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ebegin |
in a item record, what the Shelving control number is used for? |
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wasabi |
ebegin: pass, google has some OK answers.... |
| 01:19 |
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wasabi |
its the item-level equiv. of a bib's 852$j ? |
| 01:20 |
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wasabi |
http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]c/nlr/nlr8xx.html |
| 01:21 |
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ebegin |
Oh! Thanks wasabi. I'll check that. I never noted that there was that field for a bib,. |
| 01:23 |
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ebegin |
Hmmm... Funny! my MARC reference (in french) doesn't give any description of that field... the first time I see this in this reference... |
| 01:24 |
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wasabi |
remember that url is the MARC21/US-MARC flavour... |
| 01:24 |
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slef |
@marc 852 j |
| 01:24 |
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munin |
slef: Shelving control number |
| 01:24 |
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slef |
hah! |
| 01:25 |
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ebegin |
Hey, I like that plugin!!! first time I see that |
| 01:25 |
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wasabi |
too clever slef++ |
| 01:25 |
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ebegin |
wasabi, I'm using MARC21 too. |
| 01:25 |
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slef |
Who controls hudson and when will they be here? |
| 01:25 |
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robin |
slef: I think it's chris, and he's not at his desk at the moment |
| 01:26 |
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slef |
robin: if I get eaten by a grue before he returns, can you ask him to switch option git.authorOrCommitter over, please? |
| 01:26 |
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wasabi |
heya robin, thanks again for all your deb-packaging work! |
| 01:27 |
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robin |
slef: OK |
| 01:27 |
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robin |
wasabi: you're welcome :) I'm hoping to get time soon to work on language support for the packages. |
| 01:28 |
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slef |
I'm trying to set up some more reliable feedback about patch acceptance than me remembering to compare the git log against my submissions. |
| 01:28 |
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wasabi |
its something i want to work-on/learn too... |
| 01:28 |
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robin |
slef: ah yes, I'd like something like that too. Doing it manually is a bit error-prone. |
| 01:29 |
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robin |
wasabi: yeah, hopefully I'll be setting up a Koha instance in Spanish soon, and I'll probably be using the packages to do this, so want to be abke to make 'apt-get install koha-language-es' work. |
| 01:29 |
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wasabi |
something = deb-packaging |
| 01:30 |
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robin |
wasabi: ah right :) |
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wasabi |
gotcha |
| 01:30 |
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robin |
I had it easier, larsw set them up in the first place, now I'm just maintaining them. |
| 01:30 |
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robin |
Although, that's getting more complex as we're approaching release. |
| 01:31 |
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robin |
Need to do some prep for that, too. |
| 01:32 |
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slef |
robin: my idea is if hudsonbot mentions commit authors as the patches hit it, then my IRC monitoring will let me know. |
| 01:32 |
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robin |
ah yes, that's pretty simple and useful |
| 01:34 |
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robin |
chris: look up :) |
| 01:35 |
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chris |
ill give it a crack |
| 01:35 |
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slef |
ta |
| 01:36 |
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slef |
is the state of the art of patch tracking on the wiki? |
| 01:36 |
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chris |
dont think so |
| 01:37 |
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slef |
someone was telling me about a new git tracking package... forgot its name already though :-/ |
| 01:39 |
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chris |
right should be done now |
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chris |
slef: this was my idea |
| 01:39 |
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chris |
http://patches.workbuffer.org/ |
| 01:40 |
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chris |
but i dunno if i like it |
| 01:40 |
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slef |
hrm, I don't see an obvious change in Hudson yet... maybe it'll be after next patch hits |
| 01:40 |
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chris |
yeah it builds the changeset only after changes |
| 01:40 |
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chris |
so next commit should kick it off |
| 01:41 |
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slef |
chris: patches... is one way to do it |
| 01:41 |
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slef |
does the status monitoring bit of it |
| 01:41 |
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slef |
I think the other part of the puzzle is giving feedback to authors and reviewers |
| 01:41 |
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chris |
yup |
| 01:42 |
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slef |
For status, there's topgit and stgit and whatever that other one was called. Not sure if any of those help to send feedback. |
| 01:43 |
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chris |
yeah, i looked at those, they look pretty heavy to set up |
| 01:44 |
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chris |
3 more conference registrations today |
| 01:44 |
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slef |
I guess one obvious simple option is something in the RM's or main repo's hooks to send email. Another is anyone who care's subscribes to gitweb's RSS feeds. |
| 01:44 |
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slef |
lose an ' |
| 01:45 |
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chris |
yup |
| 01:45 |
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slef |
anyway, something like http://patches.workbuffer.org/ is a big help in checking status |
| 01:45 |
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slef |
why don't you like it? |
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chris |
cos im not sure ill have the time to keep it all up to date |
| 01:46 |
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chris |
something more automagic might win |
| 01:47 |
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slef |
an incoming branch on a repo, perhaps? |
| 01:47 |
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chris |
yeah that might work |
| 01:48 |
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slef |
if you cherry-pick from incoming into HEAD, git does the right thing, doesn't it? |
| 01:48 |
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chris |
yup |
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chris |
problem is, you really need lots of incoming branches, because patches conflict sometimes |
| 01:49 |
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slef |
I thought it did, but I mess up often, as yesterday demonstrated. |
| 01:50 |
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slef |
Why's that a problem? |
| 01:50 |
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slef |
Probably possible to semi-automate the simple cases of creation and deletion. |
| 01:52 |
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slef |
I think what's missing is being able to confirm that the RM knows about a patch and has it on the todo. Any way to do that is fine. |
| 01:53 |
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chris |
yeah |
| 01:55 |
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slef |
wiki, text file, ... |
| 01:56 |
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slef |
just stop us bugging people about patches we submitted :) |
| 01:56 |
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chris |
i think wiki will do |
| 01:56 |
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slef |
or getting depressed when they appear ignored (as happened to me with a certain past RM) |
| 01:57 |
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chris |
once this conference is out of my hair ill start doing that |
| 01:57 |
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slef |
I think danger with using the main wiki is others messing with your status. |
| 01:57 |
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chris |
true, but i watch the rss feed of changes, ill see it happening :) |
| 01:57 |
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chris |
maybe ill use lars ikiwiki branchable thing |
| 01:58 |
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chris |
http://www.branchable.com/ |
| 01:58 |
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slef |
might be worth you using that tiny in-browser wiki (I'll get the name in a mo) so only you can edit it |
| 01:58 |
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robin |
tikiwiki |
| 01:58 |
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slef |
I thought that was it. |
| 01:58 |
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slef |
So what's the perl CGI one with a similar name? |
| 01:59 |
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robin |
hmm. Not sure |
| 02:01 |
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slef |
TWiki |
| 02:01 |
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slef |
found it after a while |
| 02:07 |
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slef |
I know. Let's rewrite koha in the rc shell. http://werc.cat-v.org/ |
| 02:08 |
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slef |
I like (and use) rc, but that's scary. |
| 02:11 |
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chris |
you pretty much are on nz time now eh slef |
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chris |
its what 3.21am? |
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slef |
yeah, I'm about to drop |
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slef |
the fly in the ointment is I have a meeting on Monday :) |
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chris |
yikes |
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slef |
bbl |
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Oak |
\o |
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Amit |
heya chris |
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ebegin |
I like to work late on night. It gives me the opportunity to remember that koha community is spread over all the timezones ;) |
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ebegin |
Would it be a good idea for a library to keep only MARC field that are copied from an authority? |
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ebegin |
I means, if only subfield from 100 are copied from a PERSONAL NAME authority type, why should we have all other fields in the auth record? |
| 04:06 |
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wasabi |
better to have the full auth-record, than a lossy version, i think |
| 04:07 |
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ebegin |
Hmmm... good point. I was just thinking of the part that was copied in the bib. But the autority information still usefull... |
| 04:08 |
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ebegin |
wasabi++ |
| 04:24 |
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ebegin |
A quick question.. Are there some Z39.50 servers from which we could pull Authority records? I know that Koha doesn't allow that, but would that be technically possible? |
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Braedon |
ebegin: as far as i am aware, yes |
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ebegin |
I think that would be cool... |
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Braedon |
there are a huge number of opern Z39.50 servers. I doubt all don't allow authority records, but i have not checked |
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Braedon |
that said, i am not entirely certain that Z39.50 supports authorities... I thought i remember reading it does, but a quick Google search has shaken that a bit... |
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saqi |
hi |
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saqi |
can any one help me |
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| 05:48 |
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robin |
You'll have to ask your question first, otherwise how could we know? :) |
| 05:49 |
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saqi |
Use of uninitialized value $lang in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Output.pm line 86. |
| 05:49 |
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saqi |
i am getting the errors |
| 05:50 |
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saqi |
while running koha on Debian |
| 05:50 |
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robin |
That doesn't look familiar to me. Which version of Koha? |
| 05:52 |
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saqi |
LibLime's Harley realese |
| 05:53 |
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saqi |
3.01.00.061 |
| 05:53 |
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robin |
ah. Not many people have experience with that, as it's quite different to normal Koha. |
| 05:53 |
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robin |
My suggestion would be to try with the official version from here: http://koha-community.org/ |
| 05:54 |
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robin |
either 3.06 (stable version), or if you're keen 3.2 (which will be stable soon) |
| 05:54 |
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saqi |
what do you suggest |
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saqi |
ok sir |
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robin |
It's also more likely that someone will know how to help you if you're using one of those. |
| 05:56 |
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saqi |
right |
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robin |
Hope it works better for you :) |
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saqi |
Thank you so much |
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saqi |
can you giv me your msn id pls ?? |
| 06:07 |
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robin |
I don't use MSN. The best place to ask for help is this channel. |
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saqi |
ook Boss |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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magnus |
g'day Ropuch, bigbrovar & #koha! |
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Ropuch |
Hello [; |
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bigbrovar |
Its 7am here, hope its safe to say good morning |
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bigbrovar |
Hi guys am trying to migrate my library from a shreadsheet based catalog to marc21 and koha. I am currently mapping their catalogs to marc21 (which am still learning cus am just a sysadmin not a librarian) which koha holding tags can I use for number of copies for an item. is that what 952$9 (Koha Itemnumber) is for? (sorry if my question sound very noobish ) |
| 06:47 |
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robin |
bigbrovar: I've done that before. You want to replicate 952 according the the number of items you have. |
| 06:47 |
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robin |
so, one 952 tag per item |
| 06:49 |
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magnus |
see also http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
| 06:50 |
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bigbrovar |
robin: thanks but which subfield do I use with 952? I am using marcedit for mapping.. and I am trying to map the excell category "number of copies" |
| 06:51 |
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robin |
You don't just put the value somewhere, it has to be a new 952 with its subfields for every item |
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bigbrovar |
robin: yeah that is what marcedit does, it adds the 952 to every item on the spreadsheet. I am just trying to guess which subfield to use with 952 something which concerns the number of copies available for a particular item (maybe am looking at it the wrong way) |
| 06:58 |
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magnus |
bigbrovar: say you have ten copies of the same edition of "Lord of the Rings". You should then have one record, with 952 and it's subfields repeated 10 times. You don't store the number 10 anywhere. |
| 06:58 |
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robin |
bigbrovar: exactly what magnus just said :) |
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bigbrovar |
robin: magnus: hmm trying to figure out how to achieve that while maping from excel to marc21 using marcedit (has anyone of you used marcedit before?) This is the spreedsheet column for number of item copies http://www.flickr.com/photos/b[…]ovar2/5080681272/ and this is the marcedit tool which I want to use in mapping that column to marc21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/b[…]ovar2/5080681458/ |
| 07:11 |
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chris |
well thats a fairly random email |
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magnus |
chris: Strong Perl Developer? |
| 07:13 |
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chris |
yeah and Koha spelt wrong :) |
| 07:14 |
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magnus |
chris: yeah, knew you would like that... ;-) |
| 07:16 |
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magnus |
bigbrovar: i have no experience with marcedit, sadly, but you just add the number of copies (952s) that correspond to that number. how you add the copies, i don't know... :-( |
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ivanc |
hi #koha |
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bigbrovar |
ok thanks. u have been helpful indeed :) |
| 07:28 |
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wasabi |
http://www.sentosatech.com/Ontology_Works.html |
| 07:28 |
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wasabi |
looks enigmatic?!? |
| 07:29 |
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wasabi |
noSQL? |
| 07:31 |
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chris |
should drop him an email wasabi |
| 07:31 |
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chris |
getting paid in USD wouldnt be a bad thing :) |
| 07:31 |
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wasabi |
*blushes* |
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Ropuch |
Hello chris |
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chris |
hi Ropuch |
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wasabi |
http://www.impactprowrestling.co.nz/ |
| 07:41 |
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wasabi |
w0w, i never knew... |
| 07:43 |
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wasabi |
http://www.impactprowrestling.[…]w&id=92&Itemid=86 |
| 07:43 |
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wasabi |
Signature Moves: Double Back Elbow, Double Elbow Combo Drop |
| 07:44 |
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paul_p |
D-5 |
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magnus |
paul_p: yay! ;-) |
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Ropuch |
Hm, I'm little confused with translate.koha.org and translate.koha-community.org |
| 07:57 |
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magnus |
Ropuch: i think translate.koha.org is the current site. translate.koha-community.org will be used when 3.2 is out |
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Ropuch |
Kk |
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magnus |
chris still around? someone asked about a list of attendees for kohacon the other day - any chance of that? just curious... ;-) |
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magnus |
hello, goodbye... ;-) |
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David |
Hello all! |
| 09:16 |
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braedon|h |
Hello David! |
| 09:17 |
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David |
I'm very new to Koha, but am excited and trying to get it installed. I've run into a few problems though. I'm on Debian Lenny and following the Intall.DebianLenny included with the newest version from the website (not git). |
| 09:18 |
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braedon|h |
which website? |
| 09:18 |
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David |
Is it possible to install without sendmail? |
| 09:18 |
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braedon|h |
koha.org or koha-community.org? |
| 09:18 |
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David |
http://koha.org/ (http://downloads.ptfsinc.com/h[…]nslations.tar.gz) |
| 09:18 |
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David |
Which should I have done? |
| 09:18 |
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braedon|h |
ahh |
| 09:18 |
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braedon|h |
harley is not an official Koha release |
| 09:19 |
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braedon|h |
it is a fork from ptfs |
| 09:19 |
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braedon|h |
you are more likely to be able to get help from the general community if you use an official community release, from koha-community.org |
| 09:20 |
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David |
ah. is Harley not an open source version? |
| 09:20 |
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braedon|h |
i'm not sure of its exact licence araingment, but it is not provided by the Koha open source community at least |
| 09:20 |
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braedon|h |
it is provided by the company PTFS/LibLime |
| 09:21 |
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David |
ah, thank you for clarifying the situation! Is the rc pretty stable or should I be lookign for the last stable version? |
| 09:22 |
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braedon|h |
i believe a number of deployments of it are being used, but obviously until it is officially released... |
| 09:23 |
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braedon|h |
probably depends if/when you are going to putting a deployment into production |
| 09:24 |
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braedon|h |
3.0.x is theoretically more stable, but 3.2.0 has desirable features. If you need to put something stable into production very soon, perhaps stick with 3.0.x |
| 09:24 |
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braedon|h |
if you have a bit of leeway in time or stability, 3.2.0 probably better |
| 09:25 |
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braedon|h |
as for your specific query on sendmail, alas i am not sure. Hopefully someone else can clarify that |
| 09:26 |
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braedon|h |
i remember seeing something on the mailing list recently about sendmail - perhaps that could be useful? |
| 09:29 |
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David |
Thank you so much! |
| 09:29 |
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David |
zebra is not required strictly right |
| 09:31 |
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David |
ps -aux |
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David |
woops, lol |
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braedon|h |
technically, but highly recomended |
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braedon|h |
i have had nothing but issues with no zebra |
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David |
This is just for a "testing' enviroment to make certain that I have the technically ability to install it |
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magnus |
David: then i would go for the 3.2RC1- it's the future! And install Zebra, it's not that hard... ;-) |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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magnus |
hiya cait! |
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Barrc |
Anyone around? Just starting to look at 3.2RC and wondering if Debian Squeeze is needed? Conflicting install notes regarding this |
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cait |
Barrc: you can install koha on different os - we use ubuntu for example |
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cait |
but debian is perhaps easiest |
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Barrc |
Sorry, I should have asked the question better! I only use Debian and up until now, 3.x has been fine with Lenny, however the new installDebian notes suggest Lenny isn't supported? |
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Barrc |
only Squeeze |
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cait |
the packages are in sqeeze |
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cait |
so you can install koha a lot easier using apt get (I have not tried it yet) |
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magnus |
Barrc: if you want to do "sudo apt-get install koha" you need squeeze |
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Barrc |
Ah.....that makes sense......so no support for Apt on Lenny.....got it now......thanks |
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cait |
but if you have already installed 3.x you can update |
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cait |
easily too |
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Barrc |
Yeah, I am going to test an upgrade as well but might aswell start off a fresh install first. I will have to try everything eventually! |
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Oak |
still getting Forbidden on web server. koha_error_log says: [error] [client 127.0.0.1] client denied by server configuration: /var/www/htdocs/arslan/koha/intranet/htdocs/ |
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Oak |
Last night I installed Koha and selected 'standard' (the first question when you run perl Makefile.PL)... where I should have selected 'sing;e' |
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Oak |
* 'single' |
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cait |
Oak: standard is normally ok, a lot of people use dev |
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cait |
I have never used single, not sure about the difference |
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Oak |
now I have selected 'single' and installed... |
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Oak |
can I pastebin my koha-httpd.conf file and you can have a look? |
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Oak |
and httpd.conf also |
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Oak |
even normal web server gives forbidden now, I mean http://localhost says Forbidden, if I un-comment the Include /...../koha-httpd.conf file then my Web server starts working... |
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Oak |
... if I un-comment the Include /...../koha-httpd.conf file from /etc/httpd.conf I meant |
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Oak |
could it be caused by my firewall settings> |
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David |
Oak: what system are you running on? if Apache2, I think you should be using a2ensite |
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David |
So... sendmail required? |
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Oak |
Slackware 13.1 |
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slef |
hi all |
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David |
Sorry Oak no experience in slackware |
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Oak |
ok |
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slef |
I'm not current on slackware, but Forbidden should leave more info than just Forbidden. |
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slef |
If it's an apache error, look at the apache error logs for more info. |
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Oak |
You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/koha/search.pl on this server. |
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Oak |
Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. |
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francharb |
re |
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slef |
Oak, look at the *log file* not the browser. |
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slef |
The log may say *why* you don't have permission. |
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Oak |
ok |
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slef |
gmcharlt: is there a reason the patch to close bug 5128 isn't applied? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5128 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Define default 9xx fields for Unimarc setup in all languages |
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Oak |
slef, [error] [client 127.0.0.1] (13)Permission denied: access to /cgi-bin/koha/errors/403.pl denied |
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slef |
Oak: and the line before that? |
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Oak |
[error] [client 127.0.0.1] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied |
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slef |
Oak: about search.pl |
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slef |
Oak: I think there's some disagreement between your <Directory ...> sections in your apache setup and your koha-httpd.conf - that would be an apache problem not a Koha problem so you might be better off asking in other forums or reading http://httpd.apache.org/ |
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slef |
Oak: but basically |
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cait |
slef: there was some discussion on the koha-patches malinglist about bug 5218 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5218 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, Add RFC822 Date Formatting to C4::Dates |
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cait |
see here: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]October/date.html |
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slef |
Oak: if you have some <Directory />(things being deny-ed or Options -ExecCGI)</Directory> then you need <Directory /path/to/koha> section to switch it back on - but koha-httpd.conf should contain that, so I'm confused. |
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slef |
cait: bug 5128 not 5218 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5128 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Define default 9xx fields for Unimarc setup in all languages |
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cait |
typo |
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slef |
yeah, I see now |
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cait |
but the mailing list is about 5128 |
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cait |
:) |
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slef |
starts at http://lists.koha-community.or[…]tober/012618.html |
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hdl |
slef ? |
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slef |
cait: thanks |
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slef |
hdl: how can we view the patches you intend to apply? |
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gmcharlt |
slef: umm, ok - which one are you asking about |
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* gmcharlt |
confused |
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cait |
slef: no problem. afaik the problem is that it will break things for people already using unimarc and koha |
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* slef |
links that thread from the bug |
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hdl |
where ? |
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* cait |
sets a big box of chocolate in the middle of #koha |
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slef |
hdl: how can we view the patches you intend to apply to 3.0.x? |
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* slef |
kicks cait for trying to poison him :) |
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Oak |
slef, http://www.pastie.org/1220600 |
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slef |
hdl: is http://lists.koha-community.or[…]tober/012631.html waiting for you to reply? |
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cait |
huh? |
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cait |
ouch |
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cait |
slef: you don't like chocolate? |
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slef |
cait: it doesn't like me |
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slef |
Oak: looking... |
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Oak |
thanks |
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cait |
slef: oh... |
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hdl |
slef there was no real patch list or queue defined the time we started. |
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slef |
Oak: line 33 of Intranet mentions /usr/share/koha but you seem to be installed in /home/silas/koha - that disagreement needs resolving. |
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hdl |
On git.biblibre/".0.x you have all the biblibre patches intended to pass. |
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Oak |
crap |
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Oak |
let me see |
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slef |
hdl: yeah, I'm not ever so fussed about biblibre patches because I assumed you are tracking them. Where are you noting other patches intended to pass? |
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Oak |
ok slef, but why am I getting same 403 Forbidden error on http://localhost/ ? When I un-comment the koha-httpd.conf Include line from httpd.conf, my webserver at least starts working again. So there must something wrong with my koha-httpd.conf file |
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Oak |
sorry, not un-comment |
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Oak |
* comment |
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Oak |
comment out the Include line for koha-httpd.conf |
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Oak |
one thing, I was unable to install these dependencies: GD, Net::Z3950::ZOOM and PDF::Reuse::Barcode |
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Oak |
gives some error saying I'll have to 'force' installation |
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slef |
Oak: ok, looking again. |
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slef |
Oak: those install failures seem unrelated. You're not even getting that far. |
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Oak |
ok |
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slef |
Oak: at a glance, I think the reason why it works without koha-httpd.conf is that you have no other VirtualHosts, so if they are not defined then you get default behaviour, but if they are defined, then koha's opac VirtualHost becomes http://localhost/ as well as http://bluestar/ |
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Oak |
i see |
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slef |
Oak: if you ask httpd to DUMP_VHOSTS it should explain that to you (check manual for exact command but I think it's: httpd -S) |
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Oak |
oh yes, I tried that command last night |
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slef |
try it with and without the Include koha-httpd.conf working to see the difference in default behaviour |
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Oak |
http://www.pastie.org/1220628 |
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Oak |
ok now I'll try without the koha-http.conf |
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Oak |
without the koha-httpd.conf included, it just says: VirtualHost configuration: (then nothing in this line, on next line, says: Syntax OK) |
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slef |
so that's why it changes - your default settings used without the koha-http.conf are no longer accessible with it. Have you sorted out the /usr/share v /home/silas thing? |
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slef |
bbl |
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Oak |
yes |
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Oak |
I sorted that one |
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hdl |
slef: 3.2 codebase and 3.0 is really different. |
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hdl |
So that atm, I apply only 3.0 specific patches. |
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jcamins_a |
Good morning, #koha |
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jcamins |
Interesting e-mail. |
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magnus |
jcamins: which one? |
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jcamins |
The one looking for a KOHA [sic] developer. |
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magnus |
oh yeah |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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munin |
gmcharlt: Quote #49: "wizzyrea: KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 11:20 AM, December 22, 2009) |
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slef |
hdl: but where can we see which non-biblibre patches you are considering? |
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Oak |
slef !!!!!!! |
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slef |
hi yeah I'm back |
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slef |
jcamins: I mailed them off-list and suggested it's Koha FWIW |
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Oak |
in httpd.conf under <Directory /> </Directory> I commented out ' Deny from all ' and it fixed the Forbidden 403 error |
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Oak |
now I am getting this: http://www.pastie.org/1220749 |
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slef |
Oak: ok, now you need to install those missing modules. |
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Oak |
but they give error |
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Oak |
should I force them? |
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slef |
no, you should fix the error |
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Oak |
or pastebin you what they say |
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Oak |
ok |
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slef |
Oak: long-term, you probably want deny from all in a <Directory /> section but to override it for /home/salis/koha |
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Oak |
aah |
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slef |
but that's a priorities and configuration order and so on... puzzle... apache not koha |
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Oak |
ok |
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slef |
Oak: I suspect the problem for ZOOM is that you need to install libyaz-dev or whatever slackware calls it |
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Oak |
I did install yaq |
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Oak |
yaz |
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Oak |
http://slackbuilds.org/reposit[…].1/libraries/yaz/ |
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slef |
Oh. What's the installation error message? |
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Oak |
I installed that one |
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Oak |
ok wait |
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slef |
wait a mo... that's yaz 4... I thought I read something about that not working with ZOOM yet |
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slef |
but I might be wrong or out-of-date |
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Oak |
oh |
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Barrc |
Can anyone think why the Location would be blank in the Details page in OPAC and Staff but not when I edit the item information screen? It's 3.06 and I'm just preparing to upgrade to 3.2 |
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slef |
You can probably make progress by searching the web (or maybe just the koha mailing lists) for any installation error you're getting, but problems installing Koha's prerequisites aren't Koha problems either, so help here might be limited. |
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slef |
Barrc: missing Koha-MARC mapping links maybe? Have you run the test? |
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Oak |
ok thank you |
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Barrc |
slef: Which test? |
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Oak |
slef, if you get bored, you can look at the error I ma getting for ZOOM... http://www.pastie.org/1220774 |
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Barrc |
Koha-Marc mappings seem fine......strange looking item info though |
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slef |
Barrc: the one in System Preferences IIRC |
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Barrc |
Thanks, I will take a look......there also seems to be some null location entries in my items tables, which isn't good! |
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slef |
Oak: curious. Nothing obvious to me. I think you get to report a new bug at https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dis[…]me=Net-Z3950-ZOOM |
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slef |
congratulations! |
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Oak |
:) |
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Oak |
how about I install this: http://www.indexdata.com/yazpp |
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slef |
no, you need ZOOM-Perl, and it's indexdata who releases it on CPAN |
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slef |
http://www.indexdata.com/zoom-perl |
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Oak |
ok I should try that then |
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Oak |
oh right, that's the one I am getting error with (Net-Z3950-ZOOM-1.26) |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Anyone running 3.2-RC? |
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jcamins |
Can you confirm a bug with the Sort By dropdown in the staff client? |
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sekjal |
jcamins: I can |
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jcamins |
I guess that needs to be fixed for the final version. |
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slef |
jcamins: which bug? |
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jcamins |
It doesn't work at all. |
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jcamins |
If you use the dropdown, it generates a malformed search link that redirects you to the Advanced Search page. |
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jcamins |
The problem is that the q= is getting escaped. |
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sekjal |
jcamins: from search results in the staff client, I'm able to sort and resort without issue |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
What about while using a ccl query? |
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sekjal |
also, if I specify an alternate sort from Advanced Search, it still works |
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jcamins |
Ah, I think it's CCL. |
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sekjal |
what are your Searching system preferences? |
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jcamins |
I think everything's still at the default in the Searching tab. However, I have "SearchMyLibraryFirst" set to "Limit" and "singleBranchMode" set to "Don't allow." |
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jcamins |
And you don't have the problem even with CCL? |
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jcamins |
I can replicate it on 3.1.0.135. |
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slef |
jcamins: no, sorry, I mean which bug number is this? |
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jcamins |
I haven't reported one yet because I hate reporting bugs that turn out to be PEBKAC. ;) |
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Barrc |
Turns out I didn't have the LOC authorized value setup correctly......Location now showing on Details page! |
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jwagner |
jcamins, I can confirm -- in staff mode, either masthead search or advanced search, a mc-loc:GEN search produces results but trying to change the sort flips it to the advanced search page. |
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jwagner |
Doing a regular search (without the ccl), sorting works fine. |
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sekjal |
adding a branch limit... |
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jwagner |
ccl search sorting works OK in OPAC |
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jcamins |
slef: bug 5305 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5305 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Resorting results of CCL queries fails in Staff Client |
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jcamins |
I can't figure out where that's coming from, either. |
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slef |
jcamins: there are no stupid questions. |
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jcamins |
No, but there *are* stupid bug reports. |
| 14:30 |
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jcamins |
As someone who has filed my share of those, I can definitely attest to that. ;) |
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jcamins |
It must be somewhere in the Perl, because there's a submit button, which means it's not javascript. |
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jcamins |
Wait, no. |
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jcamins |
That's not necessarily true. |
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jcamins |
Because it's the URL creation that's breaking. |
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jcamins |
Well, I will try and figure out what the culprit is later. |
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slef |
worst case you get a RESOLVED WORKSFORME |
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Oak |
well, at least now I know a dozen ways how *not* to configure Koha on my Linux... |
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slef |
Oak: the Holmesian approach. When you eliminate all the impossible... |
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Oak |
:) yes. And I'll probably dream about httpd.conf and koha-httpd.conf tonight |
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Barrc |
While installing 3.2RC while running Makefile it stops with failed prereq of Graphics::Magick. Cpan has no idea what this is and when I search, manually, the Cpan site there is not such module?? |
| 14:58 |
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SJeffery |
Has anyone ever heard of someone who added a secondary search engine to index Koha content (Sharepoint, Google Search Appliance, etc)? |
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jcamins |
You can use SRU to index Koha. |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure if that's what you're asking. |
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slef |
Barrc: there was mention of that on lists recently. I don't rememember exactly where because I've processed about 2000 emails today :-/ |
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Barrc |
self: Thanks, I will have a look back over the list to see what I can come up.......'tis a strange one! |
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SJeffery |
jcamins: Thinking of putting in a second search function to index Koha (along with all other enterprise content such as scanned documents) |
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jcamins |
That sounds kind of scary. Perfectly logical, but scary. |
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SJeffery |
You know me, always doing things the hard way |
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tcohen |
hi, 1 question: NULL itemnumber or borrowernumber in (old_)issues means item or borrower deleted? |
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gmcharlt |
SJeffery: if whatever you use can speak OAI-PMH, using Koha's OAI-PMH gateway would be one way to keep the secondary search system fed |
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slef |
gmcharlt: ILSDI any good for that? |
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slef |
Am I being particularly slow? Had everyone else seen that PTFS want 40% of their proposed Koha Software Foundation's board? |
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jcamins |
slef: I don't know that you're being particularly slow, but it was noted before. |
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slef |
jcamins: cool. Where? |
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jcamins |
On #koha. |
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jcamins |
Let me see if I can find it... |
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jcamins |
Wow, I'm 22nd most active. |
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slef |
jcamins: you talk too much. |
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jcamins |
(missed the irclog directory and hit ircstats instead) |
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slef |
jcamins: posting was 23 sep if that helps |
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gmcharlt |
slef: the ILS-DI GetRecords service can fetch bibs by ID, so its an option |
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jcamins |
slef: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]10-09-23#i_505435 |
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gmcharlt |
but the OAI-PMH services makes it a bit easier to identify the new or updated records to index |
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slef |
jcamins: teehee thanks for that link. |
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gmcharlt |
slef: OAI-PMH is one of the implementation options for some ILS-DI services, actually |
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jcamins |
slef: I don't think anyone has responded yet to that part of the proposal, though. |
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slef |
jcamins: slef until the flamethrower once more |
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chris_n |
Barrc: Graphics::Magick is not necessary to run koha; Makefile.PL is only warning that it is missing |
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chris_n |
Barrc: either install it from your package manager's repo or build it from source |
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it is not available in cpan |
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mib_jsn4t |
hey guys, after doing a git pull today i received this error when trying to access my opac http://pastebin.com/NDsSTCxk |
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Sharon |
Howdy - is there going to be a coveritlive for kohacon? |
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Barrc |
chris_n: Thanks, I just spent the last while trying to find/install it, in the end I took a chance and went ahead with the upgrade |
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nengard |
wasn't there some discussion recenlty about the display of the 490 field? |
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nengard |
Sharon yes, chris set it up |
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mib_jsn4t |
just wondering if this is known and related to koha or independent of that |
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jcamins |
Is Dobrica's patch a general solution to the subfield cloning problems? |
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Sharon |
nengard yes - there was a discussion about authorized 830's v. unauthorized 490s |
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jcamins |
mib_jsn4t: You need to install Business::ISBN. |
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Sharon |
nengard do you have the link? i wanted to put it on my kohacon blog post |
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nengard |
Sharon - on the mailing list? the 490 discussion? I'm looking for the link now |
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jcamins |
If you're on Debian, I think maybe it's libbusiness-isbn-perl |
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Sharon |
yes, let me find the thread |
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chris_n |
Barrc: if your running debian or a variant see: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ac8ad;hb=HEAD#l41 |
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Barrc |
The 3.2 db upgrade script, that runs from the web installer, gives quite a few errors regarding duplicate entries and existing columns. I take it everyone is seeing this on an upgrade and its not much to worry about |
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Sharon |
nengard it was actually a discussion on the liblime list. I'll forward. |
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Barrc |
sorry for all the 3.2 questions.....it's my first day testing it! |
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nengard |
Sharon: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]ve-for-kohacon10/ |
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nengard |
http://www.kohacon10.org.nz/live/ |
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jcamins |
nengard: what are you looking for wrt 490/830/etc.? |
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chris_n |
mib_jsn4t: new dep... Business::ISBN |
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mib_jsn4t |
chris_n: ah, ok thanks |
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nengard |
jcamins the display of the 490 in the opac |
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mib_jsn4t |
jcamins: thanks |
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nengard |
i don't see a bug report for it - and was going to report that it should show |
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jcamins |
I mean, the patch, or... |
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Sharon |
ty |
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jcamins |
cait's awesome linking adds in display. |
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slef |
I'm wondering whether to describe LimeLime as "they stepped in, screwed up and sold out". That's probably going a bit too far, isn't it? |
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jcamins |
cait++ |
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jcamins |
slef: perhaps a little. |
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cait |
huh? |
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cait |
hi all :) |
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nengard |
jcamins are you talking to me about cait's awesome linking? if so - what awesome linking are we talking about? |
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jcamins |
We're talking about 490. |
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jcamins |
nengard: yes I am. |
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chris_n |
slef: but only by a little bit |
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cait |
nengard: I have set up a public repo, but have not posted the link yet |
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jcamins |
nengard: http://github.com/kfischer/koh[…]ree/bug_4506_xslt |
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Sharon |
slef libel and slander are such a nasty words... ;-) |
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cait |
jcamins is testing :) |
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jcamins |
cait: your repo is listed on the wiki now, isn't it? |
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cait |
I wanted to add it to the wiki, to the rfc for analytical records |
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cait |
the repo yes |
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nengard |
to be libel you have to show that someone has effected your future income ... just fyi - that means what they say has to be believed |
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nengard |
thanks jcamins and cait |
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Sharon |
nengard good point. |
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slef |
Sharon: it would be libel if anything, as it's written, but it's also fair comment where I am. |
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cait |
nengard: I don't know what the question was, but plan to put a link to the wiki before nz |
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chris_n |
slander is more applicable |
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Sharon |
I work for Jim Minges, the preacher of "keep things professional" |
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jcamins |
cait: the question was about the display of 490 and 830s. |
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cait |
the repo is there, but add it to the rfc |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
I still have to read the link I got from you about it too :( |
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cait |
time is a beast |
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jcamins |
I know. I need to write something up on the treatment of series headings and display in Koha. |
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jcamins |
I think I'll have a little more time in the future. |
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jcamins |
I hope. |
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slef |
Sharon: I work for myself, the preacher of "the professionals have really messed stuff up for the artisans" ;-? |
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jcamins |
There's no reason not to have an authorized value that starts with a digit, right? |
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Sharon |
slef lol. true nuf. |
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slef |
Sharon: "screwed up" seems an arguable description of starting our aiming to be "the global leader" and ending up selling it to become a division of someone else's company, no? ;-) |
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Sharon |
no argument from me about the facts and reality of the current situation, just use the wonderful English language to be poetic about describing the truth ;-) |
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kmkale |
hi all |
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kmkale |
what could be the reason for my koha admin user being suddenly unable to select a branch on the login page? I mean the dropdown to select branch is gone. when I login, I am able to select only one branch. same one I am in. |
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jcamins |
SingleBranchMode has been enabled? |
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kmkale |
wait let me chk. |
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kmkale |
nope. |
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kmkale |
It says allow patrons to select branch on the opac |
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kmkale |
is there a parallel setting for staff client? |
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kmkale |
I mean on the login page of the staff client there is no library selection drop down.. |
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jcamins |
kmkale: I think that's used for both, even though it shouldn't be. |
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jcamins |
I'm out of ideas, though. |
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kmkale |
now the koha admin user which is set in conf is not in the borrowers table. right? |
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kmkale |
so no way someone could acidentally remove its superlibrarian rights or something. |
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kmkale |
also how can the library selection box disappear? |
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kmkale |
i am gonna flip the singlebranchmode on and off again just to see what happens |
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night |
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kmkale |
nope |
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jcamins |
Could someone have deleted the other branches? |
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kmkale |
nope. |
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kmkale |
if I log in with other patron with superuser rights, I can select branch. |
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kmkale |
but after login. no drop down on login page |
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kmkale |
completely stumped |
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MJ Ray: Add one new speech, bugfix a few other history lines |
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fcapo |
Hello, I've got a problem with link_bibs_to_authorities.pl... again |
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fcapo |
I noticedour other instance of Koha was already configured with Dom for authority indexes, but link_bibs_to authorities.pl still doesn't link any biblio to my authorities |
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fcapo |
The only difference I could see between the two instance is the version. One is 3.01.00.999 and the other is 3.01.00.145 |
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jcamins |
fcapo: which one works? |
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fcapo |
The 3.01.00.999 one |
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jcamins |
Well that's good, at least. |
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jcamins |
(the newer version is working better) |
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chris |
Heh what a troll |
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fcapo |
duh, I'll try to update the other one |
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jcamins |
fcapo: that wasn't an answer, really. I was just looking to see if I could see anything that changed. I didn't notice anything obvious. |
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fcapo |
That's what I was wondering, if there were any changes between the two versions that fixed the script |
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jcamins |
fcapo: there haven't been any changes to the script itself, but possibly some other change fixed it. |
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fcapo |
It's at version 3.01.00.999 now, tried restarting zebrasrv and using link_bibs_to_authorities.pl again and it still doesn't work... 0 bibs modified. |
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fcapo |
I just can't find what's different between those two koha that would prevent it to work on one of them :/ |
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jcamins |
Maybe if you try a mysqldump of the table that stores sysprefs and then diff those? |
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mib_6nadr |
guys i followed the instructions on the faq for placing holds but i still cannot place them, i've got the preferences correct and i've added default rules, is there anything else i need to do? |
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jcamins |
fcapo: the table is systempreferences |
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fcapo |
jcamins: good idea, I'll try that |
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fcapo |
mib_6nadr: If you're trying to place a hold on an item that isn't check out, try allowing AllowOnShelfHolds ? |
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jcamins |
fcapo: I'm grasping at straws, but I'd really like to know how to make link_bibs_to_authorities work. |
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mib_6nadr |
fcapo: my mistake, if you leave the "maximum holds" field blank, it defaults to 0.. :/ |
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mib_6nadr |
however, i am getting an "ERROR: Internal error: incomplete hold request." |
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mib_6nadr |
after trying to complete the hold |
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jcamins |
mib_6nadr: do you have JavaScript enabled? |
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mib_6nadr |
jcamins: yeah |
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jcamins |
mib_6nadr: then I'm out of ideas, sorry. We don't use holds. |
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mib_6nadr |
jcamins: no problem, i'll keep poking at it and stick around in here. thanks anyways |
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chris |
What version of koha mib_6nadr ? |
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mib_6nadr |
chris: latest git |
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chris |
Hmm well that's working in production at a couple of library systems ... is there anything in the apache logs? |
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chris |
And are placing the hold from staff or opac? |
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mib_6nadr |
opac, and no nothing in the apache logs unfortunately |
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chris |
Bus stop bbiab |
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chris |
back |
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fcapo |
jcamins: finished comparing the system preferences between my two instances, they're almost identical and I found nothing that could fix my problem :( |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Well, it was a nice idea, anyway. |
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fcapo |
the two instances don't use the same OS either. The working one is using ubuntu. The other one uses Debian. :/ |
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chris |
same version of zebra? |
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fcapo |
...no... 2.0.43 and 2.0.44 |
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chris |
i wonder if thats it? |
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fcapo |
the one that works is the 2.0.43 one |
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chris |
all your zebra config files are the same eh? |
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fcapo |
almost, the paths are different |
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fcapo |
but generally, yes, they are the same |
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jcamins |
I don't suppose one of them is running on a virtual machine so you could clone it and import the data from the other instance into it and see what happens? |
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chris_n |
chris: right you are |
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chris |
? |
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* chris_n |
goes to look up the three billy-goats gruff |
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chris |
:) |
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mib_6nadr |
hmm, anyone got anymore ideas on this incomplete hold request error? |
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chris_n |
at least one of them knew how to deal with trolls |
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chris |
mib_6nadr: does it work with different browser? |
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richard |
hi |
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darling |
chris, please stop me from adding to that liblime thread |
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chris |
yeah dont do it |
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darling |
ok |
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darling |
thanks |
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chris |
i wanted to point out mysql is about the worst example |
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chris |
but refrained |
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darling |
hah -- I was going to use it as the example for why it's not cool |
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chris |
yeah |
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mib_6nadr |
chris: same problem in chrome and safari |
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chris |
you can see exactly what can happen with a vendor dominated project when the vendor is bought |
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chris |
openoffice, opensolaris, mysql .. :) |
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Sharon |
rise above the fray, as they say |
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darling |
and ref that podcast where ptfs dude thinks redhat == linux and so a cpy should take over koha |
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chris |
mib_6nadr: weird can yuo do a screenshot? |
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darling |
anyway, yeah, thanks |
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* darling |
does some useful work instead |
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mib_6nadr |
chris: absolutely, give me a sec |
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nengard |
oh i've heard that one before - the redhat example - seems to be the only product he knows about |
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mib_6nadr |
(1) http://i55.tinypic.com/2hwght.png , (2) http://i53.tinypic.com/xgk6wy.png , (3) http://i55.tinypic.com/35lrgxy.png |
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chris |
looking now |
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chris |
hmm, a branch is selected too eh? |
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mib_6nadr |
yep :/ |
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* chris |
goes to test on a couple of koha |
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darling |
nengard, that's the podcast I was thinking of with you and he together |
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chris |
mib_6nadr: i have 2 extra fields |
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chris |
after hold not needed after |
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chris |
Place on |
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chris |
and Pickup Location |
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mib_6nadr |
hmm |
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chris |
i suspect that not having those is what is causing the problem |
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chris |
lemme check another one |
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chris |
yeah |
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chris |
that has them too |
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chris |
http://catalog.bywatersolution[…]biblionumber=3685 |
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chris |
user:bywater |
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chris |
pass:bywater |
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chris |
(i checked opac.library.org.nz and http://library.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/ too) |
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chris |
so the question is .. why is it different |
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mib_6nadr |
well i do know that my bulk import only filled in what pre-existing information we had, author (some), title, barcode, language and format |
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mib_6nadr |
we have no call numbers as of now |
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chris |
right shouldnt be that |
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chris |
but you should have a drop to pick up the branch to get it frmo, and a place on box |
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chris |
like that demo site ... are the items assigned to a branch? |
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mib_6nadr |
i don't have independent branches enabled , so i don't think so |
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mib_6nadr |
well ive got the place on box showing up , i had specific holds disabled for some reason in preferences |
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chris |
but still no drop down for the branch to pick the item up from? |
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chris |
do you only have one branch maybe? |
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mib_6nadr |
yeah |
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mib_6nadr |
yes |
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chris |
i wonder if thats it |
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chris |
the holds arent suddenly working now that you have the place box eh? |
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mib_6nadr |
no but my eyes got a little wide for a second there |
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chris |
heres an idea, try make a branch, called fake branch for testing |
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chris |
or something |
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chris |
and then see if that makes the drop down appear and fix holds, if so, we know what the bug is |
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mib_6nadr |
well, i added the new library but i can't set it because i have single branch mode enabled, i looked for that in the preferences menu under admin and such but couldn't find it |
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mib_6nadr |
oh gosh nvm |
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mib_6nadr |
okay , grat |
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mib_6nadr |
great* |
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mib_6nadr |
now it's working |
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chris |
right so the bug is singlebranchmode i bet |
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mib_6nadr |
so i guess if single branch mode is enabled, you won't get that field and the form won't validate |
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chris |
yeah |
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chris |
it should just set a hidden input |
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chris |
but looks like it isnt |
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chris |
could you go to bugs.koha-community.org |
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chris |
and see if there is a bug for this already, and if not make one? :) |
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mib_6nadr |
sure |
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chris |
thanks very much |
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mib_6nadr |
also |
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chris |
i think you can delete that branch, and as long as you leave singlebranchmode off |
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mib_6nadr |
while we're on the subject |
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chris |
it probably still works |
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mib_6nadr |
can you guys check out bug 5094? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5094 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, auth_by_bind authentication can fail even if given a correct password and userid |
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chris |
ahh thats LDAP stuff eh? ill leave that to someone who understands ;) |
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mib_6nadr |
ok no problem |
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mib_6nadr |
okay , the bug exists (3164) and looks like the latest comment was on 2010-07-05 so we're all good :) |
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chris |
cool |
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mib_6nadr |
thanks for the help i appreciate it |
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chris |
no problem |
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Gotta go now, thanks for the help, I'll report back if I find exactly what's wrong with my second instance |
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@wunder 93117 |
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brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.3�C (1:36 PM PDT on October 14, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling). |
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heh |
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