| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:01 |
|
fbcit-away |
tnx for catching my mistake kados :) |
| 12:14 |
|
nengard |
hi all - i'm wondering if this fix is set up right http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1939 - on my test OPAC I have news showing up on my main opac page - and so this field shows up below that .... just wondering |
| 12:32 |
|
nengard |
morning owen |
| 12:32 |
|
owen |
Hi |
| 12:32 |
|
nengard |
i think this question if for you: |
| 12:32 |
|
nengard |
i'm wondering if this fix is set up right http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1939 - on my test OPAC I have news showing up on my main opac page - and so this field shows up below that .... just wondering |
| 12:34 |
|
owen |
http://oleonard.dev.kohalibrar[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
| 12:35 |
|
owen |
Does it not look right to you? Not what you expected? |
| 12:37 |
|
nengard |
I guess it does look better on yours :) |
| 12:37 |
|
nengard |
here's mine: http://opac-nce.dev.kohalibrary.com/ |
| 12:38 |
|
nengard |
i think it's a-ok the way it is - it's probably easy for individual libraries to customize if they need |
| 12:38 |
|
owen |
The idea was to leave a big blank canvas for libraries to customize, rather than try to come up with something to fill the space with that would apply to everyone |
| 12:40 |
|
kados |
g'morning #koha |
| 12:44 |
|
owen |
Hi kados |
| 12:52 |
|
nengard |
2 more preferences that sound the same to me - opaclayoutstylesheet and opacstylesheet both say it should be the layout css file ... are they they same or different - if the same which is the right one? |
| 12:55 |
|
owen |
Note that opacstylesheet says "a complete URL to use an alternate layout stylesheet" |
| 12:55 |
|
owen |
That means that opacstylesheet is a complete replacement for the default opac stylesheets, and you're hosting that file somewhere else |
| 12:55 |
|
owen |
It might be used by a library that doesn't have access to the server Koha is hosted on, but want to make style changes |
| 12:56 |
|
owen |
opaclayoutstylesheet points to a local css file |
| 13:01 |
|
kados |
hey ccatalfo |
| 13:01 |
|
ccatalfo |
hey all |
| 13:03 |
|
gmcharlt |
greetings #koha |
| 13:05 |
|
nengard |
owen thanks!! |
| 13:13 |
|
nengard |
question: OPACSubscriptionDisplay - has 3 values - but doesn't tell me what each value does - I checked help ... but nothing ... is there somewhere else to check? |
| 13:34 |
|
hdl |
hi* |
| 13:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi hdl |
| 13:44 |
|
owen |
nengard: maybe hdl knows the answer to your OPACSubscriptionDisplay question? |
| 13:44 |
|
nengard |
hdl: OPACSubscriptionDisplay - has 3 values - but doesn't tell me what each value does - I checked help ... but nothing ... is there somewhere else to check? |
| 13:44 |
|
nengard |
thanks owen |
| 13:45 |
|
kados |
ccatalfo: all the DNS is set up, it'll take a few hours to propogate |
| 13:45 |
|
kados |
ccatalfo: i've got this 10am call, then I'll get on getting you access to pippin/gandalf to make the switch |
| 13:46 |
|
kados |
oops, wrong channel :-) |
| 13:47 |
|
hdl |
nengard : seems now deprecated. |
| 13:47 |
|
hdl |
There should be 2 possibilities : |
| 13:47 |
|
nengard |
hdl: thanks!! |
| 13:47 |
|
hdl |
short summary |
| 13:47 |
|
hdl |
or |
| 13:47 |
|
hdl |
whole list. |
| 13:48 |
|
nengard |
hdl: what's the difference between the two? |
| 13:50 |
|
hdl |
http://o17.hdlaurent.paulpoula[…]iblionumber=15002 |
| 13:50 |
|
hdl |
clicking on more detail leads you to summary. |
| 13:50 |
|
hdl |
(subscription tab) |
| 13:51 |
|
hdl |
You could be able to see the whole subscription history directly if this systempreference was used. |
| 13:51 |
|
hdl |
Is it OK for you ? |
| 13:53 |
|
hdl |
Set to Off if one donot want to show subscription history. |
| 13:54 |
|
hdl |
(Or if you store it in biblio data) |
| 13:56 |
|
nengard |
got it - so i need to report a bug to have that menu changed to two options instead of three |
| 13:57 |
|
kados |
hdl: btw: I am unable to SSH into Savannah |
| 13:57 |
|
hdl |
:( |
| 13:57 |
|
hdl |
Is there an other way ? |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
hdl: I'm not sure ... maybe the savannah gurus can help? |
| 13:58 |
|
hdl |
will email them. |
| 14:00 |
|
hdl |
http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/UsingGit |
| 14:00 |
|
hdl |
jus FYI |
| 14:02 |
|
hdl |
savannah has been supporting git project since June 2007. |
| 14:12 |
|
hdl |
kados : do you have mailman administrator pasword at savannah ? |
| 14:12 |
|
kados |
hdl: yes |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
hdl: it's a different password for every list |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
hdl: you need those? |
| 14:14 |
|
fbcit |
hello koha |
| 14:15 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi fbcit |
| 14:17 |
|
kados |
hdl: I just emailed it to you |
| 14:17 |
|
hdl |
thx. |
| 14:18 |
|
hdl |
I will see if it helps. |
| 14:27 |
|
owen |
kados: thanks for the tip, re:z39.50 servers. Your fix worked for me. |
| 14:29 |
|
kados |
sweet |
| 14:44 |
|
nengard |
she's back - where was all the documentation for this stuff from before??? Anyway, 'opacthemes' only has one value - how do you add other themes? |
| 14:45 |
|
owen |
it actually checks the filesystem of the server for other directories containing template files |
| 14:45 |
|
owen |
So if you only have one set of template, you only get one choice. |
| 14:46 |
|
nengard |
ahh - so if you want another template you need your sys admin to create a folder for it ... or to create the entire thing |
| 14:48 |
|
owen |
Yes |
| 14:49 |
|
owen |
typical sequence would be to copy the existing template directory into a renamed directory, and edit from there |
| 14:50 |
|
owen |
...But it's a long and complicated process to re-write templates, so it's not recommended |
| 14:51 |
|
owen |
kados, I'm still concerned about Bug 1195. For example: http://oleonard.dev.kohalibrar[…]?biblionumber=507 |
| 14:51 |
|
owen |
How is the user to determine that the record is for a web page, and not for a book with no items which happens to have an online resource link? |
| 14:52 |
|
owen |
You'd have to read through the info in the descriptions tab |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
owen: ryan and I discussed this |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
the solution we're going to propose is to add a few new fields to the bib-level record |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
so that you could have different record 'types' |
| 14:53 |
|
kados |
and those types would have different display options |
| 14:53 |
|
kados |
so a web resource shouldn't need to have a holdings tab |
| 14:53 |
|
owen |
That sounds good. This would be in user-defined MARC tags? |
| 14:53 |
|
kados |
we haven't decided how to do it ye |
| 14:53 |
|
kados |
t |
| 14:54 |
|
kados |
but as it turns out, Dublin Core has done quite a bit of work in this area, so we will likely be looking closely at some of the paradigms they provide for |
| 14:55 |
|
kados |
acmoore: congrats on your first patch! and first Bugfix (1801)! |
| 14:56 |
|
nengard |
owen: mom answered your question: http://www.web2learning.net/archives/1629 |
| 14:56 |
|
acmoore |
Thanks! I think I'll take the rest of the day off! |
| 14:56 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 14:58 |
|
hdl |
kados : Dublin core detail save donot throw valid XML. |
| 14:59 |
|
nengard |
acmoore: i have plenty more for you - no taking the day off :) hehe |
| 15:03 |
|
acmoore |
grrr. OK. ;) |
| 15:07 |
|
owen |
kados, re: bug 1732. At some point we talked about using "on shelf" instead of "available." Either that never happened or it got lost along the way |
| 15:08 |
|
kados |
right |
| 15:08 |
|
kados |
I was pretty sure we did implement it |
| 15:08 |
|
kados |
maybe it got reverted :/ |
| 15:13 |
|
owen |
I think the "Editions" tab should be hidden if there are no editions. What do y'all think? |
| 15:14 |
|
kados |
owen: yes |
| 15:19 |
|
owen |
Shouldn't the editions feature exclude the record itself from the list of editions? |
| 15:20 |
|
kados |
owen: if you say so :-) |
| 15:20 |
|
kados |
owen: can you file a bug for that and assign to me? |
| 15:20 |
|
owen |
Sure |
| 15:21 |
|
kados |
owen: I will fix that immediately since I know you're working on it right now |
| 15:35 |
|
nengard |
okay this should be an easy one: OPACURLOpenInNewWindow - this means URLs from the 856? or other URLs as well? |
| 15:37 |
|
atz |
doesn't get used anywhere, actually |
| 15:37 |
|
nengard |
atz - okey dokey - another bug report then? |
| 15:37 |
|
atz |
yeah, i think so |
| 15:37 |
|
nengard |
what about this one: OPACUserCSS - the value is 0 in my system |
| 15:37 |
|
nengard |
how is this dff from the many other css fieds? |
| 15:38 |
|
atz |
same story... gets installed, doesn't get used |
| 15:38 |
|
atz |
they may be holdovers from earlier versions |
| 15:39 |
|
nengard |
okay .... one reported bug: #1951 |
| 15:40 |
|
nengard |
another reported #1952 |
| 15:41 |
|
kados |
owen: pushed up a patch for that |
| 15:41 |
|
kados |
owen: also added a little metadata tag to toe top of every page so we can start tracking kohas in teh wild |
| 15:41 |
|
kados |
<meta name="generator" content="Koha 3.0000066" /> <!-- leave this for stats --> |
| 15:41 |
|
owen |
Sneaky |
| 15:42 |
|
owen |
That should force links from 856 urls to open in new window? |
| 15:42 |
|
kados |
it's one of Ryans |
| 15:42 |
|
kados |
owen: yes, feel free to add the feature if you have a moment |
| 15:43 |
|
owen |
Will do |
| 15:43 |
|
kados |
owen++ |
| 15:44 |
|
owen |
Anyone else having a problem with the BiblioDefaultView pref? Mine is set to normal but I keep getting links to ISBD |
| 15:44 |
|
nengard |
owen, kados: am I assigning these things right? they're in the system preferences so i keep picking sys admin - but that doesn't seem right to me |
| 15:45 |
|
owen |
It's fine, nengard. It's just that sometimes it comes down to an interface issue which I can fix. |
| 15:45 |
|
kados |
nengard: it's correct |
| 15:45 |
|
nengard |
great! |
| 15:51 |
|
owen |
I see, because the variable has been changed to IntranetBiblioDefaultView. I wonder if that's a bug or if it's just me. |
| 15:53 |
|
tim |
Would we have to upgrade to 2.2.9 before upgrading to 3.0? We're on 2.2.5 now. |
| 16:08 |
|
nengard |
next: what's opacuserjs - just a js file for librarians to enter if they want - and if so is it just the filename or a full URL |
| 16:10 |
|
owen |
opacuserjs is where users can enter a block of javascript to be embedded globally in pages in the OPAC |
| 16:10 |
|
owen |
So it's not looking for a filename, it's looking for actual Javascript |
| 16:10 |
|
owen |
<!-- TMPL_IF NAME="opacuserjs" --> |
| 16:10 |
|
owen |
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript"> |
| 16:10 |
|
owen |
//<![CDATA[ |
| 16:11 |
|
owen |
<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="opacuserjs" --> |
| 16:11 |
|
owen |
//]]> |
| 16:11 |
|
owen |
</script> |
| 16:11 |
|
owen |
<!-- /TMPL_IF --> |
| 16:13 |
|
nengard |
thanks owen - you're helping me a lot! |
| 16:28 |
|
owen |
In case anyone hasn't seen this yet: http://stuffthathappens.com/bl[…]03/05/simplicity/ |
| 16:31 |
|
kados |
owen: :-) |
| 16:49 |
|
atz |
owen++ |
| 17:15 |
|
ryan |
tim: the upgrade22to30 script should have the same results whether you start with 2.2.5 or 2.2.9 |
| 17:22 |
|
tim |
thanks ryan |
| 17:33 |
|
fbcit |
owen-away: hehe |
| 17:58 |
|
fbcit |
where is BorrowersLog defined? |
| 18:00 |
|
kados |
fbcit: systempreferences? |
| 18:00 |
|
kados |
fbcit: under Logs |
| 18:01 |
|
fbcit |
kados: so in what log are these entries made? |
| 18:03 |
|
kados |
fbcit: it's a table in mysql I believe |
| 18:03 |
|
kados |
hdl might know off hand |
| 18:04 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 18:06 |
|
fbcit |
opps |
| 18:07 |
|
fbcit |
we log everything about a ModMember action except the action?? |
| 18:07 |
|
fbcit |
rather the specifics (aka 'info') about the action? |
| 18:08 |
|
fbcit |
hdl: u around? |
| 18:08 |
|
fbcit |
owen: can you confirm that bug 1695 is still an issue? |
| 18:15 |
|
fbcit |
owen: it should not be with the fq relationship between patronimage.cardnumber and borrower.cardnumber |
| 18:15 |
|
fbcit |
s/fq/fk/ |
| 18:16 |
|
owen |
You're right: it's no longer an issue. |
| 18:19 |
|
fbcit |
not to mention they are faster |
| 18:24 |
|
fbcit |
chris around? |
| 18:26 |
|
fbcit |
kados: are you handling patches koha.org right now? |
| 18:26 |
|
kados |
fbcit: yea |
| 18:26 |
|
fbcit |
if so, disregard the first patch I sent and apply the second |
| 18:27 |
|
kados |
transitionally until hdl and I work out the details of the new QA role |
| 18:27 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 18:34 |
|
kados |
hey indra! |
| 18:53 |
|
owen |
atz? |
| 18:53 |
|
atz |
yep |
| 18:53 |
|
owen |
I'd like to get more info into the listing of titles in a list |
| 18:53 |
|
atz |
in the toolbar, or in the full display? |
| 18:54 |
|
owen |
The full display |
| 18:54 |
|
atz |
kados was already working on this last night, iiuc |
| 18:54 |
|
owen |
Well, great minds think alike then ;) |
| 19:01 |
|
owen |
kados? Is that something you were looking at? |
| 19:07 |
|
kados |
owen: yea, but I haven't done anything about it |
| 19:08 |
|
kados |
I routed one of the bugs over to atz, our resident Lists expert :-) |
| 19:24 |
|
fbcit |
can anyone confirm that a log search based only on date fails in all cases? |
| 19:26 |
|
atz |
fbcit: try setting the date to ISO format |
| 19:27 |
|
atz |
i'm guessing that's one area where the search date isn't being converted |
| 19:27 |
|
fbcit |
its not |
| 19:27 |
|
fbcit |
AND DATE_FORMAT(timestamp, '%Y-%m-%d') >= "03/01/2008" AND DATE_FORMAT(timestamp, '%Y-%m-%d') <= "03/18/2008" |
| 19:28 |
|
atz |
yeah, that's a bug |
| 19:28 |
|
fbcit |
mysql> SELECT * FROM action_logs WHERE object = 4 AND module = 'MEMBERS' AND DATE_FORMAT(timestamp, '%Y-%m-%d') >= "2008-03-01"; works fine |
| 19:28 |
|
fbcit |
is there a function for data conversion? |
| 19:28 |
|
atz |
right, if you set your syspref to use ISO, it magicallly... uh.... doesn't break itself. |
| 19:28 |
|
fbcit |
heh |
| 19:30 |
|
atz |
you want to use something like $iso_date = C4::Dates->new($input,'syspref')->output('iso') |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 19:43 |
|
fbcit |
atz: cool |
| 19:43 |
|
fbcit |
kudos to the C4::Dates people |
| 19:45 |
|
fbcit |
hi chris |
| 19:53 |
|
chris |
atz is the dates people fbcit :-) |
| 20:37 |
|
atz |
kados: so I have a "tag" that maps to a set of biblios |
| 20:38 |
|
atz |
how do I get those biblios to display in the standard search results window? |
| 20:43 |
|
atz |
I don't want some separate results window that looks a lot like it, w/ a bunch of copy/paste code |
| 20:43 |
|
atz |
I suppose I need to modify C4::Search |
| 20:49 |
|
kados |
atz: the tag is stored outside of the biblilo table? |
| 20:49 |
|
kados |
biblio table I mean |
| 20:49 |
|
atz |
yes, since they are user-driven |
| 20:49 |
|
kados |
gotcha |
| 20:49 |
|
kados |
so in that case you'll need to add some code to the searchResults function in Search.pm |
| 20:50 |
|
kados |
to pull those aout into the hash |
| 20:50 |
|
kados |
and then variables (a loop most likely) to display the tags in the opac |
| 20:50 |
|
kados |
need to be added to the template |
| 20:50 |
|
atz |
yeah the display is already there |
| 20:50 |
|
atz |
the only thing that doesn't exist is the right behavior when I click on the tag |
| 20:51 |
|
atz |
i.e., show me everything w/ that tag |
| 20:51 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 20:51 |
|
kados |
yea, that's gonna be trickier |
| 20:51 |
|
atz |
i can get the query fine |
| 20:52 |
|
atz |
I just can't force Search to search based on it... |
| 20:52 |
|
kados |
yea, so you get a list of bibs |
| 20:52 |
|
atz |
it gets into zebra issues also |
| 20:52 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 20:52 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 20:52 |
|
atz |
right, i get a list (potentially hundreds or thousands) or biblionumbers |
| 20:52 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 20:52 |
|
atz |
*of |
| 20:53 |
|
kados |
so I didn't write searchResults, but that's the function that takes a list of bibs and returns a formatable set of objects |
| 20:53 |
|
kados |
s/objects/hashes/ |
| 20:53 |
|
kados |
IIRC |
| 20:53 |
|
atz |
ah, ok... so I can co-opt that |
| 20:53 |
|
kados |
should be able to |
| 20:53 |
|
kados |
search.pl will give you some ideas how to do it |
| 20:54 |
|
atz |
cool, that would be fine... it's weird to be in the position of having the bibnums already |
| 20:54 |
|
kados |
in fact, if you could build it into search.pl that'd be the best |
| 20:54 |
|
kados |
yea, exactly |
| 20:55 |
|
atz |
ok, I'll see what I can get moving |
| 21:24 |
|
irma |
Hi all |
| 21:24 |
|
irma |
I would like to ask a question about the ISBN-13 and qualifiers |
| 21:26 |
|
irma |
Could someone pls run me through the steps to change: vachar (14) to a longer field to accommodate the qualifiers? |
| 21:27 |
|
atz |
do you know the sql you would use to create a new column of the appropriate size? |
| 21:28 |
|
irma |
in the biblioitems table |
| 21:28 |
|
irma |
? |
| 21:29 |
|
atz |
whatever table you say the varchar(14) comes from |
| 21:30 |
|
irma |
Not me "atz" but I can ask a programmer |
| 21:31 |
|
atz |
yeah, basically to make the change you would be writing SQL |
| 21:33 |
|
atz |
it seems like this kind of thing would be accounted for already. what constitutes a "qualifier" for ISBN 13? |
| 21:33 |
|
irma |
(hardcover) for example |
| 21:33 |
|
irma |
they shoud go in 020 $a |
| 21:34 |
|
atz |
i know I have datasets w/ that info already in there |
| 21:35 |
|
irma |
but with ISBN-13 it ends up by truncating the qualifier |
| 21:35 |
|
atz |
so this is probably more of a question of how koha maps the data, rather than changing the underlying field definition |
| 21:35 |
|
irma |
as is now in 2.2.9 (should have mentioned this in the beginning!) |
| 21:36 |
|
atz |
hmm... ok, most of my experience is in the new codebase |
| 21:36 |
|
atz |
ryan: maybe you can comment? |
| 21:36 |
|
irma |
yes, the qualifier can be added to MARC21 Tag 300 $..but this is contrary to the AACR2 rules. |
| 21:40 |
|
irma |
The truncating occurs as we import records. I will try to catalogue a new record with a 13 char ISBN and a qualifier and have a look at what happens. Thanks. |
| 21:41 |
|
atz |
sounds like a good test |
| 21:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
irma: the ISBN would be stored in both the 020$a of the MARC bib with a copy in the isbn column of the biblioitems table |
| 21:42 |
|
irma |
The other question is about how 650 and 651 are mapped together in 2.2.9 |
| 21:42 |
|
gmcharlt |
is it truncating the contents of 020$a itself, or just the copy found in biblioitems.isbn, which is where the OPAC display comes from? |
| 21:44 |
|
irma |
Thank you Galen we will check. Thank you for the clarification. |
| 21:45 |
|
irma |
Cheers all. |
| 22:09 |
|
hdl |
fbcit: am around now |
| 22:20 |
|
hdl |
seems you are not anymore. |
| 22:24 |
|
kados |
hdl: still around? |
| 22:25 |
|
kados |
hdl: your patch for cleanborrowers.pl doesn't seem to affect the functionality |
| 22:25 |
|
hdl |
for a little while. |
| 22:25 |
|
kados |
I have a ton of users in my db that haven't ever checked out and cleanborrowers doesn't find them |
| 22:25 |
|
kados |
it also doesn't anonymize checkout history |
| 22:25 |
|
kados |
all I get is: |
| 22:25 |
|
kados |
all I get is:jmfkohavm76:koha-dev/var$ ls run/ |
| 22:25 |
|
kados |
zebradb |
| 22:25 |
|
kados |
oops, |
| 22:26 |
|
kados |
* 0 patrons will be deleted |
| 22:26 |
|
kados |
* 0 check-out history will be anonymized |
| 22:26 |
|
kados |
is what I get |
| 22:26 |
|
hdl |
what date have you entered ? |
| 22:26 |
|
kados |
today |
| 22:27 |
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kados |
oops, it defaults to 2007! |
| 22:27 |
|
hdl |
System date not OK ? Or is it hardcoded in the script ? |
| 22:27 |
|
kados |
but still, when I pick today, I get the same result |
| 22:28 |
|
hdl |
I have tested on my box and it worked. |
| 22:28 |
|
hdl |
Can you log the mysql statement ? |
| 22:29 |
|
hdl |
should be the same as mine... But I wonder why you donot have the same results. |
| 22:29 |
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kados |
I'm using the stock sample data in 3.0 for marc21 english |
| 22:31 |
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kados |
hdl: I'm changing the priority to p2 again, instead of PATCH-Sent |
| 22:32 |
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hdl |
I will setup a new Koha box and insert marc21 english data to it. |
| 22:32 |
|
hdl |
And will test again. |
| 22:32 |
|
hdl |
tomorrow. |
| 22:33 |
|
kados |
sounds good |
| 22:33 |
|
hdl |
kados : |
| 22:34 |
|
hdl |
do you have old_issues data on your box ? |
| 22:35 |
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kados |
hdl: not very much, but some |
| 22:39 |
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kados |
hdl: can you expand on bug 1938 ? |
| 22:39 |
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kados |
hdl: I can't reproduce it |
| 22:41 |
|
hdl |
well : I just went to page installer/install.pl on my testing box. |
| 22:41 |
|
hdl |
And got Error500. |
| 22:42 |
|
hdl |
when I logged in. |
| 22:43 |
|
kados |
me too |
| 22:43 |
|
kados |
I see: |
| 22:43 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 18 18:42:20 2008] [error] [client 72.69.252.221] Premature end of script headers: install.pl, referer: http://staffdemo.koha.org/cgi-[…]taller/install.pl |
| 22:43 |
|
kados |
but no details |
| 23:26 |
|
ryan |
chris: around ? |
| 23:58 |
|
chris |
am now |
| 23:58 |
|
chris |
sorry was at curry wednesday |
| 10:07 |
|
frederic |
Hello all |
| 10:12 |
|
frederic |
kados: did you get my last 2 patches? The one facets-related is important :) |
