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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 01:20 |
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mtompset |
koha-run-backups?! Cool. I didn't know it existed until I was trying to delete koha. :) |
| 01:25 |
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mtj |
mtompset, sounds like you might have discovered the koha packages :) |
| 01:26 |
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mtompset |
Yes. I have done all three types of installs. |
| 01:26 |
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mtompset |
I'm just trying to clean up instructions. |
| 01:26 |
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mtompset |
And want to redo it from a semi-pristine state, so I'm reading files that I'm deleting. :) |
| 01:39 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages |
| 01:44 |
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mtompset |
Thanks, rangi. |
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| 01:57 |
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mtompset |
Greetings again, #koha. |
| 01:58 |
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mtompset |
Found two minor errors. Now to ponder solutions. |
| 01:58 |
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rangi |
wb mtompset |
| 01:58 |
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mtompset |
home, koha administration, keyword to marc mapping, check error log. |
| 01:59 |
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rangi |
by errors you mean warns right? |
| 01:59 |
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mtompset |
yes, they don't affect functionality. |
| 01:59 |
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rangi |
well no there is a quite a different thing |
| 02:00 |
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rangi |
we run our scripts with use warnings |
| 02:00 |
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rangi |
this means harmless things will show up as warnings in the logs, unitialized variables etc |
| 02:00 |
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mtompset |
[Mon Sep 03 09:48:30 2012] [error] [client 192.168.100.2] [Mon Sep 3 09:48:30 2012] fieldmapping.pl: Use of uninitialized value $op in string eq at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/fieldmapping.pl |
| 02:00 |
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rangi |
they are not errors, just perl warning |
| 02:00 |
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rangi |
yeah thats a warn |
| 02:01 |
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rangi |
you can silence them if you want, for a wanting your logs empty, but they are not errors, just warnings |
| 02:01 |
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mtompset |
[Mon Sep 03 09:44:00 2012] [error] [client 192.168.100.2] [Mon Sep 3 09:44:00 2012] marctagstructure.pl: Use of uninitialized value in numeric eq (==) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/marctagstructure.pl line 284. |
| 02:01 |
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rangi |
yep another warn |
| 02:02 |
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rangi |
apache of course doesn't know the diff, if it's in stderr it ends up in the error log |
| 02:02 |
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mtompset |
yes, but it seems strange that a value would be uninitialized or the logic not handle it. |
| 02:02 |
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rangi |
the logic does handle it |
| 02:03 |
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rangi |
its obviously not going to be == |
| 02:03 |
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mtompset |
when I say handle, I mean no warning generated. |
| 02:03 |
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mtompset |
in addition to properly processing. |
| 02:03 |
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mtompset |
there isn't a processing logic problem. |
| 02:04 |
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mtompset |
that's why "Warning" is an applicable label. |
| 02:04 |
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rangi |
there is a warning, you want it silenced i get it, its not an error though |
| 02:04 |
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mtompset |
I said "minor". |
| 02:04 |
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rangi |
i said warning, not error |
| 02:04 |
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mtompset |
I choose a poor word, since your definition of error excludes warnings. |
| 02:04 |
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rangi |
they are 2 different things in perl |
| 02:05 |
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rangi |
its not my definition, i just choose to use it because it's for the language we are using |
| 02:06 |
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mtompset |
and I chose my word based on colloquial use aside from programming language. |
| 02:07 |
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mtompset |
Which points out that I should be more careful with my use of the word error. |
| 02:18 |
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mtompset |
a simple "|| q{}" prevents one warning. :) |
| 02:19 |
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rangi |
yep, most of those will be that |
| 02:19 |
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rangi |
or if ($var && $var == 2) |
| 02:20 |
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mtompset |
but sometimes you have to figure out why the code in the if is triggered. |
| 02:20 |
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mtompset |
which reminds me... I got back to looking at bug 8175 again. |
| 02:20 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8175 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , items.materials check logs error or displays incorrectly in details.pl |
| 02:21 |
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mtompset |
Provided a better explanation and reasoning for my code change. Hopefully it makes sense. :) |
| 02:22 |
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rangi |
bug 8712 |
| 02:22 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug |
| 02:23 |
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rangi |
i have one of the accessibility people here at work looking into that |
| 02:25 |
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mtompset |
That looks like a huge template scouring ahead. |
| 02:32 |
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rangi |
its not that bad, we had a blind user working on the opac already, this is just adding some extra stuff to some of the tags |
| 02:37 |
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rangi |
staff side on the other hand, lots to do there |
| 02:42 |
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mtj |
mtompset++ , nice work on 8175 :) |
| 02:42 |
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mtompset |
Thanks, mtj. |
| 02:42 |
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mtj |
i like the /\S/ thing.. |
| 02:43 |
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mtompset |
It was the only way I could easily think of something visibly printable. |
| 02:43 |
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mtj |
its a good one for coding around 'display' stuff |
| 02:43 |
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mtj |
yep, thats it ;) |
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mtompset |
Sometimes reading code is such a pain. Goes back to reading marctagstructure.pl |
| 03:33 |
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mtompset |
Oh you have to be kidding me! The and is in the wrong order?! |
| 04:01 |
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mtompset |
Yes, that was it. |
| 04:09 |
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mtompset |
Next annoyance is that tag gets sorted when subfields are listed. |
| 04:23 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait. |
| 04:38 |
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cait |
hi mtompset |
| 04:39 |
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mtompset |
I had a productive morning. Squashed a couple of annoying warnings. How are you? |
| 04:39 |
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cait |
sleepy |
| 04:39 |
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mtompset |
As long as it wasn't caused by dreams of MARC structures, you're fine. ;) |
| 04:40 |
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cait |
ah no |
| 04:40 |
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cait |
only a long weekend |
| 04:40 |
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mtompset |
Grab your favorite form of caffeine, and try to wake up. AH! So today is like a Monday for you. :) |
| 04:41 |
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* mtompset |
passes cait some chocolate. :) |
| 04:41 |
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cait |
monday morning chocolate breakfast? why not. |
| 04:44 |
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mtompset |
Is there ever a bad time for chocolate? |
| 04:44 |
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cait |
hmm |
| 04:45 |
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cait |
that's a hard question |
| 04:45 |
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mtompset |
I thought it was easy and rhetorical. ;) |
| 04:45 |
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mtompset |
Though, I will accept: "If I step on a scale and see I have gained 10 kilos." |
| 04:57 |
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mtompset |
Hmmm... I decided to visit http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 04:57 |
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mtompset |
Scroll down: "Error: Feed has a error or is not valid" -- oops! That's not good. |
| 05:00 |
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cait |
hm didn't happen for me |
| 05:04 |
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rangi |
Can anyone remember what uni the Filipino guy was from? |
| 05:05 |
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mtompset |
What Filipino guy? |
| 05:05 |
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cait |
hm no |
| 05:06 |
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rangi |
Ah well never mind |
| 05:06 |
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mtompset |
Someone at KohaCon 2012? |
| 05:06 |
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rangi |
No on irc |
| 05:07 |
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mtompset |
I'm in the Philippines, but I don't think you mean me. :) |
| 05:08 |
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rangi |
Nope was at a university |
| 05:09 |
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mtompset |
nepter? |
| 05:10 |
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rangi |
No idea |
| 05:10 |
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rangi |
Not important now |
| 05:13 |
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mtompset |
You did say "apparently the director of the nat lib of the philippines is here, stopped by yesterday" on 2011-10-30. But I'll stop hunting now. ;) |
| 05:15 |
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mtompset |
Silly me I scrolled down... |
| 05:16 |
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mtompset |
qiqo(qo)... 2008-02-22... University of the Philippines. |
| 05:16 |
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mtompset |
Didn't say which branch though. |
| 05:18 |
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mtompset |
http://ilib.upd.edu.ph/ |
| 05:26 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 05:27 |
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| 05:30 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, magnuse. |
| 05:30 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, WaqarAzeem |
| 05:30 |
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magnuse |
hiya mtompset |
| 05:30 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 05:30 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on September 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:30 |
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mtompset |
@wunder MNL |
| 05:30 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Loyola Heights, Quezon City, Philippines is 27.6°C (1:15 PM PHT on September 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling). |
| 05:31 |
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magnuse |
you win! :-) |
| 05:31 |
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* magnuse |
wanders off to find breakfast |
| 05:32 |
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mtompset |
No wonder I don't feel like doing anything. This humidity is crazy. |
| 05:55 |
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* cait |
waves at magnuse |
| 06:02 |
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Mahroos |
Hi |
| 06:03 |
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Mahroos |
Is anybody her |
| 06:03 |
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Mahroos |
? |
| 06:03 |
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Mahroos |
Can you help me |
| 06:03 |
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Mahroos |
? |
| 06:03 |
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cait |
hi Mahroos - ask your question, if someone around know it, they will answer |
| 06:04 |
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Mahroos |
thank you for fast response |
| 06:04 |
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Mahroos |
my q |
| 06:04 |
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Mahroos |
is |
| 06:05 |
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Mahroos |
I have installed all the components of koha 3.0.0.0 on opensuse 11.4 but when I run make test command I got no response ? |
| 06:05 |
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cait |
hm |
| 06:06 |
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cait |
why did you install koha 3.0.0.0? |
| 06:06 |
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cait |
it's very old |
| 06:06 |
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cait |
really old in fact |
| 06:06 |
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cait |
you shouldn't be using that if you do a fresh installatoin now |
| 06:06 |
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Mahroos |
do you mean 3.8 |
| 06:07 |
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cait |
yes, that is the stable release |
| 06:07 |
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cait |
although you could also use 3.6.x |
| 06:07 |
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cait |
which is still in maintenane |
| 06:07 |
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cait |
3.0.0.0 was a stable release, but there were a lot of bug fixes and new features since then |
| 06:07 |
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cait |
are you starting fresh or are you already using Koha or have to migrate data? |
| 06:08 |
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Mahroos |
it actually fresh |
| 06:08 |
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cait |
I think I would use 3.8.x then |
| 06:08 |
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cait |
or 3.6, but nothing older than that |
| 06:08 |
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cait |
it's bit hard to tell why make test would do nothing - and I have no experience with opensuse |
| 06:08 |
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cait |
most people here are using debian or ubuntu |
| 06:09 |
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cait |
those distros make it very easy to install Koha |
| 06:09 |
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cait |
packages? |
| 06:09 |
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wahanui |
packages is probably at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 06:09 |
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cait |
there are debian packages for Koha |
| 06:09 |
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cait |
I think maybe you should try reinstalling a omre current version of Koha |
| 06:09 |
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cait |
as instructions for installation I woudl recommend using the files that come with Koha |
| 06:10 |
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cait |
they are labelled INSTALL.* |
| 06:10 |
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Mahroos |
actually i have used them |
| 06:10 |
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mtompset |
mahroos, are you Dennis Njuguna on the mailing list? |
| 06:11 |
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Mahroos |
no that is my name |
| 06:11 |
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Mahroos |
Mahroos Ali from Yemen |
| 06:11 |
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mtompset |
Just checking. |
| 06:12 |
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Mahroos |
it is ok |
| 06:12 |
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mtompset |
Because it seems like a few people are starting to trickle in trying openSUSE. |
| 06:12 |
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mtompset |
But the fact is there is far more ability to assist if you use a Debian-based operating system. |
| 06:13 |
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Mahroos |
opensuse is the one which is recommanded in our org |
| 06:13 |
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mtompset |
Ah. Organizational requirements. |
| 06:13 |
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mtompset |
I understand. |
| 06:13 |
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Mahroos |
yah |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
how did you choose 3.0.0.0? |
| 06:14 |
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mtompset |
That comes with the live CD. |
| 06:14 |
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Mahroos |
we are non-profit org to instance the Universities in our country |
| 06:14 |
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mtompset |
Those are the instructions in the wiki. |
| 06:14 |
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mtompset |
We don't really have people supporting openSuse. |
| 06:15 |
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mtompset |
I just went to the opensuse website... 12.2 is coming out in 2 days. |
| 06:15 |
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Mahroos |
yah exactly |
| 06:15 |
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mtompset |
What version of OpenSuse are you using? |
| 06:15 |
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Mahroos |
11.4 |
| 06:15 |
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mtompset |
The most current is the most likely to succeed. |
| 06:16 |
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mtompset |
And given that you are not a debian-based OS, you can ONLY do a tarball install. |
| 06:16 |
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Mahroos |
actually I had success story with koha 3.0.0.0 on opensuse 11.4 |
| 06:17 |
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cait |
but you really shouldn't use that version of Koha |
| 06:17 |
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cait |
it had lots of bugs |
| 06:28 |
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| 06:28 |
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wahanui |
mtompset: I forgot like what |
| 06:28 |
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mtompset |
Mahroos: use Debian or Ubuntu. |
| 06:28 |
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mtompset |
Those are the two operating systems used by most. |
| 06:28 |
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Mahroos |
yes |
| 06:29 |
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Mahroos |
done |
| 06:29 |
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Mahroos |
i will do that |
| 06:29 |
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mtompset |
And then use... |
| 06:29 |
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mtompset |
packages? |
| 06:29 |
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wahanui |
i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 06:29 |
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mtompset |
It says Debian. It will work for Ubuntu too. |
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mtompset |
developers! developers! developers! -- Hi, mbalmer. ;) |
| 06:31 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 06:31 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.7°C (8:25 AM CEST on September 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:32 |
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mbalmer |
mtompset, ahh, that joke…. do you realize that microsofts ballmer has two 'l's while I have only one? |
| 06:32 |
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mtompset |
I know, but you still make me think of it. :) |
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alex_a |
hello |
| 06:37 |
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mtompset |
bonjour! |
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| 06:41 |
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magnuse |
hm, i'm still seeing the behaviour described in bug 8251 on 3.8.4 |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
| 06:45 |
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magnuse |
oops, that's weird. now it happened on a customer installation but not on the demo installation, running on the same package install... |
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reiveune |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour reiveune |
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mveron |
Good morming #koha |
| 07:07 |
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mveron |
morning... (should put my glasses) |
| 07:11 |
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magnuse |
anyone else seeing Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin on 3.8.4? |
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| 07:18 |
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mtompset |
Don't have a 3.8.4 to check, sorry. |
| 07:18 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, mveron |
| 07:19 |
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mveron |
Hi mtompset |
| 07:19 |
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magnuse |
kia ora kf! |
| 07:20 |
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kf |
hi magnuse :) |
| 07:20 |
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magnuse |
kf: do you have customers on 3.8.4? |
| 07:20 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, kf. |
| 07:21 |
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kf |
no, we are on 3.6.3 currently I think |
| 07:22 |
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magnuse |
pft :-) |
| 07:28 |
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* mtompset |
gives kf a high-five. |
| 07:28 |
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mtompset |
So are we! :) |
| 07:28 |
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magnuse |
laggards :-) |
| 07:29 |
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kf |
pf |
| 07:29 |
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magnuse |
now i can't even save "circulation and fine rules" |
| 07:29 |
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magnuse |
is it monday today? |
| 07:30 |
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kf |
it is monday. |
| 07:30 |
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magnuse |
ah... |
| 07:30 |
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kf |
magnuse: what do the logs say? |
| 07:31 |
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kf |
if you can't save somethng often a database problem in my experience |
| 07:31 |
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magnuse |
good question |
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kf |
good morning paul_p |
| 07:32 |
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paul_p |
good morning #koha |
| 07:32 |
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magnuse |
kia ora paul_p |
| 07:32 |
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magnuse |
hm, lots of uninitialized values in circulation.pl |
| 07:33 |
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kf |
I think that's not new - sadly |
| 07:34 |
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kf |
hm |
| 07:34 |
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kf |
installed Koha using the packages for master |
| 07:34 |
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kf |
and it's still complaining about a lot of missing packages |
| 07:36 |
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magnuse |
kf: mandatory or optional packages? |
| 07:37 |
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kf |
makefile doesn't tell |
| 07:37 |
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kf |
y |
| 07:37 |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
| 07:39 |
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magnuse |
huh - the installation that does *not* debarr on return has lots of DBD::mysql::db errors in the log... |
| 07:40 |
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kf |
huh? |
| 07:40 |
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drojf |
reading the log… so 3.6.x is going to be koha's windows XP that people use forever instead of upgrading to the new version? :P |
| 07:40 |
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kf |
nah, I don't think so |
| 07:41 |
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slef |
that was 2.2.9 |
| 07:42 |
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drojf |
oh i forgot good old 2.2.9 on windows :) |
| 07:42 |
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slef |
nevere mind on windows |
| 07:42 |
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slef |
there were lots of 2.2 installations for ages after 3.0 was released |
| 07:43 |
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slef |
and the upgrade to 3.0 seems to have been so painful that quite a few libraries seem to have gone "never again" and I'm still upgrading libraries from 3.0 this summer |
| 07:43 |
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drojf |
:( |
| 07:44 |
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slef |
but then, I flamed a lot over 2.9/3.0's mistakes already, so I'll not repeat now. 3.2->4->6->8 is far better |
| 07:44 |
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slef |
and 2->4 had quite a lot of ways it could have gone badly, detaching items |
| 07:45 |
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slef |
damn it... fan fault here, rebooting, ttyl |
| 07:46 |
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slef |
hmmm... it stopped when I threatened a reboot ;) |
| 07:46 |
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drojf |
lol |
| 07:46 |
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slef |
sentient workstations! |
| 07:47 |
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slef |
it's like they KNOW when it's Monday morning or Friday afternoon |
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* paul_p |
enter "pushing patches" mode.. |
| 08:02 |
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* mtompset |
cheers paul_p on. |
| 08:03 |
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pastebot |
"magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "patron getting debarred on checkin" (89 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/150 |
| 08:03 |
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* magnuse |
cheers paul_p on too |
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mveron |
Hi again #koha |
| 08:09 |
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mveron |
and paul_p ++ |
| 08:09 |
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mveron |
drojf:When will your library be online? |
| 08:10 |
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drojf |
mveron: imported data is checked this week, we#ll see how that goes |
| 08:10 |
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mtompset |
what version of koha, drojf? |
| 08:11 |
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drojf |
3.8.3 at the moment. will probably be the latest 3.8.x plus some local patches when we actually anounce it |
| 08:12 |
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mveron |
drojf: Ich drücke dir die Daumen ( ~ good luck) |
| 08:12 |
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drojf |
danke :) |
| 08:13 |
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kf |
:( |
| 08:13 |
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kf |
bug 7430 |
| 08:13 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED WONTFIX, ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio |
| 08:13 |
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kf |
drojf: and good luck |
| 08:14 |
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magnuse |
yeah, sounds like jcamins got tired of rebasing |
| 08:14 |
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kf |
and it was passed qa. |
| 08:14 |
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drojf |
kf: thanks :) |
| 08:14 |
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kf |
improvement discussed to death. |
| 08:14 |
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kf |
so now we get no improvement at all. |
| 08:15 |
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rangi |
kaizen |
| 08:15 |
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kf |
yeah |
| 08:15 |
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kf |
I am with you rangi |
| 08:15 |
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rangi |
we should do more of that, perfect is the enemy of good enough |
| 08:16 |
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* kf |
nods |
| 08:16 |
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magnuse |
kaizen is Japanese for "improvement", or "change for the better" |
| 08:17 |
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rangi |
yep, small continuous improvement |
| 08:17 |
|
* magnuse |
is a strong believer in that |
| 08:17 |
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rangi |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaizen |
| 08:18 |
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rangi |
magnuse: hmm that seems like something is up with circ rules, we have people using 3.8.4 and havent bumped into that yet |
| 08:19 |
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magnuse |
yeah, i'm starting to think it's a data thing |
| 08:19 |
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slef |
5 whys! |
| 08:20 |
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magnuse |
they have Suspension in days set to 7, but patrons are debarred until 18/03/2013 - which seems like a very long time... |
| 08:22 |
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kf |
how overdue are the items? |
| 08:24 |
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magnuse |
not at all, i issue and then return, and the patron is debarred |
| 08:24 |
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kf |
hm |
| 08:24 |
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kf |
thought that got fixed |
| 08:24 |
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kf |
there was a bug in bugzilla |
| 08:25 |
|
magnuse |
bug 8251 |
| 08:25 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
| 08:26 |
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rangi |
yep it was pushed before 3.8.4 so should be there |
| 08:27 |
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magnuse |
rangi: did you just push the followup on that bug? |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
the one for bug 8486 was pushed too |
| 08:28 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8486 blocker, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Critical error in Koha::Calendar::days_between calculation |
| 08:28 |
|
magnuse |
Chris Cormack 2012-07-18 08:28:12 UTC "So far, none of the 3 patches are in 3.8.x" http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=8251#c28 |
| 08:28 |
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huginn |
Bug 8251: critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
| 08:29 |
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magnuse |
so with the patches from 8486, only the followup from 8251 was needed? |
| 08:32 |
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rangi |
thats what i thought, but you could try that first 8251 patch |
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magnuse |
nah, the first 8251 patch looks like it will not apply any longer, because of the first patch for 8486 |
| 08:42 |
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slef |
rangi: any thoughts on my foreign key problem? http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-08-31#i_1063330 |
| 08:44 |
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rangi |
looks like you have a row that references a borrower that has been deleted |
| 08:44 |
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slef |
oh whoops |
| 08:44 |
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slef |
wrong error :) |
| 08:45 |
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slef |
http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-08-31#i_1063664 |
| 08:45 |
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slef |
that's the vexing one |
| 08:45 |
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slef |
sorry for wasting an eyeball |
| 08:45 |
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rangi |
hmm nope, havent seen that one |
| 08:46 |
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rangi |
there is only one entry for it eh? |
| 08:46 |
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slef |
dang |
| 08:46 |
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slef |
for 16? |
| 08:47 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 08:47 |
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slef |
think so - just checking... the hoops I have to jump to get on the VPN from mobile internet are a bit icky |
| 08:48 |
|
slef |
yeah, only one row |
| 08:48 |
|
slef |
| bit | flag | flagdesc | defaulton | |
| 08:48 |
|
slef |
+-----+---------+---------------------------------------+-----------+ |
| 08:48 |
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slef |
| 16 | reports | Allow to access to the reports module | 0 | |
| 08:48 |
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rangi |
hmm then nope |
| 08:48 |
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slef |
looked banilla to me to |
| 08:48 |
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slef |
vanilla |
| 08:49 |
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slef |
just can't do the INSERT :-/ |
| 08:50 |
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slef |
don't really see why it wants to "add or update a child row" |
| 08:50 |
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slef |
show grants; |
| 08:50 |
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slef |
ww |
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| 08:55 |
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slef |
nope not that :-/ |
| 09:02 |
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mveron |
paul_p:I have a shy question: What happens to bug 7621 (Age restriction)? It is a very important enhancement we really need in Switzerland. Would be very grateful to see it pushed :-) |
| 09:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Signed Off , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories |
| 09:03 |
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paul_p |
mveron = what happens is just that I have 3 weeks of bugs to push (80 patches), and there are also 80 waiting for QA ;-) ) |
| 09:03 |
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paul_p |
mveron = my pile is something like 40 now, and I hope I'll have finished on wed |
| 09:07 |
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mveron |
paul_p: That's a huge amount of work and I really appreciate what you do for Koha. Hope anyway that the age restriction gets through... :-) |
| 09:09 |
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kf |
paul_p: lots of rebasing work has gone into it - poor mveron |
| 09:11 |
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kf |
I know it happens, but I can undertsand him asking :) |
| 09:19 |
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| 09:22 |
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magnuse |
rangi: avoiding "Suspension in days" in the circulation and fine rules seems to eliminate the debar problem. do your customers use "Suspension in days"? |
| 09:22 |
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rangi |
no |
| 09:23 |
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magnuse |
ah hah... |
| 09:23 |
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kf |
neither do ours |
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| 09:23 |
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magnuse |
neither did mine, or so i thought until i checked... :-) |
| 09:23 |
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kf |
hm true |
| 09:26 |
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drojf |
i'm really glad that we do not have much circulation and don't have fines |
| 09:30 |
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magnuse |
hehe, that does save some headaches :-) |
| 09:30 |
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cjh |
mib_lyvuwn: if you have a koha question then the place to ask it is in here. |
| 09:39 |
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mib_lyvuwn |
anybody have experience regarding "sending sms from koha" |
| 09:42 |
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rangi |
not me |
| 09:49 |
|
* magnuse |
neither |
| 09:53 |
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* mveron |
...has th head away |
| 09:59 |
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mib_lyvuwn |
anybody have experience regarding "sending sms from koha" |
| 10:00 |
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kf |
mib_lyvuwn: sorry no |
| 10:00 |
|
kf |
better try the mailing lists |
| 10:03 |
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drojf |
mib_lyvuwn: please don't send private messages to random people. it does not lead to a faster answer and is considered impolite by many people. ask in the channel, if somebody knows an answer s/he will tell you. |
| 10:03 |
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drojf |
i have no experience with sending sms from koha, sorry |
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| 10:05 |
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hdl |
hi all |
| 10:05 |
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rangi |
hi hdl |
| 10:05 |
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hdl |
kf around ? |
| 10:05 |
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kf |
yes |
| 10:05 |
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hdl |
rangi: do you know of any library which uses Match Check rules quite intensively ? |
| 10:06 |
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rangi |
nope |
| 10:06 |
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hdl |
That is have more than one match check rules in Matching rules ? |
| 10:06 |
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rangi |
nope |
| 10:07 |
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hdl |
what is the "community" position about C4::Matcher ? |
| 10:07 |
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hdl |
Is it to be deprecated by Koha::Indexer ? |
| 10:07 |
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hdl |
Or will it be supported for some while ? |
| 10:07 |
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kf |
I don't think this has been discussed yet |
| 10:07 |
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kf |
and the Koha:: things are still not settled |
| 10:08 |
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magnuse |
sounds like something jcamins_away might have an opinion on |
| 10:08 |
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kf |
yeah, but bit early for him |
| 10:09 |
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magnuse |
yup |
| 10:09 |
|
* magnuse |
goes hunting for lunch |
| 10:09 |
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hdl |
ok. |
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| 10:10 |
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kf |
yay eythian |
| 10:10 |
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kf |
um. |
| 10:10 |
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kf |
good morning :) |
| 10:17 |
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eythian |
hi |
| 10:17 |
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wahanui |
bonjour, eythian |
| 10:17 |
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eythian |
wifi being crap, not sure how long I'll remain online |
| 10:17 |
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eythian |
a pox on crappy consumer routers! |
| 10:17 |
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kf |
you could have stayed here... but no... |
| 10:17 |
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kf |
;) |
| 10:17 |
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* mtompset |
laughs, "Greetings again, #koha." |
| 10:20 |
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drojf |
eythian: left konstanz? |
| 10:21 |
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eythian |
yep |
| 10:22 |
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drojf |
where are you now? |
| 10:25 |
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mtompset |
somewhere with crappy consumer routers. ;) |
| 10:26 |
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mtompset |
Was it something I said? :( |
| 10:27 |
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eythian |
Oosterhout |
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mtompset |
Welcome back, drojf. eythian said, "Oosterhout" |
| 10:39 |
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drojf |
ok i'll have some "crappy consumer routers" too |
| 10:39 |
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drojf |
thanks mtompset, just looked at the log :) |
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mtompset |
I was trying to save you reading the IRC log. ;) |
| 10:39 |
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drojf |
i'll do next time :) |
| 10:42 |
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hdl |
nice beer in OosterHout btw |
| 10:44 |
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drojf |
nice beer in nl? i suppose that does not mean "heineken"? |
| 10:56 |
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* mtompset |
grins. |
| 10:57 |
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mtompset |
A beer sampling skill, drojf? |
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| 10:59 |
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mtompset |
Here goes another koha-common install attempt. |
| 10:59 |
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mtompset |
Practice makes perfect. :) |
| 11:01 |
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hdl |
drojf: nope. Abbaye beer from Oosterhout. |
| 11:01 |
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hdl |
And it tastes really good. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8332' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b5239200ad5063ed8> / Bug 8332 follow-up: make strings translatable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1108cd8c5531376e2> / Bug 8332: Add relationships to auth_finder for authority links <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git |
| 11:03 |
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eythian |
fingers crossed it'll remain stable now |
| 11:05 |
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drojf |
hdl: sounds great |
| 11:06 |
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drojf |
mtompset: do you use that as a kind of meditation by now? ;) |
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| 11:07 |
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eythian |
drojf: do you mean that there's nice beer made here, or a good place to find it? |
| 11:07 |
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* mtompset |
chuckles. Not quite. |
| 11:08 |
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eythian |
I've found "Cafe de beurs" which has a very good selection |
| 11:08 |
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eythian |
no wait |
| 11:08 |
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eythian |
I meant to address that to hdl |
| 11:10 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #809 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 0 days ago) |
| 11:23 |
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kf |
gah, now I missed droifj |
| 11:24 |
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kf |
and I had a berlin question for him |
| 11:28 |
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eythian |
I'm sure he'll be back |
| 11:30 |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha. |
| 11:35 |
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magnuse |
kia ora jcamins! |
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| 11:39 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, jcamins. |
| 11:41 |
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mtompset |
eythian: looks like it is still unstable. :( |
| 11:41 |
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eythian |
mtompset: no, I've not been disconnected for a while now |
| 11:42 |
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mtompset |
I meant the jenkins build. |
| 11:42 |
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mtompset |
sorry for the cross-talk. |
| 11:42 |
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kf |
hi jcamins |
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mtompset |
Dumb question/thought... why isn't koha_perl_deps.pl in the koha-common packages? |
| 12:03 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: because it isn't needed. |
| 12:03 |
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jcamins |
The packages install all the requirements. |
| 12:03 |
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jcamins |
*dependencies |
| 12:04 |
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mtompset |
I know... I suppose I'm feeling paranoid enough to check. ;) |
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| 12:15 |
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jcamins |
Is there any way to get the number of substitutions performed by s//? |
| 12:15 |
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eythian |
jcamins: you mean s///g? |
| 12:17 |
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jcamins |
eythian: you're right, that was poorly phrased. |
| 12:17 |
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jcamins |
I want to know whether a s/// did 0 or 1 substitutions. |
| 12:17 |
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jcamins |
(i.e. whether it did anything or not) |
| 12:18 |
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eythian |
that's a good question. |
| 12:18 |
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eythian |
wait |
| 12:18 |
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eythian |
yes |
| 12:18 |
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eythian |
I think it returns the number of substitutions |
| 12:19 |
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eythian |
(or false if none) |
| 12:20 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #809: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/809/ |
| 12:20 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8525: highlight matches on OPAC detail page |
| 12:20 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 8525: Followup Don't reset the hz scrollbar to the top |
| 12:20 |
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jenkins_koha |
* 5p4m: Bug 8492 [ENH] Restrict OpacSuppression to IP adresses outside of an IP range |
| 12:20 |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Bug 8492 follow-up DBRev number |
| 12:20 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8525 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Highlight matches on details page |
| 12:20 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8207 follow-up: correct typo in authority types |
| 12:20 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8207 follow-up: correct typo in authority types |
| 12:20 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8332: Add relationships to auth_finder for authority links |
| 12:20 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8332 follow-up: make strings translatable |
| 12:20 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8492 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , Restrict OpacSuppression to IP adresses outside of an IP range |
| 12:20 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8207 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Modify authority type frameworks to allow see also fields to link to thesauri |
| 12:20 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8332 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add relationships to auth_finder for authority links |
| 12:20 |
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eythian |
jcamins: up above jenkins_koha |
| 12:21 |
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jcamins |
eythian: Ah, thanks. |
| 12:22 |
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eythian |
test it of course, but I think it's the case |
| 12:24 |
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janPasi |
hi #koha |
| 12:25 |
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jcamins |
I'm blanking on whether this is a valid Perl idiom: foreach my ($index, $label) (%indexes) { |
| 12:25 |
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jcamins |
Help? |
| 12:25 |
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wahanui |
i heard Help was at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help. |
| 12:25 |
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jcamins |
Oh, I remember. |
| 12:25 |
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jcamins |
= each (%indexes) |
| 12:27 |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
| 12:28 |
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eythian |
you're welcome. |
| 12:31 |
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janPasi |
hey, how come doesn't apt-get upgrage upgrade the koha to the latest version? |
| 12:31 |
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jcamins |
janPasi: you didn't do an apt-get update on the koha-community.org repo? |
| 12:34 |
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janPasi |
jcamins: yep i did |
| 12:34 |
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janPasi |
it's in my /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:34 |
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jcamins |
janPasi: in that case, I'm stumped. ;) |
| 12:34 |
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jcamins |
What version are you on? |
| 12:34 |
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janPasi |
3.6 |
| 12:34 |
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janPasi |
i would like to upgrade it to 3.8 |
| 12:34 |
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janPasi |
deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main |
| 12:35 |
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janPasi |
this is the line in sources.list |
| 12:35 |
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jcamins |
That looks right to me. |
| 12:35 |
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jcamins |
And you ran apt-get update? |
| 12:35 |
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janPasi |
yep |
| 12:35 |
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jcamins |
What happens when you do apt-get upgrade? |
| 12:35 |
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janPasi |
also the koha repository is listed with apt-get update |
| 12:36 |
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eythian |
I would expect it to go from 3.6 to 3.8, but I've never actually tested that |
| 12:36 |
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jcamins |
Does it say anything about koha-common being held back? |
| 12:36 |
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jcamins |
Nor have I. I use oldstable. |
| 12:36 |
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janPasi |
Hit http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze Release.gpg |
| 12:36 |
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janPasi |
Ign http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ squeeze/main Translation-en |
| 12:36 |
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janPasi |
Ign http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ squeeze/main Translation-en_US |
| 12:36 |
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janPasi |
Ign http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ squeeze/main Translation-en_US.UTF-8 |
| 12:36 |
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janPasi |
Hit http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze Release |
| 12:36 |
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janPasi |
Ign http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze/main amd64 Packages |
| 12:36 |
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janPasi |
Ign http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze/main amd64 Packages |
| 12:36 |
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janPasi |
Hit http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze/main amd64 Packages |
| 12:37 |
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jcamins |
Right, that's the update. |
| 12:37 |
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janPasi |
that's what it says |
| 12:37 |
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janPasi |
yeah |
| 12:37 |
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jcamins |
I want to know what the upgrade says. |
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| 12:37 |
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janPasi |
upgrade seems to want to upgrade everything but koha packages |
| 12:37 |
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jcamins |
Use paste.koha-community.org to share that. |
| 12:37 |
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janPasi |
au |
| 12:37 |
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janPasi |
ah |
| 12:37 |
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janPasi |
upgrade says koha-common is "kept back" |
| 12:38 |
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janPasi |
why is this? |
| 12:38 |
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jcamins |
I don't know. |
| 12:38 |
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eythian |
perhaps try a dist-upgrade, might be the new dependencies. |
| 12:38 |
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jcamins |
As we just said, neither eythian nor I have ever had the nerve to upgrade to 3.8. |
| 12:39 |
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jcamins |
That makes sense. |
| 12:39 |
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eythian |
oh, I run some 3.8, I just haven't done an upgrade to it from the community repos yet |
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janPasi |
http://paste.koha-community.org/151 |
| 12:39 |
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janPasi |
here's the paste |
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jcamins |
Yeah, try apt-get dist-upgrade |
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drojf |
yes dist-upgrade should solve that, i had that before |
| 12:40 |
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janPasi |
but you wouldn't recomment upgrading to 3.8 from 3.6? |
| 12:40 |
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jcamins |
janPasi: I am very conservative. Many people are running 3.8 without any problems. |
| 12:40 |
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eythian |
> under no circumstances are currently installed packages removed, or |
| 12:40 |
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eythian |
packages not already installed retrieved and installed. |
| 12:40 |
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eythian |
that'll be why |
| 12:40 |
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eythian |
there are new deps in 3.8 |
| 12:41 |
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eythian |
janPasi: 3.8 has got a lot better lately I think, it had problems initially. |
| 12:41 |
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janPasi |
yeah, that's what i've heard |
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* jcamins |
is recommending 3.8 for new installs at this point, but there are still some minor issues with upgrades from 3.6.x. |
| 12:44 |
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janPasi |
hmm, so it might be a good idea to wait a bit |
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eythian |
mveron: g'day |
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janPasi |
or build a test-system and test the upgrade with that |
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mveron |
hi eythian |
| 12:45 |
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jcamins |
That's the better option. |
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janPasi |
before upgrading the production system |
| 12:45 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 12:45 |
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jcamins |
Test_systems++ |
| 12:46 |
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eythian |
http://sourceforge.net/projects/koha-3-live-cd/ <-- I think we should get osslabs to take this down |
| 12:46 |
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janPasi |
ok, thank you :) |
| 12:47 |
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jcamins |
eythian: agreed. |
| 12:48 |
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jcamins |
To be honest, I don't think that livecds are a good idea. They are out of date the moment they're released. |
| 12:48 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 12:48 |
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mtompset |
Let me guess, in response to the person on the mailing list? |
| 12:48 |
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eythian |
though kyle's one apparently allows upgrading via git |
| 12:48 |
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mtompset |
The only thing livecds are good for are installing an OS. |
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jcamins |
eythian: yeah, but it means that you have to know how git works. |
| 12:50 |
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eythian |
yeah |
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mtompset |
By the way you can rate it negatively without logging in. ;) |
| 12:51 |
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mtompset |
People who are prone to use livecd's also would fear a large negative rating. ;) |
| 12:55 |
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eythian |
the guy in the list doesn't seem to be the best at noticing things like that, given his latest attempt is with one that is still way outdated. |
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* jcamins |
does not like people asking for help off-list. |
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kf |
jcamins++ eythian++ |
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samuel |
hello everybody |
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Joubu |
hi #koha |
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jcamins |
Nnnnnngggg. |
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jcamins |
What was the last thing I said? |
| 13:02 |
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jcamins |
Oh, yeah. |
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drojf |
lol |
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jcamins |
It was "I do not like people asking for help off-list." |
| 13:03 |
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jcamins |
Hello samuel and Joubu. |
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eythian |
On the plus side, I didn't get an email :) |
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mtompset |
http://sourceforge.net/project[…]?source=directory |
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drojf |
i'd like to add "off-channel" to that for the irc |
| 13:03 |
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samuel |
question: i've made successfully an import in koha but there's something i don't understand. Most of results are good but for some others i've this "No answer". What does it mean? |
| 13:03 |
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mtompset |
Another project to attempt to kill. |
| 13:04 |
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jcamins |
samuel: what are you doing? |
| 13:05 |
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mtompset |
to express it another way: what steps are you taking to do what you are doing? |
| 13:05 |
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tcohen |
morning #koha! |
| 13:05 |
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mveron |
Many thanks to Mason James for QA-ing the age restriction :-) |
| 13:06 |
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jcamins |
Hola. |
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tcohen |
bgkriegel has just completed the spanish translation! |
| 13:06 |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
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jcamins |
bgkriegel++ |
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drojf |
i'd like to add that i think live-cds are bad. they raise the hope one could maintain a professional library system without any knowledge of the system itself and all things underlying. how could that possibly turn out ok? |
| 13:07 |
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mtompset |
drojf: That's what it should be. But that is NEVER what it is. |
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eythian |
drojf: yes |
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mtompset |
Oh... That's strange... |
| 13:15 |
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mtompset |
Is mysql-server not in the packages? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: it's not a requirement on the same system as Koha. |
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mtompset |
And that's why it says to sudo apt-get it. |
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mtompset |
Okay. |
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eythian |
yep |
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mtompset |
okay... bizarre situation... |
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mtompset |
I attempted to clear out everything koha. |
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mtompset |
removed mysql |
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mtompset |
removed apache |
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mtompset |
removed a whack load of libraries including koha-common. |
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mtompset |
Then... I attempted to reinstall koha-common. |
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* eythian |
always wonders why people think that is likely to do anything useful |
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mtompset |
because you should be able to uninstall and reinstall it |
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eythian |
ok, yes, I would expect that to cause it to mostly come back as it was. |
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mtompset |
well, I did rm's of /var/lib/koha and anything else that looked koha too. |
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mtompset |
So, I am expecting koha-create... to run smoothly. |
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mtompset |
but it tells me a user already existed. |
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eythian |
you probably didn't remove the user that koha-create created |
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mtompset |
but I go into mysql and there is no such user. |
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jcamins |
It's the system user. |
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mtompset |
oh... the home directories? |
| 13:31 |
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eythian |
no, the system user |
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jcamins |
If you want to remove a Koha instance, use koha-remove. |
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jcamins |
If you don't use koha-remove, you'll leave bits and pieces all the heck over the place. |
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mtompset |
oh, it's an entry in /etc/passwd./ |
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eythian |
user userdel to remove it. |
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eythian |
don't go editing the passwd file |
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mtompset |
no, I wont. |
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eythian |
*use userdel... |
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mtompset |
okay... userdel. |
| 13:33 |
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eythian |
or maybe it's deluser |
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eythian |
I can never remember |
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mtompset |
it's userdel... okay... I think I'm back on track for a reinstall. |
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mtompset |
great... back on track. |
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tcohen |
i know there'no position available for QA'ing ubuntu-related documentation, but, I'd like to volunteer |
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eythian |
tcohen: perhaps add the position to the wiki and mention it on the list, if you're keen |
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eythian |
I don't think anyone would object. |
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Oak |
Ahoy me hearties |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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Oak |
Guten tag kf |
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kf |
hi Oak |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! I successfully generated breadcrumbs using a hash. |
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eythian |
eh? |
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jcamins |
eythian: right now we hardcode the breadcrumbs on every page. |
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jcamins |
Duplicating the div, etc. |
| 13:39 |
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jcamins |
I find that inelegant. |
| 13:39 |
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eythian |
yep |
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pastebot |
"jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "I find this more elegant" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/152 |
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mtompset |
tcohen: Sadly, you signed off. You can't QA. |
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mtompset |
Oh... roles... never mind. |
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eythian |
jcamins: ahhh. I read "hash" as "something like SHA1" and was confused. |
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kf |
and qa can only be done by the elected qa team :) |
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eythian |
for documentation? |
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mtompset |
Greetings, Oak and tcohen . |
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jcamins |
eythian: for documentation included in the distribution, yes. |
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kf |
jcamins: I don't like it I am afraid |
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kf |
translations. |
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wahanui |
translations are always committed on the stable branches |
| 13:41 |
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mtompset |
Okay... so, can someone explain why I have my OPAC page coming up for my staff client now? |
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kf |
we would have to teach the translation scripts to parse those labels first, at the moment it only speaks html |
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jcamins |
kf: ooh, good point. |
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jcamins |
Darn. |
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* jcamins |
goes back to hardcoding. |
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eythian |
do we not have a way to translate perl within templates? |
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jcamins |
eythian: we don't have a way to translate Perl at all. |
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eythian |
we could implement something like the JS _("string") thing there I'd expect |
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jcamins |
Someone else could, but this is definitely not something I'll be spending time on. |
| 13:43 |
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jcamins |
So far no one has expressed an interest in paying to make breadcrumbs consistent. ;) |
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kf |
eythian: we could teach the scripts - but I won't go there - too scary. |
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Oak |
hello mtompset :) |
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tcohen |
mtompset: maybe i'll continue signing patches then |
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mtompset |
I really hate reverse proxies. |
| 13:47 |
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mtompset |
Okay... so, can someone explain why I have my OPAC page coming up for my staff client now? |
| 13:47 |
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mtompset |
I know how to rewrite the apache rules to get it to work, but its ugly and not default. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: you have your DNS set up incorrectly. |
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eythian |
or your virtual host setup |
| 13:49 |
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eythian |
well, more likely DNS if this is a fresh install |
| 13:49 |
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mtompset |
If I change the rewrite rules I can get it to work. |
| 13:49 |
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mtompset |
I don't know why I have to do that. |
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eythian |
you don't have to change rewrite rules |
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eythian |
I wonder if you have the wrong ServerName set |
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eythian |
apache will hit the first virtual host it finds if there's nothing that matches, that's what's happening to you |
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eythian |
(most likely) |
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mtompset |
But the virtual server name matches. |
| 13:52 |
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mtompset |
The weird thing is... apache logs the WRONG name. |
| 13:52 |
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mtompset |
if I change the the two rewrite files in /etc/... |
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eythian |
what are you talking about when you say rewrite files? |
| 13:52 |
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mtompset |
to have the correct name hardcoded before the $1. |
| 13:53 |
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eythian |
I think you may be doing things the Hard Way somewhere |
| 13:53 |
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jcamins |
Also the Wrong Way. |
| 13:53 |
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eythian |
I'd give dollars to doughnuts that apache is logging what it's seeing |
| 13:53 |
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mtompset |
Correct... which is why I'm asking what the wrong why. |
| 13:53 |
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mtompset |
what the right way is. |
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mtompset |
apache-shared-intranet.conf? |
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eythian |
what are you asking? |
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eythian |
with that question mark and filename. |
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jcamins |
There is absolutely no reason you should be editing that file. |
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mtompset |
RewriteRule (.+) $1?%1%2 [N,R,NE] |
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mtompset |
RewriteRule ^/bib/([^\/]*)/?$ /cgi-bin/koha/detail\.pl?bib=$1 [PT] |
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mtompset |
RewriteRule ^/isbn/([^\/]*)/?$ /search?q=isbn:$1 [PT] |
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mtompset |
RewriteRule ^/issn/([^\/]*)/?$ /search?q=issn:$1 [PT] |
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mtompset |
-- it is the apache-shared-intranet.conf file that has these line which I add hardcoded site names to. |
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jcamins |
Do not edit those. |
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jcamins |
Don't. |
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mtompset |
I know I 'm not supposed to. |
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jcamins |
Once you change that, you've broken any future package installations. |
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mtompset |
So the question is... how can I get it to work with the reverse proxy? |
| 13:57 |
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jcamins |
Fix the reverse proxy. |
| 13:57 |
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mtompset |
I'm asking for permission now. |
| 13:57 |
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eythian |
presumably the reverse proxy is still sending through a Host: header |
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jcamins |
Tell it not to rewrite the Host: header. |
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eythian |
and that Host: header is different between the opac and the staff client |
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eythian |
if so, all you need to do is put that in as a ServerName or ServerAlias |
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eythian |
if, however, it's changing it so they can't be distinguished, then your reverse proxy is buggered. |
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mtompset |
but if I hard code it... it logs correctly. |
| 14:00 |
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mtompset |
So the reverse proxy is only HALF busted. |
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eythian |
I think you're not setting up your virtual hosting with your reverse proxy in mind. That would cause what you're seeing, but I don't know how or why you'd change rewrite rules to change this. |
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mtompset |
by changing the intranet file I said, and putting the sitename hardcoded. |
| 14:05 |
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mtompset |
Because the other oddity we are doing is switching from https to http. |
| 14:05 |
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mtompset |
https to the reverse proxy and http to the koha vm. |
| 14:05 |
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eythian |
that shouldn't make a difference really |
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kf |
meh. |
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kf |
does someone know if serials search is broken in 3.8.4? |
| 14:08 |
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kf |
or has someone an installation and can do a quick test for me maybe? |
| 14:08 |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
never mind... this is 3.6.3 |
| 14:09 |
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kf |
but it's broken |
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jcamins |
kf: serial search from where? |
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kf |
in this installation... why? *thinks* |
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kf |
top search in the serial module |
| 14:10 |
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kf |
this is actually quite weird |
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kf |
it works in another 3.6.3 installation |
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jcamins |
It works in 3.6.7+. One of my clients just started using serials. |
| 14:10 |
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jcamins |
Loves it. |
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kf |
nice to hear that :) |
| 14:10 |
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kf |
hope they wil too |
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kf |
but seriously |
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kf |
this is weird |
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kf |
it works in 2 other installations |
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kf |
only not in this one |
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mtompset |
diff -r? ;) |
| 14:11 |
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kf |
no access to the server |
| 14:11 |
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kf |
and it sounds like a bad idea |
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kf |
I would try the error logs first |
| 14:12 |
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mtompset |
Are you sure they are all 3.6.3? |
| 14:12 |
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kf |
yes |
| 14:12 |
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mtompset |
What steps are you taking? |
| 14:12 |
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mtompset |
I have a 3.6.3 :) |
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kf |
I tried a search in serials that worked in catalog |
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kf |
oooh |
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kf |
never mind. |
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kf |
it's me, the dumb user. |
| 14:13 |
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kf |
it only finds records with subscriptiosn, of course |
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* kf |
hides somewhere |
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mtompset |
It's okay. |
| 14:17 |
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mtompset |
Have some chocolate. |
| 14:17 |
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* mtompset |
hands kf some chocolate. |
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kf |
heh thx |
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eythian |
anyone seen something in 3.8 where you can't re-order people in a routing list? |
| 14:22 |
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kf |
brr |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (4:00 PM CEST on September 03, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
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eythian |
@wunder oosterhout |
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kf |
eythian: yes, in my presentation during the workshop |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in MeteOosterhout, Oosterhout Nb, Netherlands is 25.4°C (4:19 PM CEST on September 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
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eythian |
kf: ah right :) |
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kf |
eythian: you stole the warm weather! |
| 14:22 |
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eythian |
looks like I did |
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eythian |
kf: bug 8716 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8716 normal, P4, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Reordering of routing list entries doesn't work |
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Oak |
@wunder Islamabad |
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huginn |
Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 28.0°C (7:00 PM PKT on September 03, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising). |
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mtompset |
Does this mean he's hot, hot, hot? |
| 14:38 |
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mtompset |
Slow reply, bad joke. |
| 14:38 |
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mtompset |
I need to get to bed. |
| 14:38 |
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Oak |
:) |
| 14:39 |
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mtompset |
Have a good day (24 hour period) everyone. :) |
| 14:39 |
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Oak |
mtompset, you are a good addition to #koha family. |
| 14:39 |
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Oak |
i have started to notice when you are not around... and feel good when you join :) |
| 14:40 |
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mtompset |
Thanks, Oak. I appreciate that. :) |
| 14:40 |
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Oak |
:) you are welcome. have a good sleep. |
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* mtompset |
dances his way out listening to http://youtu.be/IGBXhDZXTqY (Feelin' hot, hot, hot) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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kf |
bye #koha |
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tcohen |
bye kf |
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mveron |
bye #koha |
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Joubu |
bye |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The Next General Meeting is 5 September 18 UTC |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7368: fixed subsribe typo <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ed0ea2c1a401d84f0> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8440' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bcce2c7210bd8d40a> / Bug 8440: Dates does not appear in suggestions management <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ommitdiff;h=4cf4b |
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Starting build #810 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 1 day ago) |
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paul_p |
hello back (not aware xchat was closed...) |
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* cait |
waves |
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eythian |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi eythian |
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eythian |
I'm sitting outside and working because it's not a bad day here. |
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cait |
this is weird again |
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cait |
I got used to you being in the next room :) |
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eythian |
heh |
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cait |
it's cold and grey here :( |
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cait |
and I have to study it law... |
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eythian |
I have to study LDAP, I suspect that may be worse... |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
not sure, it sounds nicer |
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cait |
I also finished the koha installation in the new ubuntu vm - and it#s even slower than it was on the old computer in debian |
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paul_p |
Hi eythian how are things in DE ? |
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cait |
paul_p: he is gone :( |
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paul_p |
hey, seems you're in NL (at least connected from nl ;-) ) |
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eythian |
cait: madness |
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eythian |
paul_p: yeah, in nl now |
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cait |
eythian: about the vm? yeah. |
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paul_p |
eythian = how long will you stay here ? when do you fly back ? |
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eythian |
paul_p: I'm here for a bit under three more weeks, I fly out on the 20th |
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* paul_p |
still has 33 patches passed QA to push ... almost 30 today ! |
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eythian |
sounds like the good kind of busy :) |
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paul_p |
tomorrow, i've a meeting all the day. I hope to have finished for the next IRC meeting ! |
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eythian |
that sounds like the less good kind of busy |
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paul_p |
OK, time for dinner for me. See you later ! |
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cait |
bye paul_p |
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eythian |
bye! |
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eythian |
slides? |
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wahanui |
slides is kf has written her slides. |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
eythian: I will send you the link as soon as the slides are online |
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eythian |
OK :) |
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eythian |
wahanui: pilze is mushrooms |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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cait |
hehe |
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cait |
zwiebeln is onions |
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cait |
zwiebeln? |
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wahanui |
zwiebeln is onions |
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jcamins_away |
Okay... does anyone know how to make a variable visible from outside a class? |
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eythian |
So I tied a zwiebel to by belt. Which was the style at the time. |
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cait |
lol |
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eythian |
jcamins: can you be more specific? |
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eythian |
Is it a package variable, or an object variable> |
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eythian |
? |
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jcamins |
Package variable. |
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eythian |
You should be able to use the fully qualified name, shouldn't you? |
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eythian |
(also, should you really be doing that?) |
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jcamins |
eythian: I have a variable -- well, constant -- called $NAME in the Koha::SuggestionEngine::Plugin::ExplodedTerm that I want to access from outside the class. |
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eythian |
And calling it Koha::...Term::variable_name doesn't work? |
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eythian |
I would have expected it to. |
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jcamins |
No. |
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jcamins |
And I thought it did. |
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eythian |
perhaps it needs to be declared with 'our' rather than 'my' |
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* jcamins |
has an idea. |
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jcamins |
Nope. I had my, switched to our, thought it worked, and am now finding that it's not working again. |
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eythian |
oh. |
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jcamins |
Well, again for the first time- I thought it worked on a different project. |
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* jcamins |
just tried my with no luck. |
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jcamins |
Wait, wait, wait. |
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jcamins |
I see the problem. |
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jcamins |
$plugin::NAME evaluates to plugin::NAME |
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jcamins |
Now... how do I do that successfully? |
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* jcamins |
considers just changing it to sub NAME. |
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eythian |
it shouldn't, it should evaluate to the content of #plugin |
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eythian |
$plugin rather |
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eythian |
followed by ::NAME |
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jcamins |
Actually, mystery solved. |
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jcamins |
The packages aren't being loaded. |
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eythian |
heh |
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eythian |
that would certainly do it |
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cait |
:) |
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jcamins |
I've decided the sub is better, even though it offends me. |
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jcamins |
I can't figure out what I did differently, but it resolutely refuses to work this time. |
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eythian |
hmm, it should work, so far as I understand things. |
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jcamins |
It has to do with the name of the class being in a variable. |
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jcamins |
Ooh, maybe I can add the subroutine to the base class. |
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* jcamins |
tries. |
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* cait |
sends chocolate |
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tcohen |
template_name => "authorities/authorities.tmpl" is sure wrong, isn't? |
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jcamins |
And.. no. Doesn't work. |
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jcamins |
tcohen: what's wrong with it? |
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tcohen |
the tmpl |
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tcohen |
part? |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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tcohen |
and not tt |
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jcamins |
That's translated to tt. |
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tcohen |
oh |
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jcamins |
You can change it to tt if you'd like. |
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eythian |
yeah, it's a hack from the tmpl->tt conversion |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #810: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/810/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* ruth: Bug 8012: default values for defaultSortField/defaultSortOrder NULL on install |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 8586: Small bug in die if no mapping in framework for biblioitems.biblioitemnumber |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 3374 - Display patron attributes in the same format as other patron data |
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jenkins_koha |
* robin: Bug 8391: prevent error when viewing circ history with bad dates |
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jenkins_koha |
* mtompset: Bug 4064 - Uninitialized variable errors in opac-search.pl Merely optimized two if statements, already fixed in master. |
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jenkins_koha |
* ruth: Bug 8569: Paying for lost item overwrites nonpublic notes. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8012 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , defaultSortOrder and OPACdefaultSortOrder are set to "ascending" on install |
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jenkins_koha |
* m.de.rooy: Bug 7805 Followup for perlcritic messages |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8586 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Small bug in die if no mapping in framework for biblioitems.biblioitemnumber |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 6494 - opacmysummaryhtml on reading history |
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jenkins_koha |
* matthias.meusburger: Bug 7412: Pre-filling items in cataloguing |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Bug 7412 follow-up |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Bug 7412 follow-up |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3374 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Display patron attributes in the same format as other patron data |
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jenkins_koha |
* adrien.saurat: Bug 7241: fix for the CIRC logs -> itemnumber stored correctly |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 7241: fix for the CIRC logs -> itemnumber stored correctly" |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8391 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Cannot view reading record through staff client |
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jenkins_koha |
* julian.maurice: Bug 7168: Add basket group search field in histsearch.pl |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 8440: Dates does not appear in suggestions management |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4064 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Uninitialized variable errors in opac-search.pl |
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jenkins_koha |
* kathryn: Bug 7368: fixed subsribe typo |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8569 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , Paying for a lost item overwrites nonpublic notes |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7805 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Exposing the new list permissions in opac and staff |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , opacmysummaryhtml on reading history |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7412 enhancement, P3, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Pre-filling items in cataloguing |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7241 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Failed QA , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Search orders by basket group name |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8440 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Dates does not appear in suggestions management |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General staff client typo omnibus |
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tcohen |
jcamins, I attached a new patch against bug 8520 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8520 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authorities display incorrectly in staff results |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I saw. |
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jcamins |
I will test it and sign off. |
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tcohen |
i searched for 'authorized' through the code to find more cases |
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jcamins |
Good idea! |
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tcohen |
and didn't find more |
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tcohen |
but will try again just in case |
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libsysguy |
when is the voting for 3.12 roles? |
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cait |
libsysguy: I think the meeting after this week - we didn't announce we would vote |
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cait |
libsysguy: I added it to the agenda that we have to set a date for voting |
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libsysguy |
ahh ok |
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libsysguy |
thanks cait |
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libsysguy |
I guess there aren't any positions so far that require voting |
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libsysguy |
looks like we are still missing a QAM though |
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cait |
yeah |
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libsysguy |
and a meeting leader |
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rangi |
Morning peeps |
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MrPeeper |
whatever that means |
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cait |
morning rangi :) |
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jcamins |
rangi: I have a puzzle for you. I am working on the suggestion engine plugin for bug 8211. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add "subject (broader)," "subject (narrower)," and "subject (related)" options for search |
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magnuse |
jcamins++ |
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jcamins |
The suggestion engine does not really use the templates at all. |
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rangi |
Right |
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jcamins |
So how the heck do I make "X and broader terms" translatable? |
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jcamins |
(X, of course, will beh user's search) |
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rangi |
You'll have to put them in something that is translatable |
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cait |
jcamins: templates |
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wahanui |
templates are written in Template::Toolkit. |
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cait |
preferrably |
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jcamins |
Right, how do I do that *without* turning the suggestion engine into the black hole of despair that breaking encapsulation invariably causes? |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
include file? |
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cait |
not sure htat was the right answer |
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jcamins |
I guess... run the text through a template for translation, then return that? |
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jcamins |
I guess I just have to use the HTMLToText plugin. |
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rangi |
Why? |
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rangi |
Why put html in the template? |
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cait |
hm |
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jcamins |
Because we can't translate non-HTML templates. |
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cait |
html in the perl file? |
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cait |
and what is it you want to tranlate? |
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jcamins |
No, we can't translate Perl files. |
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cait |
and how does it work? |
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jcamins |
I don't need any HTML at all. |
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cait |
yes, I thought rangi meant that |
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cait |
I am confused by now |
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jcamins |
I am generating JSON. |
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cait |
can you tell how it works now? so we can make useful suggestions? :) |
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rangi |
No you don't just a .tt |
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jcamins |
With the following text: "X and broader headings." |
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jcamins |
Right now, it just returns "X and broader headings." |
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rangi |
Without html in it |
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rangi |
It should translate any .tt |
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jcamins |
Oh, I see. The problem with the cart was the line breaks. |
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rangi |
Yep |
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magnuse |
jcamins: why not make JavaScript add "and broader headings"? |
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rangi |
And you can enforce those |
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magnuse |
and use the _() trick |
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rangi |
With tt comments |
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cait |
hm fallback without js might be nice |
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jcamins |
magnuse: then I'd have to add javascript. |
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cait |
like the other plugin |
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jcamins |
And have a template. |
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jcamins |
The suggestion plugins do not have any user interface of their own. |
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cait |
hm |
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jcamins |
I'l just run it through a template. |
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cait |
you got to get the text in a tt file somehow |
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cait |
or a js |
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rangi |
I think a simple .tt with the text in it |
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cait |
there are no more options |
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jcamins |
Load TT directly. |
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rangi |
You lose the picking the right language then |
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magnuse |
what is consuming the json? not js? |
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jcamins |
magnuse: Perl. |
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jcamins |
Well, sometimes js, sometimes Perl. |
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rangi |
Are you 100% sure a tt file with text and no html won't be translated cos I'm not |
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magnuse |
ah, sounds interesting :-) |
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jcamins |
rangi: no, not at all sure. |
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jcamins |
rangi: can I use C4::Template without it printing to stdout? |
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rangi |
Of course |
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* jcamins |
never had reason to try before. |
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rangi |
The print line in the scripts is what prints |
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rangi |
Nothing in the module does |
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magnuse |
good plan :-) |
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rangi |
There are even subs in output.pm to do correct headers |
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jcamins |
I'm using those, I think. |
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cait |
it gets translated - but it will look different |
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cait |
the problem with cart was that it required the line breaks |
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jcamins |
cait: it doesn't get displayed at all in the rendered form. |
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jcamins |
Or do you mean that the text won't show up the same in pootle? |
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cait |
if you have line breaks in the file |
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cait |
hey will be gone |
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cait |
in the translated templates |
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rangi |
the trick for that is |
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rangi |
use tt comments |
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rangi |
some stuuf |
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rangi |
[%# comment %] |
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rangi |
some stuff |
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rangi |
will preserve the line space im pretty sure |
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jcamins |
I have the opposite problem. |
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jcamins |
I need to make sure there is *no* whitespace. |
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rangi |
[% -%] |
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jcamins |
But I can do that with TT too. |
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rangi |
yep |
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jcamins |
Okay, I think I now have a clear enough picture of this. Where should the template go? |
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rangi |
somewhere under prog/en |
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rangi |
but it can be anywhere after that |
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jcamins |
No strong opinion? |
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jcamins |
prog/en/... guess I can't use util... |
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rangi |
text? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that text is pretty damn huge |
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jcamins |
Excellent! |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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rangi |
lol i think we should move that zebra biblios 3.8 thread thing to devel, with all the different pieces of advice, it's turning into a pile of conflicting madness for people to read :) |
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jcamins |
It sure is. |
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jcamins |
You did such a good on that puzzle, I have another one for you: |
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rangi |
heh |
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jcamins |
I want to have a sortable list of suggestion plugins, that people can enable or disable at will. |
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jcamins |
I can use sortable to great effect here. |
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cait |
hi eythian |
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jcamins |
But how should I store this configuration in the database? |
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cait |
well... include was the wrong answer, I am not trying again :) |
| 20:33 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
| 20:33 |
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jcamins |
There's no saying your next answer won't be right. |
| 20:33 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 20:33 |
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cait |
xml :P |
| 20:34 |
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jcamins |
Of course, there's nothing to say it won't be wrong, either. :P |
| 20:34 |
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cait |
pf. |
| 20:34 |
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cait |
hehe |
| 20:35 |
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cait |
now rangi can help you find the real solution |
| 20:36 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 20:36 |
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rangi |
does it serialise? |
| 20:36 |
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rangi |
whatever you store, will only be used by perl eh? it doesnt need to be human usable? |
| 20:36 |
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jcamins |
Well, I guess it'd be easy enough to just serialize the hash with Data::Dumper. |
| 20:37 |
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rangi |
or storable |
| 20:37 |
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wahanui |
somebody said storable was yellow and Graphics::Magick |
| 20:37 |
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jcamins |
Or storable. |
| 20:37 |
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wahanui |
storable is probably yellow and Graphics::Magick |
| 20:37 |
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rangi |
its already a dependency so no harm using it |
| 20:37 |
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jcamins |
I was thinking I needed a yellow module. |
| 20:38 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 20:39 |
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jcamins |
But does this mean that settings will be lost if someone upgrades their perl version? |
| 20:39 |
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rangi |
hmmm |
| 20:39 |
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rangi |
not sure |
| 20:40 |
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jcamins |
Looks like storable won't stick things in the database. |
| 20:57 |
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jcamins |
Should I create a new table just for this, or something a bit more general-purpose? |
| 21:00 |
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rangi |
hmm not sure |
| 21:10 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #152 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:28 |
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ibeardsl1e |
slightly off topic, but trying to make sure this reaches as many NZ devs as possible .. http://no.softwarepatents.org.nz/ |
| 21:28 |
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cjh |
ibeardslee: ty |
| 21:40 |
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halcyonCorsair |
can anyone confirm for me, the ubuntu packages for: http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/cb98ed |
| 21:40 |
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halcyonCorsair |
rangi: ? |
| 21:41 |
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rangi |
looking now |
| 21:42 |
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rangi |
ah they aren't in ubuntu proper yet i dont think, i think eythian has submitted them up into debian so they will get there soon, but you can use |
| 21:42 |
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rangi |
http://debian.koha-community.o[…]a/pool/main/libt/ |
| 21:42 |
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rangi |
etc |
| 21:43 |
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rangi |
actually Template::Plugin::HtmlToText |
| 21:43 |
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halcyonCorsair |
libtext-unaccent-perl, libdatetime-format-mysql-perl, and ? |
| 21:43 |
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rangi |
should be the only one not in ubuntu, the other 2 should be |
| 21:43 |
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rangi |
libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl |
| 21:43 |
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wahanui |
well, libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl is the exception, but it still hasn't been accepted to 3.6.x. |
| 21:43 |
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halcyonCorsair |
rangi: btw, http://lists.koha-community.or[…]-July/037783.html mentions an INSTALL.ubuntu.12.04 but I don't see it in git anywhere obvious |
| 21:44 |
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rangi |
http://debian.koha-community.o[…]-htmltotext-perl/ grab it from here, if it is int in ubuntu yet |
| 21:44 |
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wajasu |
anyone checked out http://bulknews.typepad.com/bl[…]/carton-talk.html (in japenses, but it might help with easier package dependecy management. (local perl iib, ... |
| 21:44 |
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rangi |
halcyonCorsair: im not sure if the patch has been pushed yet |
| 21:44 |
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halcyonCorsair |
ah right |
| 21:45 |
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halcyonCorsair |
rangi: in favour of htmltotext via package rather than cpan, yes? |
| 21:45 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 21:45 |
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rangi |
bug 8489 |
| 21:45 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8489 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Revised ubuntu-pkg-check.sh, renamed ubuntu package files, tweaked 12.04 package file, copied 12.04 package file to ubuntu.packages |
| 21:46 |
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rangi |
and bug 8478 |
| 21:46 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Update Ubuntu related files |
| 22:09 |
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halcyonCorsair |
rangi: is there keyserver I can get the key from? |
| 22:10 |
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rangi |
wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add - |
| 22:10 |
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rangi |
will get it for ya |
| 22:12 |
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rangi |
i think it might be eythians key lemme check |
| 22:12 |
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rangi |
yep it is |
| 22:16 |
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rangi |
A99CEB6D im pretty sure |
| 22:17 |
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halcyonCorsair |
rangi: I'm doing it via chef, so it's easier if I get it via a keyserver....but the default one seems to do the trick |
| 22:18 |
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halcyonCorsair |
rangi: koha is GPLv2, yes? |
| 22:18 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #152: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/152/ |
| 22:18 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* ruth: Bug 8012: default values for defaultSortField/defaultSortOrder NULL on install |
| 22:19 |
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jenkins_koha |
* ruth: Bug 8569: Paying for lost item overwrites nonpublic notes. |
| 22:19 |
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rangi |
or later |
| 22:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8012 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Stable , defaultSortOrder and OPACdefaultSortOrder are set to "ascending" on install |
| 22:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8569 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Stable , Paying for a lost item overwrites nonpublic notes |
| 22:19 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #153 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:19 |
|
rangi |
it has the or later clause |
| 22:19 |
|
halcyonCorsair |
right |
| 22:22 |
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jcamins |
halcyonCorsair: if you wanted to share your Koha recipes, I'm sure people would be grateful. :) |
| 22:22 |
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halcyonCorsair |
jcamins: once I get it to a usable state, I'll be happy to |
| 22:25 |
|
jcamins |
halcyonCorsair++ |
| 22:30 |
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halcyonCorsair |
oops...this vm only has 384m of ram allocated...installing mysql now won't end well |
| 22:35 |
|
rangi |
you can get it running in about 256 but its a tight squeeze |
| 22:35 |
|
rangi |
(koha that is) |
| 22:38 |
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jcamins |
Yeah... don't try that with Evergreen. |
| 22:40 |
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halcyonCorsair |
jcamins: what distro, etc do you use? |
| 22:40 |
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halcyonCorsair |
rangi: any idea re: percentages of install base on debian based vs fedora or whatever? |
| 22:41 |
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jcamins |
halcyonCorsair: Debian. |
| 22:41 |
|
jcamins |
One person uses Fedora. |
| 22:42 |
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jcamins |
Other than that, I think everyone uses Debian or Ubuntu. |
| 22:43 |
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rangi |
hmm lots of installs on fedora, all the libraries in the philiplines are fedora |
| 22:43 |
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rangi |
but only 1 developer i think |
| 22:44 |
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rangi |
it's hard to know |
| 22:50 |
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wajasu |
i'm still thinking about testing. functional/integration. is there something set up that allows me to write a test against a "test" database? Or are we just using some Mocking api? |
| 22:52 |
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rangi |
both |
| 22:53 |
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rangi |
you can right tests that work against the db with all the sample data installed |
| 22:53 |
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rangi |
or you can use DBD::Mock |
| 22:53 |
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wajasu |
is there an example test that you know of that does work against the DB? |
| 22:54 |
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wajasu |
are those the db_dependent ones/ |
| 22:55 |
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rangi |
yes |
| 22:55 |
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wajasu |
ok. |
| 22:56 |
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wajasu |
if i write tests, for esitsing code, how should i submit them? enhancement? low pri? |
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rangi |
there is a bug just for that |
| 23:01 |
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rangi |
bug 5327 |
| 23:01 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, bart.tj, Signed Off , Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
| 23:01 |
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rangi |
just attach them to that one, its the never closing bug :) |
| 23:01 |
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wajasu |
ok |
| 23:23 |
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jcamins_away |
Unless your test is overly ambitious, in which case create a new bug, so that bug 5327 isn't drowned in discussion. |
| 23:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, bart.tj, Signed Off , Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
| 23:27 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #153: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/153/ |
| 23:27 |
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jenkins_koha |
kathryn: Bug 7368: fixed subsribe typo |
| 23:27 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General staff client typo omnibus |
| 23:28 |
|
rangi |
hmm 5 fails on master now |
| 23:29 |
|
* rangi |
looks i think some are db issues |
| 23:31 |
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wajasu |
did that create_db / clean_db ever work? |
| 23:31 |
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rangi |
it did, but don't use it |
| 23:31 |
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rangi |
it no longer does |
| 23:32 |
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wajasu |
do we want to fix it? |
| 23:33 |
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rangi |
i don't |
| 23:33 |
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wajasu |
do we have any "transactional" code? begin trans, do work; rollback; ? |
| 23:33 |
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cjh |
heh |
| 23:33 |
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mtj |
hmm, whats the script called wajasu ? |
| 23:33 |
|
mtj |
and, hi #koha! :) |
| 23:34 |
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wajasu |
i was going to write some tests for overdure_notice.pl and letters,, etc but would like to go all the way to the db and verify what goes in, comes out. |
| 23:35 |
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wajasu |
persistence/repo tests. |
| 23:35 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #811 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 1 day ago) |
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