IRC log for #koha, 2010-03-04

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00:20 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.3�C (4:19 PM PST on March 03, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
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00:42 chobbs woot! I believe I have my MARC conversion script complete! Next to figure out how to link existing (in the current ILS) checked out items to patrons.
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03:27 Amit_G heya brendan, chris
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03:35 brendan hi Amit_G
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04:10 wajasu i see that most every action that happens is recorded in action_logs, import_biblios/items/records, items, labels.  So daya in the life, i stage, import, revert 16000 records in my setup, and get lots of records hanging around.
04:11 chris thats totally up to you
04:11 wajasu is there a need to cleanup historical data, or is this used to revert stged records. ?
04:12 chris if you go to the administration page, you can turn logging off
04:12 chris i do that before any imports
04:13 chris actually i run with catalogue logging off all the time
04:13 wajasu i'm setting up a library, and I'm hoping to make a server that sits in the corner, and backs up, etc and runs for years.
04:13 chris yeah just leave catalogue logs off
04:13 chris thats what all the production servers i run do
04:14 wajasu off?  I saw that is done in bulk import.
04:14 wajasu ok
04:14 chris logging is good for debugging when developing
04:14 chris doesnt actually serve much purpose live
04:14 chris unless you have cataloguers that you dont trust
04:15 chris i keep the fineslog and borrowerslog on
04:15 wajasu is the catalog log a systempreference?
04:15 chris yep
04:15 wajasu great.
04:15 chris /cgi-bin/koha/admin/
04:16 wajasu i am working on barcodes.
04:16 * chris has to go catch his bus home now
04:16 wajasu my first attempt to print, and I got solid black boxes.  maybe I need a certain font?
04:17 wajasu have nice ride.
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04:43 wajasu ok. so now i tried to add an item from scratch.  chose book biblioframework, filled in a few fields, and when saving, i get Can't call method "append_fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/MARC/File/ line 92. at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/XML/LibXML/ line 80
04:43 wajasu at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/MARC/File/ line 445
04:43 wajasu koha ver 3.05
04:45 wajasu if its got trouble parsing subfields, how can i find out which one?
04:46 wajasu its after i fill out the biblio, then fill out the item ( which is sparse).
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05:17 Nouman Catalogue search from my system is not working, I need help about it
05:17 Nouman while Search from z39.50 is working
05:18 Nouman How can I resolve this problem
05:35 Nouman Now I want to install koha from start. can any body help me through all process of installation
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05:56 dewkira i want to remove certain fields from MARC record fields. do i have to edit tmpl files ?
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07:02 Nouman I want to install koha on debian-lenny from could any one help me through all process
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07:08 Arun Hi
07:09 Arun Im using koha 3.00.05 version
07:10 Arun facing some problem like, whenever patron returns overdue book, the account will block automatically
07:10 Arun can any one help in this regard
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07:15 Nouman I need help regarding installation of koha
07:16 Nouman Im going to install fresh koha. I need help if some problem occur
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07:22 Ropuch Morning #koha
07:27 Amit_G heya Ropuch
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07:32 Ropuch Hi Amit_G
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07:41 kf good morning
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07:48 Amit_G heya kf
07:49 kf hi Amit
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07:54 Nouman nouman@lumhs-b70715be2:~/koha-3.00.04_fixed$  /etc/perl/CPAN/ initialized bash: /etc/perl/CPAN/ Permission denied
07:54 Nouman this is the error what should I do
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08:01 Nouman I have CPAN initialization proble
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08:03 Nouman ?
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08:22 Nouman I have problem
08:22 Nouman /etc/perl/CPAN/ initialized bash: /etc/perl/CPAN/ Permission denied
08:22 Nouman can any body help me ?
08:24 Ropuch Nouman: to install something with cpan you musthave root privileges
08:24 Ropuch sudo cpan should do the trick
08:25 Nouman Ropuch: I have tried in root also but it still not
08:25 slef Ropuch: actually you can install otherwise, but it needs configuration to do it.
08:25 slef Nouman: what command gives you that error?
08:26 Nouman nouman@lumhs-b70715be2:~/koha-3.00.04_fixed$ sudo /etc/perl/CPAN/ initialized sudo: /etc/perl/CPAN/ command not found
08:26 slef you are typing "sudo /etc/perl/CPAN/ initialized"?
08:27 slef I'm 99% sure that "/etc/perl/CPAN/ initialized" is the computer's response to the command before, not something you should input.
08:28 slef Also, why install koha-3.00.04_fixed instead of 3.00.05?
08:29 Nouman slef: Im installing koha-3.00.04_fixed on debian lenny
08:29 Ropuch Nouman:
08:29 Nouman Slef : whr is 3.00.05
08:29 slef Nouman: see Ropuch
08:30 Ropuch slef: it's all because of  - the 3.00.04_fixed question
08:30 slef Nouman: that section under "Note: you may need to run CPAN initialization..." is a mix of input and output, mostly output.
08:31 slef Ropuch: Nouman: I see.  Blame for wasting your time.
08:31 Nouman
08:31 Nouman this is the problem
08:32 slef Nouman: that section of INSTALL.debian-lenny is *output*.  Do not enter it.
08:32 slef Nouman: if "sudo cpan Algorithm::CheckDigits SMS::Send HTTP::OAI" succeeded, go on to 2. Configuration of dependencies
08:32 Nouman ok.. then what should i Enter to initialize cpan
08:32 Nouman ok Thank
08:33 slef Nouman: cpan will initialize if it needs to.  It looks like it has.
08:33 slef I must rewrite INSTALL.debian-lenny.  It contains much confusion.
08:33 Nouman should I go for 3.00.05, could u help me  and wr is its install file
08:33 Ropuch I have "Install Koha 3.00.5 on ubuntu" step-by-step guide, but it;s in polish
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08:34 Ropuch Although maybe google translate will do
08:34 slef I'd go for 3.00.05 if I were you, I'll try to help but I'm not here all day and being paid to work on PHP today :-/
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08:34 slef Nouman: the install file is inside the tar.gz and it's pretty similar to 3.00.04 anyway.
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08:35 waseemawan ASALAM-U-ALIKUM DOSTOOO
08:35 waseemawan KAFI DINO BAD BAT HO RAHI HAY
08:35 Atif W SLAM
08:35 Nouman slef: ok
08:36 Nouman Ropuch: could u with me if some problem occur
08:36 Ropuch Nouman: no problem if I'm still around
08:36 Ropuch Nouman:[…]k3-on-u810-1.html
08:36 waseemawan BOHAT BOHAT SUKRIA
08:37 Ropuch This is good guide
08:37 waseemawan MAY NAY APP KO 2 DIN SAY 500 CALL KI HAY
08:37 Atif HAHAHA
08:37 Nouman Ropuch: couple of Thanks
08:37 Atif YASIR KAUN SA ?
08:37 waseemawan THANSK BAHI
08:37 waseemawan APP KA BAHI
08:38 Atif OHHH ACHA
08:38 Atif G G
08:38 Atif HMMM OK
08:38 Atif THX BHAI
08:38 slef pretty sure that's not about Koha
08:38 waseemawan OK BAHI AK BAR PHER SUKRIA
08:39 waseemawan THANSK
08:39 Nouman ropuch: this is the installation of koha on ubuntu
08:39 Nouman but Im on debian
08:39 Nouman debian-lenny
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08:39 slef Nouman: ubuntu is a fork of debian.  Start with INSTALL.debian-lenny and refer to Ropuch's link if you get confused/stuck.
08:40 Nouman Slef: ok
08:41 slef[…]k3-on-u810-7.html is probably the most useful page of that.  All the stuff about LAMP Server and Webmin is only if you want a GUI way to manage the server.
08:41 slef biab
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08:56 waseemawan KAHA HAY MARAY DOST
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09:19 Nouman what should I select  during installation zebra or nozebra
09:19 Ropuch Nouman: nozebra is easier
09:20 Ropuch But Koha without zebra lacks some features
09:20 waseemawan ASALAM-U-ALIKUM ALL
09:21 Ropuch Nouman:
09:22 Ropuch Here's google translate of some install guides, quick & easy zebra setup included at the bottomof page
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09:26 magnus i would go for zebra, it's not that hard to set up
09:28 Ropuch Yup
09:43 waseemawan MARAY DOST KAHA HAY
09:44 waseemawan JAWAB TO DAY
09:46 Nouman I have following error
09:46 Nouman nouman@lumhs-b70715be2:~/koha-3.00.05$ perl Make file.PL Can't open perl script "Make": No such file or directory
09:49 Ropuch Nouman: perl Makefile.PL
09:50 Ropuch 'Makefile' is one word
09:52 Nouman yeah it work
09:54 Nouman Ropuch: at last it show some msg 'not found' is it error
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09:55 Amit_G heya waseemawan kya samaj me nahi aa raha hai
09:55 Ropuch sudo apt-get install  install libgd-perl libpdf-reuse-barcode-perl
09:56 Ropuch Nouman: and then run perl Makefile.PL again
09:56 Nouman it also show problem
09:57 Ropuch ?
09:57 Ropuch oh
09:57 Ropuch sudo apt-get install libgd-perl libpdf-reuse-barcode-perl
09:57 Nouman
09:57 Ropuch My mistake, above line should work
10:00 Nouman Ropuch: what should I do
10:02 Ropuch sudo apt-get install libgd-perl libpdf-reuse-barcode-perl
10:03 Ropuch and after installing missing perl modules
10:04 Nouman perl modules?
10:05 Nouman last time in 3.004_fixed I give following
10:05 Nouman sudo cpan IPC::Cmd GD::Barcode::UPCE
10:05 Nouman sudo apt-get install libpdf-reuse-barcode-perl
10:05 Nouman should I repeat these two for this one
10:06 Ropuch Hm
10:06 Ropuch No
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10:07 Nouman
10:07 Ropuch Nouman: proceed with install - those modules are used in label generation
10:07 Nouman ur suggested command is not working yet
10:08 Ropuch So you can live without them - as it's your first Koha install, just skip it :)
10:08 Ropuch Hm
10:08 Ropuch Oki
10:08 Nouman Ropuch: I cant understand ''
10:09 Ropuch Try sudo cpan GD
10:09 Ropuch It seems that ligd-perl is not in lenny repositories
10:10 Ropuch So: you can skip it, or install it from cpan
10:10 Nouman if i skip,  should all be well, how can I install from cpan
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10:14 Ropuch sudo cpan GD
10:14 Ropuch Hello chris_n`
10:16 Nouman It is working and now I gave make command
10:16 Nouman Makefile.PL is working
10:16 Ropuch :)
10:16 Nouman thnx
10:17 Ropuch Nouman: installing Koha first time can be confusing
10:18 Nouman Yeah...
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10:19 Nouman I will be rightfully thankfull to u, if u will be with me via whole process and I will complete in min time
10:22 Nouman what is differnce b/w zebra and nozebra..  if nozebra is selected then 'z39.50 will working or not'?
10:24 Ropuch Zebra is indexing engine
10:24 Ropuch And it improves Koha alot
10:24 Nouman mean? Im not getting.  z39.50 search will working or not
10:25 Ropuch Yes, z3950 search will work
10:25 Nouman ok
10:29 slef zebra is fast search index, but extra software to configure
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10:33 slef oof
10:57 Amit_G heya slef
10:59 slef hi Amit_G
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12:04 Nouman I have problem
12:06 Nouman run the zebra process show the error
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12:32 chris_n g'morning
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13:25 magnus gooood morning usa
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13:29 gmcharlt greetings #koha
13:33 Ropuch Good afternoon
13:33 jwagner Good morning all.
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13:53 jdavidb Mornin', #koha
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14:05 jdavidb hi, paul_p!
14:05 paul_p hi jdavidb
14:15 jwagner @quote random
14:15 munin jwagner: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 02:58 PM, September 17, 2009)
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14:28 amadan hello Guys
14:30 amadan i have one (relatively small) problem, dont know if i'm doing something wrong; when adding a marc record the personal name of the author is a required field but i cant enter anything there
14:33 jwagner It sounds like the field is under authority control.  Do you have authority records in the system?
14:34 chris_n *whew* the catalogers are happy again
14:35 jwagner chris_n, in my experience happy catalogers make for a peaceful life for the sysadmin :-)
14:36 paul_p gmcharlt: about ?
14:36 chris_n somehow keeping them happy has risen to a high place on my list of daily priorities ;)
14:36 gmcharlt hi
14:36 paul_p seen your msg through munin yesterday. what is/was the problem/question ?
14:36 paul_p (hi everybody though)
14:37 gmcharlt paul_p: we're looking to reactivate the savannah account to host files for
14:37 paul_p gmcharlt: this one is easy I think. Let me try
14:37 gmcharlt it looks like you're the only one who has access at the moment
14:38 amadan authority?..nop
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14:38 paul_p gmcharlt: ok, i'm on it :)
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14:39 amadan jwagner: do i have to create authority records in the system before the personal name would be activated
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14:40 gmcharlt paul_p: my savannah account is now created - gmcharlt - I figure that all current and future RMs/RMaints shoudl be made admins on the savannah koha project
14:40 jwagner amadan, depends on how you have your system set up, but probably.  I'm no expert on authority control, but someone else here may be able to help.
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14:42 OpenUser anyone fancy helping me out with a strange Zebra problem?
14:43 paul_p gmcharlt: you're admin now (I hope)
14:43 amadan it's a standard install
14:43 gmcharlt paul_p++
14:44 amadan I followed the debian-lenny install to the letter
14:48 paul_p gmcharlt: I updated the website link to point to
14:48 paul_p + removed CVS & activated git
14:48 gmcharlt aka git hosted at savannah?
14:48 paul_p gmcharlt: seems yes
14:49 gmcharlt or just pointing to for now
14:49 paul_p what would you prefer ?
14:49 gmcharlt paul_p: that may do as a stopgap, but I think brendan is propsoing to host a new
14:49 gmcharlt and I have a preference for having our own public git server
14:50 gmcharlt besides, savannah's insistance on using a self-signed SSL cert annoys me - I'd prefer not to confuse users and devlopers by putting to a site that forces the user to add a security exception to their browser
14:51 magnus_away amadan: have a look at your Administration -> MARC framework, field 100 subfield a (if you use MARC21), click on "display more constraints" and see if anything is selected for thesaurus
14:51 paul_p gmcharlt: OK, set as git repo for instance
14:51 gmcharlt thanks
14:51 gmcharlt soon to change to :)
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14:52 magnus_away amadan: here is the relevant bit in the docs:[…]?ch=x3587#AEN3641
14:53 paul_p gmcharlt: links for mailing lists & doc updated. Now, all links should be "usefull"
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15:21 schuster Question about Administration tools in Cataloging - NewItemsDefaultLocation  - wouldn't it be smart to have that as a dropdown linked to the collection codes?
15:22 schuster I couldn't find a bug so I may file that as a "request".
15:23 jwagner schuster, the NewItemsDefaultLocation is specifically for the In Processing/Shelving Cart feature -- it's not for permanent location.
15:23 jwagner See writeup under Bug 3481
15:23 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3481 enhancement, P5, ---,, RESOLVED FIXED, In Processing/Shelving Cart locations
15:24 jwagner When you catalog a new item, you should give it your desired "permanent" location -- this syspref moves that aside temporarily to put it in the In Processing location.
15:26 schuster OK - but shouldn't the syspref still be a dropdown to select the appropriate "location/collection code?"
15:26 schuster Just a thought rather than relying on my pood typing.
15:26 jwagner I suppose it could be, but I don't know that we want to confuse people with a choice :-)  It should be only the one PROC (or equivalent) entry.
15:27 schuster So instead of a fill in box it should be PROC or don't use?
15:27 schuster Maybe a radial?
15:27 jwagner Yes, it should be PROC.
15:28 wizzyrea so just saw wtem's post about kakama:[…]ma-brief-overview
15:29 wizzyrea can't you see that as connecting to koha to schedule library rooms?
15:29 wizzyrea so patrons could say, reserve a room and request staffing for an event using their koha credentials
15:29 wizzyrea i'm sure that's not what they had in mind when they wrote it
15:30 wizzyrea but it's another need for libraries
15:35 schuster Sorry going through all the Admin stuff on my finally 3.2 database.  I was able to import my existing data which Koha so kindly upgraded for me as I logged in.  Way cool.
15:35 brendan @wunder 93117
15:35 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 8.4�C (7:31 AM PST on March 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady).
15:35 jdavidb @wunder 20817
15:35 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 4.8�C (10:35 AM EST on March 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Falling).
15:36 schuster Aah the morning weather report!
15:36 schuster @wunder 75035
15:36 munin schuster: The current temperature in Stonebrook, Frisco, Texas is 15.8�C (9:35 AM CST on March 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Steady).
15:37 schuster Going to be Gorgeous here!!!  65-70 degrees...  Great night for a 9 year old baseball game!
15:37 schuster wizzyrea - yes that does look interesting kakama - but there are no downloads that I could see even though it says try it out download now.
15:38 paul_p all : what do you think happends if you try to build a stat where you put callnumber on line & on column, and click "run" ? you kill your koha server !
15:38 paul_p shame on koha, mySQL & user !
15:39 jwagner paul_p, planned obsolescence?
15:39 schuster sounds like someone isn't having a good day...
15:40 jwagner @quote add <paul_p> shame on koha, mySQL & user !
15:40 munin jwagner: The operation succeeded.  Quote #66 added.
15:41 wizzyrea you can pull it from the repo:
15:41 wizzyrea but it's another wGUI
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15:42 wizzyrea so some setup required
15:42 schuster leave it to wizzyrea to find new and exciting things...  You are now responsible for making it work with Koha. ;)
15:42 ebegin hello all!
15:43 jwagner Bonjour ebegin
15:44 ebegin anybody knows that ilsdi.tmpl  is for? located in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/
15:44 gmcharlt web services to support SOPAC integration
15:45 ebegin ok... just wondering because pootle asks me to translate those strings... ;)
15:47 kf hi #koha
15:47 wizzyrea noooo
15:47 kf is there a problem with the mailing lists?
15:47 wizzyrea you mean besides infinite questions about zebra not working?
15:47 wizzyrea ba dum bum
15:48 kf hm
15:48 * wizzyrea makes a joke, it's only a joke
15:48 kf more like I got no mails :)
15:48 wizzyrea last one I got was 4:07
15:48 wizzyrea am
15:48 wizzyrea my time
15:49 kf subject?
15:49 wizzyrea xercode presentation
15:49 kf my colleague sent a patch
15:49 wizzyrea oh, you know
15:49 kf I wanted to add it to the bug
15:49 wizzyrea come to think of it
15:49 wizzyrea I sent some patches yesterday and I don't think I've seen them yet either
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15:50 kf ohoh
15:50 kf can you check?
15:50 wizzyrea the last patches email i have is from Mason James on 3/2
15:50 kf[…]arch/subject.html
15:50 * wizzyrea is not an admin of the lists
15:50 kf no, just if your patch is missing too :)
15:51 wizzyrea yea, they're not there :/
15:51 wizzyrea seems they stopped on 2mar
15:52 kf hm
15:52 wizzyrea paul_p: is working?
15:52 paul_p wizzyrea: should be, why ?
15:52 kf we are missing our patches
15:52 wizzyrea doesn't look like anything has gone through since 2mar
15:52 paul_p nahuel: bip
15:52 nahuel ?
15:53 wizzyrea bip... is that french for "ping?"
15:53 nahuel no
15:53 nahuel ping is ping
15:53 nahuel bip is beep
15:53 wizzyrea OH, even better
15:53 nahuel mail server is working well
15:54 nahuel but perhaps a bit slow
15:54 wizzyrea okies, just wait for the queue then?
15:54 nahuel yep
15:54 wizzyrea kf: there you go, stuck in the queue ;)
15:55 wizzyrea ty for checking nahuel
15:55 nahuel kf, which is the "to" you used ?
15:55 kf wizzyrea: this is my last day at work befor one week vacation and one week library congress
15:55 kf I really should expect such things to happen
15:55 wizzyrea hehe
15:56 wizzyrea I used
15:56 kf nahuel: the mail is from
15:56 kf I only took a quick look at it, but I think he used koha-patches
15:58 nahuel kf, the mail was received
15:58 nahuel just now wait the mail server resend it
15:59 brendan hey nahuel
16:00 nahuel heya braedon|home
16:00 nahuel brendan,
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16:21 schuster The new sounds work with which version of Firefox?
16:22 schuster hmmm come to think of it I need to see if that preference is turned on.
16:23 * chris_n smacks his zebra >:(
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16:23 * jwagner calls the ASPCA
16:23 schuster OK I do have it turned on...  So again which browsers are supported with sound?
16:23 chris_n here's another zebra problem
16:24 chris_n 1. add a bib and item
16:24 chris_n 2. run -a -b -v -z
16:24 kf nahuel: thx!
16:24 nahuel you received it ?
16:24 chris_n 3. note that the script says "Records exported: 1"
16:25 chris_n 4. search for new item by title, but it does not show up in result set
16:25 nahuel chris_n, can you pastebin what the rebuild_zebra -z stdouts ?
16:26 wizzyrea FF 3.6 works for sure, schuster
16:26 wizzyrea 3.5 also, i think
16:27 pastebot "chris_n" at pasted "rebuild_zebra -z stdouts" (33 lines) at
16:28 pastebot "chris_n" at pasted "zebraqueue after adding bib and item but before indexing" (4 lines) at
16:28 chris_n nahuel: the second paste might be of interest as well
16:28 * chris_n is unsure why there are two entries for the same bib
16:29 chris_n on marked as done and the other not
16:29 chris_n one even
16:29 nahuel chris_n, your zebra didn't indexed anything
16:29 nahuel if it indexed something it should output some datas like how many record it indexed
16:29 chris_n nahuel: -a -b -v -r works though
16:29 kf nahuel: no
16:29 chris_n so why not -z?
16:30 nahuel chris_n, strange...
16:30 chris_n are the zebraqueue entries correct?
16:30 chris_n should one be marked done and the other undone prior to indexing?
16:31 chris_n it seems this just started a couple of weeks ago
16:32 * chris_n thinks we should add a timestamp to the systempreferences table so we can track when the last change was made to a given pref
16:55 schuster thanks wizzyrea ff3.0.11 doesn't work.  Guess I need to work on getting everyones FF updated...  Have to work through the networking department on that drat.
16:56 wizzyrea yea, zoinks, 3.0 is way old
16:56 wizzyrea :(
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16:59 * wizzyrea is about ready to murder docbook format
17:00 wizzyrea *grumble*
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17:17 chris_n wizzyrea: what editor do you use for docbook:
17:17 chris_n ?
17:17 wizzyrea well it's not so much about editing
17:18 wizzyrea it's about converting it for web use
17:18 wizzyrea from docbook to html
17:18 wizzyrea I have a script to do it but it chokes on sgml errors something about invalid characters
17:18 wizzyrea i've been banging against this for like 3 weeks now
17:19 wizzyrea mostly I just want to complain, but I'll accept help too :P
17:21 chris_n I just can't find an editor I'm happy with and so was wondering
17:21 chris_n not much help I'm afraid :(
17:25 wizzyrea omg... I think i got it
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17:31 kane howdy, is koha able to search online article databases?
17:37 paul_p kane: howdy, no
17:38 kane such is life. Do you happen to know what a system is actually called?
17:38 kane er such a system..
17:39 paul_p kane: in french, yes, but in english...
17:40 paul_p bye bye #koha, time to go back home here in Europe (7PM)
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17:58 wizzyrea @later tell nengard I need you to send me the git url for the documentation, please.
17:58 munin wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
18:00 wizzyrea can anybody help me resolve this with git: warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.
18:01 chris_n wizzyrea: I believe
18:01 gmcharlt is now known as not_nengard
18:01 not_nengard wizzyrea:  git://
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18:01 chris_n hehe
18:01 wizzyrea yea, that gives the ^^ above error
18:01 not_nengard is now known as gmcharlt
18:01 cait hi all :)
18:02 wizzyrea and "remote end hung up unexpectedly
18:02 wizzyrea Kill me.
18:02 wizzyrea this manual is the single most frustrating thing I've had to deal with in weeks.
18:02 cait kill the manual
18:02 wizzyrea <swear words> you, manual.
18:02 * chris_n gits the same response
18:02 chris_n so it's not you, per se
18:03 cait what manual? g
18:03 wizzyrea heh, yay
18:03 cait which? whatever
18:03 chris_n koha
18:03 wizzyrea the 3.2 manual
18:03 cait ah
18:03 wizzyrea <swear words> docbook! Die in a fire!
18:03 cait it took forever to clone it and now I had no time to start translating :(
18:03 wizzyrea bleh
18:03 * chris_n ducks
18:04 wizzyrea lol
18:06 gmcharlt wizzyrea: not the main repo, but we have a mirror at git://
18:06 wizzyrea gmcharlt: you win the internet
18:07 * wizzyrea gets out her tiny black box with blinking red light
18:07 wizzyrea
18:08 wizzyrea thank you, that one is cloning now
18:16 gmcharlt @later tell paul_p isn't responding to connections via the Git protocol
18:16 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
18:54 * chris waves hi on his way to catch a bus
18:55 * cait waves chris
19:00 chris_n wizzyrea: the changes look great
19:01 wizzyrea :) thanks. I'm still working on the manual... I am *going* to conquer it!
19:02 * chris_n cheers
19:07 gmcharlt wizzyrea++
19:08 cait wizzyrea++
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19:21 jwagner Would people find it useful to have the 866 subfield z (Public Note for serial summary holdings) show in the main OPAC title display area?
19:22 cait it does sound useful, not sure its used in our data
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19:23 jwagner The 780 and 785 are already set to display in the XSLT; I just had a request to show the 866z there too.
19:26 ccurry Anyone have a simple solution for generating barcodes for existing item records?
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19:45 cait hm, I see your patch, but our xslt patch from earlier today is still missing on the list :(
19:47 jwagner There has been very little traffic on the lists the last few days in general....
19:50 cait I asked nahuel earlier, he said that he received the mail, now I am waiting, but yours was send later, now I am a little worried :)
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20:10 chris_n jwagner: I see a patch from you
20:10 chris_n bug 4300
20:10 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4300 enhancement, P5, ---,, ASSIGNED, Display 866z summary holdings public note in OPAC
20:11 * gmcharlt is persistently mistypping owned as owened today
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20:17 chris_n lol
20:18 gmcharlt what's worse is what I'm doing has absolutely nothing to do with web design
20:20 brendan gmcharlt is owned by owened
20:34 chris back
20:36 brendan wb
20:37 chris thanks
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20:45 richard update on koha-community dns hosting. we've just got a block of shiny new IP numbers so we'll be migrating our old ones to those. then we can look at the dns hosting for koha-community
20:45 chris awesome thanks richard
20:47 chris_n richard++
20:50 gmcharlt richard++
20:52 chris bywater++ # 1 year old already
20:52 brendan thanks chris
20:53 brendan chris++ ## for all the help and questions that you answer
20:53 chris_n congrats bywater
20:53 brendan chris_n++
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21:09 chobbs me wonders if this error from is as bad as it sounds:  "MARC: Bad offsets in data. Skipping rest"
21:09 chris sure doesnt sound good
21:09 chobbs any sugegstions on troubleshooting? I'm still in the conversion phase, so I can blow it all away and start over if/when i need to
21:10 chris have you tried running with -v ?
21:15 chobbs nope, wil ltry that now
21:25 cait I am writing a patch for bug 4190 - I need to change kohastructure, updatedatabase and kohaversion - right?
21:25 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4190 critical, P5, ---,, NEW, Patron messages dont work with branchcode > 4
21:26 cait the problem is that messages.branchcode is only varchar(4) and branches.branchcode varchar(10)
21:26 chris yep, i think you just set the version number to something like xxxxx
21:26 chris and galen will set it to the correct one .. is that right gmcharlt ?
21:26 cait ah ok
21:27 cait I was not sure about that and chose the next number
21:27 gmcharlt cait: chris: yep
21:27 cait ok :)
21:28 * cait should learn math for distance study, but this is more fun :)
21:28 chris heh
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21:49 cait ok, i have the file for the patch now :)
21:50 chris :)
21:50 wizzyrea nengard isn't here right?
21:51 chris not on irc no
21:54 cait chris: trying git-email for the first time - Message-ID to be used as In-Reply-To for the first email?
21:54 gmcharlt cait: just hit enter :)
21:54 cait wish me luck... :)
21:54 cait hm
21:58 cait it told me OK... so I hope it worked :)
21:59 moodaepo @wunder 56001
21:59 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 1.8�C (3:56 PM CST on March 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Falling).
22:01 chobbs chris: finally back to my rebuild. Looks like it failed on or around record 78851 (of 90606). Here is the output with the -v switch:
22:01 chobbs 13:33:35-04/03 zebraidx(1226) [warn] MARC: Base address does not follow directory
22:01 chobbs 13:33:35-04/03 zebraidx(1226) [warn] MARC: Bad offsets in data. Skipping rest
22:01 chobbs 13:33:35-04/03 zebraidx(1226) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)
22:01 chobbs 13:33:35-04/03 zebraidx(1226) [log] error grs.marcxml.record /tmp/iirR6Yue90/biblio/exported_records 74211900
22:02 chris yeah that looks like at least one of your records has some bad data in it
22:02 chris you could do -k on the rebuild_zebra to keep a copy of the marc
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22:03 chris then try marclint or marcdump on it which might help you find which record it is
22:04 chobbs ok, I'll give that a shot
22:04 chris cait: yep, i see your patch mail
22:04 cait yes?
22:04 chris i just mean it arrived on the mailing list :)
22:05 chris and quick glance it looks fine to me
22:05 cait wow
22:05 cait :)
22:05 cait but I did change things in git settings because I thought it did not work... hope it will still work next time
22:05 cait is this at the beginning ok: From: Koha <>
22:05 cait ?
22:06 chris yep, thats fine
22:06 chris if you do ever want to fix that tho
22:06 chris if its the last commit you did
22:06 chris git commit --amend --author="Katrin Fischer <>"
22:07 chris dont do it for that one now, cos its been sent
22:07 chris but in future, thats how you change the author if you need to
22:08 cait thx chris
22:10 cait chris++ :)
22:13 wizzyrea @later tell nengard Docs are up, please check them over. Next step is your translations.
22:13 munin wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
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22:44 cait chris: news for bug 4208?
22:44 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4208 critical, P1, ---,, NEW, Many submit buttons are not translatable in 3.2
22:45 chris ahh sorry, i still havent fixed that
22:46 cait ok
22:47 cait just checking my bugs :)
23:01 brendan @wunder 93117
23:01 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.9�C (2:57 PM PST on March 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling).
23:06 cait @wunder Konstanz
23:06 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0�C (12:00 AM CET on March 05, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
23:07 brendan neat I think that's the first time I've seen 0.0 for a temp
23:07 brendan good job munin
23:07 brendan @home
23:07 munin brendan: Error: "home" is not a valid command.
23:08 cait :)
23:08 imp @wunder hannover germany
23:08 munin imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is -3.0�C (12:00 AM CET on March 05, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
23:09 imp hmm
23:09 imp munin doesn't show the wind chill any more ;)
23:09 munin imp: Error: "doesn't" is not a valid command.
23:12 brendan @wind 93117
23:12 munin brendan: Error: "wind" is not a valid command.
23:21 chris_n @wunder 28334
23:22 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 7.0�C (6:02 PM EST on March 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
23:26 imp strange
23:27 imp 00:26 <munin> The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is -3.0�C (12:20 AM CET on March 05, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa
23:28 brendan @wunder 93117
23:28 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.3�C (3:22 PM PST on March 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Falling).
23:28 brendan no wind-chill listed here either
23:30 chris_n maybe because wind == 0?
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23:32 moodaepo @wunder 56001
23:32 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -0.2�C (5:31 PM CST on March 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Falling).
23:34 imp but why does munin report the windchill inside a query?
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23:50 cait good night :)
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23:54 chris_n @bugzilla query severity:blo
23:54 munin chris_n: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2162 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---,, NEW, Circulation Reports Too Big - Should Show Filters First
23:54 munin chris_n: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2655 blocker, P2, ---,, NEW, Items waiting on the hold shelf display as "Available" in OPAC
23:54 munin chris_n: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4256 blocker, P5, ---,, NEW, C4/ replication broken and corrupts data when used without update
23:54 munin chris_n: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4141 blocker, P5, ---,, NEW, reconcile 3.0.x and HEAD database updates for 3.2.0
23:54 munin chris_n: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4201 blocker, P5, ---,, NEW, Holds priority listings assigning large numbers
23:54 chris_n @bugzilla query --total severity:blo
23:55 munin chris_n: 17 results for "severity:blo."
23:58 chris_n @bugzilla query --total ver:3_2 sev:blo
23:58 munin chris_n: 5 results for "ver:3_2 sev:blo."
23:58 chris_n @bugzilla query --total ver:3_2 sev:cri
23:58 munin chris_n: 9 results for "ver:3_2 sev:cri."

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