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mtompset |
How annoying. A reboot and mysql, apache, and koha-common services didn't start. |
| 00:10 |
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mtompset |
The reboot was purposefully triggered... The services not starting was annoying. |
| 00:39 |
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| 00:40 |
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idreambooks |
hello |
| 00:40 |
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idreambooks |
anyone here? |
| 00:49 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 00:50 |
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rangi |
its usually quiet this time of day, all the europeans asleep most north americans finished their working day |
| 01:02 |
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mtompset |
Wow that was a quick in and out. :) |
| 01:04 |
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mtompset |
This favorite icon bug is annoying me. |
| 01:06 |
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mtompset |
If I am using packages is it okay to replace "/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/favicon.ico"? |
| 01:07 |
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mtompset |
I have the staff client favorite icon setting filled in, but the login screen isn't using it. |
| 01:36 |
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mtj |
i think you are probably safe, but take a backup first, please!!! |
| 01:37 |
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mtompset |
wrong channel? |
| 01:37 |
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mtompset |
Oh, never mind. I'm a little slow. :) |
| 01:37 |
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mtompset |
Actually, I prefer the option of patching C4::Template. :) |
| 01:38 |
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mtompset |
Expressly defined the IntranetFavicon and OpacFavicon values in the gettemplate call. |
| 01:39 |
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mtompset |
Though, that probably means removing the params() calls with them in other code. |
| 01:40 |
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mtompset |
I could put in a "is_intranet" checking and only define one or the other, but I said... 2 lines of code, more lines of code... forget the checking! |
| 01:42 |
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mtompset |
Unless C4::Context->preference calls are considered too intensive to have both. ;) |
| 01:44 |
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| 01:45 |
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mtompset |
Oh, so much for that idea. |
| 01:46 |
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mtompset |
Master has that second of code commented out. |
| 01:50 |
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mtompset |
oops... section. |
| 01:50 |
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mtj |
sounds like a bug |
| 01:51 |
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| 01:51 |
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mtompset |
There's a comment saying the section wasn't deleted so the people that needed to know would know how we shimmed this. |
| 01:54 |
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chesterbarut |
hi newbie to koha community, i have an error on my pref, can't save what i have change, kind of a 'lock' , appreciate any help, tnx |
| 01:57 |
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mtompset |
Sorry, not sure if I can help. |
| 01:57 |
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mtompset |
I figured out those comments are jcamins_away's doing. ;) bug 8622 |
| 01:57 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8622 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha themes broken |
| 02:02 |
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chesterbarut |
hi hugginn how can i fix those bug (broken themes), tnx |
| 02:06 |
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rangi |
huginn is a bot and wasn't answering you |
| 02:06 |
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huginn |
rangi: downloading the Perl source |
| 02:06 |
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rangi |
you havent explained your problem well enough for us to help |
| 02:06 |
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rangi |
what version of koha are you using |
| 02:06 |
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rangi |
and what exactly is happening ... you are trying to save a system preference? |
| 02:10 |
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wajasu |
looking at AutoAddAuthorities with authority generate on. AND broader_headings. |
| 02:12 |
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chesterbarut |
koha 3.8.4, when i change any of the system pref, and save it, this is what prompts "error; your data might not have been saved" |
| 02:13 |
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rangi |
logout and login again and try again |
| 02:13 |
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rangi |
you didnt do something like set the timeout really really low or something did you? |
| 02:14 |
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wajasu |
i have a subhect heading field 630, with a, p, v subfieds. but after the link, the 630 field has nothing (no a, p, v subfield monikers), so the broadly matched authority record trashed this 630 field, so i get the indicators issue. |
| 02:15 |
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chesterbarut |
we just change the default time out (in seconds) to a day |
| 02:15 |
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wajasu |
maybe a blind "map" is too naive |
| 02:15 |
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rangi |
thats the problem, that wont work |
| 02:15 |
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chesterbarut |
so what can we do to fix it |
| 02:15 |
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rangi |
you will need to edit it back to integer value in the database |
| 02:16 |
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rangi |
the help there is lies |
| 02:16 |
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rangi |
it can only take numeric values |
| 02:16 |
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rangi |
1d gets evaluated as 1 second |
| 02:16 |
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wajasu |
i got burned on that once |
| 02:17 |
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rangi |
update systempreferences set value='1000000' where variable='timeout' |
| 02:17 |
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rangi |
somethign like that anyway, in the database will fix it |
| 02:18 |
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chesterbarut |
ok, will try it, a lot of thanks guys, (rangi) for the help, hope it will work |
| 02:26 |
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| 02:29 |
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mtj |
so , how to index zebra, using the packages , on 3.6.x |
| 02:30 |
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mtj |
koha-rebuild-zebra, is for reindexing... |
| 02:31 |
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mtj |
ah, click… :) -f |
| 02:52 |
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mtompset |
mtj, I had some massive headaches with a reindex yesterday. |
| 02:52 |
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mtompset |
bug 6566 |
| 02:52 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6566 enhancement, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , Checking if DB records are properly indexed |
| 02:52 |
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mtompset |
This script helped solve problems. |
| 02:53 |
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mtompset |
I didn't have any bad data, just zebra was totally barfing on me. |
| 02:53 |
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mtompset |
So if you get a malformed tag or can't read whole MARC record type error. |
| 02:54 |
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mtompset |
Give that script a whirl. |
| 02:54 |
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mtompset |
After multiple runs, the ones that keep failing to be reindexed are very likely data problems. |
| 03:13 |
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| 03:21 |
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halcyonCorsair |
rangi: trying out a one-hit ec2 koha provision now :) |
| 03:21 |
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rangi |
sweet |
| 04:09 |
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bag |
evening |
| 04:09 |
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wahanui |
somebody said evening was better for me - but not too late |
| 04:09 |
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| 04:09 |
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bag |
heya cait |
| 04:09 |
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cait |
hi bag |
| 04:27 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, halcyonCorsair bag cait. |
| 04:28 |
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bag |
:) |
| 04:28 |
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halcyonCorsair |
hello |
| 04:32 |
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bag |
I had some success with bug 7736 today |
| 04:32 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7736 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mark.gavillet, Needs Signoff , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality |
| 04:33 |
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bag |
I've got some feedback - so I'll post that soon. And I'll work with a few book vendors here to see if the edifact order results - work for them :) |
| 04:44 |
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cait |
bag: cool :) |
| 04:45 |
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bag |
ah cait just hhit submit on my comments |
| 04:45 |
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bag |
heh |
| 04:45 |
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* cait |
goes to check her inbox :) |
| 04:46 |
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cait |
ah cool |
| 04:47 |
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bag |
cait: it works for all of their examples :) |
| 04:47 |
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cait |
using the currency configuration in Koha sounds like it would make sense |
| 04:47 |
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bag |
agreed |
| 04:47 |
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bag |
:) |
| 04:47 |
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cait |
people here ask about EDIFACT sometimes |
| 04:48 |
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cait |
but I think in our other project we had only 1 or 2 libraries actually using it |
| 04:48 |
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bag |
heh |
| 04:48 |
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bag |
yeah same here |
| 04:48 |
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bag |
everyone knows the term - but few hardly use it |
| 04:50 |
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mtompset |
-- every librarian or person who is versed in the geekdom of librarihood knows the term. ;) |
| 04:53 |
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bag |
*sigh* I wish I could brainwash every librarian - into believing that charging fines are/is stupid |
| 04:53 |
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cait |
lol |
| 04:53 |
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bag |
I was running on the "knows the term" |
| 04:53 |
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cait |
maybe we should go for fixing the feature instead |
| 04:53 |
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bag |
remove term - fines - from all librarians heads |
| 04:54 |
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cait |
they will find another term |
| 04:54 |
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bag |
I love - love - suspension in days and try to talk every librarian here into using that instead of money fines |
| 04:54 |
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cait |
and then we wil lhave to rename everything! |
| 04:54 |
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cait |
not sure it would work here |
| 04:55 |
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bag |
yeah cait I have not talked one library into using it.. And I've tried on 500+ libraries in the US |
| 04:55 |
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bag |
I'm ready to move to germany and convince a library there :) |
| 04:56 |
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cait |
ok, you are welcome :) |
| 04:56 |
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bag |
heh |
| 04:56 |
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cait |
I am still missing having eythian around |
| 04:56 |
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bag |
yeah |
| 04:57 |
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bag |
hey cait have you seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]4G-Q&feature=plcp |
| 04:57 |
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bag |
that's the dragon :) |
| 04:57 |
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cait |
I woud love to - but I can't :( |
| 04:57 |
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cait |
GEMA is blocking it for me |
| 04:57 |
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bag |
oh man |
| 04:57 |
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cait |
because of the music |
| 04:57 |
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bag |
oh |
| 04:57 |
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cait |
I saw some photos somewhere and she looked super cute |
| 04:57 |
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bag |
yeah it's got music on it |
| 04:58 |
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bag |
awwwwhhh thanks cait |
| 04:58 |
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bag |
well that's a bummer |
| 04:59 |
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cait |
about the video? |
| 04:59 |
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cait |
it happens often when rangi shares links with me too... they are quite strict here :( |
| 05:00 |
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bag |
bummer |
| 05:00 |
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bag |
are you on facebook? |
| 05:00 |
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cait |
hm not really |
| 05:01 |
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bag |
good cause I don't post there :) |
| 05:01 |
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cait |
heh |
| 05:01 |
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bag |
well not actively :) |
| 05:01 |
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bag |
alright that was my joke for the day :) |
| 05:01 |
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bag |
at least I got one laugh |
| 05:02 |
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cait |
my day only started, so it's an early joke |
| 05:02 |
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mtompset |
looks like an angel. |
| 05:02 |
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mtompset |
Loved the sunglasses and the tongue sticking out a bit. ;) |
| 05:02 |
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bag |
hey thanks :) |
| 05:02 |
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bag |
that's our rainbow baby - dragon (it's the year of the dragon) |
| 05:03 |
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cait |
I don't see fangs or scales, so all good |
| 05:04 |
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mtompset |
I wish my facial hair looked that good. Mine is so uncontrollable. |
| 05:05 |
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cait |
you know, she is a girl .. |
| 05:05 |
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mtompset |
(talking about the few shots of daddy) |
| 05:05 |
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cait |
lol |
| 05:06 |
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mtompset |
ha za! I found an even better solution, I think,. |
| 05:06 |
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bag |
heh |
| 05:06 |
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bag |
yeah mtompset our first daughter is acutally the only one to have a koha release dedicated to her :) |
| 05:06 |
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* cait |
starts working on her it law homework - meh |
| 05:06 |
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bag |
http://koha-community.org/koha-3-4-0-released/ |
| 05:07 |
|
bag |
law homework! |
| 05:07 |
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cait |
part of my distance study, it's only one course |
| 05:07 |
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bag |
meh is right |
| 05:08 |
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mtompset |
memoriam?! oh my. |
| 05:09 |
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bag |
that's my favorite release - I think koha should have stopped :) |
| 05:10 |
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cait |
it was a good release and a good name for it |
| 05:11 |
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mtompset |
To ruin a good Bogart line, "You'll always have 3.4.0" |
| 05:11 |
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mtompset |
Haere. MÅu tai ata; mÅku tai ahiahi |
| 05:11 |
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mtompset |
What does that mean? |
| 05:12 |
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bag |
it fails me right now |
| 05:12 |
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bag |
I mean I don't remember |
| 05:12 |
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bag |
mtj? |
| 05:12 |
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wahanui |
DeM KraZy NutZ!! |
| 05:12 |
|
bag |
rangi? |
| 05:12 |
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wahanui |
I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 05:12 |
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bag |
they would know |
| 05:12 |
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cait |
yeah |
| 05:15 |
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cait |
perhaps it's in the logs somewhere |
| 05:23 |
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bag |
"Go your way. The morning tide is for you; the evening tide is for me |
| 05:23 |
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bag |
Death is inevitable and is everyone's destiny" |
| 05:34 |
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halcyonCorsair |
my brain has gone to mush...the code should be owned by the koha user, yes? |
| 05:36 |
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halcyonCorsair |
rangi: woot http://50.19.36.178:8080 first ec2/chef provisioned koha instance |
| 05:38 |
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mtompset |
cait, do you use a different favorite icon than the default koha one? |
| 05:41 |
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halcyonCorsair |
where can i search and download natlib records? |
| 05:43 |
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halcyonCorsair |
ah got it |
| 05:45 |
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cait |
mtompset: no |
| 05:58 |
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mtompset |
I guess icons aren't such a big thing compared to logos. ;) |
| 05:59 |
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cait |
noone asked for it so far |
| 06:03 |
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| 06:04 |
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cait |
morning mbalmer |
| 06:04 |
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mbalmer |
hello cait, #koha |
| 06:05 |
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mtompset |
Well, I just fixed a bug related to them. bug 8737 |
| 06:05 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8737 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Incorrect icon at login in staff client |
| 06:06 |
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mtompset |
I was hoping someone on the channel could confirm they have the same problem. :) |
| 06:06 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, mbalmer. |
| 06:06 |
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mtompset |
mbalmer? |
| 06:06 |
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wahanui |
DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! |
| 06:06 |
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mtompset |
It's still set. :) |
| 06:07 |
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mbalmer |
@wahanui forget mbalmer |
| 06:07 |
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huginn |
mbalmer: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 06:07 |
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mtompset |
Forget the @ |
| 06:07 |
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wahanui |
mtompset: I forgot @ |
| 06:07 |
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mtompset |
wahanui forget mbalmer |
| 06:07 |
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wahanui |
mtompset: I forgot mbalmer |
| 06:07 |
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mbalmer |
hehe, tnx! |
| 06:07 |
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mtompset |
mbalmer? |
| 06:08 |
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mtompset |
@quote random |
| 06:08 |
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huginn |
mtompset: Quote #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!" (added by jdavidb at 09:40 PM, July 17, 2009) |
| 06:08 |
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mtompset |
@quote random |
| 06:08 |
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huginn |
mtompset: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009) |
| 06:08 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 06:09 |
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mtompset |
why? |
| 06:09 |
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mtompset |
@quote random |
| 06:09 |
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huginn |
mtompset: Quote #101: "<darling> I still need to catch up with current Koha. Is pretty dreamy already." (added by gmcharlt at 02:44 AM, October 29, 2010) |
| 06:13 |
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mtompset |
matts? |
| 06:13 |
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wahanui |
matts is his nick |
| 06:13 |
|
mtompset |
matts_away? |
| 06:13 |
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wahanui |
matts_away is leaving the party :) |
| 06:13 |
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cait |
heh |
| 06:13 |
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mtompset |
cait? |
| 06:13 |
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wahanui |
That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) or a librarian, you will get wahanui's information or a hero or signing off on wahanui's patch :) or confused, that's why i am asking, and we shout write it down somewhere |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
mtompset: sorry, getting ready for work and all |
| 06:14 |
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mtompset |
No, I was just trying to see what wahanui thought. |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
shout write it down? uhoh |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
only explaining why not being very communicative this morning |
| 06:15 |
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mtompset |
Not a problem. It's morning for you. I understand. |
| 06:19 |
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cait |
... and time to leave |
| 06:19 |
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cait |
bbl :) |
| 06:23 |
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mtompset |
bonjour, alex_a1 |
| 06:27 |
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mtompset |
Looks like I need to go... |
| 06:27 |
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mtompset |
Just noticed ants coming out of my external hard drive. |
| 06:34 |
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| 06:36 |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 06:36 |
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wahanui |
hey, reiveune |
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|
* magnuse |
waves his hands in the air like a crazy person |
| 06:55 |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
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| 07:03 |
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magnuse |
hm, trying to run mtj's qa tools, but i'm just getting "Can't locate QohA/Git.pm in @INC" - anyone got a cure for that? |
| 07:07 |
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| 07:09 |
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drojf |
magnuse: do you have that file? it's in git at least https://github.com/KohaAloha/k[…]aster/QohA/Git.pm |
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| 07:15 |
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mtj |
magnuse, its a perl5lib thing.... |
| 07:15 |
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mtj |
mason xen1:~$ export |grep LIB |
| 07:15 |
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mtj |
declare -x PERL5LIB="/home/mason/git/head:/home/mason/git/head/C4/SIP:/home/mason/git/public/koha-qa-tools" |
| 07:16 |
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| 07:17 |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
| 07:17 |
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mtj |
im sure there's a to fix that, i just havent got roundtuit yet.. |
| 07:18 |
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mtj |
hiya gaetan_B :) |
| 07:20 |
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kf |
hi mtj :) |
| 07:20 |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
| 07:23 |
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drojf |
moin kf :) |
| 07:24 |
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magnuse |
thanks mtj, will try |
| 07:24 |
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kf |
hi drojf and magnuse |
| 07:24 |
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magnuse |
hiya kf |
| 07:27 |
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magnuse |
hm, this: $ declare -x $PERL5LIB="/home/magnus/scripts/kohadev:/home/magnus/scripts/koha-qa-tools/" |
| 07:27 |
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magnuse |
gives me this: bash: declare: `/home/magnus/scripts/kohadev=/home/magnus/scripts/kohadev:/home/magnus/scripts/koha-qa-tools/': not a valid identifier |
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| 07:28 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, again, #koha. I think the ants in the external harddrive have been dealt with. |
| 07:28 |
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kf |
hi magnuse - if you got time later - should we organise a bug squashing day before the freeze date? 22nd? |
| 07:28 |
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kf |
if yes, maybe should be next week, to give enough time for qa? |
| 07:29 |
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mtompset |
kf++ # great idea, in my opinion. :) |
| 07:29 |
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mtj |
magnuse, declare was the *output* of my export command |
| 07:29 |
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mtj |
not a command itself |
| 07:31 |
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mtj |
so, $ export PERL5LIB=/path/to/your/dir:"${PERL5LIB}" |
| 07:32 |
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magnuse |
kf: excellent idea! want to send out an email? |
| 07:32 |
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kf |
ugh |
| 07:32 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
| 07:32 |
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kf |
I should have known you would make me :) |
| 07:32 |
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kf |
o |
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kf |
k |
| 07:32 |
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mtj |
$ export PERL5LIB=/home/magnus/scripts/koha-qa-tools:"${PERL5LIB}" |
| 07:32 |
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kf |
but you pick the date! |
| 07:34 |
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magnuse |
yeah, that did the trick, thanks a ton mtj |
| 07:34 |
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magnuse |
hm, start of the week is bad for me personally. friday? |
| 07:35 |
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mtj |
magnuse, cool - heya cait :) |
| 07:38 |
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magnuse |
kf: how about friday? |
| 07:38 |
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wahanui |
friday is probably It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday |
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magnuse |
friday is pizzaday! |
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paul_p |
good morning #koha |
| 07:38 |
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magnuse |
friday? |
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wahanui |
friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday |
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magnuse |
hiya paul_p |
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kf |
magnuse: friday is ok with me |
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kf |
morning paul_p |
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kf |
we were discussing to have another gbsd on friday 14th |
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drojf |
kf: squashing on the train to berlin? |
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kf |
I would send a mail maybe after you explained the deadlines? |
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kf |
oh right |
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kf |
ugh |
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kf |
I mean lots of time, but probably lousy internet connection... |
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kf |
well |
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kf |
and conf on thursday |
| 07:46 |
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kf |
it might still be a good idea to have it friday |
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magnuse |
you will spend the day on a train? |
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kf |
yep |
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kf |
trapped in an ice for a few hours |
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kf |
but it's ok |
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kf |
I can prepare :) |
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kf |
create branches for stuff I want to test for example, then I only need a little bit of internet connection now and then |
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kf |
drojf and me have a koha even to run on saturday in berlin :) |
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mtompset |
weekend? |
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wahanui |
weekend is near! |
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mtompset |
friday? |
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wahanui |
i think friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday |
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mtompset |
weekend? |
| 07:52 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it weekend is partyin', partyin', partyin' YAH |
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magnuse |
kf: cool |
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* mtompset |
grins, "Might as well as keep the theme." |
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magnuse |
stand alone event, or part of something bigger? |
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Joubu |
hello |
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kf |
magnuse: smaller part of a bigger thing |
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drojf |
magnuse: local "day of the libraries" for berlin/brandenburg. i think we are the only ones talking about a certain piece of software |
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paul_p |
GBSD on 14th is a good idea |
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* paul_p |
writting RM newsletter with deadlines now |
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* kf |
growls at her outlook for forgetting the settings for the 10th time |
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magnuse |
kf and drojf: cool! |
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kf |
drojf: I started a mindmap for the presentation yesterday |
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kf |
will show you what I have as soon as there is something |
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drojf |
kf: do i assume proposals/ applications for 3.12 roles on the wiki are up to date or should i read the logs of the last meeting to see if somebody volunteered for something and is not in the list? |
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drojf |
kf: cool :) |
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kf |
hm I think it's up to date |
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kf |
i haven#t seen proposals only on the list |
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magnuse |
drojf: the wiki page should be authoritative |
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drojf |
ok great, less work :) |
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mtompset |
I didn't make it to the meeting. I was thinking a documentation heirarchy might be useful. ;) |
| 08:09 |
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magnuse |
documentation heirarchy? |
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drojf |
mtompset: for the roles (documentation manager…) or the documentation itself? |
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mtompset |
Not sure. whether logical or physical. |
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mtompset |
I see we have Installation documentation. |
| 08:11 |
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mtompset |
We have DB documentation. |
| 08:11 |
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mtompset |
And we have Use documentation. |
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mtompset |
The discussions about having the INSTALL.{OS} files convertable from the Wiki pages. |
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drojf |
we have managers for documentation of use and db. do you propose the role of an nstallation documentation manager? |
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mtompset |
I suppose which manager (doesn't really matter, because some are the same) |
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mtompset |
is responsible for installation documents? |
| 08:13 |
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mtompset |
Perhaps it doesn't need to be a new role, but under the manager overall? |
| 08:14 |
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mtompset |
That's the sort of idea(s) I wanted to bounce around. |
| 08:14 |
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mtompset |
Though nengard for docs is a good choice. :) |
| 08:15 |
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mtompset |
I just know, for example, that I (and perhaps tcohen), would like to keep the INSTALL.ubuntu documentation clean. |
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rangi |
id like to rewrite that to be 1 line |
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rangi |
Use the packagages |
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rangi |
but spelt correctly |
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drojf |
lol rangi |
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mtompset |
No, it needs to have ALL three methods. |
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mtompset |
Packages first. |
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mtompset |
Git second. |
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mtompset |
tarball last. |
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rangi |
yeah a wall of text is awesome |
| 08:17 |
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mtompset |
Well, here's the problem. |
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mtompset |
Yes, packages is best. |
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mtompset |
But where will the tarball instructions go? |
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mtompset |
We don't want to lose them. |
| 08:18 |
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mtompset |
They have minor usefulness to those not using debian based systems. |
| 08:18 |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
but not in the INSTALL.ubuntu file |
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magnuse |
nah, keep the typos, i say! |
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rangi |
there really is no reason to do a tarball install on ubuntu or debian, packages or git .. tarball instruction for the distributions that cant use packages |
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rangi |
or at least strongly discourage people from installing from tarball |
| 08:20 |
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mtompset |
I have on the wiki. |
| 08:21 |
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mtompset |
"There are three ways to install Koha: packages, tarball, and git. These instructions focus on the tarball installation, however the use of packages is the recommended method. Packages effectively have done most of the difficult work listed below. You can read the Debian package instructions for information on how to do that. If you are able to assist with the development and improvement of... |
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mtompset |
...Koha and this isn't for a production environment, consider installing a git version. Git is a version control system. Try to learn version control using git!" |
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mveron |
Good morning #koha :-) |
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mtompset |
Right at the top. With nice links. |
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drojf |
good morning mveron |
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mveron |
Hi drojf :-) |
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* mveron |
fetches coffee |
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kf |
drojf++ |
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kf |
and morning mveron |
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kf |
drojf: it was an excellent idea to volunteer you to write that mail ;) |
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drojf |
how could i disobey the will of the mighty chair? ;) |
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magnuse |
yeah drojf++ |
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kf |
you wouldn't date to :P |
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kf |
hm dare to... |
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mtompset |
What Koha version introduced packages? 3.4? |
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mveron |
hi kf |
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magnuse |
mtompset: see this from may 2010: http://koha-community.org/new-[…]al-koha-packages/ |
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mtompset |
That would mean as early as 3.0 |
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magnuse |
it was experimental at that stage, not sure when it "got serious" |
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rangi |
weve been using them in production since 3.4 |
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magnuse |
that's probably the best answer you will get, mtompset :-) |
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mtompset |
experimental 3.0, testing 3.2, production 3.4 |
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mtompset |
So, what were the repos called before oldstable and squeeze? |
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rangi |
nothing, squeeze has been around a while |
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kf |
mtompset: people shouldn't be installing older versions, is it really important? |
| 09:29 |
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mtompset |
Understanding history is important so that improvements, not fallbacks are made. |
| 09:30 |
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mtompset |
And yes, I know 3.4.x is not supported, but if I was wild and crazy, and wanted to run something on CentOS 5.8 (which is supported), it would have to be 3.4.x |
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rangi |
why? |
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mtompset |
Perl 5.8.8 is the default |
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rangi |
yes, but you can just use homebrew to install 5.10 |
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rangi |
theres no reason to ever install a version with known security issues |
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rangi |
no matter how crazy you are, that is just a bad idea |
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rangi |
http://search.cpan.org/~gugod/[…]b/App/perlbrew.pm |
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mtompset |
Well, installing 5.8 when there is a 6.3 is a bad idea. ;) |
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mtompset |
6.3 does have a default of 5.10 for perl. |
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drojf |
part of understanding history is to understand that it is history, not the present |
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kf |
good one drojf |
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drojf |
which oddly reminds me that my present should be writing a paper about history. damn. see you later |
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mtompset |
See you in he future. ;) |
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drojf |
:) |
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mtompset |
^he^the^ |
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* mtompset |
sees a DeLorean drive up and whisk drojf off. ;) |
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mtompset |
I just thought of a reason why the Wiki and INSTALL.{OS} file would be different. |
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mtompset |
packages. |
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wahanui |
i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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mtompset |
installing koha-common tells the person to read README.Debian in /usr/share/doc/koha-common |
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mtompset |
there is no INSTALL.{OS} file. |
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mtompset |
The INSTALL.{OS} file only exists in the tarball or git. |
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koyauni |
hi #KOHA, |
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wahanui |
hi #KOHA, is there an entry on the wiki for holdings data in post-3.2 versions of koha? |
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koyauni |
any idea if I have to set up SMTP in new installed Koha please |
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kf |
wahanui forget hi #KOHA |
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wahanui |
kf, I didn't have anything matching hi #koha |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
forget #KOHA |
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wahanui |
kf: I forgot #koha |
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kf |
koyauni: you don't set it up in Koha - it's on the server |
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kf |
koyauni: if the server can send email, Koha can |
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drojf |
wahanui forget hi #KOHA, |
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wahanui |
drojf: I forgot hi #koha, |
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koyauni |
we have our mailing system on google apps, do I do this steeing for our koha in Debian please http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_up_a_SMTP_server |
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koyauni |
well the google apps is setup for our server |
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koyauni |
and we have our apps attached to the main domain that koha uses |
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eythian |
koyauni: those instructions are for git, not for koha |
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eythian |
you need to tell your server how to send email |
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mtompset |
If someone can point me to a nice set of instructions for setting up email under Ubuntu that would be nice. |
| 10:31 |
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koyauni |
ok, the googe apps for my server is set up and it is working, |
| 10:31 |
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mtompset |
At this point in time, we aren't using mail. |
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eythian |
mtompset: sudo apt-get install postfix && sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix |
| 10:31 |
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mtompset |
Yes, and then I don't know how to answer any of the questions. |
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eythian |
actually, if you're doing a fresh install, you don't need the reconfigure |
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eythian |
mtompset: there is not really one answer to the questions, that's why it asks them |
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eythian |
it totally depends on how your server is to be set up. |
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eythian |
and integrated into the rest of the network |
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eythian |
http://www.complex.com/tech/20[…]013-goes-electric <-- drojf, mtompset |
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mtompset |
That's my problem. I don't know the answers in my context. |
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drojf |
eythian: i just saw that :D |
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drojf |
i think i'll wait for the hover board |
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eythian |
mtompset: ask your network administrator |
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mtompset |
hosting company? |
| 10:37 |
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eythian |
possibly |
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drojf |
mtompset: maybe this is of interest http://paste.koha-community.org/145 |
| 10:38 |
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eythian |
drojf: that's really just cargo culting though |
| 10:38 |
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eythian |
if you know how your email server is to be set up, then you spend two seconds answering questions and it works. If you don't know how it's set up, no amount of config files are going to help. |
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mtompset |
Thing is... I hacked a perl script to mail things. |
| 10:40 |
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eythian |
that's a terrible idea |
| 10:40 |
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mtompset |
I just don't know how to configure nullmailer to do the same. |
| 10:40 |
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eythian |
if you can write a perl script to do it, you can configure a real MTA to do it. |
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mtompset |
not if I don't understand any MTA. |
| 10:41 |
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mtompset |
I know a machine, a port... and ugly mail formating through perl calls. |
| 10:42 |
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eythian |
...and that's most of what you need to set up an MTA. |
| 10:43 |
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mtompset |
except the attempts I have made have ended up spamming the administrator account of our host. |
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drojf |
i only tried it once and the university postmaster said i'm ddos-ing his servers. |
| 10:43 |
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mtompset |
Exactly my problem. |
| 10:44 |
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eythian |
then you modify /etc/aliases to point to you |
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mtompset |
is there a "postfix for dummies: click through to get told what do to guide"? |
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eythian |
dpkg-reconfigure postfix gives fairly detailed descriptions of the options |
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mtompset |
in geek speak. |
| 10:47 |
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eythian |
no, in correct speak |
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eythian |
there's no description for the layman, because setting up a mail server requires some degree of specialist knowledge. |
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drojf |
let's have a livecd for that! |
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drojf |
*hides* |
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eythian |
heh |
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* slef |
adds his boot to those on UTK |
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slef |
yeah I was trying to find the link to the live images... where are they? |
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eythian |
slef: I've not seen one that wasn't wildly out of date |
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eythian |
because it takes about two months for that to happen |
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eythian |
slef: that UTK thing is annoying. Clearly well meaning, but not understanding (which is sorta not unexpected: it's a complex thing, that's why you should get someone to proof-read it before release) |
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eythian |
And I'd certainly consider Catalyst a major vendor, especially in NZ :) |
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Barrc1 |
Can anyone suggest how I would go about picking up a git branch (that was initially started on older code). So, I started something back in 3.4 (it was signed off but failed qa) but I'd like to finish it now, but current is 3.8x? |
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eythian |
Barrc1: start with master and apply the patch onto that. Fix conflicts, and do some testing, and it should be about right |
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Barrc1 |
eythian: Thanks - still struggling with git, to be honest! |
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eythian |
it's a bit of a learning curve, but it makes a lot of sense once you realise it's all just graph theory ;) |
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slef |
Barrc1: "git gr" on the wiki may help you visualise it |
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eythian |
what does '"git gr" on the wiki' mean? |
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slef |
wahanui: git gr? |
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wahanui |
i don't know, slef |
| 11:02 |
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slef |
wahanui: git? |
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wahanui |
git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
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Barrc1 |
slef: thanks. Is that a hook? |
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slef |
eythian: Barrc1: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ify_command_tasks |
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slef |
Barrc1: it's an alias |
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slef |
"draws a character-mode graph showing the branch structure and displays it through your pager" |
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slef |
there's a gui one I think but it requires tk and X which sometimes aren't installed on servers |
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Barrc1 |
Yes, I see. Cool - I will fire it up and feel more of my brain melt out through me ears! ----runs from git..... |
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eythian |
gitk |
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Barrc1 |
gitg |
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eythian |
gitg looks nicer |
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kf |
paul_p: around? |
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kf |
paul_p: have a question about the rm newsletter :) |
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kf |
oh never mind |
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slef |
eythian: no, Catalyst are "others" less important than the co-op and just above OpenLX, clearly ;) |
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kf |
slef: thx for thinking about us - and for writing the mail |
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kf |
at least I guess you meant us :) |
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eythian |
slef: thanks for the correction, now I know! :) |
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slef |
kf: I did but I don't remember if you are a ministry department, a trading fund or a state agency or what so I put it vaguely to avoid being wrong :) |
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kf |
hm not sure how to translate that really |
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slef |
kf: I'm sure there is an EU dictionary of official public body types somewhere... but I don't really want to find it ;) |
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kf |
our homepage states: The BSZ is a facility in the business area of the Ministry of Science, Research and Art (Ministerium für Wissenschaft, Forschung und Kunst) of Baden-Württemberg in the legal form of a dependent public agency, headquartered in Constance. |
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slef |
ah, state agency |
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slef |
I think |
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kf |
maybe :) |
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slef |
do you have to break even and can the ministry instruct anyone other than the managing director/CEO/chef/whatever? |
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slef |
I think if the answers are yes and no, then it's a trading fund, else it's a state agency. |
| 11:13 |
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slef |
That's probably UK-specific jargon though. |
| 11:13 |
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slef |
But we're the biggest English-speaking country in the EU, so you will respect mah authoritah! |
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slef |
;) |
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slef |
I also like the way opensourceils wants to set cookies from adserver.yahoo.com |
| 11:15 |
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slef |
but that's a whole 'nother argument |
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kf |
slef: I like how you can't copy the url of a page |
| 11:17 |
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kf |
hm |
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slef |
kf: hmm? I can, but I don't allow random sites to run javascripts ;) |
| 11:18 |
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kf |
ah, for me the url stays the same on each site |
| 11:18 |
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kf |
that irritates me :) |
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slef |
oh yeah - it's a framed bounce to http://opensource-ils.cci.utk.edu/content/ |
| 11:18 |
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slef |
err without the content |
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eythian |
wahanui: postfix is http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html |
| 11:19 |
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wahanui |
...but postfix is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix... |
| 11:19 |
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paul_p |
kf = i'm back from lunch |
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kf |
I was misreading something |
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slef |
wahanui: postfix is also at http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html |
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wahanui |
okay, slef. |
| 11:19 |
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kf |
all ok :) |
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eythian |
wahanui: postifx |
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wahanui |
eythian: huh? |
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eythian |
wahanui: postfix |
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wahanui |
postfix is, like, found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or at http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html |
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eythian |
good enough :) |
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mtompset |
slef++ # eric cartman reference |
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mtompset |
slef++ # getting wahanui to play nicer over postfix URLs |
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slef |
slides? |
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wahanui |
slides is probably kf has written her slides. |
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slef |
wahanui: traitor! |
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wahanui |
slef: excuse me? |
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kf |
lol |
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slef |
wahanui: you are excused |
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wahanui |
...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.... |
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kf |
that was for the workshop |
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kf |
next event now |
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kf |
forget slides |
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wahanui |
kf: I forgot slides |
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slef |
wahanui: no, slides are what kf should be writing |
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wahanui |
i haven't a clue, slef |
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mtompset |
drojf++ # humor regarding a livecd |
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slef |
wahanui: slides are what kf should be writing |
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wahanui |
i don't know, slef |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
wahanui botsnack cookies |
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wahanui |
thanks kf :) |
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slef |
wahanui: slides are <reply> kf should be writing slides |
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wahanui |
OK, slef. |
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slef |
slides? |
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wahanui |
kf should be writing slides |
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slef |
wahanui: share and enjoy! |
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wahanui |
slef: i'm not following you... |
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slef |
wahanui: figrues |
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wahanui |
slef: i'm not following you... |
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slef |
wahanui: figures |
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wahanui |
I like *your* figure |
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slef |
wahanui: pervert |
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wahanui |
slef: sorry... |
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eythian |
wahanui: literal postfix |
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wahanui |
eythian: postfix =is= found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or at http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html |
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eythian |
no wahanui, postfix is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix (but you probably can skip the SASL stuff) or at http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
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slef |
summer? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that summer is here now |
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mtompset |
I'm off. |
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mtompset |
Have a good day (24 hour period). :) |
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slef |
the pdf? |
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wahanui |
the pdf is only $49.00USD! http://www.techstreet.com/stan[…]roduct_id=1612225 |
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slef |
Oak's internet? |
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slef |
Oak_'s internet? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that Oak_'s internet is too slow... 4-5 KB/s. can't check myself. |
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slef |
magnuse's standard typo? |
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wahanui |
i guess magnuse's standard typo is got, i think |
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slef |
wjasu's user? |
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slef |
wajasu's user? |
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wahanui |
wajasu's user is running 3.0, and won't upgrade until it works. |
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slef |
this works better if I can type |
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slef |
bbl |
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eythian |
no wahanui, the pdf is only $49.00USD! http://www.techstreet.com/stan[…]roduct_id=1612225 | is only CHF58.00! http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_cat[…]tm?csnumber=41319 |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
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eythian |
the pdf? |
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wahanui |
the pdf is only $49.00USD! http://www.techstreet.com/stan[…]roduct_id=1612225 |
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eythian |
the pdf? |
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wahanui |
the pdf is is only CHF58.00! http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_cat[…]tm?csnumber=41319 |
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* slef |
goes looking for Form C173 - "Application for CEO to shag combine harvester in photo opportunity" |
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eythian |
http://youtu.be/O6mCUoRYN3Y <-- slef |
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slef |
eythian: still on mobile internet, a bit jerky BIKWYM. See also Black Mirror - The National Anthem |
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eythian |
ah yes, that's the one with the pig? |
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slef |
yep |
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eythian |
certainly an interesting show |
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slef |
Charlie Brooker is very good. Seen any 10 O'Clock Live? |
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slef |
Laverne, Brooker, Mitchell and Carr - together at last! |
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slef |
now really bbl |
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eythian |
I ahven't |
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jcamins_away |
paul_p: around? |
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paul_p |
jcamins yep |
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jcamins |
paul_p: I'm looking at bug 8304 at the moment, and wanted to check that I understood the testing plan. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8304 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Needs Signoff , composed authorities Rameau management |
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paul_p |
jcamins OK, throw your question(s) |
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jcamins |
I create a bib record with a composed heading, set dontmerge so that Koha will try to update bib records, and change one of the authority records? |
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jcamins |
Is that right? |
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paul_p |
jcamins (I suspect the most important thing to do is that it break nothing for MARC21 !) |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I'm also checking MARC21. |
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jcamins |
Actually, I'm a lot more concerned about MARC21 than UNIMARC. |
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jcamins |
I figure it *probably* is working correctly in UNIMARC, since you have so many libraries using the code. |
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paul_p |
jcamins = other than this, yes, you're right = have a biblio with a composed heading, change an authority used as a "partial" heading in the biblio, and check the merge work well |
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jcamins |
Okay... would someone like to tell me how to create a composed heading in UNIMARC? |
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* jcamins |
thought it would be more obvious than it is. |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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eythian |
http://youtu.be/sgfklKnOg4w <-- song of the day |
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oleonard |
Reminds me of Toy Story 3 eythian |
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eythian |
heh |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327: Testing c4 Images <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]92e80344bacf490bf> / Bug 5327: Unit tests for C4 socialdata <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d37598231c944526e> / Bug 5327 : Fixing a typo in the test that was causing a false fail <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]diff;h=2b73673176 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #818 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 4 days ago) |
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jcamins |
Authority merge is broken in master. |
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jcamins |
paul_p: have you (or anyone else at BibLibre) tested bug 8304 recently? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8304 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Needs Signoff , composed authorities Rameau management |
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jcamins |
I am finding that the merge function is broken. |
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jcamins |
In current master, as well as after applying the patch. |
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paul_p |
jcamins = I don't think so. |
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paul_p |
jcamins = but we should ask matts_away (that is in a plane atm) |
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jcamins |
I'm trying a git bisect, but I don't think I'll be able to finish looking for the problem today. |
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jcamins |
The last time I know it worked properly was the beginning of 2011. |
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jcamins |
(well, I know it was working in December, but I don't know *exactly* when it worked) |
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paul_p_ |
BibLibre SDSL => epic fail today ! |
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eythian |
SDSL? |
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jcamins |
Symmetric DSL, I think. |
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slef |
paul_p_: welcome to my world! Still on mifi until British Telecon get their fingers out next week... |
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slef |
I wouldn't mind, but I'm not even a Telecon customer. They just have a monopoly on the exchanges, inherited from when the Government Post Office ran the phones. |
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slef |
paul_p_: got fallback access route? |
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paul_p_ |
slef = in fact, we're not sure if it is our SDSL, our router (that has fallback), or our VPN... |
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paul_p_ |
we loose connexion for a few seconds, then it's back. |
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tcohen |
close all those torrent clients paul_p :-P |
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slef |
paul_p_: I can see if the co-op's network engineers (we've two, both at other sites today AFAIK) have time to help, if you like. |
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paul_p_ |
eythian = yep, Symetric. In our office, we have symetric 10MB connexion + a 10/1 ADSL as fallback |
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jcamins |
I HATE C4::SEARCH!!!!! |
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jcamins |
C4::Search-- |
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jcamins |
C4::Search-- |
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jcamins |
C4::Search-- |
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jcamins |
C4::Search-- |
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jcamins |
C4::Search-- |
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paul_p_ |
slef = thx, our main problem is that our sysop is in holiday (for 2 more weeks). That will wait until he's back I think (unless hdl can take time to investigate) |
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wajasu |
No results. |
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slef |
paul_p_: hire a PFY to understudy the sysop ;) |
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paul_p_ |
jcamins = well, remember it's friday. Don't ruin your week end by thinking to C4::Search on friday !!!! ;-) |
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slef |
(heh PFY is listed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B[…]perator_From_Hell ) |
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eythian |
@karma C4::Search |
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huginn |
eythian: Karma for "C4::Search" has been increased 0 times and decreased 31 times for a total karma of -31. |
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jcamins |
paul_p_: I'm heading into the city shortly for non-Koha-related work. |
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wajasu |
jcamins: think about the linker. i was trying to understand that autolink code and see if one has broader_headings and the code picks some authority records, when it blindly maps it replaces my 630 subfields. with no subfield monikers. |
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jcamins |
@karma <! |
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huginn |
jcamins: Karma for "<!" has been increased 8 times and decreased 119 times for a total karma of -111. |
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eythian |
@karma C |
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huginn |
eythian: Karma for "C" has been increased 16 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 16. |
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eythian |
@karma - |
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huginn |
eythian: Karma for "-" has been increased 3 times and decreased 62 times for a total karma of -59. |
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jcamins |
wajasu: I have no idea what that means. |
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jcamins |
(what you just said to me) |
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wajasu |
i was looking at bug 8447 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8447 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , can't save new records / indicator error |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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jcamins |
That much I got. |
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jcamins |
But I don't know what you're saying the code is doing. |
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wajasu |
when i got into the code that auto adds the authorites, it finds/chooses one, and there is a line that does a "map" and before that my 630 field has subtags a, v and such. after the map, the subfield has no subtags at all and no data. just the indicators 00. so we get the error. |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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wajasu |
i printed the marc record as_formatted() before and after. |
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jcamins |
There should be a check to make sure that it doesn't remove the last subfield, then. |
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jcamins |
paul_p_: checking bug 3462. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Link see alsos in authorities |
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jcamins |
paul_p_: incidentally, the UNIMARC data from the sandboxes does not appear to be right- the authorities are all invalid. |
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jcamins |
paul_p_: any chance you could post a screenshot of what you see on bug 3462? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Link see alsos in authorities |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #62: "<fallor> is this a known thingy?" (added by gmcharlt at 01:18 PM, February 26, 2010) |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #818: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/818/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 5327 follow-up: add DBD::Mock dependency |
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jenkins_koha |
* bart.tj: Bug 5327 : Added a few more lines of code to the ItemType.t unit test |
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jenkins_koha |
* bart.tj: Bug 5327 Tests for C4::Matcher |
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jenkins_koha |
* bart.tj: Added and tested a mock-db tested a couple of features |
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jenkins_koha |
* bart.tj: Added a mock-db table and tested a line |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, bart.tj, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
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jenkins_koha |
* bart.tj: Added tests to installer_perlmodules |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 : Fixing a typo in the test that was causing a false fail |
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jenkins_koha |
* bart.tj: Bug 5327: Unit tests for C4 socialdata |
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jenkins_koha |
* bart.tj: Bug 5327: Testing c4 Images |
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slef |
@query DateTime |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7899 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, NEW , Remove C4::Dates from C4::Circulation |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8530 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, NEW , New Data Types for Holidays |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6891 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8127 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Most Circulated Items not working right |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8582 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , NULL issuedates with offline circ |
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* slef |
finds "I should report this" in his notes |
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* slef |
swears and reports it |
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slef |
Bug 8738 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8738 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , DateTime object being compared to a date string in circulation |
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drojf |
slef: but they bought all these nice "OSS" domains, how can you demand freedom? :P |
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oleonard |
Can someone please remind me, given [% FOREACH i IN items %] [% i %] [% END %] how can I check that "items" has anything in it? |
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slef |
drojf: have they replied? |
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drojf |
slef: nope, just read your mail |
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drojf |
i doubt they will reply at all. but i'd be happy to get proven wrong |
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slef |
oleonard: does [% IF items %] not work? |
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oleonard |
No, at least not consistently. I'm confused about how it works with Template::Toolkit |
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eythian |
oleonard: IF (items.length != 0) I think |
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eythian |
I take that back |
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eythian |
items.size |
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oleonard |
Thanks eythian. There must be something weird about this code because the collection is being counted as 1 even when it's empty. |
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eythian |
that does seem odd |
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oleonard |
That is to say, it is empty content-wise but it iterates once. |
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eythian |
ah right |
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eythian |
that is not what I'd expect |
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jcamins |
It's what I'd expect. |
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jcamins |
I mean, not because that makes sense, but because I've had that problem in a lot of places. |
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oleonard |
That makes sense jcamins, it's your code :) |
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* oleonard |
is looking at why the images tab shows up even when there are no local images |
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jcamins |
The workaround I came up with is to have two variables. |
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jcamins |
showImageTab and images[] |
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jcamins |
(note: that was just an example based on what you're working on, I didn't do that, because I didn't know about the problem yet) |
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slef |
what does AddIssue return for analytics these days? |
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jcamins |
Doesn't AddIssue take an item? |
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slef |
AddIssue($borrower, $barcode, [$datedue], [$cancelreserve], [$issuedate]) |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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jcamins |
Item. |
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slef |
used to return 0 the actual $datedue |
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slef |
used to return 0 or the actual $datedue |
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slef |
now returns a DateTime |
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jcamins |
I think I don't understand the question. |
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jcamins |
I don't see how this has to do with analytics at all. |
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slef |
ah it still returns a 0 for an analytic |
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slef |
sorry this is my analytic item tyeps |
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slef |
a problematic interaction with development work |
| 14:44 |
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slef |
so no point me asking here :) |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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slef |
moral: check git annotate first :) |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea |
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* slef |
sawtooths |
| 14:46 |
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pastebot |
"wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "LinkBibHeadingsToAuthorities behavior for subject headings being auto linked Linker/Default.pm" (45 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/156 |
| 14:46 |
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wajasu |
jcamins: opinion on this paste |
| 14:47 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: looks like a problem with the map. |
| 14:54 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: I can't duplicate this problem even with broader_headings. |
| 14:54 |
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jcamins |
If I write a patch, based on that, will you test it for me? |
| 14:58 |
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eythian |
slef: git annotate is too pansy. git blame is where it really is. |
| 14:59 |
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oleonard |
Oh, is "annotate" just a nice way of putting it? |
| 14:59 |
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slef |
eythian: I've quite enough to blame myself for, thank you! |
| 14:59 |
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eythian |
oleonard: yeah, it's like svn had 'blame' and 'praise' as synonyms |
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slef |
uh, annotate and blame are different commands, with different output formats... also I can't get blame to work over tramp |
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oleonard |
If we plug the git parser into perltidy we have have git tell us which lines are blames and which are praises |
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slef |
which I really should debug, but in another life maybe |
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eythian |
slef: $ git annotate |
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eythian |
usage: git blame [options] [rev-opts] [rev] [--] file |
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slef |
eythian: well that changed |
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jcamins |
wajasu: I posted a patch for bug 8447. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8447 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , can't save new records / indicator error |
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jcamins |
Please test it, as I cannot. |
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jcamins |
Also, good job on providing the correct debugging information. :) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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trea |
greetings #koha |
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slef |
Changes submitted for bug 8738 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8738 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , DateTime object being compared to a date string in circulation |
| 15:10 |
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trea |
when configuring a koha catalog as a public z39.50 target, is the username/password required if specified in the config? |
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slef |
trea: I think so, if it's in the config for the public target, but the only way to be sure is to test it. Can you suck it and see? |
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slef |
been a while since I tried |
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trea |
well, that's the trouble. i'm having difficulty connecting, so i'm trying to verify i have all the settings i need |
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jcamins |
trea: I think it's configurable, but I can't remember how. |
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slef |
trea: define "difficulty connecting"? |
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trea |
such as specifying a database name in the config. is this referring to the name of the sql database? |
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trea |
difficulty = unable to query/retrieve records from a client search |
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gmcharlt |
trea: no, the Z39.50 database name |
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slef |
trea: any error messages? |
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gmcharlt |
trea: if it's accessible on the general net, I can try pointing yaz-client at it and get more diagnostics |
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slef |
trea: the Z39.50 database name is usually biblios I think |
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gmcharlt |
correct |
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trea |
gmcharlt: what parameter is the z39.50 db name in the $KOHA_CONF ? |
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slef |
err, "database" |
| 15:16 |
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slef |
I think |
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trea |
nm, of course it is |
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trea |
:D |
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slef |
oh wait that's for something else |
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slef |
yazgfs/config/biblioserver is probably definitive |
| 15:17 |
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slef |
but database probably should have the same value |
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trea |
yea i was going to say there is no <database> tag for publicserver defined that i can see |
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slef |
oh the config is a bit interconnected |
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tcohen |
khall++ |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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trea |
got it working. thx all |
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trea |
koha++ |
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slef |
oh this is fun |
| 15:27 |
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slef |
same report, different servers, similar test data... one produces the correct output, the other does not |
| 15:28 |
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slef |
if I put the report in the wiki library, could others try it for me, please? |
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oleonard |
Sure slef |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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tcohen |
inded |
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* slef |
does the wiki login shuffle |
| 15:33 |
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slef |
oleonard: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Library#Patrons_w.2F_Items_Issued_Today |
| 15:33 |
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slef |
and anyone else who'd like to help |
| 15:33 |
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slef |
it produces no output on one of the two servers I've tested |
| 15:34 |
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slef |
and the correct output on the other |
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slef |
I'm going to run a few queries on the statistics table of that server. |
| 15:36 |
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slef |
ok, the statistics table isn't being updated on the no-output server. |
| 15:36 |
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slef |
Have I forgotten to switch something on? |
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oleonard |
The statistics table should just work |
| 15:40 |
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mtompset |
bug 8519 |
| 15:40 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup |
| 15:41 |
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slef |
ok, found the problem |
| 15:41 |
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slef |
someone has put a trigger into the mysql which is failing |
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kf |
that sounds like something customized? |
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Joubu |
bye ++ |
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kf |
bye Joubu |
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slef |
kf: yes and not by us! |
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mtompset |
khall++ # thanks for the sign off. |
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khall |
glad to be of service! |
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kf |
bye all, have a nice weekend! |
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wajasu |
jcamins: your patch looks like it should work. going to apply it and test. |
| 16:02 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: thanks. |
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jcamins |
As I said, although your example of the output made sense to me, I wasn't able to reproduce the problem, even though I could reach the same code. |
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bag |
good morning |
| 16:08 |
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jcamins |
paul_p_: that's a weird one! |
| 16:09 |
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slef |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]how_bug.cgi?id=-1 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bag, ASSIGNED, Move bag to a better timezone like CET or something |
| 16:09 |
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paul_p_ |
jcamins (you're talking of my mail about caching ?) |
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jcamins |
paul_p_: yup. |
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bag |
heh thanks slef |
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bag |
with coffee I can make any timezone ;) |
| 16:10 |
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jcamins |
paul_p_: try: perl -e "use Koha::Cache::Memcached; print 'hi';" |
| 16:10 |
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paul_p_ |
jcamins = I think it is. Even if I've found a very usefull command to be sure the cache is accessed: perl -MCache::Memcached -MData::Dumper=Dumper -le 'print Dumper(Cache::Memcached->new(servers => ["localhost:11211"])->stats);' |
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paul_p_ |
Can't locate Cache/Memcached/Fast.pm |
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slef |
do cardnumbers auto-generate on "Duplicate" for anyone else? |
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paul_p_ |
Can't locate Cache/Memcached/Fast.pm in @INC |
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jcamins |
paul_p_: ooh, CHI didn't install properly. |
| 16:11 |
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* paul_p_ |
checking synaptic... |
| 16:11 |
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jcamins |
There's a patch adding that dependency. |
| 16:11 |
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jcamins |
I think you pushed it. |
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paul_p_ |
libcache-memcached-fast-perl not installed !!! |
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jcamins |
In Lenny, that used to be part of libcache-memcached-perl. |
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paul_p_ |
now it is, and the result is "hi" !!! |
| 16:13 |
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jcamins |
Okay, caching should be working for you now. |
| 16:16 |
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paul_p_ |
wonderfull = NEW with Koha::Cache::Memcached and $VAR1 = { |
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paul_p_ |
'have_chi' => 1 |
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paul_p_ |
}; |
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jcamins |
paul_p_: note that you may get different performance results because you have Moose. |
| 16:18 |
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paul_p_ |
jcamins ??? |
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wahanui |
jcamins is, like, A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins or a very naughty wahanui teacher |
| 16:19 |
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jcamins |
paul_p_: CHI uses Moose only if it is installed. |
| 16:19 |
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jcamins |
At least, that's what it seemed to me. |
| 16:19 |
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jcamins |
I didn't have Moose installed when I first wrote the CHI stuff, and it worked great. |
| 16:19 |
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jcamins |
Then I tried to set up Solr, and it started using Moose. |
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* paul_p_ |
has Moose IIRC |
| 16:20 |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
| 16:20 |
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jcamins |
So people without Moose may see faster caching. |
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paul_p_ |
but caching works though = added a trace in get_in_cache, and saw = RETRIEVING getAllLanguages = ARRAY(0xcd23ddc) |
| 16:21 |
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paul_p_ |
ARRAY() means it's cached now ! |
| 16:21 |
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jcamins |
Right. Caching will work either way. |
| 16:23 |
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trea |
anyone know what's required to store session log information in /tmp? I thought changing the sessionstorage syspref would do it, but no dice. |
| 16:23 |
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trea |
i'd like to start tracking messages regarding changing ip addresses |
| 16:24 |
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bag |
trea it couldn't be read/write access could it? /me playing dumb |
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trea |
nope, there's other stuff in /tmp |
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mtompset |
trea, /tmp goes away on a reboot in Ubuntu. |
| 16:26 |
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trea |
not on ubuntu, but good info |
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gmcharlt |
trea: sthe sessionstorage syspref controls were the actual session state gets stored |
| 16:26 |
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slef |
ok it's bug 7068 |
| 16:26 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7068 major, P5 - low, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , autobarcode not working when duplicating patrons |
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gmcharlt |
the session logging to /tmp would be turned on by uncommenting the calls to _session_log in C4/Auth.pm |
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trea |
thx gmcharlt. i'll give that a go |
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trea |
gmcharlt++ |
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* wizzyrea |
wonders why her dev install does that and she never uncommented anything of the sort |
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trea |
mmm |
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| 16:36 |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: well, the commit commenting that out was made last December ... are you running an ancient version or missing commit 00290e86197? |
| 16:36 |
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wizzyrea |
shouldn't be |
| 16:36 |
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gmcharlt |
because otherwise the alternative is that you have just discovered how to patch running code telepathically ;) |
| 16:36 |
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wizzyrea |
lol. |
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* wizzyrea |
didn't even know she wanted a sessionlog! |
| 16:37 |
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wizzyrea |
so not only telepathically |
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trea |
i'm geting booted as well from their catalog |
| 16:37 |
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trea |
but again, not consistently |
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* trea |
gets out a stopwatch |
| 16:39 |
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trea |
thx again #koha |
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trea |
excelsior! |
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* wizzyrea |
is dumb, they are in fact commented out. |
| 16:42 |
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* wizzyrea |
goes and hides in a hole |
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mtompset |
you're not dumb wizzyrea, you're just delusional. :) |
| 16:44 |
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mtompset |
Don't worry... it happens to the best of us. |
| 16:45 |
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jcamins |
paul_p_: updated patches for bug 8597. |
| 16:45 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Passed QA , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view |
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wizzyrea |
yay for being delusional. |
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* mtompset |
high fives wizzyrea. ;) |
| 16:49 |
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slef |
bug 7068 needs signoff |
| 16:49 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7068 major, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , autobarcode not working when duplicating patrons |
| 16:50 |
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slef |
ok, next problem, why have I no "All" in http://intranet:8080/cgi-bin/k[…]serials/claims.pl |
| 16:52 |
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paul_p_ |
OK, guys, it's time to leave for me. the "passed QA" queue is almost empty ! Some are waiting for feedback, a few are still requiring my testing. |
| 16:52 |
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oleonard |
Thanks for all your hard work paul_p_ |
| 16:52 |
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wajasu |
jcamins: that 8447 patch worked. it saved by bib. now it linked in subtag 9. my pre-existing subtags ( p p and v ) from the original biblio are empty. is that the desired behavior? |
| 16:52 |
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paul_p_ |
on monday & tuesday, I doubt to have time to push patch, but maybe. on wed-fri, should be here |
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paul_p_ |
(only 2 weeks before Feature freeze ...) |
| 16:54 |
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slef |
oh my! bug 5342 is big |
| 16:54 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5342 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Serial claiming improvements |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8408' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b85d4c70dd1cfc131> / Bug 8408 - Followup 2 - Add reference to renewing items. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aa6c2dd76f5548a9f> / Bug 8408 - Followup - Fix broken messages. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]koha.git;a=commit |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #819 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 5 days ago) |
| 16:56 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: probably not, but I think I'd need an example of what you're talking about. |
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slef |
git/rebase-apply/patch:296: tab in indent |
| 17:00 |
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* slef |
kicks stuff |
| 17:00 |
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mtompset |
:set ts=4? :) |
| 17:01 |
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slef |
mtompset: 1. not my patch; 2. wrong editor |
| 17:02 |
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mtompset |
tr? :) |
| 17:02 |
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mtompset |
(if you're frustrated enough) |
| 17:02 |
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slef |
error: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/lateorders.tt: patch does not apply |
| 17:02 |
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slef |
Patch failed at 0001 Bug 7298 Export late orders as csv |
| 17:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7298 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , export late orders, with # of claims and claim dates |
| 17:02 |
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slef |
if anyone else would like a go |
| 17:03 |
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mtompset |
Nope... it's the weekend. |
| 17:03 |
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mtompset |
weekend? |
| 17:03 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... weekend is partyin', partyin', partyin' YAH! |
| 17:03 |
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mtompset |
Because saturday comes after friday. ;) |
| 17:03 |
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mtompset |
friday? |
| 17:03 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday |
| 17:04 |
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slef |
weekend is cancelled |
| 17:04 |
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slef |
feature freeze approaches |
| 17:04 |
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slef |
is export late orders working for anyone at the moment? |
| 17:05 |
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cait |
there is a patch waiting |
| 17:05 |
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cait |
or was that late serials? |
| 17:05 |
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cait |
i got confused |
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cait |
what does not work for you slef? |
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* mtompset |
laughs. |
| 17:05 |
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slef |
late serials I think |
| 17:05 |
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mtompset |
Sorry. |
| 17:05 |
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cait |
do you have a claim counter already? |
| 17:06 |
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slef |
nope... was looking at that patch too, but it looks like a mess |
| 17:06 |
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slef |
bug 5342 |
| 17:06 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5342 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Serial claiming improvements |
| 17:06 |
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cait |
I wanted to get back to that foever :( |
| 17:06 |
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cait |
it will actually be nice I think |
| 17:06 |
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cait |
and similar to how late orders work now, which is good |
| 17:06 |
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slef |
well my problem is that I see no checkboxes on the Serials: Claims listings |
| 17:06 |
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cait |
consistency is good |
| 17:06 |
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cait |
aah |
| 17:07 |
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cait |
do you have a claim notice defined? |
| 17:07 |
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cait |
I ran into this during the workshop presentation |
| 17:07 |
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slef |
Ah, no. |
| 17:07 |
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slef |
I was leaving that to the librarians. |
| 17:07 |
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cait |
i was highly irriated, maybe that's your problem :) |
| 17:07 |
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cait |
just create one with whatever in the right module |
| 17:07 |
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slef |
If we need that before the display is non-broken, we should provide a default. |
| 17:08 |
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cait |
yes |
| 17:08 |
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cait |
there is a bug for that even i think |
| 17:08 |
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cait |
the problem is I didn't want to write an english claim notice :) |
| 17:08 |
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mtompset |
sounds like a failed qa or a depends situation. :) |
| 17:08 |
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cait |
well the interface gives you a warning on top that you have no notice |
| 17:11 |
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slef |
bah, that fixed it. Thanks cait. |
| 17:11 |
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cait |
you are welcome |
| 17:12 |
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cait |
it least there weren't almost 30 people staring at you while fixing it :) |
| 17:12 |
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slef |
any thoughts on how to get "All vendors" in the list for vendors? |
| 17:12 |
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mtompset |
cait++ |
| 17:12 |
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cait |
only vnedors with late serial issues show |
| 17:12 |
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cait |
which makes sense |
| 17:12 |
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slef |
yeah but you have to step through them one at a time? |
| 17:12 |
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cait |
hmm |
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cait |
at the moment, that might be so |
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cait |
the acq thing works nicer |
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cait |
but I think there was a problem with converting the table and filters |
| 17:13 |
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cait |
so we thought it should be done in a second step |
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cait |
kaizen... not too many things at once |
| 17:14 |
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slef |
should still note the second step in a bug somewhere |
| 17:14 |
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cait |
yeah |
| 17:14 |
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cait |
but it is how it currently works |
| 17:14 |
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cait |
so no regressoin |
| 17:14 |
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* slef |
makes a new bug |
| 17:18 |
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slef |
Bug 8740 has been added to the database |
| 17:18 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8740 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Serials Claims should be exportable all at once |
| 17:21 |
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cait |
you are testing the new feature, right? |
| 17:24 |
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slef |
how do you mean? I have a test server for this, yes. |
| 17:25 |
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cait |
was wondering if you looked at master or master + patch |
| 17:25 |
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slef |
patch for which? |
| 17:26 |
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cait |
for the serial claim improvements |
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slef |
bug 5342 I was leaving until others figure it out, while Patch failed at 0001 Bug 7298 Export late orders as csv |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5342 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Serial claiming improvements |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7298 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , export late orders, with # of claims and claim dates |
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cait |
oh |
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mtompset |
Good day (24 hour period) everyone. |
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slef |
Changes submitted for bug 8740 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8740 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Serials Claims should be exportable all at once |
| 18:00 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #819: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/819/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8206: Specify index in OPAC authority search |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8206 follow-up: Add Match index to MARC21 record.abs |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8206: make authority search indexes consistent |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8089: Use Koha::Cache for all caching |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8089: Cache sysprefs using Koha::Cache |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8089: Correct cache timeout to 1000 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8204 follow-up: don't display OpacNav on auth details |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8089 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Use Koha::Cache everywhere |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8678: XSLT stylesheets output XML, but HTML is needed |
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jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 8408 - Followup - Fix broken messages. |
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jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 8408 - Followup 2 - Add reference to renewing items. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8204 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority viewer in OPAC ugly, unfriendly, and mostly useless |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8678 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , XSLT stylesheets output XML, but HTML is needed |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8408 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Odd OPAC message when OPAC Renewals are disabled and OPACFineNoRenewals is set to blank |
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bag |
@seen sekjal |
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huginn |
bag: sekjal was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 53 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <sekjal> gtg. see ya, #koha! |
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rangi |
hmm +8 fails |
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oleonard |
Feeling better Brooke? |
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Brooke |
much :D |
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Brooke |
I must have slept as much as a koala yesterday |
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Brooke |
cait++ |
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rangi |
hmm members and budgets tests failing |
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cait |
eew |
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cait |
htat doesn't sound good at all |
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rangi |
http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/819/ |
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rangi |
https://twitter.com/KohaJenkin[…]44139209064075264 |
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rangi |
ah well, i don't have time to look at that today, and its only been unstable for 46 builds now, whats another few |
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cait |
:( |
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oleonard |
Now let's see it in church sign form http://i.imgur.com/AM5dm.jpg |
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rangi |
heh |
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cait |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
LOL! |
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wizzyrea |
hmm that moment when you ctrl-q instead of ctrl-w |
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rangi |
that reminds me of |
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rangi |
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qgz25/ |
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rangi |
brb |
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wizzyrea |
http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgen[…]two-thumbs-up.jpg |
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wajasu |
jcamins: i just got back. it looks like brendan (bag) signed off on your 8447 patch. so I am leaving that alone. BUT, both your patch and his are in attachments, maybe he forgot to obsolete the 1st one, and prefix with SIGNED-OFF |
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bag |
yup I did |
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bag |
:) |
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bag |
you can fix that if you want :) I'm actually running out the door |
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wajasu |
ok, |
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bag |
thanks wajasu++ |
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wajasu |
thanks bag. i had a meeting. |
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jcamins |
wajasu: can you explain exactly what you meant when you described what the patch did, though? I'm curious. |
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wajasu |
i'm add a test so QA has something to work with. |
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wajasu |
adding use case to bug now. |
| 23:47 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: based on the description you just posted on the bug, the patch does not fix it. |
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jcamins |
(where "it" = the problem) |
| 23:48 |
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wajasu |
it at least allows biblios to be saved. i think we need to work on how to merge authorites which is complex. but we can continue to work it in this bug if you like. |
| 23:48 |
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jcamins |
No, the current patch makes it MUCH WORSE. |
| 23:48 |
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jcamins |
We go from an error to the system deleting data. |
| 23:49 |
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wajasu |
ok. lets continue working it. |
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wajasu |
how do you want it to behave? |
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jcamins |
I want it to not delete data. |
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wajasu |
merge, interleaving new data? |
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jcamins |
There's no merging happening here. |
| 23:49 |
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jcamins |
Or shouldn't be. |
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wajasu |
iin the map, are you cloning/copying the @subfields into the "new" field? |
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jcamins |
I wish I knew why I can't get the indicator error with the exact same configuration. |
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jcamins |
Oh, I see. |
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wajasu |
is the order wrong? 0 => 1 should be 1 => 0? |
| 23:53 |
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jcamins |
And by "I see" I mean "I have a working theory that you will test for me." |
| 23:53 |
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jcamins |
No, at this point the map is fine. |
| 23:55 |
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jcamins |
There were two issues. A potential issue with a map, and a potential issue with $field. |
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jcamins |
New patch for you to test. |
| 23:55 |
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jcamins |
Out of curiosity, are you using Plack? |
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wajasu |
i read up in it, and started to. but was holding back for koha until i see you are ready for it. |
| 23:56 |
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wajasu |
i will test it. but i have a dinner i need to leave for. but will test whatever you leave and can work it later tonight. |
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jcamins |
It's ready to go. |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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wajasu |
see it. later. |
