IRC log for #koha, 2009-10-26

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01:05 * chris_n2 thinks it is a bit too quiet around here
02:03 chris_n2 @quote random
02:03 munin chris_n2: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 01:55 AM, June 12, 2009)
03:08 brendan @wunder 93117
03:08 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.9�C (8:03 PM PDT on October 25, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Rising).
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04:16 Mehwish Hi all
04:17 Mehwish I am new to koha and linux
04:17 Mehwish can any one tell me exact meaning of this command
04:17 Mehwish perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log
04:17 Mehwish I want to upgrade my Koha..
04:31 Mehwish hello all
04:31 Mehwish is there any one to help me writting a few commands..
04:47 Mehwish Hi is there any onyone to help me..
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06:51 Ropuch Morning #koha
07:00 hdl_laptop hi magnusenger Ropuch
07:01 magnusenger hi hdl_laptop and the rest of #koha!
07:02 Ropuch Hello [;
07:04 Ropuch I've added button for uploading covers to addbiblio, although uploading is insecure for now
07:04 Ropuch http://bagno.be/localcovers.html#button
07:16 chris hi all
07:17 Ropuch Hi chris
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07:22 chris hdl_laptop: do you have access to download.koha.org now?
07:24 hdl_laptop chris : no.
07:24 hdl_laptop But it is quite easy for them to download and make it available on download.koha.org
07:26 chris yeah that is still unacceptable
07:26 chris but i guess we have no choice
07:26 chris i wonder if you want to ask them to remove the old 3.0.4 as people will be getting confused
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07:27 hdl_laptop Will do
07:27 chris cool thanks
07:28 mib_xic744 I need some help regarding z39.50. can any body help me
07:28 chris we won't know until you ask your question :)
07:30 mib_xic744 Im working on koha on window version but z39.50 cant function properly
07:30 chris ahh on windows, i can't help im afraid
07:30 mib_xic744 why?
07:31 mib_xic744 is it because some of my ports r closed or another purpose?
07:31 chris because i havent used windows for 12 years
07:31 Ropuch [;
07:31 chris so i have no idea, it could be anything
07:32 mib_xic744 could u tell me that new version of koha 3 can be best cmpaitable  on which version of linux
07:33 chris i use debian, others use all sorts of different ones
07:33 chris have you used linux much before?
07:33 mib_xic744 no before
07:34 mib_xic744 could u help me for downloading debian for x86
07:34 chris maybe you should ask on the koha-win32 list about your problem
07:34 chris if you havent used linux before, it will be hard for you to get koha going
07:35 mib_xic744 I have asked lot of times but most people suggest me to use latest version of koha on debian
07:35 chris in that case, i suggest finding some guides about installing debian, then get used to linux, then try installing koha
07:36 mib_xic744 ok Im going official site of debain
07:38 chris the other option is to try one of the vmware images
07:38 chris (for learning about koha/linux)
07:38 mib_xic744 sorry Im not getting?
07:42 chris http://contribs.koha.org/exten[…]ns.php?category=9
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08:08 Ropuch mib_xic744: try ubuntu/linux mint: easy start and lots of tutorials on ubuntu+koha
08:10 * chris deletes his blog post about ben ide insulting maori people, ill just chalk it up to him being ignorant instead of malice
08:14 Ropuch I had strange dream night: chris. you've been messaging me continuously saying the a working koha-live-cd is a must and all the translations must be finished by the end of the november
08:14 chris hehe
08:14 chris we have had quite a few working live-cd's
08:14 chris the problem is keeping them up to date
08:15 Ropuch My girlfriend must be right saying I shuold quit perl-digging and just play some Quake ;>
08:15 chris hehe
08:16 Ropuch I will speak about koha by the end of november on OS conference, maybe i can get some people to help me
08:16 chris oh excellent :)
08:16 Ropuch I'm sure there lot's of bored nerds out there
08:17 thd-away is now known as thd
08:17 Ropuch All i have to do i tel them: "I don't thin you can make a working koha live-cd" ;>
08:18 chris the trick is, "I dont thnk you can keep a live cd up to date"
08:18 thd paul_p: are you there?
08:18 paul_p thd. Yep.
08:18 paul_p Hello world
08:18 paul_p (very early in NYC ;-) )
08:18 thd hello paul_p
08:18 thd very late :)
08:18 chris thats what someone needs to do, to keep it up to date, (new releases)
08:19 thd paul_p: what are the authorised values for statut?
08:19 chris Ropuch: maybe if a few people in poland are workng on koha, i can get to visit sometime :)
08:19 paul_p thd: in Unimarc, it's status iirc (but it doesn't matter, it's defined in the framework
08:20 thd paul_p: which framework? where is the file?
08:21 Ropuch chris: when "a few" hits 10 ;-)
08:21 paul_p thd: I mean in the bibliographic framework (or I don't understand your question)
08:21 chris :)
08:21 Ropuch hi paul_p
08:24 thd paul_p: Is there not an authorised_value list named statut as defined in the French UNIMARC framework for 995 $o which is what the framework sets for items.notforloan
08:24 thd ?
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08:34 thd paul_p: In English we have in installer/data/mysql/en/optional/auth_val.sql the following authorised values in the value list NOT_LOAN for use with items.notforloan:
08:34 thd INSERT INTO `authorised_values` (category, authorised_value, lib) ('NOT_LOAN','-1','Ordered');
08:34 thd INSERT INTO `authorised_values` (category, authorised_value, lib) VALUES ('NOT_LOAN','0','');
08:34 thd INSERT INTO `authorised_values` (category, authorised_value, lib) VALUES ('NOT_LOAN','1','Not For Loan');
08:34 thd INSERT INTO `authorised_values` (category, authorised_value, lib) VALUES ('NOT_LOAN','2','Staff Collection');
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08:34 thd paul_p: What is similarly specified for items.notforloan for French?
08:36 thd paul_p: I do not find authorised value lists committed for French but perhaps you could inform me of what values you use.
08:37 thd hdl_laptop: Perhaps I have confused paul_p.  Do you understand my question above?
08:40 hdl_laptop thd: those values would sound quite sensible, but users like to add others.
08:41 thd hdl_laptop: do you not have a default set which you supply to your customers?
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08:59 kf good morning
09:00 Ropuch Hello kf
09:01 kf hello Ropuch
09:03 chris hi kf
09:03 kf hi chris
09:10 kf restart
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10:10 chris hi nicomo
10:10 nicomo hi chris
10:12 chris made it back with no flight dramas?
10:20 chris_n2 g'morning
10:21 * chris goes to sleep
10:23 chris_n2 g'night chris
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12:16 Nate Good Morning #koha
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12:34 paul_p Hello Nate
12:36 Nate Hi
12:36 Nate Paul
12:40 chris_n howdy #koha
12:41 owen Hello all
12:41 owen nicomo back home again?
12:41 nicomo hi owen
12:41 nicomo yes I am
12:41 nicomo just this morning
12:42 owen I'm really glad you were able to visit us. It was great to meet you in person
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12:44 nicomo Glad I was there too, it's always nice to meet people in person
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12:48 owen Koha.org still says "Koha 3.0.3 Released" in the main body of the page :(
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13:08 * chris_n hates it when FF crashes....
13:09 chris_n but loves the "Restore Previous Session" feature
13:23 owen chris_n++ # for volunteering to be 3.2 Release Maintainer!
13:23 owen I'm excited by the diversity of the volunteers
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13:54 * chris_n passes out virtual donuts to try to generate activity
13:55 * hdl_laptop takes one. And passes ggl donut by ;)
13:59 gmcharlt ggl?
14:01 hdl_laptop http://www.fastcompany.com/blo[…]g-tasty-google-io
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14:16 hdl_laptop hi gmcharlt
14:17 gmcharlt hi hdl_laptop
14:19 Ropuch Whatoyu suggest for resizing images in perl?
14:31 rhcl perlmagick???
14:31 owen Koha is already doing image processing for other things... patron images for instance.
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14:34 Ropuch owen: I've added an otion to have both local stored covers with Amazon/Goolge ones, also added 'Upload cover' button in addbiblio.pl
14:35 owen Yes, Ropuch, I saw that in the IRC log
14:35 wizzyrea ropuch: that's super swank :)
14:35 Ropuch Now need something to handle the oversized images, guess I'll try perlmagiock then
14:39 magnusenger doesn't Koha use GD?
14:42 hdl_laptop magnusenger: yes for patrons
14:43 magnusenger hdl_laptop, Ropuch: wouldn't it be good to use the same thing for patrons and covers?
14:44 Ropuch magnusenger: sure it will, but i have much trouble understing and reusing koha code, it was easier for me to write something from scracth
14:44 Ropuch *understanding
14:45 magnusenger Ropuch: sure, i ws just wondering... ;-)
14:46 Ropuch With my hello-world perl level it took me forever to pass isbn from addbilio.pl to .tmpl ;>
14:47 Ropuch It would be more conveniant to store upload path & url in sysprefs too, but I was was in hurry
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15:47 chris_n Ropuch: the patron card creator will use PerlMagick so it will be a dep for 3.2
15:48 chris_n patron image code will probably not be moved over in an effort to keep the PerlMagick mod as an optional dep
15:49 chris_n there were quite a few protests to using ImageMagick for the patron images originally due to the bulkiness of the module
15:50 chris_n I'd recommend using GD for the covers personally
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15:59 brendan @wunder 93117
15:59 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.7�C (8:54 AM PDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Rising).
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16:23 brendan bug 1993
16:23 munin Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1993 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Task Scheduler Needs Re-write
16:25 wizzyrea brendan : are you looking at that?
16:26 wizzyrea as in, meaning to fix it?
16:27 brendan looking first
16:27 brendan :)
16:28 wizzyrea hee
16:28 wizzyrea it would be ever so helpful >.>
16:28 wizzyrea <.<
16:29 chris_n @wunder 28334
16:29 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 17.0�C (12:19 PM EDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
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16:30 chris_n brendan: It would be good to rewrite it in a platform agnostic fashion
16:30 kf time to go home, already dark outside :( bye #koha :)
16:30 * chris_n munches animal cookies and read the scroll back buffer
16:30 chris_n bye kf
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16:32 wizzyrea mmm cookies
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17:37 brendan wb owen
17:49 chris hmmm
17:50 owen Hmmm?
17:51 paul_p mmmm...
17:51 paul_p mm..mm..mm..
17:51 brendan hmmm...
17:51 brendan I think there is an echo
17:51 paul_p traveling the world :D
17:51 owen Oh, I thought we were tuning up for a barbershop quartet
17:51 * paul_p open the window to check...
17:55 chris just reading the voting thread
17:55 chris how can people take something so simple and complicate the hell out of it
17:55 chris they must train that in library school :-)
17:55 chris_n owen: lol
17:56 chris_n seems pretty simple to me
17:56 hdl_laptop hi chris.
17:57 * chris_n checks to see if 1+1 still = 2
17:57 chris_n or maybe 1+1 == 3... ?
17:58 owen Did the poll register non-votes if I only ranked two choices for a particular question?
17:58 wizzyrea the simplest thought, like the concept of the number one, is an elaborate logical underpinning. The brain has it's own language for testing the structure and consistency of the world.
17:58 wizzyrea (not me, Carl Sagan said that.)
17:59 paul_p imho, someone that ranked XXX as choice #5 means: XXX is my choice only if the 4th others one are impossible
17:59 chris owen that will count as a non-vote for those part of the questions
18:00 chris paul_p: thats how i look at it too
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18:00 zico hi
18:00 chris owen: but i think the non-completed ones are ones that no one entered their name etc in at the end
18:00 paul_p and someone answering : XXX for #1 and nothing for #2, #3 means = I want XXX and nothing else. Definetly
18:00 * chris_n marvels a how hard it is to make a simple choice
18:00 chris and thus should not be counted
18:00 wizzyrea sigh. this shouldn't be that hard
18:00 * chris_n agrees w/paul_p
18:00 chris exactly
18:01 zico i m facing n annoything problem... with BIBLIO record editing
18:01 zico If we change/edit change any of our BIBLIO record then in Staff and OPAC, it displays two same item. If we delete one item then both the item  I tried to solve it by stopping zebraqueue and rebuild_zebra -b -a -r. But, the same things doesn`t changes.
18:01 zico chris: hi
18:01 chris anyway you slice it though, HLT wins short term, new foundation wins long term
18:01 paul_p anyway, we just need to have ONE winner. Being 2nd or 3rd is useless (we won't have a vice-president-foundation :D )
18:02 chris_n so... time to move forward
18:02 wizzyrea "wins" I don't envy anybody who has to wrest the assets from Josh's hands
18:02 * chris reads the raw data
18:03 chris wizzyrea: its unlikely to be possible, but we have to try
18:03 wizzyrea of course we do :)
18:03 chris ah yes, the non completed votes have not entered in name or email address
18:03 zico If we change/edit change any of our BIBLIO record then in Staff and OPAC, it displays two same item. If we delete one item then both the item  I tried to solve it by stopping zebraqueue and rebuild_zebra -b -a -r. But, the same things doesn`t changes.
18:04 chris so shouldnt be counted
18:04 wizzyrea hmm
18:06 chris zico: does it have two rows in the items table in the db?
18:06 Topic for #koha is now discussion channel for the Koha ILS | Final Results of the Koha Foundation Voting: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]e_in_final_survey
18:07 chris_n zico: also running rebuild_zebra -b -a -r -v will give you more output to catch problems with
18:08 zico ok
18:09 zico chris_n: i will run that command there 2morrow
18:14 wizzyrea bug 3417
18:14 munin Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3417 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Items with no checkouts report won't output to a file
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18:15 wizzyrea but 3455
18:15 wizzyrea bug 3455
18:15 munin Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3455 normal, P5, ---, jmf@liblime.com, NEW, Full 245 needs to display in Cart and Lists
18:15 wizzyrea bug 3270
18:15 munin Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3270 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Cancelling a hold request after transfer initiated orphans item
18:16 wizzyrea bug 3288
18:16 munin Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3288 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Transit prompt not immediately triggered after hold is canceled
18:17 wizzyrea bug 3299
18:17 munin Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3299 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Sticky calendar renew date doesn't work
18:18 brendan nice to have munin back
18:18 brendan @wunder 93117
18:18 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 22.9�C (11:15 AM PDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady).
18:18 wizzyrea bug 3203
18:18 munin Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3203 normal, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Some Letters template variables are not available to certain notice types
18:19 wizzyrea I missed him, he's a good friend
18:19 * chris_n hands out bug spray
18:20 brendan %100 deet is the way to handle this
18:21 wizzyrea sorry I know I"m spammy
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18:29 schuster If we were to do some 20 - 30 minute web sessions on new features in 3.2 what would developers/users like to see?
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18:30 pianohacker hello
18:31 chris_n howdy pianohacker
18:31 pianohacker hi, chris_n
18:31 pianohacker what are you up to?
18:31 schuster Hey!  Played anything challenging lately besides PERL?  My 8 year old is playing piano, and my wife is about to give up on him.
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18:39 chris schuster: what do you mean, explaining the new features in the 3.2 release?
18:39 chris schuster: and did you see i created a role i think you would be great at for the 3.4 release
18:40 brendan chris almost call it -- "clearinghouse wrangler"
18:40 brendan Manager of who's developing what
18:41 chris brendan: bug wrangler is what its called and yes that is the role
18:42 brendan :)
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18:46 chris_n pianohacker: warming up cold patron card code
18:47 pianohacker oh my, have fun with that
18:47 pianohacker schuster: I'm managing to play a few basic things one-handed :)
18:48 chris_n schuster: my 3 year old is going to do violin shortly... 8-P
18:56 owen chris_n: Voluntarily? ;)
18:57 Ropuch ';>
18:57 chris_n owen: we'll see how long it lasts ;-)
18:58 owen If only my parents had started me on Perl when I was young enough...
18:58 Ropuch hehehe
18:58 Ropuch "Our 3 years Owen is going to start perl class soon"? ;>>
19:16 chris_n lol
19:17 chris_n owen: she actually loves to sing, mess with the piano, and listen to her brother play the violin... so it's sort of an experiment to see if the talent is there
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19:22 richard hi
19:26 Ropuch Hi
19:42 rhcl I think we outta shoot the zebra and get a giraffe.
19:43 chris at work now
19:44 schuster Sorry - meetings since I made the last post.
19:45 schuster For example we had quite a discussion last thursday or Friday about the rfc in 3.2 for http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]c32_multiple_opac
19:46 schuster We have it running so I could talk about how that is setup and it works in Plano.
19:46 schuster wizzyrea might talk about how the holds works that they sponsored
19:46 chris the first thing to find out is what you are running in Plano
19:46 chris and is it all in git.koha.org
19:46 chris and if so, then yep that would be awesome
19:46 schuster I might talk about the overdues.pl development work we did and why.
19:47 chris sounds good
19:47 schuster Yes it is all in git.koha.org - gmcharlt made sure before he left.
19:47 chris excellent, well done that man
19:47 schuster yep
19:47 schuster karma gmcharlt ++
19:47 chris @karma gmcharlt
19:47 munin chris: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 57 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 57.
19:47 chris gmchart++
19:47 schuster ok thanks..
19:48 schuster We have a webex type tool that our executive director gave me approval to use so people can share their desktop etc... - session can be recorded chat box etc.
19:49 chris cool, iirc webex doesnt work with linux too well, so recording would be good
19:49 schuster I also know the developers talked about doing some show me how type stuff and we could open it for.
19:49 schuster Guess it might be a good idea to try the elluminate session with someone using a non windows platform to see how linux works with it.
19:50 schuster It's a java type appl.
19:50 chris when i was at liblime it was a windows only thing, maybe they have fixed it now
19:50 schuster It can carry sound through it too so you don't have to call in.
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19:57 chris rhcl: that error has nothing to do with zebra
19:57 chris Access denied for user 'koda'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at
19:57 chris /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 666.
19:57 chris whatever user you have set for koha to connect as, cant actually connect to the database
20:00 schuster chris I just sent you an email.
20:00 chris cool
20:00 chris lets see if it works
20:01 schuster it says it is totally platform independant. - http://www.elluminate.com/accessibility/index.jsp
20:01 chris hmm chrome doesnt like it
20:02 chris trying firefox
20:02 schuster http://www.elluminate.com/accessibility  when I went to this website it checked to see if I had the ability to run it
20:02 chris firefox is downloading a bunch of .jar files noe
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20:04 chris loading loading :)
20:04 schuster You are half way around the world...
20:04 chris its doing something now
20:05 schuster I see you.
20:07 chris yep that seems to work ok
20:10 schuster neat...
20:11 schuster So chris are you officially the 3.4 release manager?
20:11 chris nope
20:12 chris we will have to have a meeting and a vote and stuff, im just working on collecting nominations/proposals etc
20:12 schuster Just found the roles page.
20:12 chris so that ppl can do educated votes
20:12 chris cool
20:13 chris so we have at least one person volunteering for each, except bug wrangler ... and 2 for translation manager, i hope we get more volunteers
20:13 chris ill probably email the list after the next meeting early next month
20:16 schuster Ah...
20:17 schuster Yes I see the bug rangler - I'm learning to use bugzilla more, but still need to figure out why it does some things ...
20:17 chris its more a communications/project management than a technical role
20:17 chris more pestering people to close bugs that patches have been sent for etc :)
20:18 schuster Yep - you know me...  I try to communicate sometimes not the best inglesh (:))
20:18 chris :-)
20:20 schuster I see some RFC's already up there - do we comment right on the RFC or how does that work?
20:21 chris thats exactly how you do it
20:30 schuster so is the next development meeting Oct 29th or Nov 4th? - http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]es09oct07#summary
20:31 chris both :)
20:31 chris there is a foundation one on the 28th
20:31 chris then a general one on the 4th
20:31 chris (the general one is where we talk about 3.2, 3.0 and 3.4)
20:32 chris the foundation one will be, ok so hlt won, what do we do now
20:32 schuster OK thanks - on the wiki it talks about meeting notes - Nov 4th but the meeting is "scheduled" for Oct 29
20:34 chris ill ask gmcharlt when i see him, and we should probably do a mail to the list reminding people
20:34 schuster There isn't a time noted and that is always my problem! :)
20:34 gmcharlt yeah, I"m not sure were October 29th came from, unless it was a foundation forming meeting
20:34 gmcharlt November 4th (first Wednesday of the month) is the general meeting
20:35 schuster Maybe it was just a copy paste typo.
20:38 chris_n PDF::Reuse stinks >:-/
20:39 chris_n of course it could be my perl that stinks ;-)
20:39 kieran is now known as kieran-away
20:39 wizzyrea chris_n I doubt it
20:40 chris thats 2 emails this morning that chris_n have answered the same :)
20:41 chris_n heh
20:41 chris_n they say great minds get stuck in the same rut...
20:43 chris_n chris: try perl -e 'print $PDF::Reuse::Util::font_widths{Courier};'
20:43 chris_n and let me know what it says if you have a moment
20:44 chris nothing
20:45 * chris_n wonders what he is missing
20:45 chris_n it "should" say '600'
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20:53 chris_n opps... namespace problems.... I guess
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21:42 brendan @wunder 93117
21:42 munin` brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 25.6�C (2:40 PM PDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling). High wind watch in effect from Tuesday morning through Wednesday morning...
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21:42 pianohacker hmm, not bad
21:42 pianohacker munin: weather 81212
21:42 pianohacker @wunder 81212
21:43 munin` pianohacker: The current temperature in Franklin Ave - Downtown, Canon City, Colorado is 11.5�C (3:40 PM MDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Falling).
21:46 brendan heya pianohacker
21:50 pianohacker hi brendan, how's it going?
21:50 brendan hanging in there
21:56 owen Hey, swank new site brendan!
21:56 brendan thanks owen
21:57 brendan @wunder Athens, Ohio
21:57 munin` brendan: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 19.4�C (5:46 PM EDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady).
21:57 brendan not bad
21:58 owen Nice fall weather. The kids are doing a downtown trick-or-treat this evening
21:58 * owen is working instead :(
21:58 brendan :(
21:58 owen ...for a few more minutes at least :)
21:59 brendan We have the same issues with halloween around here that you have
21:59 brendan UCSB is the second largest undergrad party
21:59 brendan all the roads around here get blocked off starting thursday
22:01 chris ahhh
22:02 * chris still has his halloween in athens tshirt
22:03 thd is now known as thd-away
22:03 brendan I attended one Halloween in Athens -- was a crazy time
22:05 owen Okay, now it's quittin' time! See y'all later
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22:58 brendan bug 2532
22:58 munin` Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2532 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Patron-requested holds limited to one item per bib.
23:16 brendan @wunder 93117
23:16 munin` brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 24.5�C (4:11 PM PDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Falling). High wind watch in effect from Tuesday morning through Wednesday morning...
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23:27 chris_n2 @wunder 28335
23:27 munin` chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 15.0�C (7:19 PM EDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
23:28 chris_n2 hi brendan
23:28 brendan hi chris_n2
23:29 brendan have you heard of anyone working on a batch/bulk delete
23:31 chris_n2 no
23:31 chris_n2 sounds useful
23:32 brendan yeah me too
23:32 brendan agreed
23:32 brendan it could be and doesn't sound that crazy of a process to me either
23:32 * chris_n2 is plodding through the catalyst tutorial
23:32 brendan have a link?
23:32 chris_n2 probably would not be hard to impliment
23:33 chris_n2 http://search.cpan.org/~hkclar[…]nual/Tutorial.pod
23:33 chris_n2 I'm just about through ch 5 on authentication
23:34 * chris_n2 is liking catalyst very much atm
23:35 chris_n2 koha could greatly benefit from such a framework
23:53 chris yep its in the long term plan
23:53 chris first step, get in db abstraction and template toolkit
23:53 chris then moving a module at a time to a framework

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