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mornin', #koha. |
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good morning and good night |
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and good afternoon |
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Happy Monday all |
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schuster |
hey all... rainy Monday but at least it is above 50 degrees! |
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we have sun, but your rain is due here about Wednesday :-( |
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peers quizzically at "alohabot" and wonders what it is supposed to do. |
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jdavidb |
@quote random |
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jdavidb: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 02:58 PM, September 17, 2009) |
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jwagner |
There's your answer.... |
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chuckles. |
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sekjal |
well, it did... |
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g'morning |
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good morning, chris_n |
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morning, brendan |
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magnus |
google tells me i should search for "alohabob" instead of "alohabot"... |
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it appears to belong to the folks in NZland |
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alohabot: help |
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just guessing... |
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@later tell masonj is alohabot yours? |
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gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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sekjal |
morning, nengard! |
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nengard |
hiya!! |
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how was that brutal commute, sekjal? ;) |
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sekjal |
I got pretty tired near the kitchen, and had to stop for coffee, but I made it. ::whew:: |
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wizzyrea |
was wondering if the traffic report included such gems as "there is a cat stalled in the sunbeam near the foyer, causing delays due to petting" |
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wizzyrea |
<insert your pet of choice> |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: they ARE stalled out in sunbeams. there are lots of windows here, and the weather is gorgeous |
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moodaepo |
wizzyrea: > http://www.39online.com/news/l[…]y,0,5339879.story |
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moodaepo |
No petting though |
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wizzyrea: sekjal: the life of a telecomutter has unexpected trials and travails ;) |
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er, especially when the 'mutter meets the kitties |
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thinks the solution is not to have kitties, but is aware that some people don't agree with that :-) |
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thinks that's a very silly suggestion |
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* moodaepo |
just realized the nature of sekjal's commute do'h |
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* collum |
thinks that if it wasn't for kitties the family structure would collapse. |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - that sounds like my commute!! dodging little dogs that are trying to get underfoot :) |
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hehe |
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sekjal |
after 2.5 hours each way, this is like a dream. I look forward to the day when it all averages out to less than 30 minutes |
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moodaepo: drat - that means we don't get to regale you with tales of the man-eating Maine Coons bedevilling the streets where sekjal lives ;) |
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moodaepo |
gmcharlt++ # that line sounds like something from Twain : ) |
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nengard |
am I the only one who missed the newest OCLC drama? |
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nengard: there's been both private and public sides to it |
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nengard |
I'm just trying to catch up on it all |
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gmcharlt |
the public side has been blogged about for a week or so, although not heavily |
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nengard |
I'm not sure I understand yet |
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gmcharlt |
for the private side, somebody is apparently sending anonymous emails to a bunch of people complaining about the salaries of the OCLC trustees |
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sekjal |
I've missed a lot this last week; there's OCLC drama? |
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nengard |
sekjal http://www.libraryjournal.com/[…]le/CA6720609.html |
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sekjal |
nengard: thanks! |
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nengard |
& http://freerangelibrarian.com/[…]-easy-being-oclc/ |
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nengard |
the 2 sides of the story |
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paul_p |
hello #world |
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gmcharlt |
sekjal: also see a couple posts on the front page of http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/ |
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sekjal |
thank, gmcharlt and nengard. hello, paul_p |
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pastebot |
"nengard" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "errors" (5 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/14 |
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nengard |
can anyone help with these errors? |
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nengard |
I fetched on Friday and rebased and now i see this when i try to get to my koha install |
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nengard: at first glance, it just appears that mysqld is not running |
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nengard |
k - and how would get that up and running again? |
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nengard |
cause I didn't turn it off :) |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: first, check by doing ps -ef | grep mysqld |
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nengard |
nengard 2011 1939 0 06:20 pts/0 00:00:00 grep mysqld |
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gmcharlt |
k, it's definitely gone |
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gmcharlt |
so do |
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gmcharlt |
sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start |
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nengard |
/etc/init.d/mysql: ERROR: The partition with /var/lib/mysql is too full! failed! |
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nengard |
uh oh! |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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nengard |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
oops |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: df -k |
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* jdavidb |
hates it when that happens. |
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nengard |
gmcharlt - what are we looking for on that? I don't want to paste it all |
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gmcharlt |
how your filesystem is laid out - whether it's spread out across mutliple disks, or allocating everything to / |
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pastebot |
"nengard" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "disk" (10 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/15 |
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nengard |
looks spread out to me |
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jdavidb |
very. |
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nengard |
k - so what do I do? do I give it more space do i delete temp files? i'm using virtualbox - if that matters |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: it should help - you can allocate more disk to the VM |
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jdavidb |
you might also look for excess junk in /var. /var/log, for one, can accumulate a lot of stuff after a while. purging old logs might be useful. |
| 16:26 |
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gmcharlt |
yep |
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nengard |
jdavidb - are there any logs I would need to keep? |
| 16:27 |
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gmcharlt |
although 1.1 GB is rather little space for /var unless your laptop doesn't have any more free disk space |
| 16:27 |
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nengard |
it has plenty of space |
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jdavidb |
Normally, the system will zip 'em up after a couple of days, so you could delete the *.gz files you find there in a pinch. But I'm with gmcharlt--give it more room. |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: try cd /var; du -k -s * |
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gmcharlt |
that will give you an indicate of which directories are taking up the most space |
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pastebot |
"nengard" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "cd /var; sudo du -k -s *" (14 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/17 |
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nengard |
is there a way with virtualbox to re-allocate space? |
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nengard |
i'm looking now - but if someone knows :) |
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gmcharlt |
plenty of stuff under /var/log to delete |
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nengard |
heck yeah there is!!! |
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nengard |
just wanted to know if there was anything that has to stay in there - if not i'll empty it |
| 16:30 |
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gmcharlt |
I'd start with deleting anything that has a *.gz extension in /var/log/apache2 |
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gmcharlt |
don't wipe, but any file that has name of the form foo.log.number.gz should be safe to delete |
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nengard |
can't get into the apache2 folder - permissions denied - but i do have *.gz files in the log folder I can remove |
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nengard |
bleh can't remove anything permission denied .... hmmmm |
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nengard |
they are owned by adm - but i don't know who adm is |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: sudo rm name_of_file.gz |
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nengard |
woo hoo |
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nengard |
nengard debian:/var/log$ sudo /etc/init.d/mysql startStarting MySQL database server: mysqld .. |
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nengard |
now i'm going to add more space to it anyway |
| 16:35 |
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nengard |
thanks guys!! |
| 16:36 |
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gmcharlt |
ok, looks like resizing the disk may not be an option in virtualbox |
| 16:37 |
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gmcharlt |
so simplest thing to do would be to add another virtual disk to the VM |
| 16:37 |
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gmcharlt |
mount it as a new filesystem in Debian |
| 16:39 |
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gmcharlt |
then move the mysql datafiles there and create a symlink from /var/lib/mysql to the new filesystem |
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nengard |
gmcharlt - yeah - was just reading the same thing - can't change disk space |
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nengard |
as for what you're suggesting I do - I'm not sure I know how to do that on my own - I had Chris walk me through the entire setup of Koha on virtualbox - and now I have manual writing to do |
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nengard |
so I'll keep an eye on it for now |
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brendan |
@weather 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.5�C (9:22 AM PST on March 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady). |
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schuster |
@weather 75035 |
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munin |
schuster: The current temperature in Stonebrook, Frisco, Texas is 13.9�C (11:37 AM CST on March 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Falling). |
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schuster |
Looks like we are about the same! cloudy with a chance of rain... getting hungry meatballs would be better... |
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brendan |
chance_of_meatballs++ |
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moodaepo |
@weather 56001 |
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munin |
moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 2.3�C (11:41 AM CST on March 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady). |
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sekjal |
@weather 01060 |
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munin |
sekjal: The current temperature in Haydenville Center, Haydenville, Massachusetts is 10.6�C (12:41 PM EST on March 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Falling). |
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theraphos |
hi |
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theraphos |
I am 93D0!!!!!!! |
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CGI930 |
Hi! |
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CGI930 |
Just a simple question: I wish to export bibliographic and holding data via command line. I saw the 2.8 section on manual to do this via web |
| 18:07 |
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CGI930 |
Also on a FAQ I'd found "There are also command-line utilities for import/export if you prefer those.", but I couldn't find this script, only for import (bulkmarkimport.pl) but not for export |
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CGI930 |
I couldn't find anything on /usr/share/koha/bin... |
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schuster |
Can someone else tell me or check this? When I look at Inventory and I select a library they are not in alpha order - ... I havn't updated in a few days so wanted to check before I do a bug. |
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nengard |
schuster - you are right |
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nengard |
they are not in order |
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schuster |
OK bug here I come. |
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Ropuch |
Evening #koha |
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sekjal |
hello, Ropuch |
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schuster |
Also in looking at the "locations" for shelving I see Book Cart 4 times and Processing 4 times. |
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schuster |
Bywater - link to staff interface isn't working on koha-community.org ...? |
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schuster |
opac link doesn't work either??? |
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schuster |
jwagner about? |
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schuster |
Must be out getting ready to splash in the puddles ... |
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schuster |
lunch mmmm... |
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juan-xercode |
hi |
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juan-xercode |
we got an error in koha that is in 3.2 version |
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juan-xercode |
when we are cataloging, and push Save |
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juan-xercode |
when the interface to save items appears, if we push inmediately "add item", this item will not be indexed |
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juan-xercode |
i put a new field in zebraqueue, "xml" to see when the function mark_done (zebraqueue_daemon.pl) it saves the xml that is indexed |
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juan-xercode |
and no item appears in this xml |
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juan-xercode |
we put other field, a timestamp (on update) to see what happens first, if the zebraqueue or the update in biblioitems |
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and all its ok, but the item is not indexed in zebra |
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juan-xercode: you need to run misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z |
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chris_n |
as your kohauser |
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juan-xercode |
yes, but this is a fix for now, but we can not do it in all of the libraries where it crashes |
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juan-xercode |
i dont know what it happens, we have a library where it crashes all the times, and in a Local Koha only sometimes, but it is hard to see it |
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juan-xercode |
i will continue to see it tomorrow, |
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juan-xercode |
bye and thank you |
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wizzyrea |
nengard: the business dir plugin doesn't like MU |
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nengard |
hmm |
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chris_n |
juan-xercode: you will have to setup a cron job to run it at regular intervals on production machines |
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wizzyrea |
i have a request in with the developers but who knows if they'll fix it |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - http://businessdirectory.squar[…]leased-v08-5beta/ |
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nengard |
says it works on MU |
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wizzyrea |
yea, but it doesn't |
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nengard |
bleh |
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wizzyrea |
fatal error |
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nengard |
thought maybe you had a wrong version -- oh well |
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wizzyrea |
nope |
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wizzyrea |
I have two comments on that post saying "hey, it's busted in MU" |
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wizzyrea |
with details |
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wizzyrea |
but they're pending moderation |
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nengard |
hmm |
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wizzyrea |
wouldn't worry about it... we'll figure something out |
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wizzyrea |
i'im convinced that any way we do it someone won't like, might as well wait and get it as close to right as possible. |
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nengard |
yup |
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nengard |
agreed |
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richard |
hi |
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owen |
schuster still around? |
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schuster |
Howdy - texas drawl |
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schuster |
Owen what's up? |
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owen |
Your bug about shelving locations... Did you check your authorized values? |
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owen |
I think you probably just have duplicates there. I did. |
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owen |
I suspect there was an updatedatabase somewhere along the line that incorrectly duplicated some |
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schuster |
I'll check the shelving locations again, but I thought I had and there wasn't anything there. Let me go back. |
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schuster |
Ah yes loc - not CCODE... I always think Library of Congress and can't figure out why that is there! But still a problem... |
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wizzyrea |
ok, I have a hypothetical for you |
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wizzyrea |
lets say you have a bunch of libraries |
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wizzyrea |
placing holds from opac and staff client |
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wizzyrea |
items getting checked in and out |
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schuster |
With ya so far wizzyrea. |
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wizzyrea |
would bad response time from the server cause anomalies with the holds functions? |
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schuster |
That's usually what happens in libraries... ;) |
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wizzyrea |
a la schusters problem with the checkins not happening under high load conditions |
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wizzyrea |
schuster's* |
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schuster |
Was the item actually checked in or is it still checked out so the hold wasn't triggered? |
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wizzyrea |
well it looks like it was checked in, and it shows the "hold alert" |
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wizzyrea |
and you can click the button |
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wizzyrea |
and something happens |
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wizzyrea |
but our holds queues are BIZARRE |
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wizzyrea |
not just the lists, the actual hold queues on specific bibs |
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wizzyrea |
and it's only started in the last few weeks |
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wizzyrea |
mind you, we have no new code |
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wizzyrea |
(that we know of) |
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grumbles about that |
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schuster |
We did see that if you click ignore on a first available copy it does strange things... |
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wizzyrea |
yes, i've noticed that too |
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wizzyrea |
but I can't blame everything on that |
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wizzyrea |
and this isn't 3.2 |
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schuster |
Your copy goes to available - but the hold may never get queued again. |
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schuster |
Right LL 3.0.x |
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schuster |
I have not played with holds yet on 3.2... Still in testing mode on several things. |
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wizzyrea |
well the 3.2 holds are still a bit funky |
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wizzyrea |
I have high hopes though |
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wizzyrea |
not sure they could be worse than what we're dealing with now though |
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looks for a rope and a high precipice |
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rhcl |
So is there no open source version of WorldCat? |
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brendan |
@weather 93117 |
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brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.7�C (1:49 PM PST on March 08, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling). |
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schuster |
rhcl - no - Biblios is as close as it gets, but it is a little buggy |
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schuster |
biblios.net |
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wizzyrea |
and don't try biblios with FF 3.6 |
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richard |
what are the implications of turnign IndependentBranches on after a Koha has gone into production? |
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rhcl |
Well, I done it anyway (checked the site w/ FF3.6), and nothing exploded, but I assume you ment logging in and doing something, which I didn't do. |
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schuster |
richard - from my understanding it doesn't share patron data I am unsure how it deals with bibs and items. |
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richard |
ah cool. thanks |
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