| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
|
mtompset |
The whole CPL/MPL/whatever branch code expectation drives me nuts! |
| 00:02 |
|
tcohen |
i hate I cannot choose the language for SQL files unless i created the translations |
| 00:03 |
|
mtompset |
Okay, I'm confused, tcohen. |
| 00:03 |
|
mtompset |
If I apply just my patch, I don't get any errors in my testing. |
| 00:03 |
|
mtompset |
Do you have holds? |
| 00:03 |
|
mtompset |
Because I don't think I do. |
| 00:05 |
|
tcohen |
you don't see warnings with your patch? |
| 00:06 |
|
mtompset |
No. |
| 00:06 |
|
mtompset |
I'm testing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. |
| 00:06 |
|
mtompset |
What were you running under? |
| 00:06 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Yippee, build fixed! |
| 00:06 |
|
wahanui |
o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 00:06 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #160: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]_U12_MariaDB/160/ |
| 00:08 |
|
mtompset |
I'll attempt my Debian VM. |
| 00:08 |
|
tcohen |
Perl 5.18 (14.04) |
| 00:08 |
|
mtompset |
I just did a fresh 14.04 Koha install the other night, I'll try it there too. |
| 00:09 |
|
mtompset |
Interesting Debian has warnings. |
| 00:10 |
|
mtompset |
And that fixes them. :) |
| 00:10 |
|
tcohen |
mtompset: http://snag.gy/j2NmP.jpg |
| 00:13 |
|
mtompset |
Yes, only on Debian, not 12.04 LTS. :) |
| 00:14 |
|
mtompset |
Debian Wheezy. |
| 00:14 |
|
wahanui |
debian wheezy is supposed to be released 4th/5th of may. does that have any consequences for koha? |
| 00:25 |
|
mtompset |
tcohen: is the item type ever null within Koha? |
| 00:40 |
|
mtompset |
tcohen: I signed it off. |
| 00:46 |
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| 00:52 |
|
dtweed |
Can any Dev's tell me if the field borrowers.debarred is used for anything any more? |
| 00:53 |
|
eythian |
a quick look grep through the code indicates it's referenced in quite a few places |
| 00:54 |
|
dtweed |
I've been tracing it for a couple of hours, and it looks like the table borrower_debarments is used instead since about 3.14 |
| 00:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
that was a reasonably recent change, yeah. |
| 00:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
I think it's still there to accommodate legacy data |
| 00:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
the first question? |
| 00:55 |
|
wahanui |
"What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 00:55 |
|
dtweed |
I seem to be getting performace issues at check in for patrons who have a date in that field, and was trying to ficure out why. |
| 00:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
ah yeah that's a bug |
| 00:57 |
|
eythian |
that's right, there's some ludicrous date comparison loop thing, iirc |
| 00:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11846 |
| 00:57 |
|
huginn |
Bug 11846: major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Correct database update for debarments with 9999-12-31 |
| 00:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
but that's not exactly it - there's another |
| 00:57 |
|
eythian |
@query debarred |
| 00:57 |
|
huginn |
eythian: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4363 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , Support the patron internet resources field in Sip2 |
| 00:57 |
|
huginn |
eythian: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13025 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Software error: Undefined subroutine &C4::Circulation::HasOverdues called at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Circulation.pm line 1925 |
| 00:57 |
|
huginn |
eythian: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6775 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, shinoy.m, NEW , Add option to use authorized values as reasons for restrictions |
| 00:57 |
|
huginn |
eythian: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3777 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED , Field Sizes Inconsistent |
| 00:58 |
|
huginn |
eythian: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8007 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Discharge management |
| 00:58 |
|
eythian |
none of those it seems |
| 00:59 |
|
dtweed |
hmmm.. I couldn't find anyone that seemed to fit, but also, it appeared there was talk about have that field switched back to a boolean anyways. |
| 01:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
well it's a moot point now really, as that isn't handled there that I know of. |
| 01:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
I do recall we had a report of this exact thing tho |
| 01:00 |
|
dtweed |
you don't happen to know where the 'ludicrous date comparison loop thing..' is? |
| 01:01 |
|
eythian |
no, it was ages since I last saw it, my memory might be wrong too |
| 01:02 |
|
dtweed |
thanks anyways. I'll find it eventually. |
| 01:02 |
|
wizzyrea |
yeah, it was that first one that fixed it |
| 01:02 |
|
wizzyrea |
bug 11846 |
| 01:02 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11846 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Correct database update for debarments with 9999-12-31 |
| 01:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
UPDATE borrower_debarments SET expiration = NULL WHERE expiration = '9999-12-31' |
| 01:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
might check your borrower_debarments table for that ludicrous date. |
| 01:06 |
|
dtweed |
That bug fix doesn't address the checkin issues, just how the debarments are copied in to the new table. |
| 01:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh check in - sorry I misunderstood |
| 01:06 |
|
dtweed |
np |
| 01:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
yeah that's a new one I think. |
| 01:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
what version are you on? |
| 01:07 |
|
dtweed |
3.16 ( |
| 01:09 |
|
dtweed |
I was just trying to figure out where in the checkin process borrowers.debarred was looked at (and why). |
| 01:09 |
|
dtweed |
I noticed that if I just change the date from the 9999... to any other date I didn't experience the issue at check in. |
| 01:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
yeah, close dates work ok |
| 01:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13226 seems kind of similar, but would be for 3.18 |
| 01:10 |
|
huginn |
Bug 13226: major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Significant slowdown of checkins with fix for notices ignoring the dateformat preference |
| 01:12 |
|
dtweed |
The root of that problem if probably the same, just a different symptom |
| 01:12 |
|
dtweed |
Thanks for the info anyways. I'll just keep looking through the perl and see what I can find. |
| 01:13 |
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| 01:13 |
|
dtweed |
UCq85yg2 |
| 01:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
^.^ |
| 01:13 |
|
dcook |
? |
| 01:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
better change that. ;) |
| 01:13 |
|
tcohen |
me too |
| 01:13 |
|
dtweed |
oops |
| 01:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
rangi: can you strike that from the log when you have a minute ^.^ thanks |
| 01:14 |
|
rangi |
yep, id still change it right now |
| 01:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
^^ |
| 01:15 |
|
wizzyrea |
thanks rangi |
| 01:15 |
|
dtweed |
changed. |
| 01:15 |
|
wizzyrea |
supergood |
| 01:15 |
|
dtweed |
thanks, this is what happens when you have too many keyboards |
| 01:16 |
|
tcohen |
rangi: is it possible to restart jenkins? |
| 01:16 |
|
tcohen |
from the UI? |
| 01:16 |
|
rangi |
yep |
| 01:16 |
|
tcohen |
looks like the debian 6 node is stuck |
| 01:16 |
|
tcohen |
but no symptoms |
| 01:16 |
|
tcohen |
it happened to debian 7 until you reloaded it on upgrade |
| 01:17 |
|
tcohen |
jenkins bug |
| 01:18 |
|
rangi |
i have to upgrade a bunch of plugins and it needs an upgrade in general |
| 01:18 |
|
rangi |
so ill do all that |
| 01:18 |
|
tcohen |
rangi++ |
| 01:22 |
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| 01:26 |
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| 01:33 |
|
rangi |
tcohen: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/computer/ |
| 01:33 |
|
rangi |
something up with ubuntu mariadb's clock? |
| 01:49 |
|
tcohen |
oh, tz |
| 01:49 |
|
tcohen |
will check |
| 02:36 |
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| 02:49 |
|
tcohen |
night #koha |
| 02:56 |
|
Phlunk3 |
long shot, but we have a school who want to use wheelers e-books in conjunction with Koha, the wheelers team told us they have some clients already using koha and I would love to hear from you if you have been involved with such a project. |
| 03:01 |
|
eythian |
Phlunk3: we have a couple using it. |
| 03:01 |
|
eythian |
It's pretty simple, iirc |
| 03:01 |
|
eythian |
they just authenticate against koha using SIP2 |
| 03:09 |
|
wizzyrea |
yeah, nbd really |
| 03:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
Even uses the default terminators and such. |
| 03:13 |
|
Phlunk3 |
cool, thought as much. Will have to have a look at sip setup on that server. thank you. |
| 03:14 |
|
eythian |
dcook: there's no need to pass null as it'll just work anyway |
| 03:15 |
|
eythian |
Phlunk3: if you have packages installed, start with sudo koha-sip-enable |
| 03:15 |
|
dcook |
eythian: If you have it set up to auto-update |
| 03:16 |
|
eythian |
dcook: which you'd do on creation in the schema :) |
| 03:16 |
|
dcook |
Actually, I can't get it to update even using a null with DBIC |
| 03:16 |
|
dcook |
eythian: Ideally, yeah :D |
| 03:16 |
|
dcook |
I don't think DBIC handles nulls so well.. |
| 03:16 |
|
eythian |
that surprises me |
| 03:16 |
|
dcook |
Oh wait, I'm probably an idiot |
| 03:16 |
|
dcook |
which shouldn't surprise anyone :p |
| 03:17 |
|
dcook |
Apparently I'm not as smart as the script.. |
| 03:17 |
|
dcook |
Ok, it does work sending a null :p |
| 03:20 |
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| 03:24 |
|
dcook |
I'm curious as to what we'll decide as I'm looking at making two new tables and both have a timestamp column :p |
| 03:36 |
|
dcook |
Actually, I think I might just make 'created' and 'updated' columns... |
| 03:36 |
|
dcook |
But if I do that without a decision, then it just adds to the diversity of ways that we do things.. |
| 03:37 |
|
eythian |
quietly add to the coding guidelines :) |
| 03:37 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 03:37 |
|
eythian |
imo, an auto-updating created/updated is the best approach as it requires minimal/no code changes |
| 03:39 |
|
dcook |
Agreed |
| 03:40 |
|
dcook |
I wonder what sort of support Postgres has for it... not that we support Postgres anyway |
| 03:40 |
|
eythian |
I'd say we burn that bridge when we get to it |
| 03:40 |
|
eythian |
you can do it with functions in postgres anyway |
| 03:40 |
|
eythian |
(if you can't do it directly) |
| 03:42 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 03:42 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I figure it's that same thing with optimization, yeah? |
| 03:42 |
|
dcook |
There's been a few times now where having a timestamp column has been frustrating |
| 03:42 |
|
dcook |
When really what you needed to know was when the row was created and last updated |
| 03:42 |
|
dcook |
I think reserves might be an example of this... or possibly issues |
| 03:43 |
|
dcook |
Actually... they both have timestamps with no context... |
| 03:43 |
|
dcook |
And other datetime columns that actually have meaning |
| 03:44 |
|
dcook |
I suppose going with 'created/updated' could require a fair number of changes actually... |
| 03:44 |
|
eythian |
that's part of why I was saying "timestamp" is a terrible name as you don't know what it is. |
| 03:44 |
|
dcook |
We would need to make sure we're not using timestamp for anything |
| 03:44 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I totally get that now |
| 03:45 |
|
eythian |
as for postgres, there's a development philosophy called "YAGNI" (you ain't gonna need it) which suggests that if it's not something you need now, don't waste time implementing it. |
| 03:46 |
|
eythian |
if you need it later, do it then. If you never need it, then don't. And don't carry round technical debt for something you don't need right now. |
| 03:46 |
|
dcook |
I certainly see the merit of that |
| 03:46 |
|
dcook |
But what about if you're too shortsighted when designing a system |
| 03:46 |
|
dcook |
And you design your way into a corner which requires a rewrite to do something that should've been done right in the beginning? |
| 03:46 |
|
eythian |
then you refactor |
| 03:46 |
|
dcook |
Fair enough |
| 03:47 |
|
dcook |
I suppose YAGNI still applies at the start.. and if you miss something... that has more to do with requirements gathering than anything |
| 03:49 |
|
dcook |
As I look over the db... it looks like `timestamp` is the same as `updated` |
| 03:49 |
|
dcook |
And that we use more specific names for `created` like `reservedate` and `issuedate` |
| 03:49 |
|
eythian |
yep. You still should design in a way that allows extensibility where reasonable, but don't spend time on things you're not needing at the moment. |
| 03:50 |
|
eythian |
well, I sorta see created and updated as database-level things |
| 03:51 |
|
eythian |
they're like metadata for the row, rather than things like issuedate which are data. |
| 03:51 |
|
eythian |
also, issuedate etc should be datetime not timestamp probably |
| 03:51 |
|
dcook |
It may very well be datetime |
| 03:52 |
|
dcook |
Not sure |
| 03:52 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I was thinking about it as metadata for a row as well rather than data, but... *shrug* |
| 03:52 |
|
eythian |
yeah,it's more you can't do the auto stuff with datetime, but datetime can go past the unixpocalyse. |
| 03:52 |
|
dcook |
That's not too far away, isn't it? |
| 03:53 |
|
dcook |
Hmm double negative.. |
| 03:53 |
|
dcook |
It's close, yeah? |
| 03:53 |
|
eythian |
2038 |
| 03:53 |
|
dcook |
Reasonably close |
| 03:54 |
|
dcook |
I recall checking our systems a while back.. |
| 03:54 |
|
* eythian |
is trying to get the elasticsearch/catmandu stuff to work on ubuntu LTS. This is going to be hard. |
| 03:55 |
|
dcook |
Why's that? |
| 03:55 |
|
eythian |
libmoo-perl depends on libmodule-runtime-perl (>= 0.014); however: |
| 03:55 |
|
eythian |
Version of libmodule-runtime-perl on system is 0.013-1. |
| 03:55 |
|
eythian |
lots of that sort of thing |
| 03:55 |
|
dcook |
Ugh :( |
| 03:56 |
|
dcook |
Good luck with that :) |
| 03:56 |
|
eythian |
I'm tempted to be lazy and cpan it all, but that's Bad |
| 03:56 |
|
dcook |
Probably |
| 03:56 |
|
wajasu |
i just got docker package builds working. about to see if they install. so i can do some ubuntu signoff tests |
| 03:56 |
|
eythian |
oh interesting |
| 03:56 |
|
wahanui |
i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 03:56 |
|
dcook |
I really need to play with docker one of these days... |
| 03:57 |
|
* eythian |
needs to... |
| 03:57 |
|
eythian |
yeah, that |
| 03:57 |
|
wahanui |
somebody said yeah, that was cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha... |
| 03:57 |
|
eythian |
I've used it a little, but I don't really understand it yet |
| 03:57 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I listened to one presentation at SLUG, but that's about it |
| 03:57 |
|
dcook |
I hope future baby likes to sleep, so we can chill out together while daddy plays on the computer |
| 03:58 |
|
dcook |
Of course, I'll babywear so that they start their love of computers from a young age :p |
| 03:58 |
|
wajasu |
should be able to put elasticsearch in its own container and use as a component |
| 03:59 |
|
wajasu |
if you are running wheezy 64bit, you can install the linux kernel backport and docker works. |
| 03:59 |
|
wajasu |
no pbuilder. |
| 04:00 |
|
dcook |
Ahh, right, that's why I've been putting it off |
| 04:00 |
|
dcook |
I'd have to use the backport. I think I was thinking of switching to Ubuntu as there was already support going back to... |
| 04:00 |
|
dcook |
I can't remember how far back, but it was advertised at least |
| 04:02 |
|
wajasu |
i have apt-cacher-ng as an apt proxy/cache and now i can have my container builds dselect and pull from it wihtout hitting net. good for laptop hackfest work. |
| 04:02 |
|
dcook |
In other news: http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/a[…]-russian-warships |
| 04:02 |
|
dcook |
The sad thing is that the satire articles sound so similar to the non-satire... |
| 04:03 |
|
eythian |
dcook: http://youtu.be/RXZAfYrMYko http://youtu.be/WgvuF-72YCc |
| 04:04 |
|
* dcook |
facepalm |
| 04:04 |
|
wahanui |
http://buikitty.files.wordpres[…]120202-094434.jpg |
| 04:07 |
|
wajasu |
i was struggling getting wheezy pkg builds to find some othe "special" pkgs in the koha squeeze-dev repo, but i might just dget them individually wihtout adding squeeze to my sources.list |
| 04:08 |
|
eythian |
it should just work |
| 04:08 |
|
eythian |
assuming you have the sources added |
| 04:08 |
|
eythian |
if you don't then it won't |
| 04:08 |
|
eythian |
but you can install koha-perl-deps |
| 04:09 |
|
wajasu |
i'll add the squeeze ones this time. |
| 04:10 |
|
eythian |
if it's for dev, then use squeeze-dev |
| 04:12 |
|
wajasu |
ok. just trying to save time for signoffs. |
| 04:13 |
|
eythian |
I put all packages into all sections, but koha-perl-deps will be the most current in squeeze-dev |
| 04:19 |
|
mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
| 04:20 |
|
eythian |
arg this sodding module has XS |
| 04:20 |
|
eythian |
I don't have a crosscompiler set up :/ |
| 04:21 |
|
eythian |
Maybe I'll put it into debian and let them do the hard work |
| 04:23 |
|
dcook |
:D |
| 04:23 |
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| 04:26 |
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eythian |
oh, they've already started to package it! |
| 04:26 |
|
eythian |
that's good |
| 04:31 |
|
eythian |
have you guys heard about the Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon? It's like it's been talked about everywhere lately. |
| 04:32 |
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jcamins |
lol |
| 04:32 |
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dcook |
I'm trying to think of a good response but I have nothing |
| 04:33 |
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eythian |
why don't I have a 64-bit build machine? This is annoying. |
| 04:33 |
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BobB |
http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/a[…]-russian-warships |
| 04:33 |
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jcamins |
eythian: you don't have a 64-bit build machine? |
| 04:33 |
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eythian |
no, I'm using a VM I set up ages ago as 32 bit for some stupid reason |
| 04:34 |
|
eythian |
ah hah |
| 04:34 |
|
* eythian |
finally finds the debian .deb files |
| 04:34 |
|
* eythian |
steals |
| 04:35 |
|
eythian |
that didn't work :( |
| 04:36 |
|
eythian |
libmarpa-r2-perl depends on perl (>= 5.20.0-4); however: |
| 04:36 |
|
eythian |
Version of perl on system is 5.18.2-2ubuntu1. |
| 04:36 |
|
eythian |
that's a bit of a brick wall |
| 04:36 |
|
dcook |
BobB: Did you see me post that link above? :p |
| 04:37 |
|
dcook |
What depends on Perl > 5.20? :S |
| 04:37 |
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eythian |
Marpa::R2 |
| 04:37 |
|
eythian |
which is a parser thingy |
| 04:37 |
|
dcook |
:S |
| 04:37 |
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BobB |
oh, well done dcook |
| 04:37 |
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dcook |
Isn't 5.20 the latest version? |
| 04:37 |
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dcook |
BobB: I'm just glad we both found it post worthy :p |
| 04:38 |
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eythian |
yep |
| 04:38 |
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BobB |
what a farce: we are a joke |
| 04:38 |
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dcook |
It is a joke though |
| 04:38 |
|
dcook |
"The Backburner is Australia's most trusted news source. It is quite obviously satire and shouldn't be taken seriously." |
| 04:39 |
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dcook |
I was a bit surprised to see SBS posting "comedy" though... |
| 04:39 |
|
BobB |
no dcook Australian government policy is the joke |
| 04:39 |
|
BobB |
the backburner and other's just convey to us the extent of it |
| 04:40 |
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dcook |
Yeah, that's pretty true |
| 04:40 |
|
dcook |
I suppose I should watch what I say on logged channels though of course :p |
| 04:41 |
|
dcook |
As an immigrant, I have encountered some really baffling stuff |
| 04:41 |
|
eythian |
I haven't speaken to an Australian who disagrees |
| 04:41 |
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dcook |
^ |
| 04:41 |
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eythian |
in fact, most of them go on at great length about it |
| 04:41 |
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eythian |
dcook: no, they're just normal Australian things |
| 04:41 |
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dcook |
I almost wrote "dcook:" hehe |
| 04:41 |
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eythian |
I mean, "doonas", "thongs", ... |
| 04:42 |
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eythian |
"eskys" |
| 04:42 |
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dcook |
eythian: I suppose you're not talking to the rich people, the poor people, or the rural people |
| 04:42 |
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eythian |
it's all weird all the time over there |
| 04:42 |
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dcook |
eythian: You mean kiwis don't use those words? |
| 04:42 |
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eythian |
dcook: yeah |
| 04:42 |
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eythian |
no we don't |
| 04:42 |
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dcook |
O_O |
| 04:42 |
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eythian |
we use the normal words |
| 04:42 |
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dcook |
Good to hear :) |
| 04:42 |
|
* dcook |
still refuses to say doona or esky |
| 04:42 |
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eythian |
"duvets", "jandels", "chilly bins" |
| 04:43 |
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eythian |
*jandals |
| 04:43 |
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dcook |
I'm willing to say "thongs" as that's just old fashioned in Canada |
| 04:43 |
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dcook |
jandels? chilly bins? |
| 04:43 |
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eythian |
yeah, the normal words |
| 04:43 |
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dcook |
err jandals* |
| 04:43 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 04:43 |
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dcook |
I do like it better than thong |
| 04:43 |
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dcook |
chilly bin also seems accurate |
| 04:44 |
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dcook |
while I think esky was a brand? |
| 04:44 |
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eythian |
so was chilly bin, I think |
| 04:44 |
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dcook |
Hmm, still is I think |
| 04:44 |
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dcook |
I guess we used a brand name too. What was it... |
| 04:44 |
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dcook |
Haven't heard it since I was a kid |
| 04:44 |
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dcook |
We mostly call them "coolers" |
| 04:44 |
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dcook |
There used to be a word you'd hear in the country though |
| 04:45 |
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dcook |
I think Saskatchewan still has dibs on "bunny hug" |
| 04:45 |
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eythian |
that sounds terrifying |
| 04:45 |
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dcook |
When you say it like that, I wish I could draw... |
| 04:45 |
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dcook |
It's just a pull over hoodie |
| 04:46 |
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eythian |
like, one without a zip? |
| 04:46 |
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dcook |
Yep |
| 04:46 |
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dcook |
Hooded sweatshirt with a pocket in front |
| 04:47 |
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eythian |
ah yep |
| 04:47 |
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dcook |
Sometimes called a kangaroo jacket in Saskatchewan as well I think |
| 04:47 |
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dcook |
Or maybe others call it that? |
| 04:47 |
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eythian |
I'd assume that was one made out of kangaroo leather |
| 04:47 |
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eythian |
(a jacket, that is) |
| 04:47 |
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dcook |
That would be more logical |
| 04:47 |
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dcook |
The internet suggests both |
| 04:48 |
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dcook |
All right... running the OAI client for its first full run. Let's see how much I can break this thing.. |
| 04:50 |
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eythian |
> sudo dpkg --force-depends -i libmarpa-r2-perl_2.086000~dfsg-3+b1_amd64.deb |
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eythian |
solved! |
| 04:50 |
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eythian |
(by cheating) |
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eythian |
if it doesn't explode, I'll consider that a success |
| 04:51 |
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dcook |
Mine exploded almost immediately |
| 04:51 |
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dcook |
That's what I get for making so many changes |
| 04:52 |
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dcook |
Mmm looks good this time.. |
| 04:53 |
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dcook |
Hmm, lookin' good |
| 04:56 |
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dcook |
And this is when dcook realizes that he hasn't built the UI for configuring target OAI servers yet... |
| 04:56 |
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dcook |
Mostly built it last year though... can probably reuse the code |
| 04:56 |
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dcook |
DBIC actually does make this way easier |
| 04:57 |
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dcook |
And once you've figured out its funky syntax, it makes a fair bit of sense |
| 04:57 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 04:58 |
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eythian |
I have a project I'm working on of my own and I wish I used that. |
| 04:58 |
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eythian |
I did everything else right (I like to think) but not that |
| 04:58 |
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dcook |
that? |
| 04:58 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... that is the intended behavior? |
| 04:58 |
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eythian |
now I get annoyed when I need to extend my schema and have to write SQL joins. |
| 04:58 |
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eythian |
that == not use DBIC |
| 04:58 |
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dcook |
Mmm |
| 04:58 |
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eythian |
well, the second one |
| 04:58 |
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wahanui |
the second one is pulling it from |
| 04:59 |
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eythian |
the first one is just == DBIC |
| 04:59 |
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eythian |
it made sense in my head |
| 04:59 |
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dcook |
I think it makes sense when I read it again |
| 05:00 |
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dcook |
I suppose I'll leave `timestamp` for now... just so it's consistent |
| 05:01 |
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eythian |
but what's it going to mean? |
| 05:01 |
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dcook |
last updated :p |
| 05:02 |
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dcook |
Mmm, but it would be nice to have added and updated... |
| 05:02 |
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dcook |
Especially since the main harvest table gets populated by one job, then processed by another job |
| 05:03 |
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eythian |
then do it |
| 05:03 |
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eythian |
wahanui: standards |
| 05:03 |
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wahanui |
the great thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from! |
| 05:03 |
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dcook |
lol |
| 05:17 |
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dcook |
What is you say about .pl scripts, eythian? |
| 05:17 |
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dcook |
That they should be super short? |
| 05:18 |
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eythian |
I think so, yeah. Business logic should be modules. |
| 05:18 |
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eythian |
display/output logic can be in the .pl or the .tt (in regular cases.) |
| 05:18 |
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dcook |
I think my importer.pl is about 32 lines |
| 05:18 |
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dcook |
That includes the licence |
| 05:18 |
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eythian |
sounds ideal :) |
| 05:18 |
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eythian |
print it and frame it |
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dcook |
haha |
| 05:18 |
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dcook |
I think I could make it shorter but then that feels like taking it a bit overboard.. |
| 05:19 |
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eythian |
yeah, keep it clear is the primary thing |
| 05:19 |
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dcook |
Yeah, in this case the .pl is pretty much just retrieving the required rows from the DB (via DBIC) and then processing them (via the .pm I made) |
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dcook |
I think it's obvious what it's doing |
| 05:20 |
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dcook |
For heavy lifting, a person can look at the module |
| 05:21 |
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eythian |
I'd probably have the DBIC stuff in the module too, but that's really just being picky |
| 05:21 |
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dcook |
I was thinking a bit about that |
| 05:21 |
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eythian |
(and may not suit your case) |
| 05:21 |
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dcook |
It probably could work |
| 05:22 |
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dcook |
It makes for a super short script, but it is pretty basic what it needs to do |
| 05:22 |
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dcook |
Iterate through the records, transform the XML via XSLT, and either add the record to Koha or update an existing record |
| 05:23 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I suppose I should be thinking about how to make this testable... |
| 05:23 |
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dcook |
/ I should've been writing my test as I went |
| 05:24 |
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eythian |
I hate doing that. It works best, but it makes the development feels so slow, even though it's faster in the end. |
| 05:25 |
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dcook |
Those feels |
| 05:25 |
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eythian |
yay, my USB SDR should arrive tomorrow. That'll give me something to play with in the weekend. |
| 05:26 |
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dcook |
USB SDR? |
| 05:26 |
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eythian |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S[…]are-defined_radio <-- in my case, a cheap USB wideband radio receiver to work with GNU Radio |
| 05:29 |
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dcook |
Oooo, that sounds like a fun weekend |
| 05:29 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I don't have anything scheduled for my weekend. |
| 05:29 |
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dcook |
That can only mean... I forgot to write down my schedule. |
| 05:30 |
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eythian |
https://www.kiwicon.org/site_media/sdr.nfo <-- I have that in about a month to learn more about it |
| 05:30 |
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eythian |
(I managed to get into the free course) |
| 05:31 |
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dcook |
O_O |
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dcook |
Very jealous |
| 05:32 |
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dcook |
I really hope my children are really into technology |
| 05:32 |
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eythian |
you should come to kiwicon |
| 05:32 |
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eythian |
https://kiwicon.org/ <-- I've probably posted this here already |
| 05:32 |
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dcook |
I'm trying to recall the dates.. |
| 05:32 |
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dcook |
December something? |
| 05:33 |
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dcook |
11 and 12 |
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wahanui |
23 |
| 05:33 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 05:33 |
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dcook |
I think we're due for another scan around then so that's probably a no go |
| 05:34 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 05:34 |
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dcook |
"Welcome to Kiwicon 8 where - just like computer security - its always 1989!" |
| 05:34 |
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eythian |
ah well |
| 05:34 |
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dcook |
One of these days... |
| 05:34 |
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dcook |
I know I always say that, but one of these days it'll actually be true and I will come over :p |
| 05:34 |
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eythian |
yeah, they always ahve an entertaining site |
| 05:35 |
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dcook |
Down to 23 lines |
| 05:36 |
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eythian |
if you get it to zero, excluding comments, you've won ;) |
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dcook |
lol |
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dcook |
I feel like I could get it down to 22... |
| 05:37 |
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dcook |
So only 3 lines of actual code :p |
| 05:37 |
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dcook |
It's currently 4 |
| 05:39 |
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dcook |
I feel like "Koha::OAI::Importer->new()->import_records();" might be cheating |
| 05:39 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 05:40 |
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dcook |
Worked though.. |
| 05:41 |
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eythian |
that's what counts |
| 05:41 |
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dcook |
I thought doing things the right way or the best way was what counted the most though :p |
| 05:42 |
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eythian |
foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds ;) |
| 05:45 |
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dcook |
Seems like chaining methods is something that has been talked about a little bit at least |
| 05:45 |
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eythian |
oh yeah, typically it's fine |
| 05:46 |
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eythian |
a few years ago java had a thing about doing it to make semantic sense where you'd chain a whole lot of things together |
| 05:46 |
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dcook |
Yeah, it seems really common in a few languages |
| 05:46 |
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dcook |
Now that I think about it, I suppose I've done it a few times... |
| 05:46 |
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dcook |
Actually, possibly even in the other script.. |
| 05:47 |
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dcook |
Yep, I totes do |
| 05:47 |
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dcook |
$record->metadata->dom->toString |
| 05:47 |
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eythian |
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~e[…]ngs/Bindings.java <-- like those bind lines there |
| 05:48 |
|
pastebot |
"dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Koha's shortest cronjob?" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/285 |
| 05:48 |
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eythian |
needs more POD ;) |
| 05:49 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 05:49 |
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dcook |
I didn't know we put POD in .pl :O |
| 05:49 |
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dcook |
I guess we do in the cronjobs.. |
| 05:49 |
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eythian |
I don't think there's a reason not to, but it'd be good to have something that says what calling this is going to achieve |
| 05:49 |
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dcook |
Agreed |
| 05:50 |
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dcook |
And probably some requirements for it doing anything |
| 05:50 |
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dcook |
Mmm, might have it print out something as well |
| 05:50 |
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eythian |
hrm, I was going to leave now I have Catmandu installing, but then Sisters of Mercy came on. |
| 05:50 |
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dcook |
At the moment it's very uninformative |
| 05:50 |
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dcook |
Stay? |
| 05:50 |
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dcook |
Dang, I was sure wahanui would have something for that |
| 05:50 |
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dcook |
What's the line.. |
| 05:51 |
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eythian |
"Stay a while. Stay forever!" ? |
| 05:51 |
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dcook |
"Please stay a while. And I promise I won't keep you long. I'll keep you forever" |
| 05:51 |
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eythian |
it shouldn't output by default, but having a verbose option would be good. |
| 05:51 |
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dcook |
ooo, good one |
| 05:51 |
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eythian |
a suitable thing to pass to the constructor |
| 05:52 |
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dcook |
After all, if it's outputting by default, people will just be dumping it out to dev/null anyway |
| 05:52 |
|
dcook |
Yeah? |
| 05:52 |
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eythian |
perhaps have a look at bug 12952 too |
| 05:52 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12952 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Log koha actions to syslog too |
| 05:53 |
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eythian |
that way you could log to syslog which would be nice, or console if there's a command line option. |
| 05:53 |
|
eythian |
or something like that. |
| 05:53 |
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eythian |
well, cronjobs get emailed to the admin |
| 05:53 |
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eythian |
that's annoying if it's noise. |
| 05:53 |
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eythian |
it's how I'd do it, so the object knows it should be verbose and outputs things it's supposed to. |
| 05:53 |
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dcook |
I suppose a person could add multiple verbosity options |
| 05:54 |
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eythian |
if you like, though I'd just go for quiet and not quiet. |
| 05:54 |
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dcook |
And have the minimal verbosity just for warnings/errors |
| 05:54 |
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eythian |
they should always log if they're likely to be important |
| 05:54 |
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dcook |
Ideally, the db should record all the important info |
| 05:54 |
|
dcook |
Except maybe... |
| 05:55 |
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dcook |
When the matching goes awry |
| 05:55 |
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eythian |
well, errors or weird data or something should log to syslog |
| 05:55 |
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dcook |
Then it just reports that there was an error |
| 05:55 |
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eythian |
or even just stderr |
| 05:55 |
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dcook |
warns go to stderr, yeah? |
| 05:55 |
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eythian |
jup |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
Hmm, so nothing is using syslog at the moment? |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
Wait.. |
| 05:56 |
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eythian |
only the SIP stuff, which totally vomits |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
Never mind that |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
Yeah? |
| 05:57 |
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eythian |
it's super noisy |
| 05:57 |
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dcook |
Is SIP the only thing that uses C4::Log::logaction? |
| 05:57 |
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eythian |
no, it's for logging to the database |
| 05:57 |
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eythian |
I think |
| 05:57 |
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eythian |
i.e. action_log |
| 05:57 |
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dcook |
Well this bug adds syslog into that |
| 05:57 |
|
eythian |
yeah |
| 05:57 |
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dcook |
So if you have syslog set up in your koha-conf.xml, it'll go to both? |
| 05:58 |
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eythian |
so log monitoring stuff can collect stats better. |
| 05:58 |
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eythian |
I think so |
| 05:58 |
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dcook |
I would really love better logging |
| 05:59 |
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dcook |
Hmm, any good examples regarding sending the verbosity flag to the constructor? |
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dcook |
I suppose if a person makes an accessor it'll be nicer than $self->{verbose} |
| 06:00 |
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dcook |
I wonder how many OAI servers actually use UTC... |
| 06:01 |
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eythian |
have a look at how class::accessor does it |
| 06:01 |
|
* eythian |
departs |
| 06:01 |
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eythian |
later |
| 06:01 |
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dcook |
ta |
| 06:04 |
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dcook |
Yeah... I don't think Koha necessarily handles time right... |
| 06:04 |
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dcook |
For the OAI server |
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dcook |
blarg |
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* cait |
waves |
| 06:11 |
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dcook |
yo cait |
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* dcook |
really should leave now |
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cait |
heh |
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* dcook |
debates trying to fix oai.pl or just going with the consistent error... |
| 06:14 |
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dcook |
Probably the consistent error... |
| 06:14 |
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dcook |
As I'll be harvesting from Koha into Koha |
| 06:14 |
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dcook |
And fixing one will just cause unexpected results |
| 06:14 |
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dcook |
And there is no guarantee the fix will go out to all the Kohas I need to harvest from...:S |
| 06:14 |
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dcook |
Oh well. That's why it's 5:15pm |
| 06:14 |
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dcook |
Have a good day, cait :) |
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cait |
have a nice evening :) |
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Rebaz |
Hello guys , |
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Rebaz |
I am a new user of Koha , recently we have installed koha system in the library , and we have inserted more than 10000 books , now I want to print all the books with their DC , |
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Rebaz |
any help will be appreciated please |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
hola, reiveune |
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marcelr |
hi reiveune |
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reiveune |
bonjour marcelr magnuse |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
hola, alex_a |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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marcelr |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi marcelr :) |
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paul_p |
hi #koha |
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paul_p |
magnuse around ? |
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ashimema |
morning #koha |
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cait |
hi paul_p and ashimema |
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marcelr |
hi paul_p ashimema |
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bigbrovar |
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:-i |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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cait |
hi drojf and khall |
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khall |
hi! |
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drojf |
hi! :) |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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cait |
hi oleonard :) |
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* cait |
is happy because at home waits a new kitchen! |
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cait |
... only I have to work a bit longer |
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oleonard |
Did you get a visit from the kitchen fairy cait? |
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cait |
something like that :) |
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cait |
i had a very minimalistic kitchen in the last years - it's a huge upgrade in features :) |
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cait |
real oven! |
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cait |
freezer! |
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oleonard |
Real oven + freezer = Freezer cookies! |
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cait |
that's a thing? |
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oleonard |
Yup. Cookie dough you can freeze, slice, and bake. |
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oleonard |
Good for making just enough cookies for an emergency cookie fix. |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
sounds good! |
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cait |
I got a little 'elk' yesterday to make ginger bread cookies |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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khall |
mornin tcohen! |
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cait |
morning tcohen |
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oleonard |
Joubu: Bug 13242 should be tested on top of the patch for Bug 13226? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13242 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Slow checkin for patrons restricted indefinitely |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13226 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Significant slowdown of checkins with fix for notices ignoring the dateformat preference |
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Joubu |
oleonard: as you want |
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* Oak |
waves |
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Joubu |
rangi: around? |
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oleonard |
Too early for rangi Joubu |
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Joubu |
tcohen: Did you see my comment on bug 11634 before you pushed the last patch? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow renewal of item with unfilled holds if other available items can fill those holds |
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tcohen |
Joubu: no i didn't |
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oleonard |
Joubu are you ready for a new checkin problem? :| |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
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oleonard |
Checking in an item which triggers a suspension in days takes around 50 seconds in my test system |
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cait |
Joubu: 12 hours now to nz - for you ... 11 or 13? |
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Joubu |
oleonard: shoot |
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oleonard |
Specifically: Checkin in an item which triggers a suspension in days from the account of an indefinitely restricted patron |
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mveron |
Are acronyms widely used in Koha? - The acronym tag splits up sentences making it very difficult to have a correct translation, e.g. for opac-auth.tt |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt++ # patron privacy wrangler |
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Joubu |
oleonard: Does the problem still exists with bug 13242? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13242 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Slow checkin for patrons restricted indefinitely |
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Joubu |
oleonard: The problem should be fixed globally with this patch |
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Joubu |
the problem == trying to parse "9999-12-31" to generate a DateTime object |
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oleonard |
I will double-check Joubu |
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oleonard |
Yes, the problem with suspension in days still happens with the patch for 13242 applied. |
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Joubu |
oleonard: could you open a new bug report please? |
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oleonard |
Yes. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. |
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oleonard: I don't manage to reproduce it... |
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reiveune1 |
bye |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
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* Nicole C. Engard: add id for barcodeattribute |
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* Nicole C. Engard: remove OpacShowLibrariesPulldownMobile |
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* Nicole C. Engard: remove prog and ccsr from opacthemes |
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* Nicole C. Engard: remove other theme images |
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* Nicole C. Engard: update path to opac.css |
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* Nicole C. Engard: fix typo |
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* Nicole C. Engard: update path to xslt with bootstrap |
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* Nicole C. Engard: remove prog from cms appendix |
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cait |
new kitchen! |
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* oleonard |
laments that no one does any QA anymore now that cait spends all her time in the kitchen |
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cait |
hehe |
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cait |
i did my share this year.. not it's time for cookies |
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oleonard |
You certainly did cait! |
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oleonard |
cait++ |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
i will do more |
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cait |
at the moment i am scared to break something in the new kitchen |
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oleonard |
I had a friend who turned on her newly-installed oven only to find out shortly after that there had still been packing material inside. |
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cait |
waah! |
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tcohen |
hi |
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* cait |
waves |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
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tcohen |
o/ |
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barton |
I have a partner who says that they are no longer able to look up patrons by userid on checkout, after upgrade to 3.16. I wasn't aware that this was ever possible, but they're adamant that something's broken. |
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barton |
was this formerly possible at the standard search bar? |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
on checkout? |
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cait |
not sure really |
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barton |
right. |
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tcohen |
barton: don't think so |
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tcohen |
maybe it was a coincidence |
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barton |
nod. |
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barton |
it doesn't smell right to me either. |
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oleonard |
It doesn't work for me when I check out 3.14.x |
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barton |
oleonard++ |
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oleonard |
I'll see your username login and raise you one, "Patrons after the upgrade have the 'gonenoaddress' flag set when it wasn't set before" |
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oleonard |
I can't imagine how that could be true, but that's what people are telling me |
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cait |
huh |
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cait |
that sounds weird |
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barton |
which table is that in? |
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cait |
borrowers |
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wahanui |
rumour has it borrowers is InnoDB in oleonard's test system, FWIW |
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cait |
gonenoaddress or similar |
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barton |
would chainging a borrower's card number cause problems? |
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cait |
oleonard: around? |
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wnickc |
their card wouldn't work anymore :) |
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oleonard |
cait: Yes |
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cait |
HEA - Render community koha statistic usages |
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cait |
could we rephrase that a bit for the release notes? |
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barton |
wnickc -- true, but they seem hellbent on checking patrons out by userid, and they don't want to change those ... *something* has to give. |
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wnickc |
copy userid to sort1 or sort2, i think those are searchable now? |
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barton |
cait: how about "Report" rather than "Render"? |
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oleonard |
cait: Are you updating bug titles for that purpose? |
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cait |
trying yes :) |
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barton |
wnickc -- search on the patron screen works fine by userid. are you saying that you can check out items using sort1 or sort2? |
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wnickc |
oh, it might only be on patron search, sorry barton |
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barton |
no problem wnickc -- I'm trying to nail this down as much as I can, just to avoid further communication issues with the partner. |
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oleonard |
Hea - Report Koha community usage statistics? Hea - Report Koha library usage statistics? |
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* barton |
prefers the latter. |
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tcohen |
later #koha |
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cait |
oleonard: feel free to fix any mistakes you see! |
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cait |
HEA - Report usage statistics to Koha community? |
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oleonard |
Is anyone aware of a problem for UNIMARC users with the OPAC's "show plain" MARC view? |
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* oleonard |
is asking at the wrong time of day probably |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
there was a patch recently |
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cait |
but not sure if it was for staff/opac and if it got pushed |
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oleonard |
Maybe you're thinking of Bug 13225 cait |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13225 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 result Card View doesn't work for UNIMARC |
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cait |
oh <wa |
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cait |
oh yes |
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cait |
oleonard: would the title above work bit better? |
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cait |
HEA - Report usage statistics to Koha community? |
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oleonard |
That sounds good to me |
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oleonard |
Bye folks |
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barton |
wnickc: talljoy just pointed me in a direction that makes your idea of using altid usable in circ: make the borrower attribute 'searchable'. |
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wnickc |
ahh, I knew there was an answer barton |
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wnickc |
thanks for sharing |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard++ for reiterating the need for civility and compassion on the mailing list. |
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cait |
y |
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* Nicole C. Engard: remove yuipath |
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* Nicole C. Engard: add Advanced Search Options prefs |
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* Nicole C. Engard: add new max suspension and auto renew to circ rules |
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* Nicole C. Engard: add new autorenew cron |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: add note about renew cron to circ rules |
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tcohen |
hi |
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wahanui |
hello, tcohen |
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wizzyrea |
hi tcohen |
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cait |
hi tcohen :) |
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tcohen |
is there a source for CC licences logos? |
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cait |
hm? |
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tcohen |
there are some audio tracks |
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tcohen |
on some video |
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tcohen |
that need to be attributed |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
i think there is a website that helps you pick the license |
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cait |
and also offers a logo |
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tcohen |
yes, but only a small resolution |
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wizzyrea |
https://wiki.creativecommons.org/Marking/Users |
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wizzyrea |
does this help at all? |
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* Nicole C. Engard: add AcqEnableFiles |
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* Nicole C. Engard: add invoice file attaching |
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cait |
z39.50? |
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wahanui |
somebody said z39.50 was the ANSI standard of the beast. |
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wizzyrea |
snerk |
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cait |
z39.50? |
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wahanui |
z39.50 is probably the ANSI standard of the beast. |
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cait |
z39.50? |
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wahanui |
i guess z39.50 is the ANSI standard of the beast. |
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cait |
ok... i will look in the logs |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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cait |
logs? |
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wahanui |
i think logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ |
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wizzyrea |
z39.50? |
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wahanui |
z39.50 is the ANSI standard of the beast. |
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tcohen |
thanks wizzyrea |
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tcohen |
you earned a reward: http://snag.gy/LZiyq.jpg |
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wizzyrea |
https://wiki.creativecommons.o[…]in_specific_media specifically that |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]en_Z39.50_Sources |
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cait |
i have no idea why i never can find that |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
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nengard |
lots of manual progress today |
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nengard |
i might actually get it all done before the release!! |
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wizzyrea |
wahoo! |
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cait |
:) |
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mveron |
nengard ++ |
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cait |
hmthe vokal one is not working for me |
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bag |
nengard++ |
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cait |
... and neither does sekls? |
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bag |
hmmm cait vokal works for me |
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cait |
weird |
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bag |
what port are you trying? |
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cait |
9999 |
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bag |
hmm cait try 9998 real quick for me |
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bag |
does it just time out? or do you get a different message? |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
looking better :) |
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tcohen |
nengard++ |
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tcohen |
byeeeee |
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bag |
yeah i think that is supposed to be port 9998 (usually that's the standard one that we use) |
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cait |
ok, just figured out i was looking at sekls |
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cait |
but t works now |
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bag |
oh heh |
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cait |
9998 |
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cait |
:) |
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wnickc |
VOKAL's is 9999, at least it works for me |
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wnickc |
and BU doesn't appear to be on Koha to my eye |
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cait |
i think i had a space in front of the url :( |
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cait |
from copying it out from the wiki |
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cait |
bag++ wnickc++ |
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cait |
testing bug 6681 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6681 major, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Signed Off , When importing a biblio record via Z39.50, authority links and items also get imported |
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cait |
and it works nicely :) |
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eythian |
hi |
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nengard |
hi |
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cait |
@later tell tcohen can you take a look at bug 13223 if we can waive the need for unit tests there? |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
@later tell tcohen I tried writing some for 13223 - can you check? |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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mveron |
Good night / daytime #koha |
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* dcook |
keeps meaning to learn UNIMARC |
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dcook |
Oh... I was reading scrollback |
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dcook |
oops |
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wizzyrea |
thing that needs doing: the website FAQ needs updating |
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wizzyrea |
for 1. new FAQ's |
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wizzyrea |
2. eliminating outdated FAQ's |
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wizzyrea |
3. getting it consistent with best practice. |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/faqs/cookies-koha-use/ < also we should link to this from the opac footer, as a start towards a cookie policy statement. |
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rangi |
hmm true |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/faqs[…]ndex-start-again/ this one probably highlights a bug, that there isn't a packages way to do this (or is there?) |
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wizzyrea |
hm I feel we should have a faq that is for packages, and a faq for not-packages |
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wizzyrea |
(i'm noting these just for the log, not that I expect anyone else to do them) |
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wizzyrea |
(help is nice though) |
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dcook |
Hmm...I'm wondering if I'm reading the wrong DBIC docs.. |
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dcook |
Hmm maybe not... |
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* dcook |
would love to know why this update isn't working |
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dcook |
$result->last_modified(\'NOW()')->update(); |
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dcook |
# OR |
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dcook |
$result->update({ last_modified => \'NOW()' }); |
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dcook |
The first won't work, but the second will... |
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dcook |
Hmm, I guess this is what perl -d is for again.. |
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