| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:10 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 12:11 |
|
paul_p |
morning chris ! |
| 12:11 |
|
chris |
hi paul, sleep well? |
| 12:12 |
|
paul_p |
chris: yep. time to go to bathroom, then lunch now (nahuel still sleeping) |
| 12:14 |
|
chris |
yep shower for me then breakfast |
| 12:17 |
|
kf |
good morning texas :) |
| 12:41 |
|
slef |
davi yoyo |
| 12:42 |
|
davi |
hi slef |
| 12:42 |
|
davi |
restarting X |
| 12:42 |
|
davi |
sorry |
| 12:42 |
|
slef |
np |
| 12:43 |
|
slef |
just wondered if all was well in the state of davi |
| 12:43 |
|
davi |
hardware sucks :P First mainboard, now ATI graphic driver :P |
| 12:43 |
|
slef |
amen! |
| 12:56 |
|
chris |
morning gmcharlt |
| 13:00 |
|
chris |
morning gmcharlt :) |
| 13:00 |
|
eiro |
hello all |
| 13:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi chris |
| 13:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi eiro |
| 13:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
still getting myself situated this morning |
| 13:00 |
|
chris |
sleep well gmcharlt ? |
| 13:00 |
|
chris |
hi eiro :) |
| 13:01 |
|
eiro |
perl question: sub x { my $foo = qr{foo|bar}; /$foo/ }; x;x;x;x |
| 13:01 |
|
eiro |
is $foo compiled 4 times ? |
| 13:02 |
|
chris |
hmm good question, i don't know off the top of my head |
| 13:02 |
|
eiro |
i tried perl -O=Concise -e 'sub x { my $foo = qr{foo|bar}; /$foo/ }; x;x;x;x' but i have to admit that i didn't understood :) |
| 13:02 |
|
eiro |
that's why i want to use a closure. |
| 13:04 |
|
jdavidb |
Mornin', gmcharlt, nahuel. |
| 13:04 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi jdavidb |
| 13:06 |
|
chris |
hi jdavidb |
| 13:06 |
|
eiro |
m//o to compile only once ( from perlop ) |
| 13:06 |
|
chris |
ahh of course |
| 13:07 |
|
nahuel |
hi :) |
| 13:08 |
|
eiro |
i remeber this modifier but i thought it was deprecated for a while ... at least in the while (<>) { say if /foo/ } case |
| 13:11 |
|
slef |
Oracle buying Sun (Sun bought MySQL a while ago IIRC). slashdot linked to oracle.com which now says "Content Server Request Failed. Server is too busy to handle request." to me. |
| 13:11 |
|
slef |
http://developers.slashdot.org[…]d=09/04/20/128246 |
| 13:12 |
|
chris |
yep time to ressurect the postgres work (which i was planning to anyway) |
| 13:12 |
|
chris |
of course using DBI::Class would make the move easier too |
| 13:14 |
|
eiro |
did you choose an orm ? |
| 13:15 |
|
chris |
not yet, the idea is people to do some prototyping |
| 13:16 |
|
jdavidb |
SAP has modified MaxDB's "community" license to not be very open; I was hoping to play with that as an alternative to MySQL, but it doesn't seem very likely I will. |
| 13:16 |
|
slef |
is orm 4.0 stuff? |
| 13:16 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 13:16 |
|
chris |
eiro: until we can find a clear winner |
| 13:17 |
|
hdl_laptop |
chris: still in TX ? |
| 13:17 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi gmcharlt |
| 13:18 |
|
eiro |
i played with lot of and have my idea on the best one ... but moose is required to i think we can't use it as long as koha use CGI mode |
| 13:18 |
|
chris |
yes, hdl_laptop i am eating breakfast with paul and nahuel |
| 13:18 |
|
eiro |
but i feel i'm alone to be affraid of CGIs, so ... |
| 13:19 |
|
chris |
well i am typing and they are eating :) |
| 13:19 |
|
chris |
we also discussed mod_perl |
| 13:19 |
|
chris |
i think we need some prototypes/proof of concepts |
| 13:21 |
|
chris |
eiro: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]devweekendprogram |
| 13:22 |
|
chris |
tried to take notes, but was busy talking also |
| 13:22 |
|
eiro |
:) |
| 13:27 |
|
hdl_laptop |
chris: is DBI::Class better choice than DBIx::Class ? |
| 13:27 |
|
hdl_laptop |
has there been any tests on that ? |
| 13:28 |
|
chris |
sorry DBIx::Class |
| 13:29 |
|
chris |
seems to be the current winner |
| 13:29 |
|
hdl_laptop |
mmm so typo on the wiki. |
| 13:47 |
|
chris |
ok coffee time :) |
| 13:47 |
|
nicomo |
nahuel : entered bug 3144 (recaptcha) |
| 13:57 |
|
slef |
commented on kohabug 3144 suggesting anti-spam instead of recaptcha |
| 13:59 |
|
nicomo |
slef: reCaptach does have substitute for the visually impaired |
| 13:59 |
|
nicomo |
see http://recaptcha.net/ |
| 14:00 |
|
slef |
nicomo: as a visually-impaired person, I tell you it doesn't work. |
| 14:00 |
|
slef |
the substitute is a hearing test, isn't it? |
| 14:00 |
|
slef |
hearing tests have a higher failure rate than eyetests |
| 14:01 |
|
slef |
and then you get people like me who also both impaired eyesight and hearing |
| 14:01 |
|
slef |
so please use anti-spam before resorting to ability discrimination |
| 14:02 |
|
nicomo |
slef come on I'm not "resorting to ability discrimination" |
| 14:02 |
|
nicomo |
I was merely suggesting a solution |
| 14:03 |
|
nicomo |
but what i'm perfectly happy with you edit |
| 14:03 |
|
nicomo |
and to tell you the truth couldn't care less which solution we end up using |
| 14:03 |
|
slef |
thanks... I think too many web devs reach for recaptcha when they want antispam |
| 14:03 |
|
nicomo |
as long as it provides the functionality |
| 14:04 |
|
nicomo |
yes they do |
| 14:04 |
|
nicomo |
for good reasons |
| 14:04 |
|
slef |
because they don't realise that eyetests and hearing tests are ability discrimination |
| 14:04 |
|
nicomo |
i do realize this |
| 14:04 |
|
slef |
no, because it's easier |
| 14:04 |
|
slef |
it's lazy |
| 14:04 |
|
nicomo |
yes, eh eh that was my point |
| 14:04 |
|
slef |
it's anti-social and unjust |
| 14:04 |
|
nicomo |
ease and lazyness are "good" reasons |
| 14:05 |
|
jdavidb |
Naah...assume cluelessness, not malice. I get that all the time, with my mobility issues. |
| 14:05 |
|
slef |
they should not override non-discrimination |
| 14:05 |
|
nicomo |
jdavidb: ++ |
| 14:06 |
|
slef |
jdavidb: I try to. BTW, google use a wheelchair by their eyetests to offer a hearing test instead... bizarre. |
| 14:06 |
|
jdavidb |
People don't think about problems that don't relate to them pretty directly, much of the time, unless they're paid to do so, or have a passion for that sort of thing--and the vast majority don't. |
| 14:06 |
|
nicomo |
jdavidb: not that easy |
| 14:06 |
|
slef |
I spotted a good captcha bug yesterday: "Human test: is this website red or green?" |
| 14:07 |
|
nicomo |
because for instance recatpcha *claims* to have solutions for the impaired |
| 14:07 |
|
jdavidb |
Clearly, someone didn't think about color-blindness, slef... |
| 14:07 |
|
slef |
nicomo: I think, last I checked, if you actually go into the research papers from recaptcha, they admit that impaired access is an unsolved problem. |
| 14:08 |
|
slef |
nicomo: but that seems to be missing from the headlines |
| 14:08 |
|
jdavidb |
nicomo: sure...they assume good-faith on the part of recaptcha, and it might even have been built in good faith as an attempt to have a solution... but the attempt fails, apparently. |
| 14:08 |
|
nicomo |
yes it does, indeed |
| 14:08 |
|
slef |
recaptcha has made me think that CMU may be evil |
| 14:19 |
|
hdl_laptop |
slef: are you talking about french CMU ? |
| 14:20 |
|
liz_nekls |
chairman wow... monday morning cage fight GO |
| 14:20 |
|
slef |
hdl_laptop: no, cmu.edu |
| 14:21 |
|
slef |
liz_nekls: ? |
| 14:21 |
|
slef |
hdl_laptop: cmu.edu are the org behind recaptcha.net IIRC |
| 14:22 |
|
liz_nekls |
just surprised to walk into such a debate so early (well, early for me anyway) on a monday |
| 14:23 |
|
slef |
hdl_laptop: frenchies are among the leading captcha-debunkers IIRC. http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/PWNtcha was published in France |
| 14:23 |
|
slef |
liz_nekls: ah, it's mid-afternoon here. I've had Monday morning avalanche already. |
| 14:27 |
|
liz_nekls |
hee |
| 14:32 |
|
gmcharlt |
back on channel - hopefully wifi won't keep bouncing up and down here |
| 14:32 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: you and davi ... it's yoyoday. |
| 14:37 |
|
elwell |
/ignore #koha JOINS PARTS QUITS works for me :-) |
| 14:53 |
|
slef |
et tu, brendan? |
| 14:57 |
|
chris |
back |
| 15:06 |
|
chris |
we have taken over the breakfast room |
| 15:06 |
|
chris |
all you can hear is the sound of the cleaner mopping, and typing |
| 15:07 |
|
jdavidb |
That meeting room was just a bit crowded and stuffy on Saturday; I was thinking of the breakfast room, at one point. |
| 15:08 |
|
chris |
yeah there is a bit more space .. yesterday was about the right amount of people for the meeting room |
| 15:09 |
|
jdavidb |
If a couple of people want to go off in a corner to hack on something (as I saw atz doing on Saturday), there really wasn't quite enough room for that in the board room. Breakfast room would be ample for that. |
| 15:14 |
|
chris |
this is true |
| 15:14 |
|
chris |
lots of power points also |
| 15:16 |
|
slef |
blah - PTFS ran a seminar last Friday almost within line-of-sight of my office - now I'm getting to hear about it :( |
| 15:17 |
|
slef |
I'm in a deep blue funk. I think I'll buy stuff online to alleviate it ;-) |
| 15:18 |
|
jdavidb |
Good idea! |
| 15:28 |
|
slef |
that didn't work. I'll try moving some money around instead |
| 15:28 |
|
jdavidb |
slef: If moving some my way would make you feel better, that can be arranged! ;-) |
| 15:43 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
can someone tell me if http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]5948a840b7951b9d4 was supposed to work across all dropdowns that list branches? |
| 15:43 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
or just certain ones? |
| 15:45 |
|
hdl_laptop |
it seems it is dealing with only ones. |
| 15:45 |
|
hdl_laptop |
liz_nekls_: I think I sent a patch for other pages. |
| 15:46 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
link? if you have a moment? |
| 15:47 |
|
gmcharlt |
liz_nekls_: it's part of the way, but not all the way |
| 15:47 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
k, we found an instance in the cataloging where that same fix will need to be applied |
| 15:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
that plus the patch that hdl_laptop is talking about should fix the problem |
| 15:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
liz_nekls_: 2664? |
| 15:49 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
that, and additionally they are sorted nonsensically (name vs. code) |
| 15:51 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
i added that to the bug, gmcharlt |
| 16:03 |
|
chris |
morning schuster |
| 16:03 |
|
atz |
http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]cs/git-reset.html |
| 16:03 |
|
caj |
thanks |
| 16:10 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
chris: you still in the states? |
| 16:12 |
|
chris |
yep, its 4.12am at home :) i leave tomorrow |
| 16:12 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
Ooh |
| 16:13 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
so are you getting on home-time? |
| 16:14 |
|
chris |
not yet, maximising my time left with the developers, i hope it wont be 3 years again until im with paul again, but just in case, making the most of it :) |
| 16:14 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
hehe good idea |
| 16:29 |
|
chris |
hi sekjal |
| 16:30 |
|
sekjal |
hello. |
| 17:00 |
|
schuster |
Paul and Chris still online? |
| 17:00 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 17:00 |
|
slef |
chris was |
| 17:00 |
|
slef |
hehe |
| 17:00 |
|
schuster |
Have you all done lunch or what are your plans? |
| 17:01 |
|
chris |
ahh no plans as of yet |
| 17:01 |
|
schuster |
OK didn't want to drive over and nobody there... are you all planning to work more this afternoon? |
| 17:03 |
|
schuster |
I'll head that way then see you in say 15? |
| 17:04 |
|
chris |
yeah, those of us who are left, galen, joe and cory have to drop the rental car back by 3.30 |
| 17:04 |
|
chris |
but there will be 5 of us left |
| 17:04 |
|
chris |
sounds good |
| 17:04 |
|
schuster |
ok see you shortly. |
| 17:40 |
|
caj |
see everybody from the airport - if wireless works |
| 19:08 |
|
chris |
and then there were 5 |
| 19:15 |
|
jdavidb |
Hi, paul_p! :) It was great meeting you at KohaCon! |
| 21:08 |
|
liz_nekls |
is very quiet |
| 21:53 |
|
liz_nekls |
I am SO SAD that owen is not here right now |
| 21:58 |
|
liz_nekls |
does anybody know... if you have custom templates will the intranetuserjs work? |
| 21:58 |
|
liz_nekls |
(as in, you have templates not in the prog directory) |
| 22:03 |
|
chris |
and then there were 5 |
| 22:03 |
|
chris |
hmm up arrow fail |
| 22:07 |
|
chris |
liz_nekls: not sure, can u try it and see? |
| 22:19 |
|
Headiee |
hi, by any change someone using the libki system? |
| 22:19 |
|
Headiee |
chance |
| 22:19 |
|
Headiee |
or luck |
| 22:19 |
|
Headiee |
:) |
| 22:31 |
|
Sharon |
liz-nekls went home, but she left excited about intranetuserjs |
| 22:32 |
|
Headiee |
ok, cause i almost have it running |
| 22:32 |
|
Headiee |
but not quite yet |
| 22:57 |
|
nahuel |
http://kohakenya.wordpress.com |
| 22:59 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 23:00 |
|
Sharon |
wordpress rocks almost as much as koha |
| 23:00 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 23:04 |
|
nahuel |
but |
| 23:04 |
|
nahuel |
quiet strange we didn't heard about them before |
| 23:04 |
|
chris |
ahh i have heard of them before |
| 23:04 |
|
nahuel |
they have some koha installations |
| 23:04 |
|
nahuel |
ah ok |
| 23:04 |
|
nahuel |
didn't know |
| 23:04 |
|
nahuel |
:) |
| 23:04 |
|
nahuel |
chris, i'm walking over your hears :) |
| 23:05 |
|
nahuel |
ears |
| 23:05 |
|
chris |
http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]oha-users-groups/ |
| 23:06 |
|
chris |
but it is not unusual to find new groups |
| 23:06 |
|
nahuel |
yep |
| 23:06 |
|
nahuel |
but it's strange they're not taking part of the "official" project |
| 23:06 |
|
nahuel |
and keep inside of their network |
| 23:07 |
|
chris |
lots are doing that, koha-taiwan etc, i think we want to add a page to the koha.org site listing user groups |
| 23:07 |
|
chris |
and encourage them to keep in touch |
| 23:09 |
|
Sharon |
Chris I'm a notorious note taker |
| 23:10 |
|
nahuel |
chris++ |
| 23:10 |
|
chris |
you are invited to all my meetings then :) |
| 23:10 |
|
Sharon |
Just finished a HUGE post for our member libraries about 60+ patches we just got |
| 23:10 |
|
chris |
awesome, about the post and the 60+ patches |
| 23:12 |
|
Sharon |
took 4 of us 6 hours to go through them all for testing and so Liz could explain what template changes she had to make |
| 23:13 |
|
chris |
thats a lot of patches |
| 23:14 |
|
chris |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wizzyrea/3447477286/ <-- still one of my fave photos in the ones tagged kohacon09 |
| 23:16 |
|
Sharon |
they look like ants! We were with Kathryn that day, so I think she took some pics, too. |
| 23:18 |
|
chris |
cool, im so glad she managed to get her camera back |
| 23:19 |
|
Sharon |
well, it's 6 here, so I'm going home. Safe journeys. |
| 00:43 |
|
pianohacker |
hello |
| 03:07 |
|
chris |
hello pianohacker :) |
| 03:18 |
|
pianohacker |
Ah, hello ! |
| 03:19 |
|
pianohacker |
If you're still awake, no, in northern texas |
| 03:19 |
|
pianohacker |
Will finish drive tomorrow |
| 03:19 |
|
pianohacker |
What have you been up to? |
| 03:20 |
|
Amit |
hi chris, mason |
| 03:21 |
|
pianohacker |
hi, amit |
| 03:21 |
|
Amit |
hi pianohacker |
| 03:24 |
|
chris |
pianohacker: shopping mostly, and a little bit of hacking |
| 03:24 |
|
chris |
not many of us left, and we all fly out tomorrow |
| 03:24 |
|
pianohacker |
Yeah |
| 03:25 |
|
pianohacker |
Have you and paul found the requested items for your wives? :) |
| 03:25 |
|
chris |
i think paul didnt find a watch he liked, but i have all mine :) |
| 03:25 |
|
Amit |
hi chris |
| 03:25 |
|
pianohacker |
Hah, should be safe to return home then |
| 03:26 |
|
chris |
yep :) |
| 03:28 |
|
chris |
right time for some sleep, so i dont fall asleep in the airport somewhere and miss a flight |
| 03:29 |
|
chris |
cya in a couple of days |
| 03:32 |
|
pianohacker |
Sorry, system crash |
| 04:41 |
|
Amit |
hi greenmang0 |
| 04:41 |
|
greenmang0 |
Amit: |
| 04:41 |
|
Amit |
yes |
| 04:54 |
|
pianohacker |
Good night, all. |
| 10:46 |
|
Amit |
hi any one configure pazpar2? |
