IRC log for #koha, 2012-10-09

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01:16 mtj rangi ->
01:22 rangi 2 new patches on bug 3652 for signoff
01:23 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , XSS vulnerabilities
02:06 rangi mtj: checkout out bug 8701
02:06 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8701 normal, P5 - low, ---, sandbergja, Needs Signoff , Help for OpacHiddenItems pref should not point to text in install directory
02:07 rangi hmm -out
02:08 jcamins_away Wow.
02:08 jcamins_away 8MB/s download speeds are really nice.
02:08 jcamins_away Makes downloading OS upgrades a lot less painful.
02:09 mtj rangi, ta
02:10 rangi im not sure where she is from, but want to encourage her
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02:27 user110 Jane Sandberg is the director of Information Technology for Tap In Leadership Academy. Currently a graduate student and Mix IT Up! fellow at the University of Illinois' Graduate School of Library and Information Science,
02:27 user110[…]mation_technology
02:29 rangi stalker :)
02:29 user110 me? na, google
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02:38 user110 cool, we're back
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03:03 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
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03:22 mtompset Greetings, BobB. :)
03:25 BobB hi mtompset
03:27 BobB Mark are you in NZ?
03:37 mtompset No, I'm in the Philippines.
03:37 mtompset Sorry for the slow response.
03:49 mtompset Lunch! :)
05:22 BobB mtompset, I also slipped away, sorry.
05:22 mtompset Not a problem.
05:23 BobB The Phillipines, wow!  Strong support for Koha there.
05:30 mtompset Not necessarily the most current versions, but yes.
05:37 mtompset We're using the most current version, however. :)
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05:55 magnuse kia ora #koha!
05:56 magnuse hiya mtompset and BobB
05:56 mtompset Greetings, magnuse.
05:56 BobB Hi magnuse
05:56 BobB Hi Cait
05:57 BobB Oh, bye cait, she joiined and  left again.  :)
05:58 magnuse yeah, that was quick
05:58 magnuse how's oz these days, BobB?
06:00 BobB Its great magnuse, 3.5% GDP growth, 5% unemployment, 2% inflation, strong currency and everyone hates the government.
06:00 BobB I have to say I don't really get it.
06:01 magnuse wow, those are good numbers
06:01 magnuse i think it's part of being human...
06:01 BobB How is the young one Magnus?
06:01 magnuse we have something of the same here
06:01 magnuse oh doing good! eating, sleeping, growing
06:01 mtompset That's a really low unemployment rate!
06:01 magnuse something new every day
06:02 BobB Yes, they grow quickly.  They don't stay babies for long.  Enjoy this time!
06:02 magnuse will do! it's so good to work from home and have him around all the time
06:03 BobB :)
06:03 mtompset @later tell jcamins http://media-cache1.pinterest.[…]35_qWntZ387_f.jpg -- Upside down muffin pans make cookie bowls!
06:03 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
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06:10 mtompset Greetings, cait.
06:11 magnuse guten morgen cait
06:11 cait good morning mtompset and magnuse :)
06:12 mtompset Where's, drojf? Wanted to share the cookie bowl picture I found.
06:20 rangi evening
06:21 cait hi rangi
06:25 mtompset Greetings, rangi.
06:27 magnuse kia ora rangi
06:27 mtompset Hmmm... silent warnings in the error log files over adding a new member. Guess it's time to try this in my test environment.
06:31 rangi bug 3652
06:31 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , XSS vulnerabilities
06:31 rangi 2 new vulnerabilities found and patched if someone has time to sign off
06:38 mtompset What does |html do?
06:38 rangi what would you guess it does?
06:38 cait magnuse: I am on 3652
06:38 magnuse cait++
06:39 mtompset pipes output through a script called html?
06:39 rangi[…]html#section_html
06:39 magnuse mtompset: http://www.template-toolkit.or[…]html#section_html
06:39 magnuse gah!
06:39 mtompset someone owes someone a coke somehow. ;)
06:40 cait eek
06:40 * magnuse owes rangi a lot already :-)
06:40 cait not it started raining again
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06:40 cait now...
06:40 reiveune hello
06:40 cait ok
06:40 cait confirmed bug
06:40 rangi cool
06:41 mtompset BTW, I just noticed a typo in the diff... |htm l
06:41 cait hm
06:41 cait after applying the patch
06:41 cait I reloaded the page
06:42 cait and changed pages
06:42 cait to test it still works
06:42 cait on page 3 I got:
06:42 cait Template process failed: undef error - htm: filter not found at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/ line 132.
06:42 rangi thats the type
06:42 mtompset That's the typo I just mentioned. ;)
06:42 rangi typo, can you just fix it
06:42 cait ah
06:42 cait ok
06:42 cait will check
06:42 rangi and sign off the fixed one
06:42 rangi thanks
06:44 cait fixed
06:44 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
06:44 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Pankow, Weissensee, Germany is 6.8°C (8:41 AM CEST on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
06:45 mtompset drojf!
06:45 drojf eek
06:45 drojf can i work from home please? from my bed?
06:45 drojf mtompset!
06:45 wahanui mtompset is probably working on the ultimate koha uninstall script for fun. Bug 459. Old school, baby!
06:45 huginn Bug[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=459 enhancement, P4, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , No uninstall script
06:45 mtompset wahanui: forget mtompset
06:45 wahanui mtompset: I forgot mtompset
06:45 mtompset I'll need to come up with something better later.
06:45 mtompset http://media-cache1.pinterest.[…]35_qWntZ387_f.jpg
06:46 mtompset Upside down pans to make cookie bowls!
06:46 drojf cool. i say we use them to put cookies inside
06:46 mtompset No, the muffin pans... upside down.
06:47 alex_a bonjour
06:47 cait there you go
06:47 cait all done
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06:47 cait drojf: can I copy your application to work from bed?
06:47 cait it started raining heavily again
06:47 drojf sure :)
06:48 * cait blames rangi for making her sign offon patches
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06:50 mtompset cait... can't we "blame it on the rain... Gotta blame it on somethin'." ;)
06:51 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:51 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.2°C (8:45 AM CEST on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
06:51 cait mtompset: but it's more fun when rangi brings me chocolate to next kohacon :)
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06:52 mtompset But you are such a nice, likeable person, wouldn't he do that normally? :)
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06:59 mveron Good morning #koha
07:07 rangi hi mveron
07:07 mveron hi rangi
07:09 * mveron will travel to Frankfurt Book Fair this week, guest of honour is New Zealand:
07:10 rangi ahh cool
07:15 magnuse yay!
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07:19 magnuse wb kf
07:20 kf thx magnuse .)
07:20 rangi hi kf
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07:21 magnuse kia ora paul_p!
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07:21 rangi hi paul_p
07:22 kf hi paul_p
07:22 gaetan_B hello
07:22 wahanui hello, gaetan_B
07:26 mtompset Hmmm... is there a patch or system preference for the sort order on dates for reports?
07:28 kf ?
07:28 mtompset Hmmm... that's a bizarre case, dateformat = dd/mm/yyyy sorts wrong, but yyyy/mm/dd sorts right.
07:29 mtompset "wrong" in the want it to sort the same as yyyy/mm/dd
07:29 rangi any qa people in the house?
07:31 kf mtompset: not so bizarre I think
07:31 kf it's probably missing the magic to make it sort right for different date formats
07:31 kf you coudl report a bug for that
07:32 kf although I am not sure where you are seeing this?
07:32 mtompset Saved Reports
07:32 mtompset We have a whole bunch of them.
07:32 mtompset Each has a date.
07:32 kf ah yes
07:32 mtompset In the list of them.
07:33 kf I woudl say file a bug
07:33 kf not sure which table sorter is used for that page at the moment
07:33 mtompset If you sort on the date... it sorts "wrong" for non-yyyy-mm-dd layout.
07:33 kf yes
07:33 kf because the other date formats can't be sorted alphabetically
07:33 kf you need a different logic
07:33 mtompset Right.
07:38 mtompset jquery tablesorter.
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07:40 mtompset I'm wondering if this is part of the rabbit hole that libsysguy feels like he's fallen down.
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07:53 magnuse o/
07:53 druthb Hi magnus.
07:59 magnuse hiya druthb
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08:39 mtompset Greetings, jcamins
08:40 jcamins The problem with using a crockpot to cook delicious meals overnight is that when you wake up at 4:30 it smells SO GOOD that you can't fall back asleep 'cause you're hungry.
08:40 jcamins Good morning.
08:40 * mtompset laughs.
08:41 mtompset I didn't know if I was going to be around to tell you about the cookie bowl idea I found.
08:42 jcamins My muffin tins wouldn't be so good for that.
08:42 kf jcamins: what did you make?
08:42 jcamins They have very straight sides.
08:42 jcamins Shari made kielbasa with sauerkraut and apples.
08:43 magnuse ?
08:44 kf so you cooked the sauerkraut in there?
08:44 jcamins Yup.
08:44 jcamins (to both questions)
08:44 kf :)
08:46 * magnuse gets hungry
08:55 WaqarAzeem Please someone with wiki administrative rigths can delet this image[…]ataModelv3.08.png - this link is appearing on Category:Development as i have attached it to the category.
09:19 paul_p1 WaqarAzeem: doing it now
09:19 paul_p1 WaqarAzeem: done
09:25 WaqarAzeem thanks
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09:33 WaqarAzeem paul_p1: somehow it's still appearing in breadcrumb at[…]egory:Development
09:34 magnuse WaqarAzeem: i think that is because the breadcrumbs remember pages you have visited
09:34 WaqarAzeem Ok
09:36 paul_p1 WaqarAzeem: I confirm what magnuse says: I don't see it
09:37 slef wahanui: SMIDSY
09:37 wahanui slef: sorry...
09:38 slef wahanui: SMIDSY is Sorry, Mate, I Didn't See You!
09:38 wahanui OK, slef.
09:38 mtompset DM?
09:39 mtompset The thumbnail isn't called the same thing, WaqarAzeem.
09:40 mtompset It's Kohastructure.png
09:41 magnuse [slef] yup, got some weird messages
09:41 magnuse lol, should i just go back to sleep?
09:44 mtompset Nope. You're awake. Try to be productive. :)
09:46 magnuse will do!
09:54 jcamins Well... I'm not sure this is a good sign.
09:55 jcamins I got Plack running... it gives me a stack trace.
09:58 jcamins slef: you can't use [off] and @later
09:58 slef wahanui: you suck
09:58 wahanui slef: i'm not following you...
09:58 slef wahanui: clearly
09:58 wahanui slef: huh?
09:59 kf slef: you can tell huginn directly in a pm
09:59 slef oh yeah, it's huginn's fault
09:59 kf hm wahahui
09:59 slef no huginn
09:59 slef supybot
09:59 jcamins I got the system maintenance page.
09:59 jcamins Yay!
09:59 kf slef: I id
09:59 slef kf: me2
09:59 kf I did it, got a success message
09:59 slef he'll be spammed in reply :)
09:59 kf ok :) so that shoudl hopefully work
10:00 kf but he has to say something here first
10:00 kf so maybe a mail would be better
10:00 slef I don't have his mail handy.
10:00 kf I am writing him one
10:00 slef ok thanks.
10:01 kf done
10:08 mtompset Actually, you can privately message wahanui with the @later. I don't think that gets logged, slef.
10:08 jcamins Yay!
10:08 jcamins Plack is working!
10:09 drojf why wouldn't it?
10:09 kf jcamins: hope you made notes :)
10:10 kf guess I will need one server running plack in the future
10:10 jcamins drojf: because I decided I didn't like dpavlin's suggested configuration and am doing a creative new configuration.
10:10 jcamins Unfortunately, it's getting tetchy about listening only on a socket.
10:10 drojf i added some info for minimal plack configuration to the wiki some days ago if that helps anyone
10:10 jcamins I saw.
10:11 jcamins I didn't realize that was you.
10:11 jcamins drojf++
10:11 drojf \o/
10:11 jcamins That's what I started with.
10:11 slef mtompset: huginn ITYM
10:11 jcamins Then things started getting wacky.
10:11 mtompset ITYM?
10:11 wahanui it has been said that ITYM is I Think You Mean
10:12 mtompset Same diff. :P But probably. :)
10:12 mtompset Good thing you are telling wahanui your slef-isms. :)
10:12 jcamins Woohoo!
10:13 jcamins Starman will listen on a socket.
10:13 drojf cool. starman is on my todo-pile
10:13 jcamins (without also listening on a port)
10:13 jcamins Now, nginx.
10:13 * mtompset can feel the techy-success through IRC.
10:13 jcamins drojf: don't suppose you have a minimal nginx configuration?
10:13 mtompset Are you doing a little success dance too, jcamins? ;)
10:14 jcamins mtompset: no, but I'm bouncing on my exercise ball.
10:14 drojf jcamins: not yet ;)
10:15 jcamins I think I'd like those debug panes, too...
10:15 drojf the debug stuff is fancy but requires a lot of perl module building
10:19 jcamins I decided to use Ubuntu, even though I don't like it so much, because more of the modules are available.
10:19 jcamins Oh, that was a dumb way to do things.
10:20 jcamins Well, my Plack config worked until I decided just now to redo it.
10:22 drojf you mean, my part worked? :P
10:22 jcamins It did, but I was celebrating when my modifications worked.
10:22 jcamins I just modified it again.
10:23 jcamins Huh. And my changes worked, so far.
10:40 jcamins Hm.
10:40 jcamins Looks like no one pointed out to me that the dropdowns couldn't be translated, either.
10:40 kf lunch time
10:40 jcamins Not that I see how it would be possible.
10:41 kf_lunch oh
10:41 kf_lunch which drop downs?
10:41 kf_lunch and I will ignore that until after lunch
10:42 jcamins Authorities.
10:51 jcamins Cool, nginx+plack is fully functional.
10:51 jcamins Well, sans nifty debug panels.
10:51 jcamins And automatically starting on boot.
10:52 jcamins And data.
10:53 drojf huh?
10:54 jcamins I have my server running nginx and Plack, with the following problems: no nifty debug panels, Plack doesn't start on boot, and there's no data.
10:56 magnuse are they just running or are they running koha?
10:56 jcamins lol
10:56 jcamins Running Koha.
10:56 magnuse yay!
10:58 jcamins Well, hm.
10:58 jcamins dh-make-perl does not do what I was expecting it to under Ubuntu.
10:58 magnuse make coffee?
10:59 jcamins Make a Debian package.
10:59 drojf what does it do instead?
10:59 jcamins Generate a local Perl environment.
11:00 jcamins I can work with that, though, I think.
11:02 jcamins That first time you hit Plack, it's quite slow, I have observed.
11:02 magnuse hehe: "Using this program is no excuse for not reading the debian developer documentation"
11:02 jcamins I think perhaps my daemon startup script needs to request something when it starts.
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11:04 mtompset I dislike ubuntu's two ways of doing init scripts.
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11:05 drojf jcamins: i remember that the last time i wanted to use dh-make-perl it did something like that too. before it just built .debs
11:06 jcamins Okay... I thought the panels were more attractive.
11:06 jcamins And less intrusive.
11:06 drojf heh
11:08 jcamins Oh-ho.
11:08 drojf maybe i skipped the cool stuff that makes it fast in my minimal guide
11:08 jcamins It's nginx.
11:08 drojf ;)
11:09 jcamins drojf: no, after the initial hit it's blazing fast.
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11:19 jcamins 404 Not Found... why?
11:21 kf jcamins: that's because the name is in the sql files I think - for the drop downs
11:22 jcamins kf: yeah, I guess that's not very fixable, is it?
11:23 kf hm
11:23 kf not really
11:23 kf well not if you want it multilingual
11:23 kf but you could give your frameworks translated names and create translates sql files
11:24 mtompset ewwww!
11:24 kf mtompset: it's like things are.
11:24 kf and it's common to have a set of sample data for various languages in KOha - this is only a side effect of that
11:30 mtompset Having sample data for various languages - good. What that sounds like - bad.
11:32 jcamins Guess I'll have to do without the debug panels.
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11:37 * jcamins does not like doing without the debug panels.
11:37 kf mtompset: you can add frameworks yourself - they are user generated content
11:38 kf mtompset: there is no way to have mulitple language support for database values right now
11:38 kf the only thing that can be fixed is the "default2 for the standard framework
11:41 magnuse when 3.10 is out we should do a "close pushed bugs" day, i think...
11:41 kf yep
11:41 kf I agree
11:41 kf clean start for 3.12
11:41 kf jcamins: what do you think?
11:42 jcamins +1
11:43 magnuse hm, will that mess things up for the rmaint?
11:43 magnuse close "pushed to stable" first, perhaps?
11:44 kf magnuse: btw why are you not there to be a bug wrangler, hm? :)
11:44 kf because apparently you care for the bugs :)
11:45 magnuse yeah, but i will have so little time for them in the next half year, if things go to plan
11:46 magnuse so i'd rather do what i can, without promising to do anything in particular
11:47 magnuse wow, 557 bugs are pushed to master, 466 pushed to stable
11:47 kf not too bad
11:49 magnuse but that's ~1000 bugs that should be closed, or am i thinking about it wrong?
11:49 jcamins No, you are right.
11:50 magnuse or at least marked as resolved fixed
11:50 magnuse &cumulate=0&y_axis_field=bug_status&acti​on=wrap&format=bar&width=1300&height=350 all the statuses
11:51 kf paste?
11:51 wahanui paste is found at
11:52 kf bugzilla needs a way to shorten the urls
11:52 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "graph of all statuses" (1 line) at
11:52 magnuse good idea(s) kf
11:54 kf lots of new bugs too
11:54 kf maybe some of them could be assigned
11:58 jcamins I'm not sure that "Default" is translatable for MARC21 authorities.
11:59 kf every time I close a ticket today, a new ticket comes in....
11:59 kf jcamins: it's from the templates
11:59 kf we did a trick here for bibliographic
12:00 kf if something = default %]Default[% or so
12:00 jcamins Oh, I see.
12:09 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "graph: severity of NEW bugs" (1 line) at
12:11 kf hm are those only the open bugs magnuse?
12:11 kf hm yeah must be :)
12:11 jcamins Yay!
12:11 kf I don't like the 30 critical
12:11 jcamins I got the debug panel working!
12:11 kf yay :)
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12:14 mtompset 30 critical bugs?!
12:18 mtompset But yes, 8332 is yours, kf. ;)
12:18 mtompset I mean 8832.
12:19 kf bug 8332
12:19 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8332 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add relationships to auth_finder for authority links
12:19 kf hm?
12:19 magnuse kf: it should be only NEW bugs, not assigned or anything
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12:20 mtompset bug 8832
12:20 oleonard Hi #koha
12:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8832 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , can't enter a tax rate on vendor or when ordering
12:20 magnuse jcamins: you are putting your cool findings on the wiki, right? ;-)
12:20 mtompset Sorry 8332 was a typo on my part.
12:21 mtompset Greetings, oleonard.
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12:23 tcohen @wunder Cordoba, Argentina
12:23 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 14.0°C (9:00 AM ART on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
12:23 mtompset greetings, tcohen.
12:23 tcohen hi mtompset
12:24 mtompset I've never seen so much red before. I guess I never searched for critical or blockers before.
12:25 tcohen he he
12:27 mtompset Severity: blocker, critical Status: UNCONFIRMED, NEW, REOPENED, ASSIGNED, In Discussion, Needs Signoff, Failed QA, VERIFIED -- 49 bugs
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12:31 mtompset Thankfully, 5 are fixed. :) -- 1 failed. :( -- 2 need signoff. :) -- 9 assigned and in discussion -- plus the 32 which are new, 2 of which are blocker (that leave the 30 which kf was likely referring to before)
12:33 jcamins Okay, I need to enable NYTProf only when a parameter is set.
12:33 jcamins Tricky.
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12:36 mtompset a profiler? How are you using it?
12:36 jcamins With Plack.
12:37 jcamins The question is whether there's any way I can prevent it running all the time, 'cause it's slow.
12:37 mtompset Ah, to generate comparative numbers with plack on and off?
12:37 jcamins No.
12:37 jcamins I don't care how much faster Plack is than Apache.
12:38 jcamins I often profile my code.
12:40 mtompset How about an ugly solution of a script wrapper?
12:41 jcamins That wouldn't help.
12:41 jcamins I'm using Plack.
12:41 jcamins That's how I do it with Apache.
12:41 jcamins I think I found the way to do it.
12:42 jcamins Oh, no, that won't work.
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12:43 jcamins Oh well. Guess I'll have to uncomment the NYTProf block when I want to profile code.
12:44 drojf how fast is that on a normal machine? it was unbearably slow on the raspberry pi
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12:45 jcamins drojf: the maintenance page takes .25s.
12:45 jcamins For the first load.
12:45 * jcamins refreshes.
12:45 jcamins .08 for the second.
12:45 * jcamins still doesn't have any data.
12:46 drojf with NYTProf running? wow, i did not expect that. i think it took minutes on the pi :D
12:48 jcamins No, this is with NYTProf disabled.
12:48 jcamins With NYTProf enabled, it takes 2.5s.
12:49 drojf ah, that makes more sense
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13:07 kf paul_p++
13:07 jcamins clrh++
13:08 clrh ^ ^ I say nothing here for some days but thanks, for the blog post I suppose ?
13:08 jcamins Yup. :)
13:08 kf :)
13:08 kf clrh++
13:15 mtompset Such a pretty graph going down. :)
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13:23 mtompset Have a good day (24 hours), everyone. Bye, #koha. :)
13:24 magnuse clrh++
13:25 jcamins Okay, I definitely need some data.
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13:52 * wizzyrea waves
13:56 magnuse \o/
13:57 kf hi wizzyrea :)
13:57 kf @wunder Konstanz
13:57 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.0°C (3:50 PM CEST on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
13:58 kf rain... is an understatement
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14:18 slef kf: Conditions: Underwater.?
14:18 kf cöpse
14:18 kf close
14:18 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks
14:18 kf lol - typing with 10 fingers only works right when you have your hands in the right position :)
14:18 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 10.8°C (9:14 AM CDT on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
14:18 paul_p @wunder Marseille
14:18 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 27.0°C (4:00 PM CEST on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
14:18 wizzyrea chillyish, but pretty.
14:18 wizzyrea it's nice in marseille though :)
14:19 paul_p wizzyrea: come to see us :D
14:19 wizzyrea :D
14:19 drojf wow the frenchies still got summer
14:19 paul_p my wife and son went to the beach last sunday, and ... swimmed ;-)
14:19 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
14:19 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Pankow, Weissensee, Germany is 12.9°C (4:16 PM CEST on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
14:19 paul_p drojf: not all frenchies, but in south, it's a very nice beginning of automn
14:19 * paul_p head to QA& push patches...
14:20 drojf @wunder munich, germany
14:20 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Munich, Germany is 14.0°C (3:50 PM CEST on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
14:20 drojf it's over in southern germany
14:20 maximep @wunder cyqb
14:20 huginn maximep: The current temperature in lac st-charles, quebec city, Quebec is 8.9°C (10:17 AM EDT on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
14:21 drojf no summer for "the other frenchies" *hides*
14:21 maximep well it's almost summer. Really a great day here =)
14:22 drojf ok your definition of summer may be different ;)
14:22 kf drojf: munich?
14:23 maximep well let's just say that beach are closed :p
14:24 drojf kf: bavaria had 24° not long ago. i'm not in munich and not planning to go
14:24 kf ah
14:24 kf ah well
14:24 kf the octoberfest is over anyway ;)
14:24 kf cait?
14:24 wahanui i guess cait is in Munich in a Dirndl
14:24 kf forget cait
14:24 wahanui kf: I forgot cait
14:24 drojf lol i would never go there
14:24 drojf ok i would to see you in a dirndl
14:24 drojf lol
14:25 kf wahanui: cait doesn't own a Dirndl and is not planning to buy one.
14:25 wahanui OK, kf.
14:25 kf cait?
14:25 kf ah, I messed that sentence up
14:25 kf ah, doesn't matter
14:25 kf kf?
14:25 wahanui you are cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
14:26 drojf heh
14:26 drojf cait?
14:26 drojf poor bot
14:26 wahanui poor bot is probably just tired
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14:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2930 [REVISED] Put other name on checkout screen <[…]609ea3a4011e3c91f> / Bug 8772 - Uninitialized variable triggers error log entry in <[…]7fa4979154369a393> / Bug 8652 follow-up adding more tests <
14:31 oleonard @seen wizzyrea
14:31 huginn oleonard: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 12 minutes and 12 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> :D
14:31 oleonard Well whaddaya know
14:32 kf cait?
14:32 kf drojf: just checking..
14:34 drojf kf: are you implying i would have a private conversation with wahanui to teach him stuff?
14:37 kf I would never... well...
14:42 drojf you won't check forever…
14:43 oleonard Has anyone used the "delete old patrons" tool in production?
14:44 kf oleonard: on a test install testing a patch once
14:44 kf hm not, that was anonymizing I think :(
14:45 kf I think I am too worried about this tool
14:45 oleonard Yeah, both of those are scary options
14:46 kf they make sense .... but I would only use them after doing extensive testing
14:46 kf the crux with the anonymizing tool is that is reports usccess and does nothing
14:46 kf unless you have an anonymous borrower set up
14:47 kf I reported a bug for that
14:47 kf oh wow
14:47 kf the meeting is tomorrow
14:48 kf drojf++
14:48 kf cait?
14:48 drojf lol
14:48 kf drojf: which time is that for us?
14:48 drojf 12
14:49 drojf maybe have lunch early
14:49 drojf might take a while
14:49 kf hm yeah, or have lunch at the desk
14:49 oleonard Is it the case now that Koha will choose the next valid email address when sending notices?
14:50 drojf i vote for you if you do a dirndl presentation
14:50 kf buy me one... then we can talk again
14:51 drojf heh ok i'll shut up :)
14:52 kf that was easy :)
14:52 drojf i wonder how baking chocolate chip cookies with some mango-habanero-sauce would turn out
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14:58 kf sounds interesting
15:00 drojf i will find out soon. just need soft butter. where is the cat we use for that purpose?
15:01 jcamins_away drojf: amazing!
15:01 jcamins At least, that's my theory.
15:03 drojf that's what i think
15:06 jcamins I figure of curried coconut oatmeal chocolate chip cookies are delicious, chocolate chip mango-habanero cookies would be delicious too.
15:06 kf yum.
15:08 oleonard Does the number of messages contained in a notice "digest" depend on how often your message queue is processed?
15:08 kf hmm
15:08 kf I think not
15:08 wizzyrea It *thought* it happened once every 24 hours regardless
15:08 kf because the messages are generated by a separate job
15:08 kf advance-notices
15:08 kf and overdue_notices
15:08 wizzyrea or whenever the crons run.
15:09 kf so it would dependon how often you run those, but would always get all for the specific date I think
15:09 kf at least for overdues, due and predue
15:09 kf does that make sense?
15:10 oleonard I'm thinking about the discussion around the patron-self-registration feature, where it sounded like we would need to reduce the frequency of to minutes in order to send out confirmation emails
15:10 kf ah
15:11 kf I think it wouldn't effect the notces I mentioned
15:11 kf what else ... hold messages are 1 each
15:11 kf the circ slips I think do their own timing thing
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15:18 wizzyrea yea I was wondering why we don't just skip the message queue and time them independently, on demand.
15:18 wizzyrea cronning messages only makes sense when there's a chance you might add more to the message
15:18 wizzyrea at a later time
15:21 oleonard Yeah if you're choosing an interval for the advance_notices cron job why not send straight away on that interval
15:22 wizzyrea i'm not sure why you wouldn't just send it when the user submits, like every other website out ther.e
15:22 oleonard For the OPAC registrations certainly
15:24 wizzyrea right that's what I'm referring to
15:25 oleonard So wait, how are item checkout notices generated? Not via cron job?
15:29 oleonard Checkout notices get sent out with every run of, so running that every minute
15:29 oleonard ...will mean no digest-like functionality
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15:32 kf wizzyrea: the message_queue is good for reporting
15:32 wizzyrea yep
15:32 gerundio hi, I'm just starting installing Koha and I'm having some doubts regargind the "Primary language for Zebra indexing  (en, fr, nb)" step
15:32 kf reading back now
15:33 gerundio how can I add more languages to select there?
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15:34 kf gerundio: we are using it with en I think (for german) I am not sure an option for each language is required
15:34 kf gerundio: which language would you need?
15:35 gerundio Portuguese and possible others languages with additional ponctuation
15:35 gerundio so I guess EN is out of the equation
15:35 jcamins gerundio: use fr.
15:35 gerundio I was thinking about it :)
15:35 jcamins Actually...
15:36 * jcamins thinks about it a bit more.
15:36 jcamins Don't do anything until I've had another thirty seconds to think.
15:36 kf I think the punctuation should not matter so much
15:36 kf we have umlauts
15:37 kf jcamins: what is different for the different settings?
15:37 jcamins French.
15:37 jcamins Sorting.
15:37 wahanui i think sorting is a Monday job
15:37 kf ah
15:37 jcamins Use French.
15:37 kf maybe never run into problems so far then
15:37 kf yeah, french sounds sensible
15:37 jcamins No, you won't run into problems with German.
15:37 jcamins Probably not with Spanish or Italian, either.
15:38 * jcamins doesn't know the Portuguese alphabet very well.
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15:38 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: BUG 8652: Add a default value for the lateorders
15:38 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8652: Followup: add a default value for date_from
15:38 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8652 follow-up adding more tests
15:38 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8772 - Uninitialized variable triggers error log entry in
15:38 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 2930 [REVISED] Put other name on checkout screen
15:38 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8652 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , There is no default value for the late orders
15:38 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8772 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Uninitialized variable triggers error log entry in
15:38 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2930 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Put other name on checkout screen
15:38 jcamins The Scandinavian languages... there you'd have a problem.
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15:40 gerundio well, I'm adding all the locales to the system no
15:40 gerundio now ^
15:40 gerundio lets see if the list shows additional languages
15:40 jcamins It won't.
15:41 jcamins You have four options.
15:41 jcamins English, French, Norwegian, and Russian.
15:41 gerundio ok, so they're fixed
15:41 jcamins It has nothing to do with locales.
15:43 kf eek, more rain :(
15:43 kf @wunder Konstanz
15:43 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.3°C (5:40 PM CEST on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
15:43 kf light rain... joking
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15:54 oleonard kf and wizzyrea, how is the message queue useful for reporting?
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16:01 kf the notices tab builds on it
16:01 kf and if someone tell you they didn't get any overdues notice you can check
16:01 kf or if they say that a book was not listed
16:02 kf or whatever.
16:02 wizzyrea ^^
16:02 kf I always get an aaah for that feature when presenting
16:03 kf wizzyrea: do you happen to have a training planfor serials? :)
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16:04 wizzyrea we don't use serials :/
16:05 kf ah, ok :)
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16:05 kf oh
16:05 kf it isn't that scary... really!
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16:06 oleonard I think we're waiting for an option to be able to allow item-level holds only on specific types (or categories) of titles
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16:06 oleonard Because right now we don't want to offer patrons item-level holds, and that would prevent them from placing holds on specific magazine issues
16:07 kf :(
16:07 kf it would be possible
16:07 kf with one of my favourite bugs
16:07 * jcamins tosses wizzyrea some duct tape.
16:07 kf but it missed the deadline
16:07 kf[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5786
16:07 huginn Bug 5786: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, In Discussion , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix
16:08 kf the latest patch also has opacitemholds in the circ matrix
16:08 kf which is what you want I think
16:08 kf it has lots of sign-offs but paul found a problem that srdjan couldn't confirm
16:08 kf so it's stuck
16:08 kf and will miss another release, after already missing the last one :(
16:09 jcamins Do we have a sample patron generator?
16:11 oleonard Seems like a good use of a comment-spam-user generation bot's feature set
16:12 jcamins oleonard: actually, that's a really good idea.
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16:17 oleonard 5786 is one of those bugs that makes my head spin
16:17 kf I hope it can go in very early in 3.12
16:17 kf so we get a lot of time tofigure out problems with it
16:18 kf but it would make my life a lot easier if allowonshelfholds and opacitemholds were on circ matrix level
16:19 kf bye all :)
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16:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7873 follow-up s/tab/4spaces/ <[…]b5ba085888c9f4ad5> / Bug 7873: fixes sort on Title in OPAC basket <[…]8e27ac24f984b22e8> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8741' <[…];h=238aa44379fdf7
16:36 gaetan_B bye
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17:13 cait back:)
17:15 wizzyrea ha, this is awesome:[…]g-live-links.html
17:16 wizzyrea imagine if you will, a printed cart, with links to the catalog that are qr's
17:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #873: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/873/
17:24 jenkins_koha * frederick.capovilla: Bug 8570 - Add pagination to the Z39.50 results page
17:24 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8570 follow-up removing tabs & improving indentation
17:24 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8570 follow-up removing tabs & improving indentation
17:24 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 8741 - crontab.example missing username, fails in some systems
17:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8570 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , Add pagination to the Z39.50 results page
17:24 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7873: fixes sort on Title in OPAC basket
17:24 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7873 follow-up s/tab/4spaces/
17:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8741 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , crontab.example missing username, fails in some systems
17:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7873 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Title sort in OPAC basket doesn't work
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17:57 mib_e5zz3g hi
18:03 jcamins complicated?
18:03 wahanui complicated is probably far too mild a term to describe
18:03 jcamins confusing?
18:14 libsysguy rangi? (not sure if your here yet)
18:15 libsysguy @later tell rangi this is still my favorite dub of all time[…]ownlink-existence
18:15 huginn libsysguy: The operation succeeded.
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18:24 rambutan oleonard (or others): any general philosophical comments on nodejs?
18:24 * oleonard doesn't know enough to comment
18:25 jcamins rambutan: isn't that server-side JS?
18:28 rambutan yes. We have an app we're working on using mostly php for server side, and one of the group wants to redo it in nodejs
18:31 oleonard Just for the sake of using nodejs?
18:31 cait ^^ I think that's a good question
18:31 jcamins rambutan: I've heard good things about nodejs, and it worked well when I had a Javascript application that I wanted to run on the server instead of the browser (Zotero), but I wouldn't rewrite anything to use it.
18:32 libsysguy I tried to write a page scraper in it once
18:32 libsysguy and had mixed results
18:32 rambutan I asked him that exact question (via email), haven't gotten a reply.
18:32 libsysguy i ended up using perl instead
18:33 rambutan Well, I think we're going to have to redo some of the php anyway.
18:35 libsysguy what is the app for?
18:35 libsysguy and would it be better served to write it in php or node
18:35 libsysguy languages are just tools, you should pick the right one for the right job
18:36 libsysguy at least that is my philosophy
18:36 rambutan
18:37 rambutan This is a public access control system
18:38 rambutan the main coder for this wants to use nodejs, but if he kept it in php us others could probably help him more.
18:39 cait did he work with nodejs in hte past?
18:39 rambutan no, I think it's a new toy :)
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18:39 cait hm that's not a plus then :)
18:42 drojf cookies!
18:42 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies
18:42 cait so right wahanui, so right
18:42 * cait wishes she had some
18:43 cait drojf: did you try it?
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18:44 drojf yes. very nice. could have used even more of the chilistuff, i was a little shy.
18:44 cait next time
18:44 wahanui somebody said next time was in 87 years or something... ;-)
18:44 drojf and gluten free too
18:45 cait what wrere the other ingredients?
18:45 * oleonard wonders what wahanui is waiting 87 years for
18:46 drojf the usual. butter, flour, sugar, an egg, and chocolate of course
18:46 jcamins drojf: do error messages (404, etc.) work for you under Plack?
18:47 jcamins jcamins?
18:47 wahanui i think jcamins is either blind sided with arrogance for me even to bring up this inquiry as if he has seen this before or he can not be bothered, and an embarrasement to my software comunity.
18:47 drojf lol
18:48 drojf good question. let me see
18:48 drojf i just get "not found" if i open an url that does not exist
18:49 jcamins drojf: that's what I get, too, thanks.
18:54 rambutan here's the feedback on nodejs from the guy I was talking about earlier, if anyone is interested...
18:54 rambutan we've found that nodejs actually much easier, and significantly faster in many cases.  Plus I really enjoy working in it.  It also allows you to develop a full application.  Instead of executing at request.  So it can sit there and listen at alternate ports, and perform many operations.
18:55 drojf jcamins: are you using starman now?
18:55 jcamins drojf: I am, yes.
18:56 * oleonard can't believe 1024x768 is now considered "tablet size"
18:56 cait forget jcamins
18:56 wahanui cait: I forgot jcamins
18:56 drojf was that readily available or did you have to build/cpan it? i remember it was not available in an approrpiate version when i tried it on the raspberry pi first
18:57 cait jcamins is running for release manager for 3.12 and a his work on authorities is amazing!
18:57 cait jcamins?
18:57 wahanui jcamins is probably running for release manager for 3.12 and a his work on authorities is amazing!
18:57 jcamins drojf: I decided to use Ubuntu Precise so that I wouldn't have to CPAN so much.
18:58 drojf ah right you said so. and i just checked on the pi and see a 3.001-1
19:03 drojf that reminds me… i wanted to ask dpavlin_ what is in his prod.psgi. how does it work with opac and staff client in starman? do you just throw both files together?
19:03 jcamins drojf: it doesn't.
19:03 drojf ah. great ;)
19:03 jcamins Remember how I spent three hours this morning messing with my Plack config?
19:03 jcamins That's why.
19:03 drojf ouch :(
19:03 drojf i see
19:03 * jcamins will share, once he has the last bugs worked out.
19:04 jcamins Like the error documents.
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19:18 drojf considering that my opac tries to load forever with starman, i will wait for your findings ;) and i sent a mail to dpavlin_ asking for his config file
19:21 jcamins drojf: if you have any idea how to get the error documents working, pointers are much appreciated. :)
19:23 jcamins Also any hints how to get useful information in the logs.
19:29 drojf maybe i do
19:29 drojf seen this?[…]e::ErrorDocument/
19:29 wahanui I haven't seen 'this', drojf
19:29 jcamins Yes, but I haven't figured out how to use it yet.
19:30 * jcamins figures that probably has the solution... somewhere.
19:30 drojf let's me try
19:37 drojf browser "file not found" instead of the other "not found" is at least different :)
19:40 drojf ok i see, that does not really work for me either. enabling the sub request brings back the old error and does not really do a GET at all
19:40 jcamins Yeah, that's what I found.
19:44 jcamins drojf: puzzling, isn't it?
19:45 drojf indeed
19:47 drojf have you tried package Plack::Middleware::ErrorDocument::App ?
19:48 * jcamins has not.
19:48 jcamins I don't think I saw that.
19:48 * cait loves watching drojf and jcamins
19:48 * cait cheers them on :)
19:48 oleonard Bye #koha
19:48 drojf[…]orDocument/
19:48 jcamins Deprecated, though?
19:51 jcamins Ohhh... I bet it's because the error pages return errors.
19:52 rangi hmm still no qa on bug 3652?
19:52 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , XSS vulnerabilities
19:52 rangi and morning
19:53 cait :(
20:02 drojf ha
20:03 jcamins Got it?
20:03 drojf i see my local error file at least
20:04 rangi what we should do
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20:04 rangi is make some way of rendering those error pages as static
20:04 rangi then serve them like that
20:23 drojf jcamins: i think you are right about the error pages returning errors :)
20:24 drojf when i have the working local 404.html and open /cgi-bin/koha/errors/ i get to my local file instead
20:25 jcamins Right, so a change to the various errorhandlers will fix it.
20:36 jcamins The problem with static errorhandlers is that we show different things depending on whether you're logged in or not.
20:39 drojf true
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21:12 jcamins Time to close up. Back from home, most likely.
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21:23 jenkins_koha oleonard: Bug 6037 [Follow-up] Invalid markup, missing breadcrumbs on Keyword to MARC Mapping page
21:23 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6037 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Invalid markup, missing breadcrumbs on Keyword to MARC Mapping page
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21:26 cait oh cool
21:26 cait maybe we can make it to the 200 end of year? or next year :) will be cool any time it happens
21:26 rangi yup
21:26 rangi[…]-perl-memory-use/
21:32 drojf "I've never felt so accepted in all of my life. These people look deep within my soul and assign me a number based on the order in which I joined."
21:33 cait is that a quote?
21:33 drojf yes. homer j. simpson at the stonecutters ;)
21:33 cait aah
21:34 cait masons?
21:38 drojf a simpson kind of freemasonish secret society. we should have a fancy song like they do
21:38 cait and a secret koha handshake? ;)
21:39 drojf exactly :)
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22:03 jenkins_koha jbalway: Bug 8680 Z39.50 ISBN Search is problematic and there is a missing ISSN field.
22:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8680 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Z39.50 searches for ISBN/ISSN problematic in the Acquistions Module
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22:05 eythian wahanui: yow
22:05 wahanui Is a tattoo real, like a curb or a battleship?  Or are we suffering in Safeway?
22:08 rambutan wahanui passes the turing test.
22:08 wahanui rambutan: excuse me?
22:20 rangi  <-- cool
22:22 jcamins_away rangi: very cool!
22:24 eythian yeah, that is a neat idea
22:25 jcamins This errordocument issue with Plack seems like something that many, many people would have encountered.
22:37 rambutan eythian: I should have said "new library bookmobile" in my email, vs just "new library"
22:37 eythian ah right
22:38 eythian there are trademark issues in NZ too, though I don't think they cover the logo. I don't think PTFS uses the real logo anyway.
22:38 rangi well there aren't yet, the TM still isnt registered
22:39 rangi but yeah its not for the logo, and no they dont use the real logo
22:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #197: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/197/
22:42 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8772 - Uninitialized variable triggers error log entry in
22:42 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 7873: fixes sort on Title in OPAC basket
22:42 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7873 follow-up s/tab/4spaces/
22:42 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8772 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Uninitialized variable triggers error log entry in
22:42 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7873 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Title sort in OPAC basket doesn't work
22:42 jcamins Mystery of the errordocuments solved.
22:43 jcamins Plack does not support Perl errorodocuments.
22:46 jcamins Ooh! Chocolate chips are on sale!
22:47 jcamins I shall have to buy 10lbs next week.
22:47 jcamins Excuse me, 9lbs.
22:47 * eythian brought boxes of hagelslag back from .nl :)
22:48 jcamins Hehe.
22:49 jcamins Guess I need html error pages.
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23:38 jcamins Does anyone know if dpavlin's system is publicly available?
23:41 jcamins Yes.
23:42 jcamins And error documents work perfectly.
23:46 jcamins And it's served by Apache.
23:46 jcamins Odd.
23:48 jcamins Who else announced their intention of putting Plack in production?
23:53 eythian well, are you using starman?
23:53 eythian or whatever it is?
23:53 jcamins eythian: I am indeed.
23:54 eythian I probably wouldn't use that in production, but instead mod_psgi or something. I haven't given it a lot of thought however.
23:54 * jcamins is not going to be changing his configuration at this point. :P
23:56 jcamins Well, this is a development server, so I will do without error documents.
23:56 jcamins What I can't figure out is why no one testing Plack has complained about this before.
23:58 jcamins I feel like it would be hard to miss.
23:59 eythian is it a starman limitation?
23:59 jcamins No, Plack.
23:59 eythian because people might be using other servers instead.
23:59 jcamins I asked on the PSGI IRC channel, and was told that PSGI did not allow it.

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