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wasabi |
ive just bumped into a nasty prod error... |
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wasabi |
http://k3.kohaaloha.com/cgi-bi[…]ti&q=honour+sword |
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chris |
scroll back |
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wasabi |
a bad-character causes an opac search to barf :/ |
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chris |
i bet its because its saying its utf8 |
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wasabi |
:) |
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chris |
when its marc8 |
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chris |
or vice versa ;) |
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robin |
I think even MARC-8 is probably expecting a bit much. It's probably CP1215 or something odd. |
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wasabi |
yeah, something close to that |
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wasabi |
quick-fix? , wrap that bitch in an eval{} somewhere |
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chris |
it'll just barf in other places then |
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chris |
find the record try changing the leader |
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cfouts |
wasabi: I've seen that when there are Latin-1 chars mistakenly in a utf-8 record. |
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cfouts |
Koha does not do good charset checking on record import |
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robin |
We need a scrubber utility that cleans everything and outputs as UTF-8 |
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gmcharlt |
bit more than that, although that would help |
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gmcharlt |
MARC::Charset could stand to be a little less fiddly |
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chris |
*nod* |
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gmcharlt |
and MARC::File::XML shoudn't be so reliant on the Leader/09 |
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chris |
yeah, cos thats almost never right :) |
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jcamins_a |
robin++ # because if we'd had that scrubber utility the ANS's database wouldn't be so messed up |
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munin |
New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5385 - Fixing an error that crept in with the POD cleanup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c598731ff6bc11794> / bug 4305: add a couple test cases for _isbn_cleanup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8b13adc12c006b51b> / Bug 4305 Improve code flow <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a=commitdiff;h=c8 |
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robin |
jcamins_a: yeah, I've been having issues with imports containing badly-formed characters, so my CSV-to-marc script forces everything to UTF-8 now. |
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brendan_l |
scub on a case by case basis - or batch? |
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wasabi |
looks like its an 'é' character in the 520a, in this record of mine... |
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jcamins_a |
nick jcamins |
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robin |
in my case, on conversion, but I'd be inclined to make a batch one. Possibly even on every record that goes in too, although I'm not sure if changing them is considered bad or not. |
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gmcharlt |
brendan_l: scrub rigorously for ingest - do everything possible to ensure that records in the datbase are UTF-8 and correctly claim that they are |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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jcamins |
So you don't end up with something like what the ANS has. |
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Starting build 30 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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brendan_l |
yeah just trying to think of the workflow - that's it - usually batch wins out |
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robin |
> Firefox kan de server op planet.koha-communit.org niet vinden. |
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robin |
^-- chris, feeling bored? :) |
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robin |
oh |
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robin |
typos won't help my test |
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robin |
ah, it still doesn't exist. |
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chris |
never has |
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chris |
afaik |
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robin |
yeah, was suggesting it should :) |
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chris |
mj runs a planet |
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chris |
lemme find it |
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chris |
ahh its broked :( |
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wasabi |
thanks for the info folks |
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chris |
ive run out of machines to put one on ;) |
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munin |
New commit(s) kohagit32: Fix for Bug 5075 - Terms not highlighted w/ xslt on <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f21fbf8d333907396> / Fix for Bug 5254 - no need to scroll left to right on acq z search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c031cadb77fc6663a> / bug 5235 : circ receipt should include name <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha |
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* Brooke |
is definitely not playing WOW |
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Brooke |
>.> |
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Brooke |
<.< |
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robin |
-+- |
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robin |
damn |
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robin |
missed the space :/ |
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* Brooke |
comforts robin |
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Brooke |
dorkin' ain't easy, yo |
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robin |
tru dat |
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Project Koha_3.2.x build #30: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/30/ |
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* Katrin Fischer: Bug 5112: Organisation does not show links to professionals |
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* Andrew Elwell: Bug 5385: POD Cleanups (part 1) |
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wasabi |
interesting encoding info.... |
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wasabi |
http://www.mail-archive.com/pe[…]org/msg01102.html |
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Nighty night all! |
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chris_n |
!hudson botsnack popcorn & coke |
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chris_n: you're so kind to me! I just love popcorn & coke! |
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New commit(s) kohagit32: bug 5389: mark Business::ISBN as a required dependency <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d020f06905aa2312> |
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heya danielg1 |
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the devel list is busy today |
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kmkale |
bbl |
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good morning |
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cait |
robin++ |
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@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 12.0�C (8:00 AM CET on November 12, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.64 in 1004 hPa (Rising). |
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@wunder wellington, nz |
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cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (8:00 PM NZDT on November 12, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
evening |
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ata marie, #koha |
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hi #koha |
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braedon: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 15.0�C (10:00 PM NZDT on November 12, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
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@wunder bodo, norway |
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magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (10:20 AM CET on November 12, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.00 in 982 hPa (Steady). |
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ray |
good day! |
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magnus |
hiya ray |
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ray |
is it possible to insert an image link to the left link portion of koha's opac? |
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ray |
hello magnus |
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magnus |
ray: you can put any html you like in the OpacNav syspref |
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ray |
but when i put a direct link to an image using its URL it won't appear. |
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magnus |
hm, that's strange. what does the link look like? |
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kf |
ray: what does your html look like? you can use paste.koha-community.org to paste the code. |
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ray |
the result it goes like this... my_ip_address/my_link |
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ray |
my machines own ip address is included in the link even if i did'nt put it in the link i entered |
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ray |
my machine's own ip address is included in the link even if i did'nt put it in the link i entered |
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ray |
<a href="www.sbcbatangas.edu.ph">sbcbatangas.edu.ph/sites/default/files/images/logo-paascu.png</a> |
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magnus |
ray: you need to start the link with http:// |
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magnus |
and use an img tag for the url of the picture |
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ray |
when i hover my mouse instead of pointing to "www.sbcbatangas.edu.ph" the resulting link is "192.168.56.10/www.sbcbatangas.edu.ph" |
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ray |
ok i'll try |
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magnus |
ray: yup that's because the url doesn't start with http... |
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ray |
i did it! i just forgot to insert an image tag.. Thank You! |
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ray |
i did it! i forgot to insert an image tag.. Thank You! |
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magnus |
np! :-) |
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slef |
another happy customer... meanwhile, I think I've found the reason for mysql deadlocking - this library is still using the zebraqueue daemon and it took too long once and seems to keep trying to get locks very very slowly. |
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kf |
hi slef |
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magnus |
slef: yeah, the zebraqueue daemon can be evil... ;-) |
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slef |
magnus: thing is, a triggerable daemon's clearly the right way to do things, isn't it? Real-time index updating, and so on. |
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slef |
for now, I'll ask to switch the library to cron jobs. |
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magnus |
yeah, the daemon seemed to work fine, except for the side effects... |
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magnus |
probably a good idea... |
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maragar |
hello. I have abit of trouble with barcode scaling in patron cards. small nubres produce way too thick bars and my scanner has trouble reading them |
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magnus |
slef: i saw this drop in load when i did the switch: http://div.libriotech.no/files[…]oha-load-week.png |
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slef |
maragar: 3.0? I think the card printer is rewritten in 3.2 although I've not tested it yet. |
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maragar |
is there any way I can add a extra string to generated cardnumbers..... like surename+cardnumber or something? |
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slef |
maragar: in 3.0, I think you need to make sure your number range is high enough, or hack the patron card printer code to use a less wide bar. |
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maragar |
I have latest live cd installed.... so its 3.2 as far as I know |
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slef |
maragar: ah, I can't help yet then. Sorry. Unless someone else can, try emailing the list / posting to the forum. |
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slef |
magnus: ow, yuck. I've nothing like that load from the daemon. |
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kf |
magnus: quite impressive |
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magnus |
yeah, my jaw dropped a bit when i saw that |
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* chris_n |
's too |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 2.4�C (6:38 AM EST on November 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@quote random |
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druthb: Quote #12: "<owen> Every time you check in a book a little video loads and Nancy Pearl recites her capsule review of it." (added by gmcharlt at 02:36 PM, July 06, 2009) |
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owen |
Hi #koha |
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jwagner |
hi owen |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: is there a template update to go along with your patch for bug 5379 ? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5379 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, import_borrowers.pl fails with db insert/update errors |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: I'll submit one with the patch I break out for bug 5366 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5366 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Standing enh req for code changes enabling database agnosticism |
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chris_n |
since that problem was clearly related to the underlying db |
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gmcharlt |
right |
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gmcharlt |
the patron attribute problem is easy enough to reproduce |
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gmcharlt |
hi sylvar |
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sylvar |
howdy gmcharlt |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha |
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druthb |
howdy, jcamins. :) |
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owen |
I try to keep up to date by reading the IRC log, but when you guys start talking about MARC minutiae I start scrolling |
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jcamins |
owen: awww. |
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owen |
But I'm glad /someone/ is talking about it :) |
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jcamins |
MARC is fun! |
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jcamins |
Kind of like root canal surgeries. |
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jcamins |
:D |
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jcamins |
marc-- |
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owen |
Hi cfouts |
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cfouts |
good morning, owen |
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cfouts |
how is beautiful SE Ohio today? |
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owen |
It's pretty nice... sunny and crisp. |
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owen |
The fall color is almost completely gone though |
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jcamins |
cfouts: I had a question about the XML parser thing... do you test that just by changing the ParserDetails.ini file? |
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cfouts |
jcamins: you can do it that way, though setting it via "$XML::SAX::ParserPackage = 'XML::SAX::ExpatXS';" isolates it to that single script. |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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Wait, in that case why don't we just use XML::SAX::ParserPackage = 'XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser';? |
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jcamins |
I mean, to avoid the editing bit. |
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jcamins |
The editing bit in the installation procedure. |
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jcamins |
Good morning, sekjal. |
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sekjal |
morning jcamins! |
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jcamins: a matter of making sure that every use of MARC::File::XML sees the right parser |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: but you're correct that that would be better |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: I guess there's an encapsulation problem with that? |
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hasn't looked at the use of MARC::File::XML at all. |
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kf |
hi jcamins, sekjal and gmcharlt |
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jcamins |
Hi kf |
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sekjal |
morning kf! |
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kf |
nah, near time for the weekend |
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kf |
:) |
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* jcamins |
is jealous |
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kf |
chris_n: around? |
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jcamins |
How would one map 952$h ("Serial enumeration/chronology") to MFHD? |
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magnus |
what's MFHD? |
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jcamins |
MARC21 Format for Holdings Data. |
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sekjal |
magnus: evil |
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jcamins |
One of the more horrifying aspects of MARC, IMHO. |
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sekjal |
jcamins: I don't think we can map 942$h to MFHD very well |
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sekjal |
MFHD to 952$h, maybe |
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jcamins |
Okay, that's what I thought. |
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sekjal |
MFHD is a snarl of all kind of interrelated codes, and 952$h is just flat text |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
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sekjal |
the workflow I see: 952$h would be populated by a Bindery tool |
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jcamins |
Ooh, kf rebased! |
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jcamins |
kf++ |
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sekjal |
you'd specify which serials issues should be part of the new item, then send them off to be bound. receive, and the new item (with 952$h) is created |
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kf |
yep, I did |
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kf |
chris taught me at kohacon :) |
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kf |
chris## |
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kf |
chris |
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kf |
chris++ |
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* kf |
can't type :( |
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magnus |
kf: good think the weekend is just about to start ;-) |
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magnus |
s/think/thing/ |
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jcamins |
sekjal: that makes sense. |
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kf |
sekjal: you talk about bindings? |
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jcamins |
Sadly, it also doesn't resolve my conundrum. I have a 5-volume encyclopedia in 6 parts which is both analyzed and given a collective record. |
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jcamins |
So now I'm trying to figure out what to do about the item records. |
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sekjal |
kf: talking about taking loose serials issues, sending them to a binding company, and getting a book back |
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kf |
interesting :) |
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kf |
are you developing something in this direction? |
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sekjal |
kf: not actively, no |
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kf |
we had a library asking about it |
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sekjal |
but I've been planning it for years |
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sekjal |
okay, year+ |
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kf |
it's the one point they are missing enough to take another system |
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chris_n |
heya kf |
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sekjal |
I am going to be doing a lot of serials work in the near future, but I don't know if bindery will be included |
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sekjal |
it's less popular these days |
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sekjal |
all them electronic journals |
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kf |
chris_n: signed-off - works great! |
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jcamins |
kf: what bindery features do they want? |
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jcamins |
I've never used the serials module, but I thought that it was possible to check in serials without creating item records. |
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kf |
binding serials, manage waht they send to the bookbinder, manage how the binded volume will look like (color, font, etc), claims |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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kf |
print letters for the bookbinder with the information |
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chris_n |
kf: tnx! |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that's definitely not done. |
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kf |
not sure they need all of that - I am not a bindings expert |
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jcamins |
(not that I doubted you, it just didn't occur to me that an ILS would do that) |
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kf |
but they are using this module in ... another system right know |
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kf |
which can do that |
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kf: I think it only ever worked before when the biblionumber happened to be an itemnumber as well |
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kf |
so normally they don't want to loose the functionality |
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kf |
chris_n: that makes sense... in a way |
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kf |
and if I was testing with a small amount of borrowers and items.. I have probably seen an amount there sometimes |
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kf |
I did a lot of testing, almost all borrowers had fines |
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chris_n |
same here... |
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kf |
this system was clean, only one checkout at all |
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kf |
no fines |
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kf |
should be really ok now :) and the fine was incrementing |
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chris_n |
if the first 100 bibs had one item each, it is entirely possible the numbers sync'd |
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kf |
true |
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kf |
nah, it will work, that's good enough forme :) |
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owen |
Is the Anonymize patron history tool safe to use? Anyone using it in a live system? |
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sekjal |
owen: I think it breaks some statistics |
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kf |
owen: interested in that too - was not brave enough to use it yet |
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owen |
sekjal: that's not good |
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sekjal |
don't know that for sure, but I recall some discussion about it at KohaCon |
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* owen |
grumbles |
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kf |
owen: we thought the problem was , that it is deleting the borrowernumber completely |
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kf |
so you can't find out later, which borrower category it was |
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kf |
but needs testing to make sure about that |
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kf |
perhaps the information is still logged in the statistics table or somewhere else |
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wizzyrea |
as far as I can tell it pretty well nukes everything about that patron from the records |
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kf |
closing_bugs++ :) |
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magnus |
it works on db table old_issues, not issues - and sets borrowernumber = NULL |
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magnus |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]rowers.pl;hb=HEAD |
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magnus |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…].pm;hb=HEAD#l2386 |
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wizzyrea |
erm, revision I *meant* old info |
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wizzyrea |
lord help us if you anonymized and you nuked stuff out of issues |
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* wizzyrea |
cowers in fear |
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magnus |
issues/old_issues only has the borrowernumber, so yeah, you loose tha ability to do stats by borrower category |
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magnus |
hiya trea |
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* trea |
waves |
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trea |
how goes it |
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jcamins |
Harrumph! |
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wizzyrea |
that bad eh |
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kf |
hi trea |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I am still trying to track down all the books that have item records but no barcodes. |
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jcamins |
Most are missing. |
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brendan |
morning |
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jcamins |
Good morning, brendan |
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trea |
hi kf |
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trea |
jcamins: wizzyrea's in a meeting, she'll back in a few |
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trea |
be back even* |
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jcamins |
trea: just explaining why I was channeling jwagner. ;) |
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trea |
hehe |
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jwagner |
channeling me? You have a bad head cold??? |
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jcamins |
jwagner: oh no! Your cold still isn't better? :( |
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jwagner |
A little better, but I'm losing my voice and still coughing & sneezing a lot. Of course, there are some misguided individuals who think my losing my voice is a GOOD thing. We ignore them :-) |
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* druthb |
looks innocent. |
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sekjal |
does anyone remember a 'renew' link on the circulation-home page? |
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sekjal |
next to checkout and checkin? |
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owen |
Where exactly would that take you? |
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sekjal |
apparently, it was designed so that you could just scan a barcode, and renew it |
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sekjal |
which is reversed from the usual workflow |
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* owen |
doesn't recall Koha ever having that |
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sekjal |
I can't find any evidence in Git that it existed |
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owen |
...but I remember our old system having it, and wishing Koha had it |
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sekjal |
going to ask for clarification |
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kf |
good night all :) |
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slef |
bug 5395 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5395 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, C4::Acquisition::SearchOrder POD inconsistent with function |
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slef |
anyone fancy updating that function description? |
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gmcharlt |
relevant commit with the big change to it seems to be 62f18426 |
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jwagner |
anyone else having trouble getting into bugzilla? Keeps timing out on me. |
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slef |
The old description was wrong too. |
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slef |
jwagner: I wasn't a few minutes ago but I am now. |
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slef |
and *** chris (~chris bugs.koha-community.org) has quit: Ping timeout is not encouraging |
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wizzyrea |
bugs is working for me |
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gmcharlt |
cute - now we have competing packages of idzebra to deal with |
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gmcharlt |
one set packaged by IndexData, another by Vincent Danjean |
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chris_n |
!hudson botsnack bbq chips |
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hudsonbot |
chris_n: yummy! I really like that bbq chips |
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* chris_n |
tosses a few to munin as well |
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thd |
gmcharlt: Have the type of ICU problems which BibLibre have identified been found when using Evergreen? |
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gmcharlt |
thd: completely different search engines |
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thd |
gmchrlt: Exactly, that is why I was asking. |
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chris_n |
what engine does EG use? |
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thd |
gmcharlt: chris is suspecting the Koha search code. |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: the equivalent of NoZebra, except much better |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: more precisely, it's essentially a handcrafted engine built on top of the Postgres tsearch2 full text search subsystem |
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thd |
gmcharlt: So Evergreen uses Zebra only as a Z39.50/SRU server but not for local indexing? |
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chris_n |
if its built on PG it must be good |
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gmcharlt |
thd: Evergreen doesn't use Zebra at all - it just uses simplezoom to provide the Z39.50/SRU frontend |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: is it modular enough to be considered in the current debate over replacement? |
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gmcharlt |
not really |
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thd |
gmcharlt: Do you mean Simple Search? |
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thd |
gmcharlt: Do you mean Simple Sever? |
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thd |
gmcharlt: Do you mean Simple Sevrer? |
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hands thd a new keyboard |
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chrisc |
looks like there is something up with linode today |
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chris_n |
hi chrisc |
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gmcharlt |
thd: I've never found severing to be simple ;) |
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gmcharlt |
thd: and I mean simple2zoom |
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chrisc |
the machine is fine, just seems to keep losing its connections to the world |
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jwagner |
It's seceding from the rest of the world? |
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has that trouble occasionally himself... the losing connections part |
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* jwagner |
wouldn't mind seceding sometimes either |
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heads off to fix yet *another* win32 problem |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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Hi cait |
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mib_2wvfh |
is there anything that prevents non-staff patron categories from logging into the staff opac? |
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cait |
no, but some things can be strange if your patrons are not staff |
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cait |
ok, perhaps I should explain that and answer your question (tired) |
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cait |
if a patron has the permissions to log into staff he can, but I would recommend to use the staff category |
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brendan |
hey cait |
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cait |
hi brendan :) |
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wizzyrea |
mib_2wvfh: Yes, the patron has to have the staff permissions checked |
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wizzyrea |
they cannot log in as staff by default |
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wizzyrea |
does that answer your question? |
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mib_2wvfh |
wizzyrea: yes, but i'm not seeing where the staff permissions is set, i can't find it in patron categories |
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jcamins |
mib_2wvfh: you have to create the patron, and go to Set Permissions. |
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owen |
mib_2wvfh: You have to set it on a per-user basis |
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wizzyrea |
you must http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=x5851#AEN5851 |
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mib_2wvfh |
oh boy |
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thd |
gmcharlt: http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwi[…]in:sru_and_z39.50 implies that Evergreen translates PQF queries into CQL. |
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wizzyrea |
well, that came out wrong. Correct link though |
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gmcharlt |
thd: well, to be precise, simple2zoom does |
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jcamins |
mib_2wvfh: what are you trying to do? |
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mib_2wvfh |
jcamins: prevent patrons that are not in the staff category from logging into the staff opac |
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thd |
gmcharlt: Yes, although, such queries have much less expressive power by default than PQF queries have using the Bib-1 attribute set for example. |
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jcamins |
mib_2wvfh: in that case you don't need to do anything. |
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jcamins |
Unless you already gave them staff permissions. |
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jcamins |
We just explained how to *allow* patrons to log into the staff client. |
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mib_2wvfh |
jcamins: well, i've got a patron category of 'Adult' type, and another of 'Staff' type. both can log in |
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cait |
are you talking about the opac account or about the staff interface? |
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mib_2wvfh |
staff |
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jcamins |
mib_2wvfh: what version of Koha do you have? |
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jcamins |
I get an unauthorized user message when I try that, so I think you must have given your Adult users permission to use the Staff client somehow. |
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mib_2wvfh |
3.02.00.004 |
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jcamins |
Same version as I have. |
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jcamins |
mib_2wvfh: just to check... you have logged out of all your staff client windows with your staff user before trying to login with an adult user, right? |
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mib_2wvfh |
jcamins: right |
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mib_2wvfh |
one second, let me check something |
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chris |
Error: Unauthorized userclick to log out is what i get too |
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mib_2wvfh |
i am using auth with ldap, but that shouldn't cause problems.. |
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jcamins |
I don't use ldap, so I don't know anything about it. |
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jcamins |
I imagine it's related, though. |
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* Katrin Fischer: Bug 4979: Acq: input fields for new record are too short |
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cfouts |
mib_2wvfh: I would not necessarily jump to that conclusion |
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cfouts |
ldap uses its own copy of the auth function that may differ subtly from the default one |
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jcamins |
mib_2wvfh: once the Adult user is logged in, are they able to do anything? |
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mib_2wvfh |
jcamins: yes, the whole shebang. preferences, everything |
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brendan |
henry you here? |
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mib_2wvfh |
in categories.category_type , all are set to 'A' , with staff being the only one set to 'S' |
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gmcharlt |
mib_2wvfh: in the userflags table, are there any permissions other than borrower where defaulton is 1? |
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mib_2wvfh |
gmcharlt: no |
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gmcharlt |
and another question, what is the value of borrowers.flags for the 'A' patrons? |
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mib_2wvfh |
gmcharlt: well, borrower is 0, borrow is 1, i suppose that's what you meant |
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munin |
New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 4305: Add test case for ISBN-13 to ISBN-10 conversion <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d10273539bc039f12> |
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mib_2wvfh |
gmcharlt: null |
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gmcharlt |
hmm |
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gmcharlt |
what's in user_permissions? any references for patrons other than the staff patron? |
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mib_2wvfh |
gmcharlt: that table is empty |
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gmcharlt |
hmm - is the 'demo' system preference on? |
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Starting build 33 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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chris |
cfouts: the ldap just does the password checking the permissions is still checked in C4/Auth.pm (it just calls checkpw_ldap instead of checking the password internally) the permissions are checked the ssame |
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mib_2wvfh |
gmcharlt: hmm, could you tell me where that is or what the variablename is? i'm not finding it. |
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mib_2wvfh |
chris: right, that's why i was saying it shouldn't make a difference |
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gmcharlt |
look for a row in systempreferences where variable = 'demo' |
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cfouts |
ah, got it |
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mib_2wvfh |
gmcharlt: yeah, i actually did a 'like' but that returned nothing |
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chris |
so what permissions does the user you are logging in with have set? |
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mib_2wvfh |
chris: superlibrarian |
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chris |
well thats why then |
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chris |
if you create a new adult patron, does it have superlibrarian checked? |
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thd |
gmcharlt: What does Evergreen do for Yaz to function as a server of SQL queries to send to Postgres? |
| 18:19 |
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* cait |
waves to chris |
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chris |
hi cait |
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mib_2wvfh |
chris: no, and as soon as i said that i realized what i had overlooked, haha. sorry for the time wasted guys. i just got confused when changing my category didn't change its permissions and the whole per-user permissions thing |
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chris |
:) |
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mib_2wvfh |
now, as far as the permissions, since those are on a per-user basis, is there anything built in that allows me to change them based on category or would i just have to run a query? |
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jcamins |
mib_2wvfh: you mean you need to change the category of user frequently, and you want to reset the permissions based on the new category every time you change? |
| 18:28 |
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jcamins |
I don't think you can do that. |
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jcamins |
I could be mistaken, though. |
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mib_2wvfh |
jcamins: well no, i just have say a category of borrowers, say 300, that should only have access to certain tools in the staff interface or something like that |
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mib_2wvfh |
jcamins: it doesn't need to be frequently, but i would like all patrons of that category to have a certain set of permissions |
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cait |
hm; perhaps you can have users by permissions instead of individual users? |
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mib_2wvfh |
cait: im not sure i understand what you mean, but as you may have noticed i am not exactly at my sharpest today |
| 18:33 |
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cait |
me neither - was a long day |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_3.2.x build #33: SUCCESS in 19 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/33/ |
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hudsonbot |
Colin Campbell: Bug 4305: Add test case for ISBN-13 to ISBN-10 conversion |
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cait |
perhaps someone will say that's not a good idea: but you could have one user account for more than one staff user |
| 18:34 |
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owen |
We do that for our circ staff |
| 18:34 |
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cait |
right, we do that in our other system too |
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mib_2wvfh |
cait: oh i see, yeah, unfortunately i can't do that because of confidentiality and such, and the fact that we authenticate by ldap, which goes into less important details |
| 18:35 |
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cait |
and have users for acq, admin... |
| 18:35 |
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cait |
hm ok |
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mib_2wvfh |
perhaps i'm the exception here, but it seems like group permissions wouldn't be a bad idea, are there any plans / future needs for it? |
| 18:36 |
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owen |
many would agree mib_2wvfh, but no one has volunteered to fund and/or code it |
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mib_2wvfh |
owen: hmmm |
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cait |
our libraries are quite small - so it's easy to manage. but I think if you have a lot of staff it would make things easier |
| 18:39 |
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mib_2wvfh |
i may mull over this with my supervisor and hopefully we can find a solution that can be pushed back |
| 18:39 |
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cait |
:) |
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chris |
mib_2wvfh: make sure you write up a rfc and file a corresponding enhancement bug in bugzilla :) |
| 18:43 |
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chris |
even if you cant fund it |
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chris |
that will make it a trillion times more likely for it to be done |
| 18:43 |
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owen |
Hey chris, do you have time for a git question? |
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chris |
mib_2wvfh: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]equest_Guidelines |
| 18:44 |
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chris |
owen: kids willing :) |
| 18:44 |
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owen |
I've got a bunch of bugfix branches on gitorious, but they're getting fairly out of date now relative to master. |
| 18:45 |
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owen |
I don't really understand the process of rebasing them on a remote system like that |
| 18:45 |
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* jcamins |
perks up his ears, he doesn't understand either |
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owen |
If I try to push a rebased branch from my dev system git complains about fast-forwards |
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chris |
right |
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chris |
you'll probably want to force it |
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chris |
owen: anyone else push to your branches? or just you? |
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owen |
Just me |
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chris |
ok force is safe then |
| 18:47 |
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chris |
try |
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chris |
git push -f |
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owen |
So the git warning about "losing history" is only valid if you've got others pushing to the same branch |
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chris_n |
git++ |
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chris |
if you do -f you force it to be the same as your local repo |
| 18:49 |
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chris |
thats dangerous if others have pushed, and you dont have those changes in your local repo |
| 18:49 |
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chris |
if you instead do want that branch to be the same as your local branch (which i think you do) |
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chris |
then the force is fine |
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* owen |
humbly thanks chris and his kids |
| 18:53 |
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jcamins |
owen: so I think what chris is saying is "use the Force, owen." ;) |
| 18:59 |
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owen |
Okay, 52 bugfix branches rebased against HEAD http://gitorious.org/koha-dev/koha-dev |
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chris |
wooot well done |
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jcamins |
The Force is strong in this one. :D |
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cait |
fast |
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cait |
:) |
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owen |
Is there a Jedi equivalent to "Ctrl-V?" |
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wizz_eat |
"this is not the branch you're looking for " |
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chris |
ok, time to play with the kids |
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chris |
back later |
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cait |
:) |
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owen |
Enjoy your weekend chris |
| 19:01 |
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cait |
-Bug-5037-hide-patron-cats-2010-08-27 |
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cait |
you can hide the patron's cats? :) |
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* cait |
goes to hide |
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owen |
:D |
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owen |
chris_n: From your point of view is there anything I can do to help get these fixes into 3.2.1? |
| 19:04 |
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* owen |
hoped, with many of them, that they'd make it into 3.2 |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
owen: I thin some of them did |
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* owen |
supposes, "Get signoffs" |
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chris_n |
owen: if they are rebased against HEAD and you submit them, chris can push them and I'll backport them |
| 19:05 |
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chris_n |
that too :) |
| 19:05 |
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owen |
cait: I've been trying to trim any bugfix branch that made it into HEAD |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
yeah, the one I thought about was not :( |
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cait |
owen: I can try to sign-off on some of them |
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owen |
that would be awesome cait |
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chris_n |
owen: send along pull requests or submit the patches |
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cait |
no problem :) |
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chris_n |
lots of folks have been signing off |
| 19:08 |
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cait |
galen did most of my older patches |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
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owen |
See, I'm not sure what the protocol is: All of these have had patches submitted, but a while ago now |
| 19:08 |
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cait |
I think I have only one or two left for rebasing now |
| 19:08 |
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owen |
I don't know what the statute of limitations is |
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* chris_n |
has several patches buried in the mail too |
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gmcharlt |
owen: there is none |
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cait |
statute of limitation? |
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gmcharlt |
right |
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gmcharlt |
though as a practical matter, resubmitting the most important ones will bring it to more attention |
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owen |
cait: "statute of limitation" is a phrase usually used in the legal sense: The time after which someone can no longer be tried for a crime |
| 19:12 |
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* owen |
's crime is loving Koha too much *sniff* |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
there is no loving koha too much |
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* trea |
sings "if lovin' Koha's wrong, I don't wanna be right" |
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gmcharlt |
trea: it didn't happen unless there's a YouTube video to prove it ;) |
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trea |
stand by |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.6�C (8:34 PM CET on November 12, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006.7 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
evil wind |
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wizz_eat |
@wunder lawrence, ks |
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munin |
wizz_eat: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 9.8�C (1:32 PM CST on November 12, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady). |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.0�C (11:32 AM PST on November 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Falling). |
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brendan |
cool today - had to wear a heavy sweater to make it to work |
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cait |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on November 13, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11105 |
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munin |
jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 16.8�C (2:35 PM EST on November 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 16%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1026.6 hPa (Steady). Coastal Flood Advisory in effect from 11 am this morning to 3 PM EST this afternoon... |
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wizzyrea |
aw! nice! |
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jcamins |
Coastal *flood* advisory? |
| 19:21 |
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jcamins |
There's not a cloud in the sky. |
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jcamins |
[cue ominmous thunder] |
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wizzyrea |
it's poseidon |
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trea |
i'm sure there's a kraken joke in there somehow |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 19.0�C (2:40 PM EST on November 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:31 |
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* jcamins |
needs to learn German |
| 19:31 |
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cait |
? |
| 19:31 |
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cait |
why? :) |
| 19:31 |
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jcamins |
Skimming a 20-page German article looking for something that looks like "half sheet imposition" is hopeless. |
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jcamins |
25-page. |
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cait |
I would offer to help, but I have no idea what a "half sheet imposition" is |
| 19:32 |
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* owen |
neither, and he speaks passable English |
| 19:33 |
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jcamins |
It's a method of printing in the hand press period (say, before 1800). Basically instead of printing the entire side of a sheet of paper at once, they'd print half of one side, then turn the paper around to print the other half. |
| 19:34 |
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owen |
My printmaker friends from college would roll their eyes at my ignorance. |
| 19:34 |
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jcamins |
owen: at least you had printmaker friends from college. This brings you much closer to being an expert than most people. ;) |
| 19:37 |
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cait |
want me to have a look? |
| 19:37 |
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jcamins |
cait: it's a printed article. :( |
| 19:37 |
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cait |
hm ok |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
want me to try and find out the German term? |
| 19:38 |
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jcamins |
Oh, yes please! |
| 19:40 |
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cait |
ok, no promise, but trying |
| 19:40 |
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danielg |
danielg says hi |
| 19:41 |
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owen |
Hi danielg |
| 19:41 |
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trea |
hail danielg |
| 19:42 |
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danielg |
i've had a bad cold since the day i got home from nz. today i'm passing time lurking here |
| 19:42 |
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* owen |
urges danielg to identify the faces in his kohacon Flickr photos |
| 19:42 |
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cait |
oooh - I got it from you!! |
| 19:42 |
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sekjal |
sorry, to hear that, danielg |
| 19:42 |
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cait |
but get better.... ;) |
| 19:43 |
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danielg |
cait: thanks, but i thought i got it from you! |
| 19:43 |
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cait |
from me? never |
| 19:43 |
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danielg |
sekjal: thanks |
| 19:44 |
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danielg |
owen: i id'ed everyone whose flicker nick i knew, but that was only 4 |
| 19:44 |
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owen |
I was thinking captions or notes danielg |
| 19:44 |
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* owen |
is trying to live vicariously |
| 19:45 |
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danielg |
owen: i got excited by my new camera, took too many photos, and put them all up. i need to cull them |
| 19:46 |
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danielg |
i can't even send links to friends yet. who wants to look at 200 photos of geeks at dinner? |
| 19:46 |
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danielg |
present company excluded, of course |
| 19:46 |
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jcamins |
danielg: if you have enough pictures, I can look at one every second and pretend I was there. ;) |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
Well, every minute, anyway. |
| 19:47 |
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danielg |
jcamins: have at it! http://www.flickr.com/photos/68583087@N00/ |
| 19:48 |
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* jcamins |
wishes he had gotten to go to KohaCon10. :( |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
jcamins: I found a hint in google books: halb-bogen-verfahren |
| 19:50 |
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danielg |
jcamins: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=kohacon10&w=all yields 970 opportunities for vicarious nostalgia |
| 19:50 |
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jcamins |
cait: oh, thank you! |
| 19:51 |
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* jcamins |
goes through the article looking for a phrase that looks something like "halb bogen verfahren" |
| 19:52 |
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cait |
hope it's the right term, but it makes sense. |
| 19:53 |
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cait |
but it could use another term perhaps :( |
| 19:53 |
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jcamins |
I have a feeling that this article doesn't talk about the printing at all anyway. |
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cait |
nah |
| 20:16 |
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cait |
now owen ran away |
| 20:17 |
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cait |
was about to ask him where to start with his patches! |
| 20:17 |
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jcamins |
So, what does everyone thing... should I add a location code "Freezer" for the books that we have in the freezer? |
| 20:18 |
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jcamins |
Or should "freezer" be a shelving location? |
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gmcharlt |
shelving location is probably fine unless you also have a circulation desk inside the freezer |
| 20:18 |
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gmcharlt |
in which case, well, I pity the circulation clerk ;) |
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jcamins |
:) |
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trea |
danielg: good looking pics! |
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* jwagner |
hasn't had time to look at anyone's pics yet, but hopes to get to that soon! |
| 20:20 |
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jcamins |
I'll call the shelving location "Preservation freezer," so it sounds better. |
| 20:20 |
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cait |
:) |
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danielg |
trea: thanks! quite a few of you in there. |
| 20:22 |
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danielg |
btw, i'm still waiting to hear "if loving koha's wrong" |
| 20:23 |
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danielg |
"and am i wrong to give my love to an ILS?" |
| 20:24 |
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jcamins |
danielg: it's not the same, but I am finding myself endlessly amused by this record I just edited: http://donum.numismatics.org/c[…]blionumber=175684 |
| 20:24 |
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jcamins |
(it's *definitely* Friday) |
| 20:25 |
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danielg |
"Firefox can't find the server at donum.numismatics.org" |
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jcamins |
danielg: http://67.23.24.39/cgi-bin/koh[…]blionumber=175684 |
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chris |
danielg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9eTwoHQvVA |
| 20:26 |
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jcamins |
I guess this means our DNS is not actually working. |
| 20:27 |
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danielg |
chris: awww, i'm teary and nostalgic just by the name |
| 20:27 |
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chris |
its cheesy as hell (on purpose) |
| 20:28 |
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danielg |
i should hope it wasn't accidental! |
| 20:28 |
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trea |
chris: wizzyrea and i were laughing over that last night |
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jwagner |
Have a good weekend, everyone. |
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danielg |
jwagner: thanks, you too. get well! |
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danielg |
trea: just watched it. was laughing, too, when i wasn't cringing |
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trea |
heh |
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trea |
jcamins: http://dnssy.com/report.php?q=numismatics.org |
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jcamins |
trea: Ironically, it would seem I can't access that site. |
| 20:42 |
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jcamins |
Ah, there we go. |
| 20:42 |
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jcamins |
"None of your nameservers returned an SOA record for your domain." |
| 20:44 |
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trea |
....yea |
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trea |
:/ |
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* jcamins |
likes not having anything to do with the DNS server |
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trea |
lucky you |
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danielg |
jcamins: ok, i can see it now. that title's pretty amusing--and obscure |
| 20:51 |
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jcamins |
danielg: the part that's making me laugh is the item record. |
| 20:51 |
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danielg |
the freezer? |
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* jcamins |
giggles |
| 20:51 |
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jcamins |
Yep. |
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jcamins |
It drew some comments when our Executive Director wanted to store some steaks in the freezer. |
| 20:53 |
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jcamins |
Well, less comment and more bafflement. |
| 20:55 |
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danielg |
what else ya got in that freezer? |
| 20:56 |
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jcamins |
I should probably figure that out and transfer those items to the freezer shelving location, too, huh? |
| 20:56 |
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jcamins |
Just a couple books from Uzbekistan, I think. |
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danielg |
i imagine that preservationists find nothing whatsoever amusing or unusual about this |
| 20:57 |
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jcamins |
That's probably true. |
| 20:58 |
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jcamins |
They probably also don't see the need for a note that says "please do not eat." |
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danielg |
ha! |
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* chris_n |
kept some 400 year old leaves in his freezer after they became submerged in muddy water |
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chris_n |
they were later sent off to be cleaned |
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chris_n |
leaves of books that is :) |
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danielg |
of paper? |
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danielg |
ok |
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chris_n |
right |
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danielg |
speaking of freezers, lunchtime. hope to find no books, steaks, or muddy leaves |
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jcamins |
danielg: I guess you're a vegetarian? |
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jcamins |
:) |
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danielg |
ya |
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* chris_n |
heads out to find food |
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cait |
hmpf, missed obvious flaw while testing :( |
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gmcharlt |
cait: it happens, no big deals |
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gmcharlt |
that's why the expression is 'many eyes make bugs shallow', not 'two eyes' :) |
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cait |
gmcharlt: but still annoying - really checked it iin opac and intranet |
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jcamins_a |
Good night, #koha |
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jcamins_a |
Have a good weekend. |
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cait |
gmcharlt: I am going to fix it |
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gmcharlt |
cait++ |
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cait |
bye jcamins - you too |
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thd |
gmcharlt: What does Evergreen do for Yaz to function as a gateway fo SQL queries to send to Postgres? |
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gmcharlt |
Evergreen has a SRU/W gateway |
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thd |
gmcharlt: Written in Perl? |
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gmcharlt |
so user => Z39.50 => simple2zoom => translate into SRU/W => query EG SRU/W gateway => OpenSRF => lots of middleware Perl and stored procedures => tsearch2 |
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gmcharlt |
one could in theory use EG as an external search engine for Koha, but at present, if you do so, you might as well just run Evergreen directly |
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thd |
gmcharlt: why do I not see gmcharlt in the list of #koha users in my IRC client? |
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trea |
thd: he's ops |
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thd |
oh there you are |
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thd |
:) |
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thd |
I thought that I had looked there |
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thd |
Sorry gmcharlt, I thought that I had been communicating with a ghost :) |
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thd |
gmcharlt: have you ever investigated the prospect of using Yaz as a gateway server for anything other than PQF or CQL? |
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trea |
@wunder 66049 |
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trea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 8.3�C (4:12 PM CST on November 12, 2010). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Rising). |
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cait |
gmcharlt: done - hope I missed nothing this time :) |
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wizzyrea |
til later, my friends. |
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cait |
ok, bed time - good night all |
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munin |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5059' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e9706f0fdc5be3e7f> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5058' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1a19f506a942bc897> / Bug 5059: Inconsistent use of ordering price and list price in vendor form <http://git.koha-community.org/ |
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gmcharlt |
thd: in order to do what? |
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thd |
gmcharlt: pass a query to in one possibility Solr/Lucene which is available as newly added but hardly documented feature. |
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hudsonbot |
Starting build 148 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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thd |
gmcharlt: I had presumed that was only with Yaz as a Z39.50/SRU client however there is some mere suggestion in the documentation of using Yaz as a server. |
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thd |
gmcharlt: Yaz could be used under a model similar to Evergreen: user => Z39.50 => simple2zoom => translate into SRU CQL => translate into Solr/Lucene query => Solr/Lucene but two problems. |
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thd |
gmcharlt: Almost no documentation and basic CQL does not have all the nice Bib-1 use attributes available for configuration. |
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thd |
gmcharlt: Older parts of the documentation hint at other possibilities which might use PQF but only hint. |
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thd |
Maybe there is a new example configuration file for Pazpar2 using Solr/Lucene. |
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munin |
New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5393 [SIGNED-OFF]: add test case to check well-formedness of XML/XSLT files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5626a7190c75218a8> |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_Master build #148: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]/Koha_Master/148/ |
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hudsonbot |
* Katrin Fischer: BUG 5058: small layout correction of vendor form |
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hudsonbot |
* Katrin Fischer: Bug 5059: Inconsistent use of ordering price and list price in vendor form |
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hudsonbot |
Starting build 149 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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chris |
stuff.co.nz up for people? |
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gmcharlt |
chris: yep |
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chris |
thanks |
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chris |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]out-in-Wellington |
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chris |
this line is scary |
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chris |
The power was cut to the CBD, Te Aro and Mt Cook about 8.30am when a contractor "made contact with an 11kV feeder underground,'' according to Wellington Electricity spokesman Ryan Auger. |
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chris |
thats not something you want to make contact with :) |
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slef |
yeah but it was a contractor |
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slef |
SE London last year, someone tried to steal a live feeder. |
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chris |
did they survive? |
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slef |
as far as we know |
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slef |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/ukfs[…]59600/8159620.stm |
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slef |
I can't find the report that claimed the vandalism was attempted theft. |
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slef |
bbl |
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chris |
poor simon will be having a crap day too |
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chris |
http://citylink.co.nz/status/ |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_Master build #149: SUCCESS in 20 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]/Koha_Master/149/ |
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hudsonbot |
Galen Charlton: bug 5393 [SIGNED-OFF]: add test case to check well-formedness of XML/XSLT files |
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chris |
1924 tests |
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chris |
all passing |
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chris |
we are slowly getting there |
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Brooke |
*cheer* |
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Brooke |
slow and steady wins the race |
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chris |
yes, its much more productive than lets rip everything apart and start again |
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Brooke |
(though slow is not a hallmark of this project. It's more like watch the RM be whipped into a froth.) |
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chris |
and now back to dealing wit the fallout from major outages |
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Brooke |
*comfort* |
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Brooke |
yeah I should go "make" dinner |
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Brooke |
but the cloud is posted. |
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Brooke |
:D |
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