IRC log for #koha, 2010-10-31

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01:28 russel is the hackfest still going?
01:30 russel or has every one gone exploring?  :-)
01:30 wizzyrea we're still here
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01:33 robin_ russel: chris is calling
01:33 russel ta
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01:50 slef moo from nelson
01:58 wizzyrea mooo
01:58 chris hey slef, hows it going?
02:00 hudsonbot Starting build 100 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last STILL UNSTABLE #99 2 hr 36 min ago)
02:01 hudsonbot Starting build 3 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last UNSTABLE #2 4 hr 6 min ago)
02:10 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed!
02:10 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build (3): FIXED in 9 min 12 sec:[…]job/Koha_3.2.x/3/
02:16 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed!
02:16 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build (100): FIXED in 16 min:[…]/Koha_Master/100/
02:18 chris sweet
02:26 chris_n2 !hudson build Koha_3.2.x now
02:26 hudsonbot chris_n2: job Koha_3.2.x build scheduled now
02:26 hudsonbot Starting build 4 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: FIXED)
02:26 wizzyrea @later tell darling I'm well on the way to fixing up the manual... it's not done, but the groundwork is laid, notes are kept, and it'll be done this week.
02:26 munin wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
02:27 nengard wizzyrea++
02:28 nengard hdl manual links work now - just got your message from 3 hours ago :)
02:30 hdl oh... Sorry. that was just to report what i found.
02:30 hdl Thanks nengard and wizzyrea
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02:41 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build (4): SUCCESS in 15 min:[…]job/Koha_3.2.x/4/
02:41 hudsonbot * Robin Sheat: Bug 5322 - Added pwgen dependency
02:41 hudsonbot * Liz Rea: Adding a simple test for
02:41 hudsonbot * Nicole Engard: create unit test files
02:41 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 5327: Add basic unit tests to some C4 modules
02:41 hudsonbot * Magnus Enger: Bug 5327: Add basic unit tests to some C4 modules
02:41 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 5146: patron import files require header row
02:41 hudsonbot * Brian Engard: Create Unit Test for ImportBatch
02:41 hudsonbot * Daniel Grobani: unit test stub for
02:41 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5322 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, pwgen not a dependency for the packages
02:41 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
02:42 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5146 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Patron Import Requires Header Row
02:42 bengard @wunder 19030
02:42 munin bengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is 10.2�C (10:45 PM EDT on October 30, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Steady).
02:42 brendan_l @wunder 93117
02:42 munin brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.2�C (7:54 PM PDT on October 30, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Rising).
02:43 magnus @wunder bodo, norway
02:43 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0�C (3:50 AM CET on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Steady).
02:43 danielg @wunder 94114
02:43 munin danielg: The current temperature in Castro/San Francisco, San Francisco, California is 14.5�C (7:45 PM PDT on October 30, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Rising).
02:43 nengard @wunder wellington, new zealand
02:43 munin nengard: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (2:00 PM NZDT on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Steady).
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03:34 brendan_l all you hackers getting out of there around 5ish?
03:37 robin_ I think just when people decide to leave
03:41 hdl anyone know what merge_help branch on git repo is about ?
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06:44 wasabi[…]le_sues_motorola/
06:45 wasabi yay for apple :/
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07:52 chris hdl: its help files for biblio merging, pushed up for qa
07:52 chris they should pass and ill merge them in
07:52 chris and remove the branch
07:53 hdl sorry ? we'll talk about that tomorrow ?
07:53 hdl oh yes... I saw that.
07:53 chris cool
07:54 hdl I poked at the branch on gitweb ;)
07:54 hdl thx chris.
07:54 hdl Thank you for the day.
07:59 chris no problem
08:02 chris[…]2157625236896938/  <-- this photo makes me sad
08:06 cait me too :(
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09:08 ivanc hi #koha
09:09 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327: Add unit test for <[…]9b676913ad3456cb7>
09:17 hudsonbot Starting build 101 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED)
09:33 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build (101): SUCCESS in 15 min:[…]/Koha_Master/101/
09:33 hudsonbot Nate Curulla: Bug 5327: Add unit test for
09:33 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
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16:28 brendan morning all
16:28 brendan pretty cool I wake up to find that Nate has submitted a patch/unit test
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16:47 mib_itlk9 hello
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17:21 cait morning #koha
17:28 brendan morning cait
17:57 cait morning brendan
17:57 * cait is packing
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18:20 chris Morning
18:20 brendan morning chris
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18:26 chris Hi paul_p, just on the bus on the way in
18:26 paul_p hi chris.  Skyping with family ;-)
18:27 chris Gorgeous weather today
18:27 paul_p 3rd day of continued rain in Marseille
18:27 chris Good day for cable car
18:27 chris Ahh rain is not fun
18:31 cait morning chris
18:31 * cait is packing :(
18:31 chris Heya cait
18:32 chris :(
18:32 chris What time is your flight?
18:33 cait 15:25
18:33 chris Time for a little bit of shopping first eh?
18:35 cait yeah and breakfast with paul and henri
18:35 cait but better not go shopping...
18:35 * cait is looking at piles of things on her hotel bed
18:35 chris :)
18:38 larsw it's fairly cheap to send stuff via snail mail from NZ ;-)
18:39 chris True :)
18:43 brendan @wunder 93117
18:43 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.3�C (11:56 AM PDT on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Falling).
18:44 chris @wunder wellington nz
18:44 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 01, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady).
18:47 chris Bbiab
18:49 cait hmpf!
18:49 cait ;)
18:49 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:49 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 10.0�C (8:00 PM CET on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.55 in 1000 hPa (Rising).
18:59 * chris clocks in from work
19:05 cait hm
19:05 cait perhaps... perhaps it will all fit in
19:06 cait paul_p: still around?
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19:09 cait hm, breakfast time
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19:19 chris_n2 @wunder 28334
19:19 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 24.2�C (3:31 PM EDT on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1000.9 hPa (Steady).
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19:38 richard hi
19:38 chris hiya richard
19:39 munin New commit(s) kohagit: remove extraneous semicolon <[…]11d11341313423f29> / Updated links in Main Page Help <[…]e7cc484f8fa94cba3>
19:39 richard hey chris
19:47 hudsonbot Starting build 102 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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20:03 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build (102): SUCCESS in 15 min:[…]/Koha_Master/102/
20:03 hudsonbot * Brian Engard: Updated links in Main Page Help
20:03 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: remove extraneous semicolon
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20:03 chris this patch by Doug Kingston looks good, hopefully get QA to check it soon
20:03 chris how was breakfast cait ?
20:03 cait it was very yummy
20:04 cait now the last 2 real koha people are gone :(
20:04 chris ?
20:04 cait had breakfast with paul and henri and had to say goodbye to them now too
20:04 chris ahhh
20:04 cait is Doug a new committer too?
20:04 chris he will be
20:05 chris Nate last night too
20:05 chris so 4 new ones in the last 4 days
20:07 cait makes the historian happy ;)
20:08 slef moo
20:09 cait hi slef
20:09 cait how was the ferry?
20:10 slef cool
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20:10 cait chris: I have a new patch for unit tests ready
20:10 slef hope it's as good or better going back - was "moderate 33km/h SE" out
20:10 cait some of them are failing
20:12 cait chris: want me to send the patch to the list or to you? for sign-off?
20:18 slef bbl
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20:33 chris List is fine
20:34 cait ah
20:34 cait ok, some are failing, not sure, which is for user input or missing module
20:35 cait just a warning, but want to send them before I leave
20:37 chris Cool
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20:41 wasabi morning
20:42 wasabi ... a sizzling power-box last nite, has keep the net down for me
20:42 wasabi murphy's timing
20:43 cait morning mason
20:43 wasabi heya cait , still in wgtn?
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20:44 cait yep, but leaving today
20:44 chris_n hey wasabi
20:44 chris_n && cait
20:44 cait hi chris_n
20:44 * cait is trying to get everything into her suitcase right now
20:44 cait what happens if it is too heavy? *worried*
20:44 wasabi ha, the suitcase game :)
20:44 chris_n extra $$ iirc
20:44 cait hmpf
20:45 cait I hope it will be ok...
20:46 * chris_n carried on a 45+ kg piece of luggage back in 2000 and was not told not to nor charged a dime
20:46 chris_n but times have changed
20:46 cait 45kg???
20:47 cait did you buy stones here?
20:47 cait gold?
20:48 chris_n heh... well I had several Toledo swords which I packed together and checked and so had to carry everything else
20:48 wasabi cait: the suitecase will prolly be fine
20:48 * chris_n thinks its better to check the swords and carry on the luggage :-P
20:49 cait chris: patch sent
20:50 chris_n although 45 kilos of gold would be nice also :)
20:52 wasabi ok, i need to do this stuff, now my net is back...
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20:59 chris Hi sekjal
20:59 sekjal morning, chris
20:59 sekjal I'm on level 3
20:59 chris Cool did you talk with Donovan?
21:00 brendan hi sekjal
21:01 sekjal Christina
21:01 sekjal hey, brendan
21:02 chris Sweet
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21:11 pauln hi all, still hackfesting?
21:11 sekjal pauln: hackfest is officially over, but some of us are still at it
21:12 sekjal Catalyst has been kind enough to let me use their facilities today
21:12 pauln Good work - any ideas why I can't get new staff members staff client log on to work
21:13 sekjal pauln: do they have permissions?
21:13 sekjal and are they of a patron category that is the 'staff' type?
21:14 pauln yes - just changed a couple of volunteers from adult to staff and set permissions
21:15 chris Can they login to the opac?
21:15 pauln Yes that worked - louise whittam - 200014603
21:16 chris I'm betting its a permissions thing then, ill see if I can spot it
21:16 cait pauln: there is one permissionI think that you always need to access the staff cient, I think it was catalog or something like that
21:17 chris 2 secs
21:18 pauln cait - yes I had missed that one
21:18 wasabi that one -> 'catalogue  View Catalogue (Librarian Interface)'
21:18 pauln works now, thanks
21:18 cait :)
21:19 cait ok all, have to go now
21:20 cait @wunder Konstan
21:20 munin cait: Error: No such location could be found.
21:20 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:20 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.2�C (10:35 PM CET on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1000.9 hPa (Steady).
21:21 cait @wunder Wellington
21:21 munin cait: Error: No such location could be found.
21:21 cait @wunder wellington nz
21:21 munin cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on November 01, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady).
21:21 cait hmpf.
21:21 cait hope to see you all soon
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21:39 hdl chris: have you investigated in[…]ib/Devel/
21:39 hdl ?
21:40 chris yeah, thats where i started, i think its the best place to look
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21:47 dafydd Think I may have found a bug: when importing a MARC record with a single name
21:47 dafydd As in, the band "Weezer"
21:50 sekjal had an idea this morning:  run a script on C4 to find all the 'use C4::' statements in each module, and create a simple file of that info
21:51 sekjal then pass it through a network diagram mapper so we can visually see which modules are calling which
21:51 sekjal find loops, redundancies, etc
21:51 chris that would be perfect
21:51 brendan yup any diagrams would be really helpful
21:51 sekjal anyone know a good tool for me to look at first?
21:52 sekjal would dia or netdraw do the trick?
21:52 robin sekjal: graphvis for the rendering
21:52 sekjal robin: cool, will investigate
21:52 robin just write a script that outputs .dot files that graphvis (graphviz?) can read. It's pretty easy.
21:53 robin also have a look in debian/list-deps
21:53 robin it might give you useful ideas
21:54 sekjal great, thanks!
21:54 robin (or it might not, I make no promises :)
21:54 sekjal I'm grateful for a starting place
21:54 sekjal I know there must be tools; just got to find them
21:54 sekjal thankfully, I'm a librarian.  I find stuff
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22:13 chris hey wizzyrea_
22:13 wizzyrea_ heya
22:14 * gmcharlt is testing the batch revert patch now, has at least one correction in the works
22:15 chris thanks for testing
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23:03 wizzyrea_ paul_p: re: the patron duplicate, is it supposed to generate a card number for the new patron?
23:04 wizzyrea_ (the first new patron I added had an auto generated card number)
23:04 brendan_l heya wizzyrea_
23:04 wizzyrea_ hi
23:04 wizzyrea_ (nap time, thought I'd poke at some of biblibre's features)
23:06 wizzyrea_ ooo I think I found a bug.
23:07 jcamins_a Is anyone else getting messages from four days ago?
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23:07 wizzyrea_ hey nengard
23:07 nengard Hiya
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23:08 jcamins Hello.
23:08 jcamins Kind of.
23:08 nengard Sitting on the floor at chris's desk
23:09 wizzyrea_ :)
23:09 nengard Where are u wizzyrea?
23:09 wizzyrea_ our hotel, it's naptime
23:09 nengard :)
23:10 sekjal okay, lunch time!
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23:12 brendan_l have a good lunch everyone
23:12 brendan_l almost time to hand out candies here
23:14 * jcamins is being a scrooge and not handing out candy.
23:14 * gmcharlt is eating dinner and is keeping the outside lights off for the moment
23:15 * jcamins also lives on the second floor with a cat, so tossing candy out the window isn't an option, and going to the door isn't either.
23:18 wizzyrea_ totally loving biblibre's new patron detail
23:18 wizzyrea_ it's hawt
23:19 wizzyrea_ http://borrowers34.git.biblibr[…]borrowernumber=55
23:19 wizzyrea_ test/test
23:20 gmcharlt looks good
23:21 wizzyrea_ I just added some more data to that record
23:21 wizzyrea_ if you refresh
23:21 wizzyrea_ check the left sidebar: hide/show address
23:21 wizzyrea_ that's neato
23:21 wizzyrea_ nice privacy feature
23:22 gmcharlt not much of one, though, on that particular page
23:22 wizzyrea_ not on the detail, no
23:22 gmcharlt the patron address is also right there on the 'base' tab :)
23:22 wizzyrea_ but on the checkout screen it is
23:23 wizzyrea_ and any of the other tabs
23:23 jcamins I've never used patrons, really, but it looks very nifty.
23:23 jcamins wizzyrea_: no one worked on the simple cataloging interface, right?
23:24 gmcharlt jcamins: have you published a branch for it?  if so, where?
23:24 wizzyrea_ idk, that's not the stuff in this install anyway
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23:24 jcamins gmcharlt: yeah,[…]simple_cataloging
23:25 jcamins wizzyrea_: no, I knew that BibLibre had their hands full.
23:25 wizzyrea_ oo, gonna try that purchase suggestion view next
23:26 jcamins I'm trying to psych myself up to make a bit more progress on it, because if I had something a little more concrete by Tuesday, that would be good.
23:28 jcamins And by "a little more concrete" I mean "something I could put on a public server without making my entire database effectively world-writeable.
23:29 gmcharlt jcamins: you're missing a chance for truly global cooperative cataloging ;)
23:29 jcamins gmcharlt: but I don't need catalog records for medications!
23:30 gmcharlt jcamins++
23:30 jcamins Nor virii.
23:30 jcamins gmcharlt: I take it you finally slogged through my Moby Dick-length commit messages?
23:31 gmcharlt jcamins: I *like* detailed commit messages, no worries there
23:31 jcamins I couldn't really have left anything out, because I don't think people will be figuring out what the heck I was doing on my own.
23:31 jcamins *their own
23:32 * jcamins will not be speaking intelligibly. ;)
23:37 gmcharlt jcamins: a minor note about that branch - all new code should 'use warnings;' - thinking of authorities/, in particular
23:37 jcamins I will add that.
23:38 jcamins was written around 2 in the morning.
23:39 gmcharlt and as you already know, needs an auth check
23:39 jcamins Yeah, I'm reading C4/ now.
23:39 jcamins The problem is that authorization is tied in to Template::Pro.
23:40 jcamins At least, the way it's usually used is.
23:41 jcamins Maybe I can use checkauth...
23:43 gmcharlt right
23:51 jcamins What does use warnings do?
23:51 jcamins Or, rather, what should it do?
23:55 gmcharlt use warnings turns on additional checks on the code by the perl interpreter
23:55 gmcharlt very useful
23:55 jcamins But I mean, shouldn't I get some errors?

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