IRC log for #koha, 2011-01-28

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01:38 wasabi wow!, Koha independents in slot 3 and ByWater in slot 4
01:38 wasabi it indicates that independant Koha projects are going well…
01:39 * wasabi pats #koha on the shoulder
01:39 wasabi "good on ya, mate"
01:40 gmcharlt wasabi: just a pat on the shoulder?  a bear hug might be more like it :)
01:40 druthb :)
01:41 wasabi a beer hug and a beer
01:42 wasabi http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bier
01:43 wasabi both delicious! but one type much nicer to quaff
01:46 wasabi gmcharlt:  you should prolly grab kohacatalog.org/net before someone else beats you to it...
01:46 wasabi and a great idea too :)
01:48 gmcharlt wasabi: thanks for the thought, but kohacatalog.com is enough for us; if a bonafide .net or .org wants kohacatalog.org/.net (for Koha purposes, of course), they're welcome to it
01:48 wasabi would be a nice way to track koha installs, and people get a 'vanity' koha domain address, from kohacatalog.com , etc
01:49 gmcharlt heh
01:49 gmcharlt chris is entirely welcome to rm34.kohacatalog.com if he wants it :)
01:49 chris heh
01:50 wasabi or 'koha.org'  etc  - if other vendors felt as clueful as ESI does…
01:56 wasabi ha, that didnt actually come out quite right
02:01 wasabi … thats *after* the community gets koha.org back (of course)
02:03 wasabi for now - we good have calyx.kc.org redirecting to calyx.net.au, etc
02:05 wasabi to give a $vendor some kc.org authenticity, etc - just a thought....
02:05 wasabi oops s/good/could/
02:22 gmcharlt eh
02:22 gmcharlt if we hand out vanity k-c.org domains, I'd rather that libraries get them
02:22 gmcharlt vendors are more than capable of doing their own advertising, after all
02:32 Nate goodnight #koha!
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02:48 CIA-1 Koha: ian.walls new/bug_5376 * rv3.02.00-597-g12c1162 /tools/batchMod.pl: Bug 5376: Batch Mod and Delete require superlibrarian permissions
02:48 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5376 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW, Batch Edit and Delete need Superlibrarian Permissions
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03:22 wasabi gmcharlt++  yeah, your idea is better
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03:27 Amit heya all
03:27 Amit hi kmkale
03:28 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5376: Batch Mod and Delete require superlibrarian permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5659778012bcaf862>
03:29 hudsonbot Starting build 324 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:31 kmkale hi Amit
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03:56 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #324: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/324/
03:56 hudsonbot Ian Walls: Bug 5376: Batch Mod and Delete require superlibrarian permissions
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04:08 havergara hello
04:09 havergara anybody?
04:09 ibot anybody is, like, here
04:09 havergara hehe
04:09 havergara i would like to ask a few questions
04:09 pastebot "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "t/BackgroundJob.t gives make test errors" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/127
04:10 havergara i want to ask if how do i create my own marc21 framework...
04:10 havergara i want to ask if how do i create my own marc21 framework...
04:10 havergara i want to ask if how do i create my own marc21 framework...
04:10 havergara i want to ask if how do i create my own marc21 framework...
04:10 kmkale Can someone have a look at ^ ^ and guide me about whats causing these make test errors in t/BackgroundJob.t ??
04:10 kmkale bbl
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04:18 havergara i want to ask if how do i create my own marc21 framework...
04:28 havergara i want to ask if how do i create my own marc21 framework...
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04:34 wasabi havergara:  http://head.kohaaloha.com:8080[…]/koha/mainpage.plhttp://head.kohaaloha.com:8080[…]min/admin-home.plhttp://head.kohaaloha.com:8080[…]blio_framework.pl
04:34 wasabi click 'add new framework' ;)
04:37 havergara uhm sir wasabi, but how about if say for example,i want a certain tag appear in the catalogin page
04:38 havergara my case is,in creating my own framework i see a lot of tags...but if i go on the cataloging page, i see only a few
04:38 havergara so what i want now is that, i would like to specify a certain tag to appear...
04:39 wasabi pass, that is a complex area
04:39 havergara say for example, in my cataloging page, i dont see 090 tag,but in my MARC framework i see 099,how do i show that in cataloging page
04:39 wasabi experiment with the default framework
04:39 havergara :(
04:40 havergara i already did...no chance...
04:40 wasabi the opac catalog is generated with xslt
04:42 havergara which means?
04:43 wasabi you need to add an 099  block in your  opac/*.xsl files
04:43 havergara really?
04:44 wasabi 090 is defined ok, 099 is not
04:44 havergara uhm, where is this .xsl located?
04:44 havergara hope this will do my problem
04:45 wasabi mason@xen1:~/g/head/koha-tmpl$ find . -iname *xslt*
04:45 wasabi ./opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt
04:45 wasabi ./intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt
04:46 havergara i need to edit i think the file from intranet...
04:46 havergara will try this...ill feed back asap if it works
04:46 havergara tnx
04:46 wasabi see the '090' definition here….
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04:47 wasabi http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=ko[…]54a9a;hb=HEAD#l21
04:47 wasabi you need a similar defintion for your '099'
04:47 wasabi <xsl:variable name="biblionumber" select="marc:datafield[@tag=09​0]/marc:subfield[@code='a']"/>
04:48 wasabi something like that...
04:48 havergara can i just copy and paste then edit a tag there?
04:51 wasabi pass, worth a try ;p
04:51 havergara no?:(
04:51 havergara tnx though...:)
04:53 wasabi yeah, just paste a 099 line under the 090 in your UNIMARCslim2OPACDetail.xsl file
04:53 wasabi should work ok
04:53 havergara let me try..:D
04:54 havergara btw...which xsl file should i modify?
04:54 wasabi if you have a unimarc koha, and have 'opacxslt' sysprefs ON, etc
04:54 wasabi ok, i gotta scoot havergara, ciao and good luck
04:54 havergara whats the diff between unimarc and marc?
04:55 wasabi UNIMARCslim2OPACDetail.xsl
04:55 havergara aw..ok,tnx!
04:55 havergara :D
04:55 wasabi for the detail.pl page
04:55 wasabi unimarc is EU, marc21/usmarc is for USA
05:00 wasabi havergara:  for the *opac* detail.pl page :)
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06:08 snail evening all. where is the best place to propose new features?
06:11 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield?
06:11 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield?
06:11 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield?
06:11 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield?
06:11 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield?
06:11 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield?
06:12 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield?
06:13 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield?
06:14 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values?
06:14 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values?
06:14 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values?
06:14 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values?
06:14 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values?
06:14 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values?
06:34 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values?
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06:54 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values?
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07:37 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values?
07:38 paul_away is now known as paul
07:38 paul good morning #koha
07:43 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values?
07:43 havergara what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values?
07:45 snail morning paul
07:46 paul havergara, look at the online help [?] top right of the screen
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08:08 jransom evening all
08:13 Ropuch Good morning #koha
08:15 chris Wow
08:15 chris My scrollback is full of the same question again and again
08:16 chris My 4 year tries that approach, doesn't work for him either
08:18 jransom oh they eventually learn that no means no so long as no always means no.
08:21 snail chris: is the correct thing to do following our discussion this afternoon to create a new bug in the bug tracker describing feature, the usage scenario and planned implementation?
08:21 chris Exactly
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08:31 Ropuch Hello chris
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08:44 kmkale chris can you please give a hint on http://paste.koha-community.org/127
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08:48 kf good morning #koha
08:48 kmkale hi kf
08:51 kf hi kmkale
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08:54 kf guten morgen ivanc :)
08:55 ivanc guten morgen kf :)
08:55 ivanc hi #koha
08:59 jransom hiya Caitlin
09:00 kf hi jo
09:00 kf :)
09:08 jransom :)
09:18 paul good weekend kiwis ! jransom & chris & anyone else from NZ !
09:21 jransom hiya Paul
09:21 jransom http://blog.8bitlibrary.com/2011/01/20/firehero/ - this freakin awesome
09:21 jransom (a bit of friday night frivolity)
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09:26 kf hi paul
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09:26 paul_p hello kf
09:33 jransom good night all
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09:49 snail looking for feedback on: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5666
09:49 munin Bug 5666: enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, regexp edits to URL fields in bibliographic edit screens
10:10 kf snail: It sounds interesting - but I am the wrong person to talk about technical implementation :)
10:11 snail kf: thanks
10:13 paul_p chris, mail in your mailbox (in case you're not sleeping)
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10:56 cirbic hi friends
10:56 cirbic greetings from Almeria (Spain)
10:57 cirbic hello wasabi
10:57 cirbic nice to see you again
10:58 paul_p hi from Marseille (France), cirbic
10:58 kf hi from Konstanz (Germany) :)
10:59 cirbic hey kf!
10:59 cirbic nice to see you too
10:59 kf lunch break- will be back a bit later
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11:00 cirbic here where I work there are a lot of german people
11:00 cirbic the belongs to DLR
11:00 cirbic they belong to DLR
11:01 cirbic wasabi, I come back again with a framework issue
11:01 Amit heya cirbic
11:01 cirbic hello amit
11:01 cirbic yesterday we reinstalled again koha, and everything ok
11:02 cirbic now I´m more cautious :D
11:02 cirbic I created a new framework based on FASTT ADD framework
11:02 cirbic everything ok
11:03 cirbic but now probably I´ll need other tags so I modified the MARC structure and added these tags
11:03 cirbic but when I go to catalogue a new marc record and choose my owb framework, the new tags don´t appear
11:05 cirbic once I added the new tags to the framework
11:05 cirbic do I have to do anything else ??
11:12 cirbic here is where I work: http://www.psa.es
11:26 kf cirbic: did you add fields and subfields using administration > bibliographic MARC frameworks?
11:26 kf what is your value for the hidden field?
11:26 cirbic where is that value?
11:27 kf if you look at the subfield definition it's under more optiosn
11:30 cirbic I´ve just created a new Framework
11:30 cirbic using Fast Add
11:30 cirbic all ok
11:31 cirbic I´d like to add tag 520 SUMMARY
11:32 cirbic so I´ve to click in NEW TAG
11:32 cirbic I write 520 in TAG, in labels I write SUMMARY
11:33 cirbic It´s not repeatable and not mandatory
11:33 cirbic and save changes
11:33 cirbic now appears in the structure of the framework
11:34 cirbic but if I go to insert new record, the tag 520 doesn´t appear
11:42 cirbic hidden field is 0
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11:54 druthb good day, #koha
12:04 Nate morning druthb!
12:05 druthb hi, Nate.  :)  you're in early this morning!
12:07 kf bywater++
12:08 kf @karma bywater
12:08 munin kf: Karma for "bywater" has been increased 17 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 17.
12:08 druthb thanks, kf! :)
12:08 kf and good morning :)
12:09 Nate thank you kf!
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12:13 Brooke kia ora
12:13 druthb hi, Brooke! :)
12:13 kmkale hi Brooke
12:13 kmkale hi druthb
12:13 * druthb waves to kmkale
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12:16 nengard hiya
12:17 Amit heya nengard
12:17 Amit heya Brooke
12:17 nengard morning
12:17 * Brooke passes out mimosas to get everyone started out properly.
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12:28 * kf waves
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12:32 jcamins Good morning, #koha
12:33 kf hi jcamins
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12:36 Brooke morning
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12:41 jwagner morning, all
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13:01 kf morning jwagner
13:01 jwagner Hi kf
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13:26 Brooke @quote random
13:26 munin Brooke: Quote #55: "<jdavidb> Harrrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 12:38 PM, February 11, 2010)
13:28 paul_p 'morning USA Brooke & jwagner & jcamins & others
13:28 druthb @quote get 102
13:28 munin druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010)
13:28 paul_p oups, good morning argentina too
13:28 Brooke :)
13:29 paul_p @quote random
13:29 munin paul_p: Quote #108: "<owen> As Pee-wee said, Everyone I know has a big 'but'" (added by druthb at 03:20 PM, November 30, 2010)
13:29 Brooke hehehe
13:29 kmkale chris_n around?
13:29 chris_n om, phone
13:30 kmkale k
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13:31 chris_n hey kmkale
13:31 kmkale hi chris_n
13:31 Brooke hey sekjal
13:32 sekjal hi, Brooke!
13:32 kmkale just got your reply to "make test fails on BackgroundJob.t"
13:32 kmkale why is it in the master in t dir then?
13:33 chris_n probably just got overlooked in the mass test building which was occurring during the os academy last week
13:34 chris_n feel free to submit a patch to move it :)
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13:34 kmkale also in a fresh dev install I see a bunch of DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'kohadev.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /home/kk/kohaclone/blib/PER​L_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 480
13:34 kmkale for many other tests
13:35 * chris_n looks
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13:40 gmcharlt FYI - because of spam problems, I've set the Koha wiki to require a confirmed email address before you can edit pages
13:40 chris_n kmkale: still looking
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13:41 gmcharlt this change does affect users who already have accounts, so you'll need to confirm your email address
13:41 chris_n spam--
13:41 * Brooke keeps telling gmcharlt she's not *really* spam, she's just got a highly unfavourable signal to noise ratio.
13:41 gmcharlt by going to your user profile on the wiki, scrolling down until you see the confirm email address link
13:41 jcamins gmcharlt++ # because the spam is annoying
13:41 gmcharlt then have it send one
13:41 gmcharlt you'll then get an email with a link to confirm
13:42 gmcharlt and then you can go back to improving the S/N ratio
13:42 jcamins If there's no such link, does that mean that the e-mail has already been confirmed?
13:43 jwagner Looking at the code, the branch limiter in staff and OPAC advanced search seems to be searching the index named "branch" which seems to be homebranch (952$a). Can someone confirm that, and would you know any reason why it wouldn't find items that belong to a particular branch?
13:43 jwagner The item is searchable in other ways, such as title or item type.
13:44 kf jcamins: found it under my preferences
13:44 gmcharlt jcamins: if it's already confirmed, the preferences page for your account will say somethign to the effect of "Your e-mail address was authenticated on 28 January 2011 at 13:42."
13:44 kmkale chris_n i am pasting at paste.k-c
13:44 jcamins Yeah, I have that.
13:45 Brooke soooo
13:46 Brooke gmcharlt
13:46 ibot well, gmcharlt is it safe to point the website to koha-latest.tar.gz, the symlink will get updated as new versions come out?
13:46 Brooke if you can mess about like that
13:46 Brooke do you have the powah to import the damn infobox template thinger?
13:46 jcamins ibot: forget gmcharlt
13:46 ibot jcamins: I forgot gmcharlt
13:46 gmcharlt jcamins: heh - that sounds more aggresive than it actually is
13:47 jcamins ibot: gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology.
13:47 ibot OK, jcamins.
13:47 Brooke specifically infobox person
13:47 jcamins ibot: jcamins?
13:47 ibot i think jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas.
13:47 jcamins :)
13:47 pastebot "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "make test errors" (27 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/129
13:47 * owen hands jcamins a bucket of spare sysprefs
13:48 kf druthb?
13:48 ibot i heard druthb was the prettiest little lady north of the Potomac.
13:48 Brooke ha!
13:48 Brooke that stuck :D
13:48 kf :)
13:49 kmkale chris_n : http://paste.koha-community.org/129
13:50 * druthb pokes Brooke.
13:50 chris_n kmkale: looks ugly; afaik we should not be requiring any db population in the basic test suite
13:51 kmkale agree
13:51 kmkale also a bunch of "Use of uninitialized value..." & "Illegal date specified..." too
13:52 chris_n the Illegal date specified is expected
13:52 chris_n use of uninitialized value is annoying, but harmless
13:52 kmkale the make test wont pass till I edited t/BackgroundJob.t by changing the test number to 1
13:53 chris_n kmkale: you are safe to go ahead with your install, however
13:53 kmkale i know. already did
13:53 chris_n you can then do 'prove' after the db is populated to reverify
13:53 kmkale just wanted to bring it to attention
13:54 chris_n good idea, tnx
13:56 chris_n kmkale: I'll do some testing and generate some discussion a bit later today
13:56 kmkale thanks chris_n
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13:59 * Oak hugs Brooke
13:59 Oak \o
14:00 druthb o/
14:00 Oak http://abstrusegoose.com/336
14:11 druthb Nate++ #Ah has mah reasons.
14:13 owen What the heck is a MediaWiki "bureaucrat?"
14:13 Brooke it's in the wiki ;)
14:14 * owen expects correspondence from all such users to be supplied in triplicate
14:14 Brooke I suspect that it's in the kerfuffle regarding how an unseen hand guides wikipedia, but I don't put any stock into that sort of nonsense.
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14:22 kf starting weekend - bye all :)
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14:34 kmkale bye all. Good night
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14:48 * wizzyrea_ is still waiting on her envisionware executable
14:49 * wizzyrea_ gets out her stick.
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14:49 * chris_n hides
14:50 wizzyrea lol
14:51 jcamins Time to go learn about Russian pan-Eurasianism.
14:51 jcamins I'll be around this afternoon if anyone has any pressing questions about analytics. :)
14:52 jcamins TTFN, #koha
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14:58 wizzyrea gmcharlt: if you use openid to log into the wiki, do we still need to make changes?
14:58 gmcharlt wizzyrea: I suspect so, yes
14:58 wizzyrea k, ty
14:59 wizzyrea (and yes, I just found that to be true)
15:13 paul_p 1st spam removed on the wiki. throw the champaign :D
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15:22 gmcharlt @later tell Brooke got the infobox template working, now I just need to find the CSS to get it look good
15:22 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
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15:25 gmcharlt @later tell Brooke ok, Infobox_person is now all set up
15:25 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
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16:58 owen sekjal++ # for Bug 3881
16:58 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3881 blocker, P5, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED, No Page for Opac Privacy
16:59 sekjal Writing the detailed commit message right now
17:04 nengard :)
17:04 nengard awesomeness
17:07 jwagner what's the table (log) where cataloging actions get recorded?  I'm not seeing it.  I could be blind, of course....
17:07 wasabi action_logs
17:08 jwagner Thanks, looked there but didn't see what I wanted.  Guess what I want isn't there...
17:08 wasabi ah, np :)
17:09 * jwagner thinks Koha should read my mind
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17:12 * chris_n will put that module on the list next to the clone and time-expansion modules
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17:29 owen As if we needed another reason to be grateful we're not on Sourceforge anymore: http://sourceforge.net/apps/wo[…]et-attack-update/
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17:32 snail Mōrena
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18:09 chris_n anybody familiar with this: http://synergy-foss.org/
18:11 wizzyrea I think I tried this a couple of years ago
18:11 wizzyrea it did not work so well then, but it may work well now
18:12 owen Sounds interesting
18:15 sekjal hmmm.... that could be handy
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18:15 cait hi #koha
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19:27 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: Translation updates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2eb8719b776768b1f>
19:27 snail getting a fresh clone of koha from git onto ubuntu, I did a dev install, but there seem to be many perl libraries I don't have installed. is there a complete list of them somewhere in an easy-to-install form?
19:27 larsw chris_n, I used synergy quite a lot while I still lived in Finland and had both a desktop and a laptop
19:28 larsw chris_n, there were occasional minor hickups (e.g., copy-paste across machines sometimes works, sometimes not), but mostly it was fine, and much nicer than a hardware kvm
19:29 owen snail: Are you following the Ubuntu INSTALL file?
19:29 snail owen: thanks. i'd not seen that...
19:29 hudsonbot Starting build 92 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:30 wasabi http://git.koha-community.org/[…]TALL.ubuntu.lucid
19:30 wasabi line 69-ish....
19:46 snail owen: thanks. install going much better now I'm reading the instructions
19:48 owen Cool.
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19:56 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #92: SUCCESS in 27 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/92/
19:56 hudsonbot Fr?d?ric Demians: Translation updates
19:58 chris_n hudson is not utf-8 savvy
19:58 chris_n !hudson botsnack sugar-cookie
19:58 hudsonbot chris_n: yummy! how did you know that sugar-cookie is my favorite food?
19:59 snail !hudson botsnack utf8-understanding
19:59 hudsonbot snail: yummy! I just love utf8-understanding!
20:11 chris_n hudson?
20:11 ibot well, hudson is Koha's continuous integration server, http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/
20:16 cait ibot botsnack fasnetsküchle
20:16 ibot :)
20:17 * druthb wants a fasnetsküchle, too!
20:18 * jcamins offers druthb and cait some chocolate goo
20:18 cait goo?
20:18 cait thx :)
20:18 druthb take it.  jcamins is *brilliant*.  :)
20:18 * jcamins 's oven is broken... after forty-five minutes, the brownies weren't really baked, just safe to eat.
20:18 cait oh
20:18 jcamins At least, I think it's the oven.
20:18 jcamins That's my only explanation.
20:18 cait have you moved already?
20:19 jcamins Yup.
20:19 jcamins Friday.
20:19 jcamins That is, a week ago.
20:19 druthb fasnetsküchle looks a little like a beignet...a little square of dough, fried?
20:20 cait they can look different, but basically yes
20:20 cait I think most are with yeast dogh, fried and sugar on top
20:21 druthb yup.  very definitely like a beignet, then.
20:21 cait found an empty package in our tea kitchen today - was too late!
20:22 * jcamins wants to bake something successful.
20:23 cait new oven?
20:23 jcamins I don't think I'll be able to until I have an oven thermometer, though.
20:23 * druthb suggests those amazing cookies that you brought to California.  I will taste-test.  :D
20:23 jcamins First I have to confirm the oven is not working.
20:23 jcamins Then I will have to call the owner.
20:23 jcamins Then I will have to call the super.
20:23 jcamins Then I will probably have to call the repair company.
20:23 jcamins Then I will have to wait and wait and wait while they fail to show up.
20:24 jcamins Okay, silly question:
20:24 * owen has 3 oven thermometers for some reason, never uses any of them.
20:24 jcamins Create manual invoice vs. Create manual credit... you use the latter if you want to forgive a fine, correct?
20:26 owen The disadvantage to that is the operation isn't tied directly to the item
20:27 jcamins What's the "Barcode" input for, then
20:27 jcamins *?
20:27 cait hm, I think using the  waive from the pull down is probably safer
20:28 jcamins You mean under "Pay fines"?
20:28 owen I don't see a waive option under Pay fines
20:28 jcamins I've never used fines at all.
20:28 jcamins I see "Writeoff."
20:28 jcamins I think that should be two words, shouldn't it?
20:29 cait yep that one
20:29 owen Wikipedia says "write-off"
20:29 cait sorry, confused terms
20:29 jcamins owen: but that's a noun.
20:29 owen True
20:30 owen cait: I think we may need a "waive" option
20:30 cait what's the difference between write-off and waive?
20:30 jcamins I would think one would be needed.
20:30 cait and this hole module is ...
20:30 cait lots of translation problems :(
20:30 cait whole
20:31 jcamins If you write something off, you remove it from your accounts receivable, but the money is still owed to you.
20:31 cait so if you are going to work on something there... I would appreaciate if someone stopped saving english terms to the database
20:31 owen Honestly I don't know how the writeoff options is used.
20:31 jcamins If you waive the fee, you're not owed any money.
20:31 jcamins Neither do I, but that's the semantic difference between the two.
20:31 cait hm
20:31 cait perhaps interesting for reporting
20:32 jcamins cait: how will you know how to translate it if the module doesn't use Pootle?
20:32 cait if you forgive a fine because it was a mistake or delete the fine because you delete the patron and never expect it to be paid
20:32 cait ?
20:32 owen I notice you can't reverse a writeoff
20:32 cait sorry, jcamins
20:32 jcamins Two words.
20:32 cait i don't understand your question
20:32 cait theproblem is the accountine table
20:32 jcamins cait: you said the English shouldn't go into the database, and I'm asking how else you can translate it.
20:33 cait it has fine and string in there that get displayed in opac and staff
20:33 cait use the types
20:33 jcamins Oh, in the *Koha* database?
20:33 cait yep
20:33 jcamins That's _awful_.
20:33 jcamins I thought you meant in the translation database.
20:33 cait and you can't do anything about it because it's hardcoded
20:33 cait no
20:33 cait like fine when you have an overdue
20:33 cait it comes from the database and is added automatically, you can't avoid it
20:33 jcamins I was thinking "if the English isn't in the translation database, how will you know what to put in for the German?" ;)
20:36 owen anyone know what "account type", "notify id" and "level" are under "Pay fines" ?
20:36 * owen only uses fines when testing fines
20:36 cait they are not used  any longer
20:36 cait at least for notify id and level i am sure
20:36 cait leftovers from a former fines system
20:36 cait you can see those columns in the overdue reports too
20:37 cait there are also subroutines left for that - it looks like it would be more like what we need - but it's not working
20:37 cait I was thinking about removing them when I have some time
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20:40 owen jcamins: Notably, the create manual credit page offers "forgiven" as one of the options. That certainly suggests it's the correct usage.
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21:27 cait good night all
21:27 cait left #koha
21:27 * owen too
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21:28 Nate have a great weekend #koha!
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21:42 snail on ubuntu I'm getting version conflicts with libgd (the graphics library). is that used for anything but barcodes? can i safely ignore it?
21:42 jcamins snail: it's used for patron images, but you can ignore it.
21:43 snail jcamins: cool, thanks
21:43 wizzyrea libgd?
21:44 wizzyrea GD?
21:44 wizzyrea graphicsmagick?
21:44 ibot i think graphicsmagick is avaliable in package form for the following Operating Systems: Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, 1.3.5 in Sid and Ubuntu Lucid. Regarding the update message, all Koha functions still work even if you only have Version 1.1.11.
21:44 wizzyrea there we go
21:49 jcamins Cool! ssh -X works on a Mac.
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21:53 snail does anyone know of anyone in the koha community looking at SWORD? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWORD_%28Protocol%29
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23:29 pianohack konnichiwa
23:30 jcamins Greetings.
23:30 pianohack Hi jcamins, how's your friday going?
23:30 jcamins Not bad.
23:30 jcamins Wrestling with the manual searching issue.
23:33 jcamins And wondering why I can't just use a RewriteRule to make the URLs something like .../3-4-manual-en/patrons.html

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