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hi, owen. :) |
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heya owen |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5571 - tags as bulleted list too long <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]913c8a060dd05971f> |
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Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5571 - tags as bulleted list too long |
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Amit |
heya all |
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hello |
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ivanc |
hi #koha |
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paul_p |
hello all ! |
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Amit |
heya paul_p |
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paul_p |
hello amit |
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Amit |
hdl around |
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hdl |
Hi Amit |
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hdl |
Ho are you ? |
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hdl |
happy new year |
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Amit |
hi hdl happy new year |
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hdl |
I have just received the mockups. |
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Amit |
have u seen savitra mail |
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hdl |
I will see them. And we could arrange a meeting on friday. |
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hdl |
if you can |
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Amit |
hdl: i think monday is better |
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Amit |
if you can |
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hdl |
monday morning ? |
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hdl |
9h30 ? |
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Amit |
from your timing |
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Amit |
or indian timing |
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hdl |
8h30 UTC |
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Amit |
ok fine |
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Amit |
let me confirm with savitra i will inform u |
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hdl |
ok |
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hdl |
thanks |
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chris |
hdl and paul_p have you read http://blog.ecorrado.us/2010/12/31/ilsturnover/ ? |
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paul_p |
hi chris, thanks for the url. I haven't seen it yet though i've seen the lwc reports on twitter. BibLibre highly under-represented :\ |
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chris |
yeah, same with catalyst |
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chris |
which is fine, as long as people are aware of the fact its only a very small sample |
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chris |
the problem is mbreeding talks about it, as if it has some statistically value |
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chris |
i tried to make that point in my comments |
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paul_p |
chris: the problem with FLOSS is that it is hard to have reliable stats. that's a weakness [I think from a marketing pov] |
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Amit |
hdl: meeting confirm monday 8:30 UTC |
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chris |
paul_p: the truth is, the stats are unreliable for proprietary too |
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chris |
they just dont worry as much about lying as we do |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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hdl |
hi cait |
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hdl |
Anyone using advance_notices.pl ? |
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cait |
hi hdl |
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cait |
yeah I think we use it |
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cait |
to send pre due and due messages |
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hdl |
Is it working ok for you ? |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
we only use the digest |
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cait |
with <<count>> |
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cait |
you have 5 items due today... I think there is no possibility to list them in the digest |
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cait |
and not using the digest means sending one notice for each item |
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hdl |
It is so close to overdue_notices that it should have shared code |
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hdl |
(And actually, code was copy paste edit of previous overdue_notices.pl) |
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cait |
I think a lot of overdue notices should be in c4 anyway |
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cait |
I talked to chris about it some time ago |
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cait |
we need to make some changes to overdues, it's on my dev list. but overdue_notices.pl is about 13 pages if you print it |
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hdl |
just as any script in Koha |
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cait |
yeah, just saying it's a bit scary for me :) |
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bye |
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nengard |
oh cool - that happens everytime I do a commit? :) |
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jcamins |
Yep. |
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jcamins |
chris++ |
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owen |
Hi #koha |
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Nicole C. Engard: update fines warning image per new patch |
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nengard |
hiya owen |
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druthb |
hi, owen! :) |
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jcamins |
Good morning, owen and druthb. |
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druthb |
hi, jcamins! :D |
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waves to Nate. |
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Nate |
Hiya! |
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squints and waves |
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Nate |
Im in a plane!!! |
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owen |
Prize to the first person to submit a patch from a plane |
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owen: does doing that last year count? |
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owen |
Yes |
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gmcharlt |
heh - I know I did patch-pushing from a plane once or twice; not sure if I actually submitted a new patch while in flight |
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will have to consult the judges |
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watches for the instant replay. |
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magnus |
good evening, #koha |
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jwagner |
Hi magnus |
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magnus |
hiya jwagner ;-) |
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magnus |
@wunder bodo, norway |
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magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -5.0�C (3:50 PM CET on January 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling). |
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jwagner |
@later tell nengard The github site apparently had a server down. Our public repo address seems to have changed to https://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PTFS -- I'm leaving on travel & won't have time to update the bugzilla entries until I get back. |
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munin |
jwagner: The operation succeeded. |
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nengard |
3 more tutorial videos in the can :) |
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nengard |
jwagner when you update those bugzilla reports, just attach the patch, it's more likely to get someone to look at it and sign off on it if they don't have to hunt down the patch in a repo |
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jwagner |
When I get back, and when I have some of that mythical free time :-( |
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sekjal |
jwagner: I'm actually working on a rebase of one the Harley branches right now, for bug 4329 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4329 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, OPAC search by shelving location option |
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jwagner |
I've been meaning to update the integration page at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]HarleyIntegration -- I know some things have been updated or pushed |
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sekjal |
I'll get that patch attached to the bug report once it's complete; save you one, at least |
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nengard |
owen around? |
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owen |
Yes |
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jwagner |
sekjal and anyone else, if you would update the wiki page when you do one, that would help keep track of things. Thanks |
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jwagner |
Gotta go catch a plane now.... |
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nengard |
signed off on bug 3347 after i fixed a whitespace error, but i'm not sure i did it right |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3347 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Inconsistencies with tables in opac-shelves.tmpl |
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sekjal |
jwagner: gotcha |
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nengard |
my git repo now says i have uncommited changes ... but when i look at the signed off patch the whitespace is gone ... ideas? |
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jcamins |
nengard: git diff |
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jcamins |
nengard: git status, rather |
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nengard |
jcamins, i know what the difference is and what the status is - but what step did i miss - I committed my changes with an --amend |
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nengard |
and signed off |
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nengard |
but for some reason git doesn't think i did that ... so i skipped a step |
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jcamins |
Hm. You can git add and git commit --amend as many times as you want. |
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nengard |
i forgot git add!!!! |
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nengard |
:) |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that might be why. |
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nengard |
sending again |
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nengard |
thanks |
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nengard |
ps i like the lists changes owen |
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owen |
Thanks! |
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nengard |
i like seeing patches from you - cause i can pretty much sign off on any of them - cause i know how to test them |
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owen |
I resubmitted a few today that failed to merge when I was rebasing yesterday |
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sekjal |
okay, I've got a rebased version of PTFS's 'opac search by location code', but it just applies universally; there is no sys pref to toggle it. It also only applies to the OPAC adv search |
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sekjal |
I think I may need to do a followup |
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owen |
sekjal: Any luck with the AND vs. OR problem I commented on? |
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sekjal |
not yet... but I'll take a further look in my followup |
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drotsk |
o/ |
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magnus |
\o |
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nengard |
sekjal i signed off on that patch |
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nengard |
owen i'm off to check on the others you submitted to sign off on them if possible :) |
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owen |
nengard++ |
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wizzyrea |
owen, question about autocomplete |
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wizzyrea |
(browser autocomplete) |
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wizzyrea |
(not js autocomplete) |
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wizzyrea |
so we've had instances in our libraries where due to latency somewhere, the barcode scanned autocompletes and a different item or different patron is brought up |
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wizzyrea |
browser autocompletes |
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wizzyrea |
I'm wondering about the merits of putting autocomplete="off" on those fields most likely to generate this issue |
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owen |
Change your browser configuration instead |
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ibot |
owen: that doesn't look right |
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wizzyrea |
we've done that. |
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wizzyrea |
but they update their firefox and we have to do it all over again |
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owen |
Oh, am I the last the learn this? http://bywatersolutions.com/?p=883 |
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owen |
Congratulations jcamins ! |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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jcamins |
owen: probably not, given how quickly you saw the press release. |
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owen |
bywater++ |
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* owen |
thought maybe #koha had the inside story |
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jcamins |
Well, brendan, Nate, nengard, and sekjal knew. |
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druthb |
congrats, jcamins! :) |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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hdl |
congrats jcamins |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins++ |
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gmcharlt |
bywater++ |
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nengard |
we're super happy to have jcamins!! :) |
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Nate |
Yes we are!! |
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sekjal |
most thoroughly yes |
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jcamins |
They say that now... |
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druthb |
hehe |
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hdl |
sekjal: Nate druthb gmcharlt Happy New Year |
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sekjal |
and Happy New Year to you, hdl! |
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hdl |
sekjal: Have you been able to do anything on data persistance ? |
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sekjal |
no, this holiday season has been pretty packed, and I've been working on other devs for some of our clients |
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druthb |
thanks, hdl! bonne année to you, as well. |
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magnus |
wow, congrats jcamins and bywater! |
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owen |
sekjal++ # for working on some devs for us! |
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hdl |
Have you read what I wrote on koha-devel ? What do you think of it ? |
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sekjal |
I've noticed the issues in the CanBook/Item... functions |
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sekjal |
and they seem to be called just about everywhere |
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nengard |
owen, signed off on a couple of your patches and fixes whitespace errors (I think) :) |
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sekjal |
the CanBookBe... subroutines should just be a composite of all return values of the CanItemBe... subroutines for every attached item |
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owen |
hdl: I'm looking at PTFS's suggested changes for Bug 3719 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3719 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Create syspref to allow sites to rename OPAC Cart |
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owen |
Among them are lines like this: |
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owen |
var MSG_RECORD_IN_BASKET = _("This item is already in your <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="opacbookbagName" -->"); |
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owen |
Is it valid to put the TMPL_VAR inside the _() function? |
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images that kind of construction is bad for many languages |
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hdl |
owen: you are right. |
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hdl |
get TMPL_VAR out of that. |
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owen |
But even if I change it to var MSG_RECORD_IN_BASKET = _("This item is already in your ')+<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="opacbookbagName" -->; it is too rigid a sentence structure isn't it? |
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sekjal |
owen: it is a bit restrictive |
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owen |
_("Your")+" "+<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="opacbookbagName" -->+" "+"_("is currently empty"); is even worse |
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hdl |
<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="opacbookbagName" -->+" "+"_("is currently empty") |
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hdl |
what do you think of that ? |
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hdl |
<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="opacbookbagName" -->+" "+"_("empty") |
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hdl |
congrats jcamins |
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jcamins |
hdl: thanks. |
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hdl |
congrats bywatersolutions |
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owen |
hdl: That works for that particular case, but I still think we're left with constructions that don't translate well |
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owen |
I suppose there must be many existing examples of that anyway |
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* owen |
should have this conversation when cait is here |
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hdl |
owen: sure... hebrew and arabic have a very different way to structure things. |
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hdl |
But there are already many examples of that. |
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paul_p |
congrats jcamins ! |
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chris_n |
congrats jcamins && bywater |
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jcamins |
Thanks. :) |
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jcamins |
Food... yes, I like this idea. |
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hdl |
jcamins_a: sending you a cookie |
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jcamins_a |
:) |
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jcamins_a |
I think I'll try pizza again. |
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jcamins_a |
Yesterday's attempt was unsuccessful, but I'll use it as a starter today, and I have high hopes that it won't be a complete disaster. |
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magnus |
re bug 5576 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5576 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Access Koha via SSL |
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magnus |
isn't that more a question of server config than a question of koha features? |
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sekjal |
magnus: yes, it is |
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sekjal |
you have to run the OPAC over SSL with Apache configs |
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sekjal |
but, I've development that, if you've got a parallel OPAC running over https, will allow you to toggle whether to use that site for OPAC login |
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magnus |
ah, i see - that sounds cool! |
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magnus |
and perhaps someone could document the config for e.g. apache somewhere too? |
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sekjal |
it's pretty easy to do the staff client over https, but since you want to have parts of the OPAC secure and parts free (presumably), there needs to be some mechanism in the coding |
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sekjal |
magnus: I'll see where I can drop that into the commit |
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magnus |
cool! but perhaps it could be on the wiki or in the manual too? |
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sekjal |
yes, that would make more sense |
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jcamins_a |
Does OSS have a browsable git repository? |
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sekjal |
not seeing a GitWeb instance |
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jcamins_a |
Bleck. |
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chris |
jcamins: drop them a mail, if they can't set one up we can set up one one git.koha-community they can push to |
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magnus |
meeting in 3 hours 40 mins? |
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chris |
Yes |
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chris |
Jwagner++ #for doing her action point and sending a reminder |
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chris |
Hi cait |
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cait |
hi chris :) |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -2.0�C (7:00 PM CET on January 05, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
the meeting is in 3.5 hours? |
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cait |
jcamins++ :) |
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magnus |
hi cait - and yes, 3.5 hours (i asked the same thing only seconds before you joined ;-) |
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cait |
hi magnus :) |
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* cait |
is finally back home |
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owen |
Meeting starts just after I have to leave to pick up kids :( |
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chris |
Muggy again today |
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chris |
@wunder wellington nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
but much warmer than here |
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cait |
@wunder Reutlingen |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is -2.4�C (7:44 PM CET on January 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 28.23 in 955.9 hPa (Steady). |
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nengard |
@wunder 19030 |
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munin |
nengard: The current temperature in CWOP # AR939, Penndel, Pennsylvania is 3.9�C (1:44 PM EST on January 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady). |
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magnus |
@wunder bodo, norway |
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munin |
magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0�C (6:50 PM CET on January 05, 2011). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -16.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Falling). |
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* druthb |
shivers |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11375 |
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munin |
jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 4.8�C (1:46 PM EST on January 05, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Falling). |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11105 |
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munin |
jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 3.7�C (1:50 PM EST on January 05, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Falling). |
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jcamins |
:D It's nicer in Forest Hills. |
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cait |
we had -11 last night |
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cait |
brr |
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jcamins |
Not only will our apartment be nicer, the weather is nicer. I like that. |
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chris |
I've been to astoria oregon |
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chris |
It was nice |
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jcamins |
Astoria, Oregon actually had a medal struck in 2009 commemorating its founding. |
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chris |
Cept for all the goonies |
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sekjal |
and those dang Kindergarten Cops.... |
| 18:50 |
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chris |
Oh sweet queen of the whole universe is coming soon |
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druthb |
a two *terabyte* SATA drive for $100? dang.... |
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jcamins |
What? |
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druthb |
Microcenter ad in the mail today. |
| 18:51 |
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jcamins |
Did those three statements have anything to do with each other? |
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druthb |
nope. |
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* druthb |
is off in her own little world, as usual. |
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chris |
http://www.queenwholeuniverse.[…]show%20dates.html |
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* cait |
waves to druthb |
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chris |
Best paegent ever |
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* sekjal |
has another couple bays.... could add another 2TB.... hmm.... |
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* druthb |
waves to cait. |
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chris |
Brb |
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wizzyrea |
wow, this channel just went down the rabbit hold |
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wizzyrea |
hole even |
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wizzyrea |
2 tb for 100 bucks |
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wizzyrea |
insanity |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: didn't you just get a 2TB drive? |
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druthb |
http://www.microcenter.com/sin[…]roduct_id=0331601 |
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wizzyrea |
1tb, 56 bucks |
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chris |
back |
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chris |
oh and a cafe across the road that sells peoples coffee just opened, good day |
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magnus |
how does that work? you walk in with your coffee and then they sell it to someone else? ;-) |
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* owen |
guesses http://peoplescoffee.co.nz/ |
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gmcharlt |
magnus: instant recycling! |
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chris |
thats its owen |
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magnus |
ah, i see ;-) |
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chris |
its cool, they visit where the beans are grown, make sure the growers are treated well etc |
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jcamins |
magnus: sounds like they don't steal coffee after all. |
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chris |
http://peoplescoffee.co.nz/our-people/ they are nice people, yeah, and unlike starbucks they dont steal coffee :) |
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magnus |
guess it was just the lack of capitalization playing tricks with my imagination... ;-) |
| 19:19 |
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sekjal |
for bug 5576, better to put the preference administration in the Admin section, or the OPAC section? |
| 19:19 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5576 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Access Koha via SSL |
| 19:20 |
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chris |
is it just for the OPAC, or for both sites? |
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sekjal |
just OPAC |
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chris |
if just for the OPAC id put it in there |
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sekjal |
ok |
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gmcharlt |
sekjal: you may want to take a look at how Evergreen handles using SSL for patron login and display in the OPAC and regular HTTP for everything else |
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sekjal |
gmcharlt: thanks, I'll take a peek |
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chris |
id like that once you are logged in, its ssl, before you are logged in its http |
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chris |
once you are placing holds etc, that may as well be encrypted too |
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chris |
make the fbi earn their money |
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gmcharlt |
or move some of the scripts about (to make URL rewriting easier) and have /opac/ and /opac/secure/ |
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pastebot |
"gmcharlt" at 68.101.78.67 pasted "sekjal: the relevant bit from EG's Apache config" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/118 |
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gmcharlt |
one thing to note that SSLRequireSSL implies use of mod_ssl; mod_gnutls doesn't have a direct equivalent |
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sekjal |
thanks, gmcharlt |
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magnus |
i'm trying to do a character conversion in marcedit but it fails silently on some files - is there a better way to debug than to chop the failing files in half recursively to find the offending record(s)? |
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gmcharlt |
magnus: I gather that marcedit isn't producing partial output that would give you a hint? |
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magnus |
no |
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magnus |
no output at all, that i can see |
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briceSanc |
Hello all ! Happy new year ! |
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cait |
happy new year briceSanc |
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chris |
hi briceSanc |
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briceSanc |
i've a problem with my Koha, i can't finish an update from git |
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owen |
briceSanc: Can you give us more information? |
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briceSanc |
yes, the installer runs in loop |
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briceSanc |
when i "update your database" ( /cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl?step=3 ) |
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briceSanc |
he write "Continue to log in to Koha" ( /cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl?step=3&op=updatestructure ) |
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briceSanc |
but when i click on "Continue to log in to Koha", he returns to /cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl?step=3 |
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sekjal |
is the "update your database" portion returning errors? when you click to upgrade, what is the output? |
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briceSanc |
he returns "Everything went OK, update done." |
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briceSanc |
Do you know what is the problem ? |
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ibot |
somebody said the problem was probably with the email header |
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owen |
Hush ibot |
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nengard |
hehe |
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sekjal |
he means well.... |
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jcamins |
ibot: forget the problem |
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ibot |
jcamins: I forgot problem |
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owen |
if only it were so easy... |
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owen |
ibot: Throw all your cares away |
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ibot |
owen: i'm not following you... |
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jcamins |
We're not going to get hauled away for bot baiting, are we? |
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briceSanc |
Any idea for my problem ? |
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mib_7x2wy |
hello everyone |
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mib_7x2wy |
could someone explain what might cause this to occur? http://i51.tinypic.com/2rr001s.png |
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chris |
hi mib_7x2wy, might want to do a /nick something_legible ;) |
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owen |
lac: Right click on that broken image, choose "Copy image location" and paste here |
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owen |
Please :) |
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chris |
is that the error, or are you talking about having 2 ghost items? |
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lac |
http://i51.tinypic.com/2rr001s.png |
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lac |
oh dear.. |
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lac |
chris: i'm talking about having 2 ghost items |
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chris |
right |
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chris |
if you go to edit items, does it show 1 there, or 3? |
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* owen |
goes back to peeling potatoes |
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chris |
and is that marc you have in marcedit the result of saving that record as marc, and opening it in marc edit? |
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lac |
chris: 3 |
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chris |
and if you choose to save it as marc (on the right hand side) and open it in marcedit, does it have 3 952? |
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lac |
chris: correct, i used a perl script to generate the marc file and opened it using koha |
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chris |
the problem is |
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chris |
you have 3 952 |
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chris |
instead of 1 952, with an a b and p |
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lac |
ah i see |
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chris |
so koha makes 3 items |
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chris |
might have to tweak your perl script |
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lac |
i guess i didn't fully understand MARC::Field |
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* chris_n |
hands his potatoes to owen |
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chris |
yeah you want 1 field, with 3 subfields .. in that records case anyway |
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* chris |
hopes that makes sense, little about MARC does |
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owen |
cait still around? |
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cait |
yes :) |
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owen |
Hi cait, I was pondering translation issues earlier and wanted your opinion |
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lac |
chris: indeed |
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cait |
ok |
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hdl |
@later tell briceSanc your problem surely comes from a DBversion badly set in updatedatabase.pl or the version in kohaversion.pl which is over the latest version in updatedatabase.pl |
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munin |
hdl: The operation succeeded. |
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owen |
cait: the patch for Bug 3719 introduces some weird template constructions that concerned me with regard to translation |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3719 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Create syspref to allow sites to rename OPAC Cart |
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owen |
var MSG_RECORD_IN_BASKET = _("This item is already in your")+" <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="opacbookbagName" -->"; |
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briceSanc |
hdl, thaks i will check that ! |
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owen |
cait: Doesn't that kind of construction work badly in German, for instance? |
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cait |
checking now - give me a minute :) |
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cait |
this construction works - but not sure about other languages |
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cait |
in general chopped sentences are never good |
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cait |
the borrower edit form does that a lot - sometimes there is really no way for a good translation this way |
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owen |
Okay. I was just curious. I've updated PTFS's work on bug 3719 and pushed it to my gitorious repo if anyone is interested in testing it |
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cait |
owen: meaning I could translate that sentence to make sense - but it's harder |
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chris |
i guess ptfs are too busy with kegs to keep their repo up to date |
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cait |
you have them in different parts in pootle, have to figure out which parts belong together... and sometimes you don't have a chance to make it sound right |
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cait |
kegs? |
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chris |
oh yes i did |
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jcamins |
:) |
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* cait |
checks her dictionary |
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chris |
LibLime will also be throwing a LibLime Koha Keg Party in the booth on Saturday January 8th. Stop by the booth to learn more. |
| 20:22 |
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jcamins |
cait: barrels used to hold beer, whisky, and certain other liquors. |
| 20:22 |
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owen |
Don't worry chris any day now they're going to do a rebase on that Harley stuff and let us know how it goes. |
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chris |
:) |
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cait |
thx jcamins :) |
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nengard |
what's all this keg talk? |
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cait |
owen: thx for thinking about translation :) and your concern is correct. but there seems to be no other way to make this pref work...? |
| 20:24 |
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cait |
teach people how to use jquery of course |
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cait |
does jquery work for the javascript alerts? |
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owen |
It's not a trivial amount of javascript but I think it has been done |
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owen |
In principle I like the idea of making it a system preference |
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cait |
yeah me too - but it makes things more difficult |
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cait |
I think german grammar is not so far away from english sentence structure - but other languages are |
| 20:26 |
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owen |
I certainly don't mind the work getting rejected if the translation issues are too onerous |
| 20:26 |
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cait |
would not work in japanese - the verb is always at the end of the sentence (just an example) |
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cait |
it's hard to tell |
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cait |
people could always use a customized translation too... but not as easy as a syspref |
| 20:28 |
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cait |
ok, time to unpack a bit more :) |
| 20:28 |
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owen |
That seems to be an option Liblime/PTFS refuses to entertain |
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briceSanc |
hdl, munin, updatedatabase.pl version is equal to the kohaversion.pl version |
| 20:28 |
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briceSanc |
but in mysql Version = 3.0201003 in systempreferences |
| 20:29 |
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chris |
ill defer to fredericd as translation manager, but if he says its too hard to translate im happy to reject it |
| 20:29 |
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hdl |
briceSanc: is it < than your kohaversion ? |
| 20:29 |
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chris |
and yes, they could just use the translation tool, you only need to translate one line |
| 20:29 |
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chris |
not the whole file, just the one you want different |
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briceSanc |
hdl, my Koha is on 3.2.x head of git |
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briceSanc |
i've made a git pull today |
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hdl |
seems that there is a problem in the update. |
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briceSanc |
hdl, probably... |
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hdl |
have you tried to launch the updatedatabase via commandline script |
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briceSanc |
hdl, i try |
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briceSanc |
koha preprod:~/kohagit/installer/data/mysql$ ./updatedatabase.pl |
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briceSanc |
Upgrade to 3.02.02.000 done (Incrementing version for 3.2.2 release.) |
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briceSanc |
Upgrade to 3.02.02.001 done (Fix misspelled 034r subfield in MARC21 Frameworks) |
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hdl |
is it ok now ? |
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briceSanc |
now when i click on "Continue to log in to Koha", i go to the staff interface |
| 20:38 |
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briceSanc |
but the installer stay active |
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briceSanc |
oh it's weird, the installer disappear after multi-reload |
| 20:39 |
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briceSanc |
i seems to be ok... i verify |
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hdl |
yes... 3.02.02.001 > 3.02.01.003 |
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hdl |
briceSanc: are you using memcached ? |
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hdl |
briceSanc: are you using modperl ? |
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briceSanc |
hdl, memcached is off but modperl is on |
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wizzyrea |
graphicsmagick? |
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ibot |
i guess graphicsmagick is avaliable in package form for the following Operating Systems: Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, 1.3.5 in Sid and Ubuntu Lucid. Regarding the update message, all Koha functions still work even if you only have Version 1.1.11. |
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briceSanc |
hdl, thanks for your help ! |
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munin |
New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 3347 - Inconsistencies with tables in opac-shelves.tmpl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]11c02d05485eabdab> |
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hudsonbot |
Starting build 263 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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wizzyrea |
anyone know, in the label maker does the search look in the indexes or the db directly |
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owen |
anyone have some good sql up their sleeve for finding the most reserved item of the year? |
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druthb |
item, or title? |
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owen |
title |
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owen |
Can you do a 'group by' across two tables? |
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druthb |
might try to do some kind of select biblionumber,count(*) foolery with old_reserves? Should be a way to look for a maximal number. |
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owen |
I guess I could do it the hard way and look at reserves and old_reserves separately |
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druthb |
hrm. |
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chris |
you can do a union |
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chris |
then group by |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_Master build #263: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/263/ |
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hudsonbot |
Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3347 - Inconsistencies with tables in opac-shelves.tmpl |
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owen |
According to my query of just old_reserves, the most-reserved biblionumber of 2010 was NULL :| |
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briceSanc |
goodbye! |
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chris |
select count(*) as total,biblionumber FROM (select * from reserves union select * from old_reserves) as union_table group by biblionumber order by total desc limit 5; |
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wizzyrea |
oooooo |
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wizzyrea |
that's a good one chris |
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jcamins |
Half hour to the meeting? |
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chris |
yup |
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jcamins |
Just enough time to get some empty boxes then. |
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jcamins |
See you all in twenty. |
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owen |
The winner (after NULL) is Eclipse by Stephenie Meyer |
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wizzyrea |
oo, shocker |
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owen |
chris++ |
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wizzyrea |
chris++ indeed |
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wizzyrea |
i'm running ours now :) |
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chris |
you'll probably break cataloguing doing that or somethink |
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chris |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
nah, it's on the replica |
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chris |
since when has logic got anything to do with it? |
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owen |
Meyer takes 4 of the top 5 |
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chris |
i fear for us all |
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owen |
Whoops, forgot to limit to 2010. |
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wizzyrea |
haha ours was Breaking Dawn |
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owen |
Janet Evanovich's Sizzling Sixteen wins for 2010. Is that an improvement? |
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chris |
does it have vampires? |
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cait |
hehe |
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owen |
Women bounty hunters > Vampires? |
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wizzyrea |
heh |
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chris |
yes |
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owen |
I see a good mashup there |
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chris |
but so does a poke in the eye with a sharp stick |
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owen |
Oh wait, that was Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
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chris |
its not a high bar |
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owen |
gotta go, all, sorry to miss the meeting |
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chris |
he will be sorry alright, when i assign action points to him |
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wizzyrea |
magnus: re your latest patch, which i think is great, maybe we should add also dev install examples |
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wizzyrea |
(similar to what was there before, but not specific to a particular company like the old ones were ) |
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magnus |
wizzyrea: probably a good idea! |
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will do that tomorrow, if you'd like |
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magnus |
wizzyrea: please do! |
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wizzyrea |
k :) |
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cait |
wizzyrea++ |
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cait |
and magnus++ :) |
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Brooke |
kia ora |
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cait |
hi Brooke |
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hdl |
kia ora Brooke |
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magnus |
kia ora, daniel and Brooke |
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daniel |
kia ora, magnus and everyone |
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daniel |
congratulations, jcamins! |
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Lee |
hey Daniel |
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Lee |
Happy New Year |
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* Brooke |
waves at lee |
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Lee |
hey Brooke |
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Lee |
Hey to you too Magnus |
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Lee |
we are meeting right? |
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magnus |
hiya Lee! starting to dry up? |
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cait |
hi Lee and Daniel - happy new year! |
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magnus |
Lee: yup |
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hdl |
hi Lee and Daniel |
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hdl |
Happy New Year |
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Lee |
We are all dry... now we have to paint and carpet |
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daniel |
Hi Lee, cait, hdl! |
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Lee |
another 60 days til be open the main branch |
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hdl |
too bad. |
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daniel |
hi Brooke! |
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magnus |
yeah, that sucks |
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hdl |
hi Colin |
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daniel |
Lee, did you loose materials |
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daniel |
? |
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Lee |
could've been worse...only lost 200 books |
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Colin |
Hi |
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daniel |
did I miss anyone pointing to http://computerworld.co.nz/new[…]urce-alternative? |
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gregg |
so, is this the place and time for the meeting? |
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gregglind |
my clock-reading and utc skills are a bit rusty |
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nengard |
hi gregg! |
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nengard |
you're in the right place |
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nengard |
just waiting for our fearless leader to start the proceedings |
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magnus |
and the right time |
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gregglind |
excellent, I will shut up then, unless we do intros or somethign |
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chris |
#startmeeting |
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munin |
Meeting started Wed Jan 5 22:01:25 2011 UTC. The chair is chris. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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munin |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
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chris |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions |
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chris |
chris cormack, catalyst, RM 3.4 |
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* nengard |
= Nicole C. Engard, Documenation Manager/ByWater Solutions |
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* magnus |
= Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway |
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* hdl |
Henri-Damien LAURENT, BibLibre, RMaint 3.0 |
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thd |
Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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richard |
richard anderson, katipo |
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* cait |
= Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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rhcl |
RHCL = Rolling Hills Consolidated Library, Greg Lawson |
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Colin |
Colin Campbell, PTFS Europe Ltd |
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Lee |
Lee Phillips Butte Public Library Montana USA |
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* sekjal |
= Ian Walls, ByWater Solutions |
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daniel |
Daniel Grobani, Samuel Merritt University, Oakland, CA |
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* wizzyrea |
liz rea, nekls |
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reed |
Reed Wade. Catalyst |
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gregglind |
gregg lind , Renesys, remote in minneapolis, (python, js) other mathy stuff |
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slef |
MJ Ray, worker-owner, software.coop UK and elsewhere |
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chris |
@seen chris_n |
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munin |
chris: chris_n was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 44 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: * chris_n hands his potatoes to owen |
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ricardo |
Ricardo Dias Marques, author of installation guide of Koha 3.0 in openSUSE 11.0 and contributor/approver to Portuguese (pt-PT) translation, Portugal |
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chris |
first item on the agenda was to be 3.2 update, ill shelve that for now in the hope chris_n gets back before the meeting ends |
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chris |
ok, lets move on, anyone who hasnt introduced themselves, feel free to do so at anytime |
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chris |
#topic Update on 3.0 |
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Topic for #koha is now Update on 3.0 |
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chris |
hdl: over to you |
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hdl |
I am desperately late. |
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hdl |
An congratulates chris n for being on time |
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hdl |
But am still willing to release the last 3.0.7 |
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ricardo |
hdl++ :) |
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chris |
do you have a date in mind for that? and that will be the end of life release for 3.0.x eh? |
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hdl |
Yes. |
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chris |
#action hdl to release 3.0.7 and post and end of life announcement |
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hdl |
But there should be some barckporting of 3.0 bugfixes and features over 3.2 |
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hdl |
Since there have been some improvements there. |
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hdl |
For overdues. |
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chris |
#idea we should backport features from 3.0.x to master and then to 3.2.x where applicable |
| 22:09 |
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chris |
or forward port as the case may be :) |
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ricardo |
chris: Concerning the end of life of 3.0.x ... Couldn't a "door" be opened if someone wants to be the "Release Maintainer" for 3.0.x ? (and no, I'm NOT proposing myself for the job, eheh...) |
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chris |
ricardo: do you see any value in maintaining 2 stable branches? |
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chris |
all i can see is confusion resulting |
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chris |
and duplication of work |
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ricardo |
chris: There are always some people that prefer to stay in their version, and not "risk" an upgrade. So, I guess that I see value in that |
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hdl |
ricardo: the latest release of 3.0 would just to be a clean end. |
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hdl |
3.2 is assumed to be stable enough. |
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chris |
yep, they can stay on 3.0.x but i dont think we should keep releasing versions to it |
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cait |
ricardo: I don't think it's a good thing to stay too long on an old version |
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chris |
having 3 places to fix bugs, just means 3 times as much work |
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hdl |
And actually is since there are more regula updates. |
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chris |
yup |
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ricardo |
chris: I'm only talking about ACCEPTING bugfixes for 3.0.x (not putting new featutres, of course) |
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ricardo |
s/featutres/features |
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sekjal |
Koha is a living entity... doesn't make sense to sit on one version forever (IMHO) |
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hdl |
taking bugfixes from master to 3.0 would be getting more and more difficult. |
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hdl |
It is already |
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Lee |
hey Jo! |
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slef |
could we offer it for a group of users+developers to take up maintenance if they want? Just say that it's the end of koha-community's appointed RM because we think people should upgrade to 3.2 soon. |
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hdl |
But I can leave the door open... |
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ricardo |
slef++ |
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jransom |
hiya all |
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chris |
slef: we could do that |
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slef |
I don't think anyone will, but they can adopt it if they want. |
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chris |
i would strongly recommend people upgrade though |
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hdl |
I would too |
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slef |
Yes, I think it's up to hdl to word his farewell as he thinks fit |
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chris |
so as long as we say 'i dont think this is a good idea, but if you really really want to, you can' |
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slef |
;-) |
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chris |
*nod* |
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ricardo |
slef: Congrats and thanks on explaining my argument much better than I did (seriously!) :) |
| 22:15 |
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chris |
anything more on 3.0.x? |
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hdl |
Problem would be to add foreign key on pushing to 3.0 maybe. |
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hdl |
chris not from me |
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chris |
#topic update on 3.4 |
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Topic for #koha is now update on 3.4 |
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chris |
Ok, work is progressing nicely |
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chris |
but we are developing a bit of a backlog of patches waiting signoff |
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chris |
167 currently |
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chris |
if you look at http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ |
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chris |
there are 3 links at the top, that are handy |
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chris |
top one is patches waiting signoff/qa |
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chris |
2nd one are patches signed off, waiting on me |
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chris |
and the 3rd one, are ones that have been pushed and need to be tested and closed |
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slef |
signoff/qa = signoff by QA? |
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chris |
128 in the 3rd state |
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chris |
not really, signoff or qa |
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chris |
i meant, signed off by someone or rejected for qa reasons |
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slef |
top link, a lot seem to be in status NEW? |
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hdl |
this is quite confusing |
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chris |
status doesnt actually matter |
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slef |
I've been off, this is confusing me, I probably need to go reread some wiki page. |
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chris |
its patch sent, and patch status |
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hdl |
signed off is approval |
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hdl |
And qa would mean disapproval ? |
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chris |
take a look at 5423 |
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chris |
sorry look at bug 5449 |
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nengard |
signed off means someone has applied it successfully to their install of HEAD and has tested it |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5449 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED, JSON malformed in Koha - Blocker with jQuery 1.4.x |
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chris |
see the patch status, on the right, is set to Needs Signoff |
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chris |
from that state |
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chris |
there are 3 ways it can go |
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chris |
signed off |
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ibot |
i think signed off is approval |
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chris |
does not apply |
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chris |
or failed qa |
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ibot |
somebody said failed qa was a new status in the pull down - we don't have one for does not apply yet :) |
| 22:22 |
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chris |
we currently have 167 sitting at the point of having a patch sent, and awaiting one of those three actions |
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chris |
does that make sense? |
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chris |
#link http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ |
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hdl |
maybe a better separation between signedoff and rejected for qa would help. |
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chris |
how do you mean? |
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hdl |
you told that state 2 meant |
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hdl |
signedoff/qa |
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hdl |
that is |
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chris |
its passed qa and been signed off |
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chris |
if its signed off state |
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slef |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
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chris |
what i meant is there are 167 patches that need to be either rejected or signed off |
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hdl |
If signed off by someone who tested it then it has to pass qa am i right ? |
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chris |
small ones, im willing to sidestep signoff for, if i have to, but id rather that every patch has at least 2 sets of eyes |
| 22:26 |
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slef |
can someone who understands how that relates to branchable and bugs add a new first section "choose a patch to sign off" to that page, please? |
| 22:26 |
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cait |
send patch, attach to bug, change status to 'needs sign-off' - that's the status the patches in the long list are |
| 22:27 |
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chris |
hdl: often the signoff is good enough, if i dont think it is, i wont push it and note it still needs qa |
| 22:27 |
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chris |
what i dont think is feasible, is for colin to have to signoff on all those 167 (plus the new ones that come in everyday) by himself |
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hdl |
got it |
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hdl |
branches to merge are branches that passed qa ? |
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chris |
if the branch is awaiting_qa/something then no |
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chris |
if not then, yes |
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chris |
they are ones i need to test further myself |
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chris |
branches to merge is a note for me, so i dont forget :) |
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chris |
the new statuses should help us track them, before we used to just have patch-sent for everything |
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chris |
so was hard to know what state the patch was in |
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hdl |
chris: all the 167 bugs that you talk about are not in branches are they ? |
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chris |
some might be, they will be noted on the bug if they are |
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chris |
for eg 5575 |
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chris |
but the vast majority, no, they are a single patch |
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chris |
if they get signed off |
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chris |
i create a branch, test that branch |
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hdl |
but some are quite old... |
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chris |
merge to master |
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hdl |
the patch sent could need conflict solving |
| 22:33 |
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chris |
yes, some people will have to rebase their patches if they want them to apply, some nice people like owen have been rebasing peoples |
| 22:33 |
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chris |
yes, the person trying to sign off then has 2 options |
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chris |
work with the person who sent the patch to resolve the conflict |
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chris |
or set the status to patch wont apply, and note the conflicts |
| 22:34 |
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nengard |
owen would you mind writing up a short tutorial on what you're doing to rebase other people's patches? If I had instructions I'd gladly help out |
| 22:34 |
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chris |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4329 |
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munin |
Bug 4329: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, OPAC search by shelving location option |
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* nengard |
notices that owen isn't here ... |
| 22:34 |
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chris |
heres one i prepared earlier |
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chris |
#action nengard to ask owen about a tutorial on rebasing others patches |
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hdl |
nengard: git am -3 is your friend |
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hdl |
it tries to merge and let you solve conflict if there is. |
| 22:35 |
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hdl |
And then you can use git mergetool |
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chris |
hokay |
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chris |
so the plan for january, lets get needs signoff under 100 :) |
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nengard |
:) |
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hdl |
why not... |
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chris |
jan 22 is the halfway mark for 3.4.0 |
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hdl |
Lets have also some deep work done on persistence |
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* Brooke |
shudders. |
| 22:38 |
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chris |
early feb, we should be merging the template toolkit work, all things going well |
| 22:38 |
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chris |
i will give lots of warning for that though |
| 22:39 |
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chris |
thats all i have on 3.4.x ... any questions? |
| 22:40 |
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hdl |
I donot see the remove items branch in your plan. |
| 22:40 |
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hdl |
Is it in ? |
| 22:40 |
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chris |
does it have a bug number? |
| 22:41 |
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chris |
basically if its not attached to a bug that i can track, chances are i will miss it |
| 22:41 |
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chris |
its vitally important that everything has a bug, even if that just contains a link to the branch to pull |
| 22:41 |
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hdl |
What about a persistence meeting, we agreed that we could have one at the beginning of the year. |
| 22:41 |
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chris |
yep thats up to someone to organise, theres still time for things to get in, code freeze wont be until april |
| 22:42 |
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* gregglind |
perks up at persistence, which could mean lots of thigns |
| 22:42 |
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chris |
#action someone organise a meeting to talk about persistance |
| 22:42 |
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hdl |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 |
| 22:42 |
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munin |
Bug 5579: enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml |
| 22:43 |
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chris |
if there are patches ready for that, set it to patch-sent and needs signoff and attach the patches or link to the branch |
| 22:43 |
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chris |
and then it will be in the queue |
| 22:43 |
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* nengard |
prefers patches attached (if it matters) |
| 22:44 |
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* jcamins |
agrees with nengard, at least when it's only one. |
| 22:44 |
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chris |
sometimes thats not feasible, if its 12 patches etc |
| 22:44 |
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nengard |
i understand |
| 22:44 |
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chris |
ok, we should push on, still have lots of agenda |
| 22:44 |
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chris |
no chris_n still, so will leave that |
| 22:45 |
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chris |
#action chris_n send an email to the devel list if there is anything we need to know about 3.2.x |
| 22:45 |
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chris |
#topic Koha Mission/Community Guidelines |
| 22:45 |
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Topic for #koha is now Koha Mission/Community Guidelines |
| 22:46 |
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chris |
nengard: you added this? |
| 22:46 |
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nengard |
Brooke gave us her three words summary last time |
| 22:46 |
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nengard |
I thought we should move ahead with that |
| 22:46 |
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nengard |
and use these two documents to start creating something a bit more official |
| 22:46 |
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chris |
i like the idea |
| 22:46 |
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nengard |
at kohacon10 people complained that we had no 'official' rules/guidelines/codes etc |
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nengard |
I know the ubuntu on is creative commons |
| 22:47 |
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nengard |
so we can take it and change Ubuntu to Koha and start with that if we want |
| 22:47 |
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nengard |
did anyone find the licensing on the Debian one? |
| 22:48 |
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chris |
easiest way would be to email them and ask id imagine, i think its under their web license |
| 22:48 |
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chris |
but i dont think we need to use their words |
| 22:48 |
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chris |
just their ideas |
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| 22:49 |
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nengard |
well as the one who ends up doing most of the writing, i'm all for copying and changing a few things to meet our needs |
| 22:49 |
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chris |
the debian one is commendably short :) |
| 22:49 |
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nengard |
instead of using it as a guide and writing it fresh |
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chris |
well, brooke would probably write it |
| 22:49 |
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chris |
eh brooke |
| 22:49 |
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* Brooke |
gulps. |
| 22:49 |
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chris |
:) |
| 22:49 |
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Brooke |
I will try. |
| 22:49 |
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nengard |
what's wrong with using what it says and editing it? |
| 22:49 |
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thd |
I would hardly expect the Debian document to not have a sufficiently free copyright license unless it is meant to serve as a legal document in which case any copyright license would be moot. |
| 22:50 |
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chris |
whats wrong with using its ideas and writing it in our words |
| 22:50 |
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nengard |
the work involved |
| 22:51 |
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hdl |
it would mean copy paste edit... Which is not a good software desing |
| 22:51 |
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thd |
Yes, writing is work. |
| 22:51 |
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hdl |
reuse templates is good |
| 22:51 |
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nengard |
okey dokey, if someone wants to write it great, i'm just trying to move us forward instead of waiting around for someone else to do the work :) |
| 22:52 |
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* Brooke |
might just be someone else. |
| 22:52 |
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nengard |
great |
| 22:52 |
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Brooke |
I'm just saying, it melted me pea sized brain when I looked at both side by side. |
| 22:52 |
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hdl |
nengard++ Brooke++ |
| 22:52 |
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Brooke |
clearly I just need to try harder. |
| 22:53 |
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chris |
slef undoubtedly has some ideas around it also |
| 22:53 |
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wizzyrea |
brooke: i'm happy to help too |
| 22:53 |
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Brooke |
hooray, I'll need it. |
| 22:53 |
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wizzyrea |
(not that you'd need it, mind you) |
| 22:53 |
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wizzyrea |
...or that |
| 22:53 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 22:53 |
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Brooke |
collaboration > flying solo |
| 22:53 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ truf |
| 22:54 |
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slef |
sorry, distracted by the cricket highlights... Bell century :-) |
| 22:54 |
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chris |
#action brooke with the help of wizzyrea and others to start on a draft code of conduct/ social contract thingy |
| 22:54 |
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Lee |
well I am with Nic- no sense in reinventing the wheel |
| 22:54 |
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slef |
Which debian one is being considered? |
| 22:54 |
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Lee |
Ubuntu and Debian are reliable sources |
| 22:54 |
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nengard |
links were in the agenda - which i don't have open :) |
| 22:55 |
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chris |
#link http://www.debian.org/social_contract |
| 22:55 |
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Brooke |
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct |
| 22:55 |
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chris |
#link http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct |
| 22:55 |
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chris |
if you do the #link bit brooke it formats nicely for the minutes |
| 22:55 |
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chris |
just fyi |
| 22:55 |
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slef |
Personally, I like the e-democracy.org rules, but I suspect some things like the anti-mailbombing limit will be a bit harsh. |
| 22:55 |
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Brooke |
yessir. |
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slef |
Well, now, you see, the social contract isn't a code of conduct. |
| 22:56 |
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chris |
nope they are different beasts |
| 22:56 |
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slef |
So what are we trying to do here? |
| 22:56 |
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slef |
Both? One or the other? |
| 22:56 |
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nengard |
i think both |
| 22:56 |
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chris |
i think woudl be nice to have both |
| 22:56 |
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Brooke |
I think we're doing both |
| 22:56 |
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nengard |
plus a mission statement |
| 22:56 |
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Brooke |
and I suspect |
| 22:56 |
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nengard |
based on talks at kohacon |
| 22:56 |
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Brooke |
that one will morph into |
| 22:56 |
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chris |
mission statement = social contract |
| 22:56 |
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nengard |
i disagree |
| 22:56 |
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Brooke |
almost a vendory type affirmation |
| 22:56 |
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nengard |
your mission is what you want to achieve |
| 22:57 |
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nengard |
what's the point of the koha project |
| 22:57 |
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slef |
The social contract is what debian wants to achieve. |
| 22:57 |
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chris |
*nod* |
| 22:57 |
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nengard |
okay then |
| 22:57 |
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chris |
anyway maybe we should move this to its own discussion? and move on, on the agenda? |
| 22:58 |
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chris |
sounds like there are enough interested parties to make sure something is done |
| 22:58 |
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gregglind |
from working with other orgs, it has been useful to remember that these sorts of docs can be draft/iterate, and tend not to be as complex as the ylook. |
| 22:58 |
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slef |
So, we're looking for both. Collect more examples by next meeting? |
| 22:58 |
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chris |
slef: that couldnt hurt |
| 22:59 |
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chris |
gregglind: good point |
| 22:59 |
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slef |
#link http://pages.e-democracy.org/Rules |
| 23:01 |
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chris |
ok, im gonna move on, people can continue this discussion post meeting |
| 23:01 |
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chris |
#topic Koha Newsletter automation |
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Topic for #koha is now Koha Newsletter automation |
| 23:01 |
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chris |
nengard: you're up again |
| 23:01 |
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nengard |
nope, that's slef |
| 23:01 |
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nengard |
he's trying to make my life easier :) |
| 23:01 |
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nengard |
but it's his ideas |
| 23:02 |
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chris |
i thought you wanted to reduce it to bi-monthly |
| 23:02 |
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nengard |
I do - and I am - slef thought he could make it stay monthly with some automatiion |
| 23:02 |
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slef |
ah hi... this is something I mentioned here a few weeks ago and we decided to bring it through a meeting |
| 23:02 |
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chris |
righto |
| 23:03 |
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slef |
to see if the change is worth it to have monthly newsletters continue |
| 23:04 |
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slef |
First question, do people prefer monthly newsletters? |
| 23:04 |
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daniel |
Do we want to ask who "people" are? Who the target audience is, or is imagined to be? |
| 23:05 |
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jransom |
and prefer over 'what' |
| 23:05 |
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slef |
nengard: who's the target audience? |
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| 23:05 |
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nengard |
all of you ... i thought :) |
| 23:05 |
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chris |
perhaps a straw pole on the koha list? |
| 23:05 |
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* Brooke |
consults her bylctionary for the definition of "is" again. |
| 23:05 |
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slef |
jransom: prefer over bi-monthly |
| 23:05 |
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Lee |
I read it |
| 23:05 |
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jransom |
i prefer it over weekly or quarterly |
| 23:05 |
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jransom |
i read it too |
| 23:05 |
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chris |
i like monthly |
| 23:05 |
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Lee |
but I like the daily on Twitter too |
| 23:05 |
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jransom |
its a good summary of everything i might have missed |
| 23:05 |
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Lee |
more spontaneous |
| 23:05 |
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chris |
if we shifted to the 24th of the month, you could have a 3.2.x release in each one ;) |
| 23:06 |
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nengard |
I don't mind doing it monthly if people start sending me content more - i'm not a fan of teeth pulling |
| 23:06 |
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nengard |
and nagging to get articles |
| 23:06 |
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nengard |
I'm find with shifting the date too |
| 23:06 |
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nengard |
fine with |
| 23:06 |
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chris |
i could write a regular article |
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| 23:06 |
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chris |
state of 3.4 |
| 23:06 |
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jransom |
completely understyands nicole aversion to 'being the mother' |
| 23:06 |
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chris |
for each one |
| 23:07 |
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nengard |
good way to put it jo - i never ever want to be a mother |
| 23:07 |
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Lee |
is there away to gather stuff that isnt so time sensitive |
| 23:07 |
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nengard |
that's what slef was talking about |
| 23:07 |
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nengard |
a way to gather info automatically |
| 23:07 |
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slef |
So third question here... would contributors be willing to set up a blog feed or category just for articles? |
| 23:07 |
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Lee |
like posts to the Koha Daily...used in the newslatter |
| 23:08 |
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Lee |
letter |
| 23:08 |
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slef |
"the Koha Daily" = some paper.li site? |
| 23:08 |
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Lee |
I like the blog feed idea alot |
| 23:08 |
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Lee |
I would like to see RSS of some of our cohort on the newletter |
| 23:09 |
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Lee |
the Koha daily I believe is a twitter feed, isnt Nicole? |
| 23:09 |
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slef |
Maybe we should run two straw polls? One asking readers if they mind if it becomes bi-monthly; and one asking contributors if they'd set up a feed for contributions? |
| 23:10 |
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nengard |
slef there is the yahoo pipe already that does have a lot of content |
| 23:10 |
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nengard |
not newseltter specific, but koha specific |
| 23:10 |
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slef |
Or maybe the IRC cabal of me and nengard should just do whatever we think best? ;-) |
| 23:10 |
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Lee |
++ |
| 23:11 |
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slef |
nengard: mirrored at http://owu.towers.org.uk/planets/koha/ and http://owu.towers.org.uk/planets/koha/index.rss IIRC |
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nengard |
slef i'm up for working with you :) |
| 23:11 |
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jransom |
cabal +1 |
| 23:11 |
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magnus |
+1 |
| 23:11 |
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nengard |
in the mean time everyone send me something for a january newsletter |
| 23:11 |
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* Brooke |
was promised initiate status for acquiring candles. |
| 23:11 |
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slef |
oh sorry, IRC cabal of me nengard and wizzyrea because we need stuff installed ;-) |
| 23:11 |
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nengard |
and we'll stay monthly as long as i can keep content coming |
| 23:12 |
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nengard |
i'll move publication to the 25th of the month instead of the 15th |
| 23:12 |
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nengard |
so you have until the 23rd to get me content |
| 23:12 |
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nengard |
23rd your local time zone) |
| 23:12 |
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thd |
Waring about depending upon non-free Yahoo pipes. |
| 23:13 |
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Lee |
here is a tidbit- inspite of the disaster Butte migrated to 3.2.1 |
| 23:13 |
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ricardo |
nengard: That's great... That way we can have the "Koha Monthly Newsletter Christmas Special" on the 25th of December! ;-) |
| 23:13 |
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nengard |
thd - i'm not depending on it - i'm using it as a tool |
| 23:13 |
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nengard |
give me something else that works as well and i'll use it |
| 23:13 |
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thd |
:) |
| 23:13 |
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nengard |
ricard - the 25th of december issue will need to be done by the 15th of the month! :) |
| 23:13 |
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chris |
#action newsletter moved to 25th, slef and nengard to work on ideas to make it less onerous |
| 23:14 |
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slef |
nengard: just keep a backup of the feeds and I can throw up an aggregator if Yahoo Pipes ever goes wrong. |
| 23:14 |
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Lee |
okay I gotta go deal with movers... hugs to all |
| 23:14 |
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Brooke |
cheers |
| 23:14 |
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nengard |
slef - no prob! |
| 23:14 |
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ricardo |
Bye Lee! |
| 23:14 |
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chris |
#topic action points from last meeting |
| 23:14 |
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Topic for #koha is now action points from last meeting |
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| 23:14 |
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chris |
#link http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-12-08-10.00.html |
| 23:14 |
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chris |
meetings on rfc? still to be organised? |
| 23:14 |
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chris |
ditto the biblibre qa session? |
| 23:15 |
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Brooke |
the page is up, but no one stepped up |
| 23:15 |
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hdl |
paul will call for a meeting soon i think |
| 23:15 |
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hdl |
thanks Brooke for that |
| 23:16 |
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chris |
thd: you added the category for performance related rfc? |
| 23:16 |
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thd |
yes |
| 23:16 |
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chris |
tick |
| 23:16 |
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thd |
It has been there a month now. |
| 23:17 |
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thd |
I am typing the last words for a koha list message to restart the ballot process for copyright license upgrade. |
| 23:17 |
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chris |
hdl did his task and that branch has been merged |
| 23:17 |
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chris |
number 6, is meetings again |
| 23:17 |
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hdl |
thd: can you post the link ? |
| 23:17 |
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chris |
excellent thd |
| 23:17 |
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chris |
thd++ |
| 23:18 |
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thd |
hdl: I will post the link when I have sent the message. |
| 23:18 |
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chris |
and jwagner sent out the reminder email |
| 23:18 |
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hdl |
(fot the record) |
| 23:18 |
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hdl |
thd: link to the performance rfc |
| 23:18 |
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chris |
its a category hdl |
| 23:19 |
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hdl |
oh yes. |
| 23:19 |
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thd |
hdl: I could not really find a proper performance RFC but I applied the category to one RFC about circulation. |
| 23:19 |
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chris |
hokay |
| 23:20 |
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chris |
#topic time and date for next meeting |
| 23:20 |
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Topic for #koha is now time and date for next meeting |
| 23:21 |
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chris |
3rd feb? 10:00 utc |
| 23:22 |
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slef |
Chinese New Year (Xin-Mao) |
| 23:23 |
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slef |
otherwise I think it's OK for me |
| 23:23 |
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hdl |
2nd Feb would be better for me |
| 23:23 |
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slef |
Groundhog Day :) |
| 23:23 |
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chris |
2nd is ok |
| 23:23 |
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slef |
2nd also seems ok |
| 23:23 |
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chris |
any objections to the 2nd ... or the time? |
| 23:23 |
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hdl |
(it is a wednesday) |
| 23:24 |
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jcamins |
No objections from me. |
| 23:24 |
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cait |
+1 |
| 23:24 |
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jcamins |
(though I can't promise I'll actually manage to wake up for it) |
| 23:24 |
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chris |
:) |
| 23:25 |
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hdl |
can't keep my eyes open... |
| 23:25 |
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chris |
yeah that will be me next meeting 11pm nz time |
| 23:26 |
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chris |
ok, if there are no objections |
| 23:26 |
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ricardo |
Is there already some agenda proposal for the next meeting? |
| 23:26 |
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chris |
#agreed next meeting is at 10:00UTC 2nd Feb |
| 23:26 |
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chris |
#action ricardo has just volunteered to set up the page for the meeting |
| 23:26 |
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jransom |
thanks everyone |
| 23:26 |
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ricardo |
chris-- |
| 23:27 |
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ricardo |
;-) |
| 23:27 |
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chris |
its easy, copy todays |
| 23:27 |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings |
| 23:27 |
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ricardo |
chris: LOL! OK, eheh... |
| 23:27 |
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chris |
and then change the dates, and blank of the agenda |
| 23:27 |
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magnus |
i'm on it actually |
| 23:27 |
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chris |
cool |
| 23:28 |
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chris |
who wants to send out the reminder ? |
| 23:28 |
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ricardo |
magnus: So, will you edit it? Great, thanks! |
| 23:28 |
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* ricardo |
sighs with great relief ;-) |
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| 23:29 |
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hdl |
good night |
| 23:29 |
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| 23:29 |
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chris |
#action someone send out a reminder email about the meeting |
| 23:29 |
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ricardo |
Good night hdl. Sleep well ! |
| 23:29 |
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chris |
#endmeeting |
| 23:29 |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org. Koha 3.2.2 is now available. Next general meeting on 5 January 2011 22:00 UTC |
| 23:29 |
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munin |
Meeting ended Wed Jan 5 23:29:42 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 23:29 |
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munin |
Minutes: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-01-05-22.01.html |
| 23:29 |
|
munin |
Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]1-01-05-22.01.txt |
| 23:29 |
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munin |
Log: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]05-22.01.log.html |
| 23:29 |
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ricardo |
WOW |
| 23:30 |
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ricardo |
chris: You've "tamed" munin beatifully for the meetings :) |
| 23:30 |
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ricardo |
chris++ |
| 23:30 |
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chris |
gmcharlt installed the module, i just drove it |
| 23:30 |
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ricardo |
chris: Nice... What's the name of the module? |
| 23:30 |
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chris |
meetbot |
| 23:30 |
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ricardo |
Meetbot |
| 23:30 |
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chris |
its what debian use |
| 23:30 |
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ricardo |
right |
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gmcharlt |
which reminds me, I need to get the logs shipped to k-c.org |
| 23:31 |
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ricardo |
I just read it up there now |
| 23:31 |
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ricardo |
gmcharlt: Hi! :) |
| 23:31 |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]uary_2011#Minutes |
| 23:31 |
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chris |
done |
| 23:31 |
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chris |
thanks magnus |
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| 23:32 |
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chris |
i wonder who douger was |
| 23:32 |
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magnus |
we will probably never know... |
| 23:33 |
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ricardo |
magnus: Do I set up the wiki page for the next meeting or will you do / are you doing that ? |
| 23:34 |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…],_2_February_2011 |
| 23:34 |
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magnus |
ricardo: it's done: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…],_2_February_2011 - please feel free to correct any mistakes, though... |
| 23:34 |
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ricardo |
magnus: Looks fine by me! :) |
| 23:34 |
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ricardo |
AH! |
| 23:35 |
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ricardo |
Typo |
| 23:35 |
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ricardo |
Fixing it, eheh |
| 23:35 |
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ricardo |
"5 January 2010" ;-) |
| 23:35 |
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slef |
like that was a typing error... |
| 23:35 |
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Brooke |
I can still catch the end of topgear and the beginning of Hardball if I log. |
| 23:35 |
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Brooke |
cheers |
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| 23:36 |
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ricardo |
Fixed :) |
| 23:36 |
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magnus |
thanks ricardo |
| 23:37 |
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ricardo |
magnus: you're welcome :) |
| 23:38 |
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ricardo |
I'm sorry for not being active on the Koha project. Lots of work (at work) with non-koha related stuff and some more obligations are keeping me busy :-( |
| 23:38 |
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magnus |
sounds all too familiar, ricardo... ;-) |
| 23:39 |
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ricardo |
My last "push" was on December ( Approving/fixing +/- 250 strings for the Portuguese "pt-PT" translation for Koha 3.2) |
| 23:39 |
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slef |
amen |
| 23:39 |
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ricardo |
But I'm guessing I'll only be able to resume work on that near the end of this month :-( |
| 23:39 |
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magnus |
better late than never :-) |
| 23:40 |
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ricardo |
magnus: Thanks for the kind words :) |
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ricardo |
slef: Thank you also! |
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* magnus |
should be asleep now... |
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slef |
I'm being kept busy with strange koha questions, as well as non-koha work (surge of wordpress) |
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gregglind |
so, I mostly do python (though I know perl as well) and js. What's most useful to tackle? |
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chris |
how well do you know koha? |
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gregglind |
and my background is stats, fwiw. |
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slef |
Write a review of django-ils ;-) |
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gregglind |
not terribly well yet. |
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gregglind |
Is there such a thing? |
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slef |
help, we're drowning in statisticians |
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chris |
you might want to look at any of the bugs that involve js |
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slef |
gregglind: yes. I think it's on github somewhere. |
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ricardo |
slef: LOL! |
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gregglind |
yeah, well, I have good cs background as well, and lots of mlis partners so I'm not totally subject-idiotic |
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ricardo |
slef: I don't believe that. Show me the numbers that prove it! ;-) |
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slef |
gregglind: it's on my to-look-at list. I'll get to it next month :-/ |
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gregglind |
#link https://bitbucket.org/permafacture/django-ils/ |
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slef |
not a meeting, don't need #link to put it in the minutes |
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gregglind |
fair enough |
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jcamins |
Okay, time for me to pack some more. |
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* ricardo |
is googling for "MLIS" and finding the "Master of Library and Information Science" page in Wikipedia. Nice... |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha |
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ricardo |
jcamins: Good night (oops... too late) |
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slef |
gregglind: that's the thing, though. I was only kidding about writing a review. |
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gregglind |
I hear it though, and I don't really know the competitive space that well! I do know librarians, and I met nicole a while back, yada yada |
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chris |
id pick a bug you think you can fix, and have a crack :) |
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chris |
there are a few related to js |
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cait |
getting late - bye all :) |
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slef |
ok, I'm going to watch a film, then zzz |
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chris |
cya cait |
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slef |
cait: fibber... it's already late there. night! |
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gregglind |
fair enough! Any special hints on osx? I am also very interested in testng |
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slef |
gregglind: run away? ;-) |
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chris |
use virtualbox |
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gregglind |
I am sure I can find something that is niggling me |
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chris |
and install debian squeeze in it, and make your life a million times easier :) |
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slef |
gregglind: virtualbox would be good... I used fink and it didn't really work right... others have used macports and reported better success |
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chris |
virtual machine is handy |
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chris |
you just burn it down and start again if you mess soemthing up |
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gregglind |
I tend to like homebrew. does koha need a recipe? and I will have to poke virtualbox! |
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gregglind |
anyway, I am sure there is lots of low-hanging fruit :) |
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robin |
http://blog.triumphovermadness[…]-environment.html <-- gregglind |
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slef |
robin: I thought that moved to the wiki? |
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gregglind |
robin ++ |
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robin |
oh, possibly. I just had it open in my browser already. |
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slef |
gregglind: but read the wiki. There's lots there. |
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slef |
now I'm really gone :-) |
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gregglind |
there is a lot there :) a little too a lot, thus my asking for entry points! |
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ricardo |
Bye "statistician slef"! ;-) Take care |
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