnickc indeed
21:14 talljoy you send me a request written on a 100 dollar bill.
21:14 talljoy ;-)
21:15 talljoy srsly. you're talking about the file for merging bibs?
21:15 wnickc yes
21:16 wnickc assuming csv, and first column for record to keep, second for record to merge
21:16 talljoy okay, let me pull up that project and see what the details are for the incoming file.
21:16 talljoy i think you're right on with the format.
21:16 talljoy but let me double check that.
21:16 wnickc you can email me too if easier, just saw you here and pounced
21:16 beto guys theres no results
21:16 beto on opac
21:17 talljoy sure thing wnickc  i'll check with melissa and have her pass along that info to you!
21:17 beto all records deleted or what? im goign to die
21:17 talljoy HA
21:18 drojf beto: it may still be indexing
21:18 drojf did you get any output?
21:18 drojf in the terminal i mean
21:21 wnickc thanks talljoy
21:22 talljoy np wnickc
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21:25 cait beto - your data is ok - the indexing won't change or delete ti
21:25 cait just makes it searchable
21:28 beto i get this output
21:30 beto zebra idx (13320) [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [no such file or directory]
21:31 beto how can i recover my records
21:32 beto and make them searcheable
21:32 beto again
21:32 oleonard beto you must keep in mind that none of us here use Live DVDs, so we aren't familiar with troubleshooting Live DVD installations
21:32 beto yes... i know
21:32 beto but maybe works the same
21:33 drojf beto: what command did you use?
21:33 beto Rebuilding Zebra Index  Go to Home folder (/home/koha). Find file. Right click and Open the file. Select Run in Terminal. Enter the system password “koha123” when it ask.
21:36 drojf beto: can you open a terminal?
21:36 drojf or is a terminal open right now?
21:42 beto is open
21:43 drojf ok. first of all, please type
21:43 drojf sudo koha-list
21:43 drojf what does that give you?
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21:45 beto2 hello im beto
21:45 drojf hello beto2
21:45 beto2 writting on terminal
21:45 beto2 let me see
21:46 beto2 sudo koha-list
21:46 beto2 shows library
21:46 drojf ok. that is your instance name. next type
21:46 drojf sudo koha-restart-zebra library
21:46 drojf (to restart the index server. that is the thing that makes your records show in opac)
21:47 beto2 Restarting Zebra server for library
21:47 drojf ok good. now do a full reindex. type
21:47 drojf sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v library
21:47 drojf this can take a while. see if you get any errors
21:48 beto2 ok
21:48 beto2 im scared
21:48 drojf when it finishes, tell us what the output is
21:48 beto2 ok
21:50 beto2 zebraidx(18163) [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [No such file or directory]
21:51 beto2 thats is the output
21:51 beto2 drojf
21:53 drojf beto2: please do
21:53 drojf sudo apt-cache policy koha-common
21:54 drojf and is the line about collection.abs the only output? there is nothing more?
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22:00 beto2 koha-common:   Instalados: 3.18.03   Candidato:  3.18.03   Tabla de versión:  *** 3.18.03 0         500 squeeze/main i386 Packages         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
22:01 beto2 thats what it shows
22:02 beto no more outputs drojf
22:04 beto nothing more
22:04 beto nothing else
22:05 drojf beto2:[…]g.cgi?id=13396#c3 you have to edit a system file
22:06 huginn Bug 13396: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, koha-rebuild-zebra: Couldn't open collection.abs error after 3.18 package update
22:09 beto Adding these lines to koha-conf.xml solved the problem:
22:09 beto <zebra_bib_index_mode>grs1</zebra_bib_index_mode>  <zebra_auth_index_mode>grs​1</zebra_auth_index_mode>
22:09 beto but how?
22:13 wnickc beto: koha was trying to index your system using the default mode (DOM) but your system is configured for GRS1, you just told koha to use GRS1
22:13 wnickc now your system understands your data
22:13 wnickc but ultimately you are going to have to migrate to DOM as GRS1 is being obsoloeted
22:14 beto ok
22:14 beto and how i do taht?
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22:14 beto and how i do that?
22:14 wnickc make a backup, then try :[…]g_to_dom_indexing
22:17 wnickc I would say ultimately though you might want to consider a support company as #koha is very helpful, but not always available and it is good to have someone who understands the ins and outs of your system maintaining it
22:20 beto2 yes... but sometimes you dont have someone to do that
22:20 beto2 so you have to learn
22:21 tcohen hi
22:21 wahanui salut, tcohen
22:21 beto2 how do i find koha-config.xml?
22:22 drojf beto2: /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
22:25 drojf i'm out, have a nice weekend #koha
22:25 wnickc drojf++
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22:27 beto2 wnick
22:27 wnickc yes?
22:34 wnickc does anyone know why all the email and digest boxes would be disabled on an instance?
22:34 wnickc playing with kohadevbox
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22:35 beto how do i edit koha-config?
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22:36 beto2 im back
22:36 beto2 how do i edit koha-config?
22:37 wnickc sudo nano /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
22:38 wnickc or vim instead of nano
22:38 wnickc if you have a GUI you can use gedit too
22:38 wnickc but make backups, you can muck things up when editing
22:42 beto2 ok
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22:47 beto2 wnick im suppose to add <xi:include href="/etc/koha/zebradb/re​trieval-info-bib-dom.xml"             xmlns:xi="[]">   <xi:fallback>   <retrievalinfo>
22:48 beto2 After the line  <!-- <maximumrecordsize>2000000</maximumrecordsize> -->
22:48 beto2 but i cant find thath line
22:53 beto2 wnick?
22:54 wnickc I can tell you where those lines are in my koha-conf, and I would guess that is where they belong in yours, but I would just be guessing
22:55 wnickc right after     <cql2rpn>/etc/koha/zebradb​/</cql2rpn> but I am no expert on zebra and setup
22:56 wnickc so take it with a shaker of salt or come back when there are more/more knowledgeable people here
22:56 wnickc if everything is working you don't have to switch to dom today
22:56 wnickc it is just something you will havce to tackle ~soon~
22:57 wnickc and my work day is endingm but good luck
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