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| 00:11 |
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chris_n2 |
what is the syspref 'intranet_includes' supposed to allow one to do? |
| 00:11 |
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chris_n2 |
it looks vestigial |
| 00:22 |
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pianohacker |
chris_n2: it is implemented |
| 00:22 |
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pianohacker |
theoretically, you could use an includes directory besides prog/en/includes |
| 00:23 |
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pianohacker |
prog/en/includes_npl, for example |
| 00:23 |
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chris_n2 |
which makes absolutely no sense |
| 00:23 |
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pianohacker |
If you were truly that opposed to modifying the base includes |
| 00:23 |
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chris_n2 |
especially in light of the "skinning option" |
| 00:24 |
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pianohacker |
I think this is meant for more heavy-duty modifications |
| 00:24 |
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pianohacker |
than the opacss or opacjs preferences can (reasonably) provide |
| 00:24 |
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pianohacker |
much less important today than in the 2.2 days, when the default opac was unattractive |
| 00:25 |
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chris_n2 |
so someone into it enough to do that level of modification can modify the includes path , but not the template paths... |
| 00:25 |
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* chris_n2 |
scratches his head |
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| 03:17 |
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Amit |
hi chris_n2, chris, |
| 03:17 |
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Amit |
good morning #koha |
| 03:17 |
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chris_n2 |
g'morning Amit |
| 03:41 |
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chris_n2 |
do I recall correctly that the staff-client marc import tool is a bit finicky and bulkmarcimport.pl the preferred method of importing records? |
| 03:50 |
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pianohacker |
yes |
| 03:50 |
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pianohacker |
chris_n2: it fails silently, requires an extra step and is a bit slower |
| 03:50 |
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pianohacker |
better ui tho |
| 03:51 |
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chris_n2 |
tnx pianohacker |
| 04:16 |
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Amit |
heya pianohacker |
| 04:16 |
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pianohacker |
hi, Amit |
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chris_n2 |
g'night #koha |
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LadyNight32 |
hola a todos desde cuba |
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| 05:32 |
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greenmang0 |
LadyNight32: you can ask your questions here |
| 05:33 |
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LadyNight32 |
ok, thank you |
| 05:33 |
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LadyNight32 |
who speak spanish here? |
| 05:34 |
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LadyNight32 |
i am from Cuba |
| 05:35 |
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LadyNight32 |
bye |
| 05:36 |
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| 05:54 |
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pianohacker |
dang! |
| 05:54 |
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pianohacker |
ah well |
| 06:06 |
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greenmang0 |
pianohacker: go hack piano, don't hack koha... :D |
| 06:06 |
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pianohacker |
hey, now, wait a minute |
| 06:07 |
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pianohacker |
I just left a note in (possibly broken) spanish for this LadyNight32 character |
| 06:08 |
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pianohacker |
My mom's from cuba, I can speak limited and broken spanish, and I might be able to help if they show up again, but we'll se |
| 06:08 |
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pianohacker |
*see |
| 06:08 |
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greenmang0 |
pianohacker: :) |
| 06:08 |
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pianohacker |
greenmang0: And how are you doing? (do you need some mango?) |
| 06:09 |
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greenmang0 |
pianohacker: hehe...no mango season is yet to start |
| 06:09 |
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pianohacker |
Yes, it is. :/ Can't come soon enough, nothing better than fresh mango |
| 06:09 |
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pianohacker |
So how are you involved in Koha? |
| 06:10 |
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greenmang0 |
pianohacker: i just install koha for our clients... that's it |
| 06:10 |
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pianohacker |
Still helpful involvement |
| 06:10 |
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greenmang0 |
pianohacker: i have also created a koha live cd |
| 06:11 |
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greenmang0 |
which helps you try koha without installing it on your system |
| 06:11 |
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pianohacker |
Ahh, that sounds familiar, yes |
| 06:12 |
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greenmang0 |
or if you want you can install working koha using that cd... installation takes 30 minutes on 256MB PIII system |
| 06:13 |
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greenmang0 |
pianohacker: sounds familiar?? |
| 06:15 |
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pianohacker |
Yes, just found url. Come to think of it, that would be a good convention handout |
| 06:23 |
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pianohacker |
Okay, good night |
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| 07:18 |
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Mehwish |
Hi all. |
| 07:18 |
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Mehwish |
I am new to Koha |
| 07:18 |
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Mehwish |
I have installed koha 3.00.04 |
| 07:18 |
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Mehwish |
but I am getting error. |
| 07:19 |
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Mehwish |
can anyone help me? |
| 07:19 |
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Mehwish |
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| 07:19 |
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Mehwish |
? |
| 07:19 |
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imp |
what kind of error? |
| 07:20 |
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Mehwish |
when I reached at the step where we have to install koha from browser.. |
| 07:20 |
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Mehwish |
I got this "production mode - trapped fatal error" |
| 07:20 |
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Mehwish |
only this as written.. |
| 07:22 |
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imp |
you are visiting the :80 page and not the :8080 page, right? |
| 07:22 |
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Mehwish |
yes both. |
| 07:22 |
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Mehwish |
I get same message on both pages. |
| 07:22 |
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Mehwish |
I have ubuntu 8. |
| 07:23 |
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Mehwish |
I installed Koha 3.00.02 thru same guide and got success. |
| 07:23 |
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Mehwish |
now only version is new.. |
| 07:23 |
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Mehwish |
I think that is the reason. |
| 07:29 |
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imp |
don't think so ;) |
| 07:29 |
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Mehwish |
thn missing perl modules? |
| 07:31 |
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imp |
when i got the "bla trapped bla" message on the userinterface, the administrationpart was at least partitial working |
| 07:32 |
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Mehwish |
but here nothing I can see.. only this message "production mode - trapped fatal error" |
| 07:32 |
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Mehwish |
what should I do? |
| 07:37 |
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imp |
are you sure you get the same error on the opac page and the other one? |
| 07:37 |
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Mehwish |
yes. 100% sure. |
| 07:39 |
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imp |
hmmm, never had the same problem |
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kf |
morning #koha |
| 09:02 |
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nicomo |
morning kf morning all |
| 09:03 |
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kf |
morning nicomo |
| 09:21 |
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imp |
moinsen |
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| 11:26 |
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amadan |
Hi, i get error 255 when i run make test, should i proceed or is there a remedy to it? |
| 11:29 |
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amadan |
t/Circulation_barcodedecode.t; t/Labels_split_ddcn.t; t/Labels_split_lccn.t have status 255 and from the list of failed each one had 1 out of the total number failing. Could anyone help? |
| 11:30 |
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chris_n2 |
amadan: you can safely ignore failed tests atm |
| 11:30 |
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amadan |
what will it cost me? |
| 11:31 |
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amadan |
ie in functionality? |
| 11:34 |
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chris_n2 |
nothing |
| 11:35 |
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chris_n2 |
what version are you running? |
| 11:36 |
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amadan |
3.0.04 |
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jdavidb |
@karma jwagner |
| 12:55 |
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munin |
jdavidb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 13 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 13. |
| 12:55 |
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jdavidb |
:-O |
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jwagner |
I _told_ wizzyrea you were going to be jealous! |
| 12:56 |
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ftherese |
hello... I'm having a problem with viewing holds... I imported my library, created a patron set, and now when I tried to reserve an item it doesn't show up in the holds section... what do I do? |
| 12:57 |
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jwagner |
where are you trying to place a hold? In staff or OPAC? And is the item available for circulation? |
| 12:58 |
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ftherese |
in staff I believe |
| 12:58 |
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ftherese |
what is opac? I can't figure out what the difference is between opac and the web interface in general |
| 12:59 |
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jwagner |
OPAC is the interface your patrons use. |
| 12:59 |
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ftherese |
does it imply a particular permissions set? |
| 12:59 |
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ftherese |
because I tried just making a generic user account, but it wouldn't let that person log in until I set some permissions |
| 13:01 |
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jwagner |
You can't log into staff mode without permissions, but patrons can log into their OPAC accounts. There are a lot of things to be checked for holds -- can the item type circulate, are there circulation rules in place, do you allow on-shelf holds, are your patrons and items from the same library (if not, do you allow holds between libraries), etc. |
| 13:02 |
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ftherese |
ok, items and patrons ARE from the same library code RIM, |
| 13:02 |
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ftherese |
but as for the other things I will need to check |
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| 13:03 |
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ftherese |
I am assuming I can see that in system preferences |
| 13:05 |
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jwagner |
Check the manual site http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0 for circ system preferences, item type and circ rule setup. An item has to be able to be circulated (i.e., not a "not for loan" status) or it can't be placed on hold. |
| 13:05 |
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ftherese |
ok... I have checked the circulation settings, they look fine |
| 13:06 |
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ftherese |
let me try putting another book on hold... if the book is currently available, can it still be put on hold? |
| 13:06 |
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jwagner |
That depends on the syspref for whether you allow on-shelf holds (AllowOnShelfHolds). |
| 13:07 |
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ftherese |
ok... yes so that is enabled |
| 13:07 |
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ftherese |
now, how does one access the opac? |
| 13:07 |
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ftherese |
if I give a patron a username and password |
| 13:07 |
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ftherese |
and set no permissions, they can't access the catalog |
| 13:08 |
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ftherese |
is there a separate address they have to use? |
| 13:08 |
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jwagner |
They should be able to go to the opac and log in with that ID and password |
| 13:08 |
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ftherese |
let me create a test |
| 13:09 |
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jwagner |
jdavidb, help my memory here. The normal staff address is something like my.servername.com:8080, right? And the opac would then be my.servername.com (with no port number)? |
| 13:09 |
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jdavidb |
correct, based on a default installation. |
| 13:10 |
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ftherese |
ahhhh |
| 13:10 |
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ftherese |
ok... I've never seen this before |
| 13:10 |
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ftherese |
cool |
| 13:12 |
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jwagner |
If you're running staff on the :8080 port, you will automatically be logged into the OPAC with your staff ID. Log out of staff mode to try logging into the OPAC with a different (patron) account. |
| 13:12 |
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ftherese |
ok... that is what I am doing right now... |
| 13:13 |
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ftherese |
most of the options appear to be incorrectly installed |
| 13:13 |
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ftherese |
I don't really know why though |
| 13:13 |
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ftherese |
I enabled everything I possibly could |
| 13:13 |
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ftherese |
from the system settings |
| 13:15 |
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ftherese |
ok... I made a reservation with a regular opac user using opac site, and it doesn't show up in the reservation queue |
| 13:16 |
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ftherese |
ahh... ok it only shows up in Holds Awaiting pickup... |
| 13:16 |
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ftherese |
which makes sense |
| 13:17 |
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ftherese |
that should be good enough for the demonstration I need to make to our head librarian today |
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| 13:18 |
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ftherese |
I am also wondering why the amazon/google book / extra information doesn't show up |
| 13:18 |
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ftherese |
I do occasionally get amazon book covers |
| 13:18 |
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ftherese |
but that is it... I got all kinds of codes and plugged them into the system settings |
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amadan |
Hi |
| 13:19 |
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amadan |
I installed koha 3.04 and i get "production mode trapped" |
| 13:19 |
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amadan |
is there anything i'm doing wrong |
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| 13:20 |
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jwagner |
ftherese, I can't help you with amazon/google, except to note that I think they both depend on matching ISBNs. Does your data have correct ISBNs? |
| 13:21 |
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ftherese |
few do... that is probably the problem |
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chris_n |
g'morning |
| 13:28 |
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jwagner |
good morning chris_n |
| 13:31 |
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ftherese |
anyone know the difference between the AWSAccessKeyID and the AmazonDevKey? |
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| 13:37 |
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ftherese |
All I can find is the AWSAccessKey - there is nothing on the amazon site that looks like an amazonDevKey... what do I put in that blank? |
| 13:41 |
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owen |
ftherese: Where do you see reference to amazonDevKey? Are you looking at the AmazonEnabled description? |
| 13:41 |
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ftherese |
I am looking at local use settings tab on system preferences |
| 13:41 |
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ftherese |
says AmazonDevKey |
| 13:42 |
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ftherese |
and the description on Rich Content tab says it needs to be filled in |
| 13:42 |
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owen |
Hmm.... if it's on the Local Use tab that usually means you added it yourself |
| 13:42 |
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ftherese |
uh... well |
| 13:43 |
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ftherese |
I certainly didnt' do it on purpose |
| 13:43 |
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ftherese |
but according to the enriched content tab it is needed |
| 13:43 |
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owen |
I think that's an error in the description |
| 13:43 |
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ftherese |
ok |
| 13:43 |
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ftherese |
now, why don't any of the other services work either? |
| 13:43 |
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owen |
In my installation the description of "AmazonEnabled" says "Turn On Amazon Content - You MUST set AmazonDevKey and AmazonAssocTag if enabled" |
| 13:44 |
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owen |
I don't have an AmazonDevKey preference, all I have is AWSAccessKeyID |
| 13:44 |
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ftherese |
yeah... me too, the AmazonDevKey preference appears on my Local use tab |
| 13:44 |
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owen |
And I don't have AmazonAssocTag filled in. It's not required. |
| 13:45 |
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owen |
ftherese: What version are you running? |
| 13:45 |
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ftherese |
I have to run... but I am curious why the other online services don't seem to do anything either |
| 13:45 |
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ftherese |
3.0.4 |
| 13:45 |
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* owen |
isn't sure about 3.0.4... |
| 13:45 |
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ftherese |
I got to run but I'll be back |
| 13:45 |
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ftherese |
thanks a bunch |
| 13:45 |
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owen |
We'll be here :) |
| 13:46 |
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amadan |
any body solved the "production mode - trapped fatal error" please i need help |
| 13:46 |
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amadan |
p-l-e-a-s-e |
| 13:47 |
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owen |
amadan: You'll have to give us more details about where and when you see the error |
| 13:49 |
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amadan |
when i run the localhost:8080 and localhost:80 in the browser |
| 13:50 |
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amadan |
the installation went fine without a hitch |
| 13:50 |
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owen |
Have you looked at your error logs? |
| 13:51 |
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amadan |
where would that be located or what would it be called? in ubuntu |
| 13:52 |
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owen |
Look for koha-error_log and koha-opac-error_log |
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owen |
Hi Melanie, how's it going? |
| 14:06 |
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amadan |
I get a bunch of these, looks like the tables are not being installed |
| 14:06 |
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amadan |
[Tue Nov 17 09:43:12 2009] [error] [client 127.0.1.1] [Tue Nov 17 09:43:12 2009] Reserves.pm: DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'koha.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 485. |
| 14:06 |
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Melanie |
it's going! |
| 14:06 |
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Melanie |
the insanity has died down at least for a bit |
| 14:06 |
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paul_p2 |
hello american koha-ers ! |
| 14:06 |
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jdavidb |
Hi, paul_p2! |
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paul_p2 is now known as paul_p |
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owen |
amadan: It sounds like your installation did not go without a hitch after all |
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amadan |
i guess |
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amadan |
something to do with system preference tables and a whole lot of others |
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jwagner is now known as jwagner_meeting |
| 14:18 |
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owen |
does anyone have a suggestion for amadan about what might have gone wrong during installation to cause tables to be missing from the koha database? |
| 14:18 |
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amadan |
I think i found out |
| 14:19 |
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amadan |
the permissions in mysql were not updated |
| 14:22 |
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wizzyrea |
oh yep, that'll do it |
| 14:22 |
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wizzyrea |
and good morning :) |
| 14:23 |
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jdavidb |
good morning, wizzyrea! |
| 14:23 |
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jdavidb |
first thing this morning, jwagner was crowing about all the good karma she got from you yesterday.. :P |
| 14:25 |
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wizzyrea |
dude, I don't see YOUR reports on the wiki... |
| 14:26 |
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wizzyrea |
all good things come to those who contribute! |
| 14:27 |
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wizzyrea |
jebus, my office is freezing! |
| 14:27 |
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* owen |
keeps a jacket in his office for freezing-time |
| 14:27 |
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kf |
not freezing here - but foggy all day |
| 14:27 |
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owen |
Now there are holes worn in the elbows. I need me some of those elbow patches. |
| 14:28 |
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owen |
Watch out for the stylishness when Owen gets him some elbow patches. |
| 14:28 |
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wizzyrea |
those are very geeky |
| 14:28 |
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wizzyrea |
or artistic, depending on how you look at it |
| 14:29 |
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owen |
http://video.adultswim.com/the[…]ch-selection.html |
| 14:33 |
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hdl |
hello all |
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wizzyrea |
625777 items in our collection this morning |
| 14:52 |
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wizzyrea |
and bringing in 7 more libraries next week. |
| 14:52 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 14:53 |
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owen |
Who'd have thought that Kansas would turn out to be the Koha powerhouse of the nation? |
| 15:00 |
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wizzyrea |
we have a proud history of being progressives... it's only recently that we've become backwards. |
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| 15:01 |
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wizzyrea |
ugh, what is wrong, this won't work: SELECT branchcode,categorycode,COUNT(*) |
| 15:01 |
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wizzyrea |
FROM borrowers WHERE MONTH(dateenrolled) = 04 AND YEAR(dateenrolled)= 2009 |
| 15:01 |
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wizzyrea |
GROUP BY branchcode,categorycode |
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wizzyrea |
ORDER BY branch |
| 15:02 |
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wizzyrea |
nevermind, branch = branchcode |
| 15:02 |
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wizzyrea |
derrr |
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zico |
hi, i have been using koha 3.0.4 ..but.. i am facing problem with "Label printing" |
| 15:04 |
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wizzyrea |
what kind of problem? |
| 15:05 |
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zico |
I cannot search with date range in "Add item(s) to batch"... |
| 15:05 |
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zico |
but.. i can search with Title,Author or Barcode there |
| 15:06 |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
| 15:07 |
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wizzyrea |
can anybody out there with 3.0.4 confirm that as a problem? (and zico, is there anything in your koha error logs?) |
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zico |
ummm... lemme check |
| 15:08 |
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zico |
ok.. the latest error msg. "[Fri Nov 20 21:00:51 2009] [error] [client 127.0.1.1] [Fri Nov 20 21:00:51 2009] label-item-search.pl: NZAND at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 1808., referer: http://127.0.1.1:8080/cgi-bin/[…]el-item-search.pl" |
| 15:13 |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n any thoughts on that one? |
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* chris_n |
looks |
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imp |
current sky over hannover -> http://hannover.ccc.de/~imp/100_5522.jpg ;) |
| 15:15 |
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wizzyrea |
wow imp, that's impressive |
| 15:15 |
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imp |
thx |
| 15:16 |
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imp |
(but I'm not responsible for the weather ;D) |
| 15:17 |
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chris_n |
zico: this works in the current HEAD... I cannot vouch for 3.0.4 as we are running off of the development HEAD here and I don't have a 3.0.4 install handy |
| 15:18 |
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zico |
chris_n: "current HEAD"? what does it means? |
| 15:18 |
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chris_n |
I do notice that the date range is apparently run against the date of the bib rather than the items attached to the bib |
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chris_n |
zico: the main git repo: http://git.koha.org |
| 15:18 |
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chris_n |
ie. the "cutting edge" so to speak |
| 15:19 |
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chris_n |
actually, the date range returns all items attached to a bib if one of the items was added in the date range specified |
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chris_n |
so you may end up with some items which fall outside of the requested range |
| 15:20 |
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zico |
so, what should i suppose to do now? |
| 15:20 |
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chris_n |
zico: maybe hdl or someone else who has access to a 3.0.4 install could verify if this is a bug |
| 15:21 |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n: that behavior of checking the bib date actually quite annoys our librarians |
| 15:21 |
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chris_n |
yeah, it should be smarter than that |
| 15:21 |
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zico |
so... chris_n & wizzyrea... the thing is |
| 15:22 |
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* chris_n |
did not write the search code ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 15:22 |
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zico |
i need to print 18,000 barcodes now |
| 15:22 |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: feel free to open a bug for it though |
| 15:22 |
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zico |
how can i do that in a easy way? what do you guys suggest me? |
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chris_n |
zico: how did you import your records? |
| 15:23 |
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imp |
script it? |
| 15:23 |
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chris_n |
zico: can you search based on other criteria? |
| 15:23 |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n: I think I shall! |
| 15:23 |
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zico |
yep, i can search based on other criteria |
| 15:23 |
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chris_n |
zico: say, keyword = book |
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chris_n |
or the like |
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chris_n |
zico: is the line you posted above the only entry in the error log that pertains to this problem? |
| 15:25 |
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zico |
yep |
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zico |
chris_n: if i enter an annonymous keyword "computer".. it can search.. but, if i put a "specific" barcode.. it cannot search |
| 15:27 |
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chris_n |
ahhh... zico, are you running nozebra? |
| 15:27 |
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* chris_n |
thinks nozebra has some issues... maybe hdl or paul_p can comment |
| 15:28 |
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hdl |
you had better go with zebra |
| 15:28 |
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zico |
ok.. the latest error in log: "[Fri Nov 20 21:22:39 2009] [error] [client 127.0.1.1] File does not exist: /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/opac-tmpl, referer: http://127.0.1.1:8080/cgi-bin/[…]rch.pl?q=computer ~ " |
| 15:28 |
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chris_n |
zico: I'd recommend setting up zebra |
| 15:28 |
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zico |
chris_n: yes, i am running nozebra |
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wizzyrea |
oh, heh |
| 15:28 |
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wizzyrea |
yea |
| 15:28 |
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wizzyrea |
go with zebra. (says the queen of the nozebra) |
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chris_n |
heh |
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* wizzyrea |
waits for the finger pointing and giggling |
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* chris_n |
thinks a koha without a zebra is like a car without an engine |
| 15:29 |
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wizzyrea |
(at me, not at anyone else, of course) |
| 15:29 |
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zico |
r u sure that, zebra will solve the problem? |
| 15:29 |
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wizzyrea |
can't hurt, might help |
| 15:29 |
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zico |
haha :D |
| 15:29 |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
| 15:30 |
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chris_n |
most likely so and probably many you have not encountered... yet |
| 15:30 |
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zico |
:D |
| 15:30 |
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zico |
"koha without a zebra is like a car without an engine".. haha :D i think... i should use this with chris`s comment in my facebook status |
| 15:30 |
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zico |
lolz |
| 15:31 |
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chris_n |
zico: sorry I can't be of more help, but I do think your best solution is to back up and setup zebra |
| 15:31 |
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chris_n |
your searches will be faster as well I think |
| 15:31 |
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zico |
ok.. .let`s see.. what it can help |
| 15:31 |
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zico |
:) |
| 15:32 |
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zico |
but.. i think.. zebra is not that much smart.. it needs a lot of take care! |
| 15:32 |
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chris_n |
disclaimer: zebra is not for the faint of heart, so preserver and do plenty of list archive searching |
| 15:32 |
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zico |
my current big server...which is IBM SYSTEM X3500 needs a lot of care all the time |
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zico |
:( |
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chris_n |
zico: once up and running properly, the Z will pretty much take care of itself |
| 15:33 |
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* chris_n |
notes "properly" is the operation word here |
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chris_n |
zico: give a shout here if you get too stuck |
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* chris_n |
heads back into the pit of labels and patroncards code |
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zico |
sure thing brother |
| 15:35 |
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chris_n |
uh oh.... a label question on the list.... |
| 15:36 |
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* chris_n |
runs out of the room screaming |
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imp |
cya chris_n ;) |
| 15:37 |
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* chris_n |
thinks nahuel is the patch king |
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nahuel |
^^ |
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nahuel |
why do you say that ? |
| 15:38 |
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zico |
hey, are there any sites from where i can get all the information of koha developers? |
| 15:38 |
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zico |
i mean, i want to see those persons.. who are not human being.. but in a form of human being! |
| 15:38 |
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zico |
:) |
| 15:38 |
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wizzyrea |
well, the wiki is pretty good |
| 15:38 |
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wizzyrea |
wiki.koha.org |
| 15:39 |
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nahuel |
or the koha about.pl page |
| 15:39 |
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wizzyrea |
also good |
| 15:39 |
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zico |
i mean... pictures... their hobbies... nd other |
| 15:39 |
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zico |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
OH lol |
| 15:39 |
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wizzyrea |
facebook >.> |
| 15:39 |
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imp |
zico: stalker ;P |
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chris_n |
nahuel: I think it is great to see you submitting so many fixes :-) |
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zico |
:( |
| 15:40 |
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zico |
r u guys laughing @ me??? |
| 15:40 |
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zico |
:( |
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nahuel |
chris, i'm paid to do this :) |
| 15:40 |
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nahuel |
zico, you'll never see that kind of stuffs about me :) |
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imp |
zico: naah, but i prefer to keep a minimal footprint in the web |
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chris_n |
lol |
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nahuel |
private life is private :) |
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imp |
nahuel: full ack :) |
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* chris_n |
agrees with nahuel and imp |
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nahuel |
:) |
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chris_n |
zico: you can see some info about some of the developers here: http://www.ohloh.net/p/koha |
| 15:42 |
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paul_p |
nahuel: true you're paid, but 1- you do a good job, and 2- you're efficient, so, chris_n is right ;-) (PS: don't deduce you should ask for more money ;-) ) |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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zico |
nah! actually... i want to see their bio s .. who can create such giant and beautiful software for FREE!!!! |
| 15:43 |
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zico |
i think.. if i would thank All Mighty... he would definitely gave me something!!! :D |
| 15:43 |
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chris_n |
zico: take a look under the section "Who contributes to Koha Library Automation Package?" |
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ccurry |
Hello, all. Does anyone know if it's possible to use OCLC's connexion client to import (a) MARC record(s) into Koha? |
| 15:46 |
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nahuel |
ccurry, you can, using z3950 oclc's server |
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zico |
ok guys |
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zico |
i am facing this problem now |
| 15:51 |
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ccurry |
nahuel: Are you referring to the built in z3950 client in koha, @ /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/z3950_search.pl? I was hoping there was a way to use the Connexion client to find the records (since that's the software our cataloging staff are used to) and import them directly from the client. Connexion has more sophisticated search capabilities than the z3950 client built into koha. I've seen... |
| 15:51 |
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ccurry |
...this work with iii: Connexion is configured with a url to access the ILS server and the records are directly imported. |
| 15:51 |
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zico |
debian:/opt/koha-3.00.04_fixed# make /usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib" fix-perl-path.PL blib /usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib" rewrite-config.PL blib/ZEBRA_CONF_DIR/etc/passwd Can't open blib/ZEBRA_CONF_DIR/etc/passwd for read at rewrite-config.PL line 172. make: *** [blib/ZEBRA_CONF_DIR/etc/passwd] Error 2 " |
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zico |
Error 2? |
| 15:53 |
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nahuel |
ccurry, yes I mean the z3950 client build in :) As I know, it doesn't exist other way... perhaps exporting records from oclc in MARC21, and importing it in koha ? |
| 15:55 |
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ccurry |
nahuel: ok. thanks. It'd be a nice feature, but it's not a deal breaker, our current cheap skate ILS can't do this either (and we had to pay for that!). |
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nahuel |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
ccurry what is your current cheap skate ILS? |
| 16:03 |
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jwagner |
nahuel or paul_p or any other French speakers available for a syspref translation? |
| 16:03 |
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nahuel |
jwagner, yep |
| 16:04 |
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jwagner |
I'm setting up a separate syspref for AdvancedSearchTypes, so OPAC can use a different setting than staff. In the translation file, I notice the original syspref isn't translated either, so maybe two strings: |
| 16:04 |
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jwagner |
Select which set of fields comprise the Type limit in the advanced search |
| 16:04 |
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jwagner |
Select which set of fields comprise the Type limit in the OPAC advanced search |
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jwagner |
(By translation file I mean installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/1-Obligatoire/unimarc_standard_systemprefs.sql) |
| 16:06 |
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zico |
ok... "make clean" sloved the problem :P |
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paul_p |
"Définit quel jeu de champs est utilisé pour la limitation par type dans la recherche avancée" |
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paul_p |
"Définit quel jeu de champs est utilisé pour la limitation par type dans la recherche avancée de l'OPAC" |
| 16:08 |
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jwagner |
Merci! |
| 16:09 |
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nahuel |
ahah |
| 16:09 |
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paul_p |
s/type/type de document/ is better |
| 16:13 |
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ccurry |
wizzyrea: Amlib Library Management System. Actually, it probably does have this functionality; I haven't determined this for sure. I'm very quick to slander Amlib these days; it has been hanging on to our data as if its life depended on it (actually, it does). We've just about wrenched the last of our data from its dying hands, though, so keep your fingers crossed. |
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amadan |
any body running koha 3 in production |
| 16:26 |
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amadan |
Let me re-phrase my question. Does any body have any idea how many production koha 3 installs are there approximately? |
| 16:26 |
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amadan |
because i'm tending to go back to an earlier version for production purposes |
| 16:27 |
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chris_n |
amadan: 3.0.4 is the current stable version |
| 16:27 |
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chris_n |
3.0.4_fixed to be exact |
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* chris_n |
runs off of the current development repo |
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amadan |
Chris, can this be run in production fairly without any hitches? |
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owen |
amadan: The 3.x version has been in use for quite a while now |
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kf |
amada: our library runs with 3.01.00.061 (in production since october), very stable and not problems so far |
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chris_n |
amadan: I'd recommend 3.0.4_final as the dev repo may not be entirely stable |
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kf |
chris_n is right - we chose 3.1 because of sip2 - they have self check machines |
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kf |
bye #koha :) |
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chris_n |
owen: ping |
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* owen |
salutes |
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chris_n |
lol |
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amadan |
thanks guys will look into it |
| 16:56 |
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chris_n |
owen: what might cause a 'jquery foo.style is undefined' when I can see that it *is* defined? |
| 16:57 |
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chris_n |
*jquery 'foo.style is undefined' |
| 16:57 |
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owen |
Are you working in the Firebug console by any chance? |
| 16:57 |
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chris_n |
yup |
| 16:57 |
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chris_n |
it only occurs with one division... others on the same page just like it work fine |
| 16:57 |
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owen |
I see that quite often, and I'm not sure what the cause is. I get around it by navigating away from and back to the page. |
| 16:58 |
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owen |
I think it's a Firebug bug rather than an jQuery problem. |
| 16:58 |
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* chris_n |
tries |
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amadan |
do we have the link to dowload koha 3.01.00.061 |
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chris_n |
owen: no joy... maybe I need to restart firefox |
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owen |
chris_n: shift-refresh maybe? |
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chris_n |
no success |
| 17:02 |
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chris_n |
owen: ok... maybe we found out the problem... firefox just did me a favor and crashed :-P |
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wizzyrea_ |
amandan: to get that version you will have to download Koha from the Git repo. |
| 17:03 |
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wizzyrea_ |
it is not a proper stable release. |
| 17:06 |
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imp |
no risk no fun ;) |
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chris_n |
owen: still no go |
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owen |
Sorry chris_n, I don't know |
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chris_n |
owen: tnx for trying |
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chris_n |
amadan: you can get it here: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]c4663ab7bf509a62e |
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schuster |
chris here? |
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chris_n |
amadan: disclaimer... it is not considered stable atm... so ymmv |
| 17:09 |
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schuster |
wizzyrea - you about? |
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chris_n |
schuster: he's probably eating breakfast |
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chris_n |
owen: should document.getElementById('barcode') really be document.getElementById("#barcode")? |
| 17:13 |
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owen |
No. It's only if you're using the jquery syntax that you use the #: $("#barcode") |
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chris_n |
owen: how do I check the state of a checkbox (ie. if it is checked or not) in jquery? |
| 17:59 |
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chris_n |
I have been checking '$("input[name=barcode_print]:checked").val()' |
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chris_n |
but I think that is the 'value=foo' attribute rather than the state of checked/unchecked |
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* chris_n |
wonders why js cannot be perl instead :-\ |
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owen |
To be honest, I have to look that one up every time. |
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chris_n |
ahh... $("input[name=barcode_print]:checked") is 0 if checked and undef if unchecked |
| 18:04 |
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owen |
Looks like you can also check $(foo).attr("checked"); |
| 18:04 |
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schuster |
Ok so where are the cgi scripts stored? |
| 18:05 |
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schuster |
I want to look at one. |
| 18:06 |
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chris_n |
owen: tnx just found it myself |
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jdavidb |
chris_n: Why can't everything be Perl? after all, the universe is defined in perl: http://xkcd.com/224/ |
| 18:07 |
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owen |
schuster: Do you know where koha is installed? |
| 18:07 |
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schuster |
Yes |
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chris_n |
jdavidb: I occasionally have nightmares in perl... does that count? |
| 18:08 |
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jdavidb |
it should, chris_n! |
| 18:08 |
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owen |
schuster: They're all there :) Except for what's in koha-tmpl, that's the templates. |
| 18:08 |
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owen |
schuster: What are you looking for in particular? |
| 18:09 |
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schuster |
I'm back to the multibranchlimit issue I've been kicking around. |
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schuster |
from the opac-search.pl I see multibranchlimit noted which I think is a cgi script? |
| 18:10 |
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chris_n |
ok, lunchtime |
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owen |
schuster: Are you looking at where it says "$cgi->param('multibranchlimit')" |
| 18:10 |
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schuster |
yes. |
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owen |
That just refers to input. "multibranchlimit" is a possible piece of input submitted by the form to the script |
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schuster |
hmmm... so where is the call to find out the branch? from apache environmental variables? |
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owen |
Look at line 118 of opac-search.pl |
| 18:14 |
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owen |
That shows an example: C4::Context->userenv->{branch} |
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schuster |
Yep |
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* jdavidb |
wonders if that universe-defining module is available on CPAN. |
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schuster |
C4::Context->userenv ) ? C4::Context->userenv->{branch} : ''; - so this calls the environmental variable and sticks it in between the quotes? |
| 18:18 |
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chris |
nope |
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chris |
you need to look at the full line |
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chris |
what it says is, if there is a value set for C4::Context->userenv->{branch} and SearchMyLibraryFirst is switched on |
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chris |
my $branch = C4::Context->userenv->{branch}; |
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chris |
else |
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chris |
my $branch = ''; |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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jdavidb |
Hi, cait! :) |
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schuster |
hmmm ok thnks |
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cait |
hi jdavidb :) |
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chris |
schuster: but the the userenv is not looking at the apache env variables at that point |
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schuster |
wow... deep stuff. |
| 18:27 |
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chris |
which rfc are you following, and where does it mention a branch env variable? |
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chris |
cos i can see things like this |
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chris |
C4/Auth.pm: my $opac_search_limit = $ENV{'OPAC_SEARCH_LIMIT'}; |
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chris |
C4/Auth.pm: my $opac_limit_override = $ENV{'OPAC_LIMIT_OVERRIDE'}; |
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chris |
but i dont see any $ENV{'BRANCH'} |
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pastebot |
Someone at 192.168.15.101 pasted "my $opac_search_limit = $ENV{'" (9 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/62 |
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schuster |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]2_multiple_opac&s[]=url |
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chris |
ah yes that makes more sense, so you are setting OPAC_SEARCH_LIMIT in your apache config eh? |
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chris |
and that code that pastebot just showed, is using that |
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schuster |
Yes, but I don't see that pastebot on my opac-search.pl page. |
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chris |
its not |
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chris |
its in C4/Auth.pm |
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schuster |
ah. well so much for "easy!" |
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chris |
its only designed to work with one limit |
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chris |
or at least that is how it has been implemented |
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schuster |
I was seeing if there was a hack I could stick in there to "or 901"...;) |
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schuster |
doesn't hurt to poke! |
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chris |
hmmm actually you might be able too |
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chris |
do you know ccl syntax? |
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schuster |
sorry don't know what ccl is.. |
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schuster |
Cactus Configuration Language (CCL) - funny names... |
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chris |
opac_search_limit |
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chris |
* |
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chris |
a ccl query limit to add to all searches in this opac interface. common examples: |
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chris |
o |
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chris |
branch: each library in the Koha installation can have its own PAC, with scoped searches. |
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chris |
lemme test something |
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chris |
ill be back in 10 mins |
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schuster |
uh oh - the wizard has left the chat. |
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chris |
ok not promising this will work but try |
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chris |
SetENV OPAC_SEARCH_LIMIT "branch: 101 or branch: 901" |
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schuster |
But it is dynamic based on the URL. |
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schuster |
oh you mean in the config? |
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schuster |
That's where I was yesterday, but apache doesn't like the spacing. |
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schuster |
Well have to go pickup my son run him to the doctor - runny green nose and a cough - not good going into a weekend! |
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schuster |
Thanks Chris - I may poke more at this next week. |
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chris |
apache is fine with the spacing, it might be zebra that doesnt like it, but now the kids are awake so thats me for the weekend |
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cait |
have a nice weekend chris |
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owen |
Nate, you're tempting the wrath of the email style nazis! |
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Nate |
ha! |
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Nate |
sorry bout that |
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owen |
Top-posting a reply to a digest message to create a new topic? You must have been posting from your phone ;) |
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* owen |
is feeling curmudgeonly after that announcement of another Koha list |
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jwagner |
owen, curmudgeons are always welcome here. (Speaking as one....) |
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wizzyrea_ |
why do we need another list? |
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wizzyrea_ |
oh, never mindn |
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wizzyrea_ |
bah. |
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Colin |
I'd rather some UK librarians looked at what some libraries elsewhere are doing |
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* chris |
wanders past |
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chris |
yeah, i always find it sad that people seek to splinter communities |
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chris |
i think the language based lists are fine, having lists based on languages makes sense, lists based on geographic reasons not so much |
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Colin |
There are so few koha libraries in the UK that I fear they will feel more isolated |
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Colin |
We did a presentation to some libraries the other week and it was the fact that koha is world wide that excited them |
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chris |
*nod* thats always the most fun thing for me too |
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wizzyrea_ |
here too |
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chris |
gah, kahu turned 3 yesterday, big party planned for the park today, we have been up most of the night making stuff for it (nursery rhyme theme) and now its raining :( |
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wizzyrea_ |
Noooo! |
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* chris |
writes emails and postpones til tomorrow |
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wizzyrea_ |
humbug! |
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jwagner |
I'll toss in a Harrumph |
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* jdavidb |
echoes jwagner's Harrumph! |
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Colin |
heart felt echo from a very wet uk |
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jwagner |
We had a wicked nor'easter waddle through here last week -- WAY too much rain and coastal flooding. |
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Colin |
some places have been getting unprecedented rainfall here the past couple of days |
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Colin |
and lots more coming |
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veryinky |
When i make install, I get a [set_koha_ownership] Error 1, does this mean I missed a step? Using stable 3.0 target as standard. |
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pianohackr|work |
veryinky: Are you running it as root, using sudo or su? |
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veryinky |
Tried root and su |
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veryinky |
I'm checking if the koha user really exists right now. Checked if XML::LibXSLT was properly installed, but that checked out. |
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veryinky |
Ah. I think that's what went wrong. |
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pianohackr|work |
No koha user? |
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veryinky |
Yeah. Silly mistake. It works now. |
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veryinky |
Sorry for that, I thought it was something more complicated, but instead it was just me missing a step. |
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pianohackr|work |
Koha installs aren't any fun if they work the first time |
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pianohackr|work |
Anything else we can help with? |
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veryinky |
Not really, going to play with the tutorial I found now. |
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pianohackr|work |
cool |
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* veryinky |
spent 3 hours re-installing apache and perl only to find out I missed a step. |
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veryinky |
Oh well, thanks in any event. |
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pianohackr|work |
bbl, replacing dying hard drive |
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pianohackr|work |
np |
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chris |
and to top the day off http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=14380 |
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chris |
someone needs to beat liblime with the stop lying stick |
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owen |
chris is that an organization you'd heard of before? |
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chris |
nope |
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chris |
actually, yes i have |
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* chris |
just put 2 and 2 together |
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chris |
they seem like nice people doing nice things, with the right idea but have been misled by liblime to believe that by choosing LEK they are choosing open source |
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chris |
"LibLime Enterprise Koha is built on over two years of completed customer-sponsored development, including several highly-anticipated academic and consortia features." |
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chris |
so if its finished, release it already, you liar |
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chris |
im so over this |
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chris |
blatantly and obviously lying and bullying |
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chris |
either admit there you arent releasing it and stop calling it open source, or release it already |
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* chris |
wanders off again |
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chris_n |
rain-on-birthday-- |
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imp |
:( |
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bbiab |
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