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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #242 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 01:07 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #242: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/242/ |
| 01:07 |
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jenkins_koha |
oleonard: Bug 8820 [3.8.x] Don't show orders table if there are no orders |
| 01:07 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8820 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Don't show orders table if there are no orders |
| 01:27 |
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trea |
anyone know if you can modify the SetEnv OPAC_SEARCH_LIMIT in your apache virtualhost directive to include more than one institution ID? |
| 01:28 |
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trea |
ie, if you wanted to have a specific url search two branches at once, for example |
| 01:59 |
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drojf |
trea: this sounds like it http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]FC#Search_Limits: |
| 02:00 |
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drojf |
you could try something like 'branch:CPL OR FFL' (with valid branch codes) and see what happens |
| 02:05 |
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eythian |
drojf: this is an odd time for you to be online |
| 02:05 |
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jcamins_away |
trea: you can, I think, but the method is non-obvious. |
| 02:06 |
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jcamins_away |
Let me see if I can find it. |
| 02:06 |
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drojf |
eythian: true. i was really tired all day, and when it was time to sleep i was awake :/ |
| 02:06 |
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eythian |
ah right |
| 02:06 |
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eythian |
those days are annoying |
| 02:06 |
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trea |
i've had a couple of those days in a row myself |
| 02:10 |
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jcamins_away |
branch:CODE or branch:OTHER |
| 02:10 |
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jcamins_away |
I believe that will work. |
| 02:10 |
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jcamins_away |
However, that will also break non-simple searches. |
| 02:11 |
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jcamins_away |
You would probably be better off signing off on Waylon's patch to add that feature in a more useful way. |
| 02:11 |
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trea |
you're probably correct |
| 02:16 |
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* jcamins_away |
goes to read Les Miserables. |
| 02:17 |
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* drojf |
imagines that to be a code for emails of special clients |
| 02:25 |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins_away: define "non-simple" |
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jcamins_away |
wizzyrea: no advanced search, no CCL. |
| 03:00 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #28 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 03:01 |
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wizzyrea |
ah yea, not cool |
| 03:42 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.10.x build #28: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/28/ |
| 03:42 |
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jenkins_koha |
jcamins: Bug 9135: updatedatabase.pl fails when DEBUG is set |
| 03:42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9135 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , updatedatabase.pl fails when DEBUG is set |
| 05:07 |
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cait |
hi #koha |
| 05:43 |
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eythian |
hi cait |
| 05:43 |
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cait |
hey :) |
| 05:43 |
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cait |
still at work? |
| 05:44 |
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eythian |
yep. Got a go-live of a new system tomorrow, so making sure that everything is up and running for that, so that when their data comes in, that's all that has to be done. |
| 05:44 |
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eythian |
so far it's going nice and smoothly, so I should be out of here fairly soon. |
| 05:47 |
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cait |
cool |
| 06:44 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #243 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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* cait |
waves back |
| 06:59 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #29 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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mveron |
Good morning #koha |
| 07:35 |
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cait |
good morning mveron :) |
| 07:36 |
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mveron |
Hi cait :-) |
| 07:37 |
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mveron |
If somebody new to koha would like to have an overview over system requirements (Opac and Staff), where would (s)he find it? |
| 07:38 |
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mveron |
system requirements? |
| 07:38 |
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| 07:38 |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 07:38 |
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mveron |
Hi reiveune :-) |
| 07:39 |
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reiveune |
salut mveron magnuse cait and everybody |
| 07:43 |
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magnuse |
hiya lds mveron reiveune |
| 07:43 |
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mveron |
hi magnuse :-) |
| 07:45 |
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cait |
hey reiveune :) |
| 07:45 |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
| 07:45 |
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wahanui |
niihau, alex_a |
| 07:45 |
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alex_a |
niihau wahanui ! |
| 07:45 |
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alex_a |
et bonjour cait magnuse and marc |
| 07:46 |
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magnuse |
bonjour alex_a |
| 07:46 |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 6.0°C (8:30 AM CET on December 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (8:20 AM CET on December 05, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:46 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 07:46 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.8°C (8:45 AM CET on December 05, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:47 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #243: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/243/ |
| 07:47 |
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jenkins_koha |
jcamins: Bug 9135: updatedatabase.pl fails when DEBUG is set |
| 07:47 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, jenkins_koha. |
| 07:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9135 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , updatedatabase.pl fails when DEBUG is set |
| 07:48 |
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mveron |
@wunder basel |
| 07:48 |
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huginn |
mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 3.0°C (8:30 AM CET on December 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:48 |
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cait |
snow showers... meh. |
| 07:48 |
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cait |
bbl |
| 07:50 |
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magnuse |
success! \o/ |
| 07:54 |
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| 07:56 |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
| 07:58 |
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magnuse |
bonjour julian_m and gaetan_B |
| 07:58 |
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julian_m |
hello magnuse |
| 07:58 |
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julian_m |
hello all |
| 08:00 |
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francharb |
ho |
| 08:00 |
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francharb |
hi |
| 08:00 |
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wahanui |
hello, francharb |
| 08:05 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.10.x build #29: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/29/ |
| 08:05 |
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jenkins_koha |
nengard: Bug 8945: Did you mean help file |
| 08:05 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8945 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , Koha 3.10 Help Files Update |
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* mveron |
would like to mark Bug 9205 as RESOLVED WONTFIX |
| 08:56 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9205 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , "No items available" is it awkward |
| 08:59 |
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kf |
I think I can agree with that |
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| 09:28 |
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magnuse |
mveron, kf: maybe it could be solved by using a .po file? |
| 09:29 |
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kf |
yes, I think so, but they probably don't want to start their own english translation |
| 09:51 |
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magnuse |
yeah, probably not |
| 09:58 |
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* mveron |
will comment the suggestion with the .po file to Bug 9205 and then mark it as resolved |
| 09:58 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9205 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , "No items available" is it awkward |
| 10:07 |
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magnuse |
mveron++ |
| 10:08 |
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mveron |
:-) |
| 10:09 |
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* mveron |
has to head away |
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kf |
jcamins_away: ping me when you are awake? |
| 10:48 |
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kf |
Search.pm? |
| 10:48 |
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wahanui |
somebody said Search.pm was complicated and has been the source of much contention in the wake of KohaCon with BibLibre rewriting it for Solr/Lucene instead of Zebra support. |
| 10:48 |
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kf |
@karma Search.pm |
| 10:48 |
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huginn |
kf: Karma for "Search.pm" has been increased 0 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of -2. |
| 10:58 |
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drojf |
@karma search.pm |
| 10:58 |
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huginn |
drojf: Karma for "search.pm" has been increased 0 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of -2. |
| 10:58 |
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drojf |
that is surprisingly not low enough ;) |
| 11:05 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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| 11:08 |
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magnuse |
@karma C4::Search |
| 11:08 |
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huginn |
magnuse: Karma for "C4::Search" has been increased 0 times and decreased 32 times for a total karma of -32. |
| 11:08 |
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magnuse |
there you go :-) |
| 11:09 |
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| 11:09 |
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gerundio |
hi, are the Mark framework fieldnames translatable? |
| 11:14 |
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kf |
gerundio: yes, you can do so in the interface or you can create your own installer with translated sql files |
| 11:16 |
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gerundio |
kf, by translated I meant if the field names are shown according to selected language for the UI |
| 11:16 |
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gerundio |
I have 2 languages available in my installation PT and EN |
| 11:16 |
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kf |
gerundio: that is not possible I am afraid :( at the moment it's one langauge only for marc - the xslt for normal view are translatable |
| 11:17 |
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gerundio |
ok, thanks a lot kf |
| 11:17 |
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gerundio |
a colleague of mine changed the fieldnames to PT and now at OPAC, in the MARC view, they are show in PT even if EN is selected |
| 11:18 |
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gerundio |
just wanted to make sure that is an expected behavior :) |
| 11:18 |
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kf |
ah right |
| 11:18 |
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gerundio |
btw, are you by any means a Zebra expert? |
| 11:18 |
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kf |
they are stored in the database |
| 11:18 |
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kf |
pretty much everything from the database is one language only |
| 11:18 |
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kf |
not an expert, but you can try and ask anyway :) |
| 11:22 |
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gerundio |
I'm getting some weird results on the search values |
| 11:23 |
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gerundio |
I've searched for "Nature" on my catalog and the 1st result doesn't even have that word in the 200a title field |
| 11:24 |
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gerundio |
I then went for the item MARC view and noticed that the word is present in the 200e field |
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gerundio |
is it possible to define relevance weights for the different fields so this doesn't happen? |
| 11:26 |
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kf |
gerundio: you should talk about that to jcamins_away |
| 11:26 |
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gerundio |
will do :) thanks again |
| 11:27 |
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kf |
he is working on search features and a rewrite of the existing code that would allow that, he knows most about the search related code currently |
| 11:27 |
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kf |
search rewrite? |
| 11:27 |
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wahanui |
search rewrite is probably http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC |
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drojf |
oh meeting today. already had forgotten about it again. |
| 12:15 |
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drojf |
paul_p_: around? |
| 12:16 |
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kf |
same for me |
| 12:16 |
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kf |
er ist grade raus - aber vielleicht eh nur automatisch |
| 12:16 |
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kf |
lol |
| 12:16 |
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drojf |
heh |
| 12:17 |
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drojf |
er ist erst geflogen, nachdem er neu reingekommen ist :) |
| 12:17 |
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* drojf |
ruft deutsch als kanalsprache aus |
| 12:18 |
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kf |
:) |
| 12:18 |
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kf |
\o/ |
| 12:19 |
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kf |
was ist mit deiner umfrage passiert? |
| 12:19 |
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kf |
what happened to your survey? |
| 12:19 |
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drojf |
almost done |
| 12:20 |
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drojf |
haha. windows. have to reboot. lol |
| 12:20 |
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drojf |
brb |
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magnuse |
guten tag drojf |
| 12:24 |
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drojf |
hei magnuse |
| 12:25 |
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magnuse |
wie gehts? |
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drojf |
mir geht es gut, danke der nachfrage. und dir? :) |
| 12:29 |
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kf |
drojf: don't say such things about magnuse! |
| 12:29 |
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kf |
only joking... of course :) |
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tcohen |
mornin' #koha |
| 12:43 |
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drojf |
hi tcohen |
| 12:44 |
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tcohen |
hi drojf |
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drojf |
is there some information on how to use koha with solr for non-devs available somewhere or would people have to go through rfcs and bugzilla? |
| 12:49 |
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kf |
drojf: I think currently it's the wiki |
| 12:49 |
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kf |
I know rangi tried it out, you have to install lots of extra things but probably not too hard from there |
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drojf |
the things i can find on the wiki regarding koha&solr are not for "normal" people ;) |
| 12:57 |
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kf |
clrh: around? |
| 12:57 |
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kf |
drojf: since when are you normal people? |
| 12:58 |
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drojf |
a more normal person from the workshop asked about it ;) |
| 12:58 |
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kf |
hm I think it's still experimental kind of |
| 12:58 |
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kf |
not sure it's recommendable for normal people yet |
| 12:59 |
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magnuse |
normal people don't install koha :-) |
| 12:59 |
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drojf |
there is a syspref in 3.10 i think, so it would be nice to at least find some info on what to do |
| 12:59 |
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kf |
irspy? |
| 12:59 |
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wahanui |
well, irspy is a good source for identifying Z39.50 targets. See http://irspy.indexdata.com. |
| 13:01 |
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magnuse |
drojf, kf: did you have the workshop yet? |
| 13:02 |
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kf |
drojf had the workshop, kf stayed at home and waited for news |
| 13:06 |
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drojf |
magnuse: yes, it was a lot of fun. i think 10-12 people left with a brand new koha installation. so far i got only positive feedback |
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tcohen |
@later tell druthb_away: please try to log into druthb jacinto.unc.edu.ar |
| 13:07 |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:07 |
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drojf |
paul_p__'s tail is growing |
| 13:08 |
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paul_p__ |
that's the beauty of having no more WIFI and moving from a meeting to another one... |
| 13:09 |
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drojf |
paul_p__: heh. i'd have a mailing list question if you have a minute now or later |
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magnuse |
drojf: very cool!! |
| 13:11 |
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magnuse |
drojf: you'll tell about it in the next newsletter, right? ;-) |
| 13:12 |
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drojf |
magnuse: of course kf did not tell you to ask that question :P |
| 13:12 |
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drojf |
but yes, i will try to write a few sentences about it |
| 13:12 |
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magnuse |
nooooo.... |
| 13:13 |
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magnuse |
drojf++ |
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paul_p |
drojf = throw your question (i'm between 2 meetings ;-) ) |
| 13:14 |
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kf |
lol |
| 13:16 |
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drojf |
paul_p: we would like to have a "main" german list 'Koha-de'. if i understand correctly, renaming the old list Koha-i18n-german would be a PITA. if so, could we get Koha-de additionally? |
| 13:17 |
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drojf |
the old one was intended for translation stuff only and that scares regular library folk away |
| 13:17 |
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kf |
I second that :) |
| 13:17 |
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drojf |
i had several people at the workshop ask about it too |
| 13:17 |
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paul_p |
drojf yes, of course, it's possible to have koha-delists.koha-community.org Could you please throw a mail to sysopbiblibre.com. That's lds that will take care of it (our sysop) |
| 13:17 |
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kf |
same for the workshop we did earlier this year |
| 13:18 |
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drojf |
paul_p: will do, thanks :) |
| 13:21 |
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tcohen |
paul_p: the same applies for finally having koha-eslists.koha-community.org ? |
| 13:32 |
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drojf |
in OAI set mappings, i can specify field values with "equal to". would having a negative (like 'value is not') be against OAI standards or is it just not implemented in koha? |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha. |
| 13:40 |
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drojf |
hi jcamins |
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drojf |
shouldn't we kill the koha-win32 mailing list? |
| 13:48 |
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* jcamins |
thinks it should have an auto-responder: "Koha does not work under Windows, sorry." |
| 13:50 |
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drojf |
maybe in form of a daily out of office notice? :P |
| 13:50 |
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jcamins |
lol |
| 13:50 |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
| 13:52 |
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drojf |
argh. "Error 503 - Server busy". no emails for drojf |
| 13:53 |
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drojf |
one would think a university has working webmail available |
| 13:57 |
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jcamins |
drojf: pfft. This one wouldn't. :P |
| 13:57 |
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magnuse |
drojf: oai does not care how the sats are constructed as far as i know, so feel free to add 'value is not' |
| 13:57 |
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drojf |
lol. ours is up again |
| 13:58 |
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magnuse |
s/sats/sets/ |
| 13:58 |
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drojf |
magnuse: cool, thanks |
| 14:00 |
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kf |
:) |
| 14:00 |
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kf |
jcamins: I left a message for jcamins_away... |
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jcamins |
kf: oh, I saw the instructions for gerundio to contact me, didn't realize you wanted me as well. |
| 14:02 |
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hdl |
hi dpavlin around ? |
| 14:02 |
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drojf |
leaving messages for someone_away to read when s/he is here is a funny thing ;) |
| 14:02 |
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hdl |
Or anyone using Plack in production ? |
| 14:02 |
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jcamins |
hdl: I'm using Plack for testing, but not production. |
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hdl |
jcamins, have you tried preloading perlModules on Starman command-line ? |
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jcamins |
hdl: let me check my config. |
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jcamins |
I am not, no. |
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jcamins |
What does BOR_NOTES do? |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
messages in borrower account |
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kf |
some defaults |
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kf |
the little pull down you have there |
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kf |
and sorry for bad grammar :) |
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jcamins |
Ah-ha. |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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drojf |
grammer is for loosers |
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vfernandes |
hi :) |
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hdl |
hi vfernandez |
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hdl |
hi vfernandes sorry |
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hdl |
jcamins, dpavlin i tried this : PERL5LIB=/home/koha/src KOHA_CONF=/home/koha/etc/koha-conf.xml starman -MFindBin -MC4::Context --workers 6 --port 5000 --pid /home/koha/var/run/starman_opac.pid /home/koha/src/opac.psgi 2>/home/koha/var/log/starman_opac.err >/home/koha/var/log/starman_opac.log |
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hdl |
and it works. |
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hdl |
And preload C4::Context, |
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hdl |
rather than creating a mysql connection for every session, it could be used to federeate mysql connections. |
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jcamins |
hdl: I thought that loading C4::Context in the psgi file would do it. |
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* jcamins |
will find out. |
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jcamins |
It seems to. |
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jcamins |
Well- I have two active database connections. |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
No, it doesn't work quite right. |
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jcamins |
How do I get the Asort1 values to be used in neworderempty? |
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kf |
jcamins: not at all |
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kf |
hm or let me think |
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kf |
ah right |
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kf |
go to the fund |
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kf |
that you want to use |
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kf |
and select asort1 there as to be used for the first or second statistic value |
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jcamins |
Ah-ha! |
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kf |
I am sorry, my first reaction was not quite correct |
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jcamins |
Got it, thanks. :) |
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kf |
you are very welcome :) |
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kf |
I like helping you test thorougly :) |
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hdl |
jcamins, we have done that too. |
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hdl |
But it is showing more than 2 connections |
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hdl |
to sql |
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jcamins |
hdl: yeah, it turns out that didn't work quite as I thought. |
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gerundio |
jcamins, is it possible to define relevance weights for the different MARC fields for the search? |
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jcamins |
gerundio: not easily. |
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gerundio |
I don't know if you had the chance to read what I was talking with kf earlier |
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jcamins |
I did. |
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jcamins |
You could modify C4::Search::_build_weighted_query, but I can't recommend it. |
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gerundio |
so it's normal to get those kind of results? |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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gerundio |
modifying that doesn't sound good :D |
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jcamins |
Fixing this is one of the goals of the search rewrite. |
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* hdl |
loves jcamins daydreaming. |
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* kf |
loves it too, because it tends to get reality :) |
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jcamins |
:) |
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jcamins |
Okay, I think I'm going to push bug 7919. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7919 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Display of values depending on the connexion library (authorised values, patron categories, extended attributes) |
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jcamins |
I love the feature, and I can't seem to break it. |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
I love the idea too, even better when it works like described |
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vfernandes |
the idea is to have different categories, etc for different libraries? |
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kf |
and make them only see their categories I think |
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jcamins |
I can think of some improvements, but I think the changes the proposed changes are reasonable, and work well. |
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kf |
jcamins: you can still have categories for all libraries right? |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
so no regression for libraries, most important bit :) |
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jcamins |
It doesn't change anything by default. |
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gerundio |
bug 8347 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' |
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gerundio |
vfernandes, this is the bug to which you submitted a patch |
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gerundio |
the one we discussed yesterday |
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jcamins |
At least, so far as I can tell from an hour of testing. |
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vfernandes |
that seems a nice improvement jcamins |
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gerundio |
I noticed that you addressed the occurences of 'frey50' in lib/C4/Biblio.pm |
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gerundio |
but I found more in lib/C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm and lib/C4/Charset.pm |
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gerundio |
should those be handled in the patch too? |
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vfernandes |
C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm - bug 9145 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9145 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Signed Off , Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC |
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hdl |
see you |
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vfernandes |
the lib/C4/Charset is used when? |
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vfernandes |
the method SetMarcUnicodeFlag |
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vfernandes |
i will change it in the bug 8347 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.... eventually, ye shall stop asking." (added by gmcharlt at 08:31 PM, July 09, 2009) |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
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jcamins |
There are no bugs set to Passed QA. |
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gerundio |
vfernandes, I went through alls the comments on both bugs |
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gerundio |
there's still something I don't understand |
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vfernandes |
jcamins SetMarcUnicodeFlag is used where? |
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gerundio |
you've added a new preference for the country code for UNIMARC in order to fix the hardcoded "fre" references |
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vfernandes |
yes... |
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jcamins |
gerundio: if it makes you feel any better, I don't understand either. It's UNIMARC. :P |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: I think every time a record is edited. |
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jcamins |
I'm not certain, though. |
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gerundio |
but what should be the expected behavior if we set a default value in that subfield on the MARC framework editor? |
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gerundio |
I don't know if my question is clear enough |
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vfernandes |
ok... if you set a default value for field 100 the default code will be used |
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vfernandes |
*default value |
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gerundio |
not sure about that |
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gerundio |
my default value is " d k||y0pory50 ba" |
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gerundio |
but the records are being populated with " d k||y0frey50 ba" |
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gerundio |
which means that por is being replaced with the fre value |
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vfernandes |
using my code? |
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gerundio |
which is understandable given the current source code |
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gerundio |
with your code it seems like the country code value will be replaced with whatever value we insert in the system preference |
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gerundio |
am I thinking this right? |
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vfernandes |
yes |
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vfernandes |
only if 100 is not filled |
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gerundio |
so what happens if 100 is empty but we have a default value set? |
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gerundio |
it gets replaced the same way, right? |
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vfernandes |
wait... |
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jcamins |
Yes, because the default value applies only when you are editing a record. |
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jcamins |
So if you import a record without a 100 field, the 100 field will be populated with whatever you have set in the syspref. |
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vfernandes |
if there is no 100, a new 100 field will be added to the record with the language set in the system preference |
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gerundio |
I'm just looking at this from the programmer point of view, I don't have enough librarian knowledge to understand the context of these operations :p |
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clrh |
drojf: did you found answers about koha & solr question ? |
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vfernandes |
if there is a field 100, when editing shouldn't do nothing (uses the language already set in the field) |
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jcamins |
gerundio: it's UNIMARC... I don't understand it at all anyway. |
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vfernandes |
gerundio you problem happens with my patch? |
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gerundio |
still haven't been able to test it |
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gerundio |
I'm setting up a new testing environment soon |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7919: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c8b49458a9e6be2c8> / Bug 7919: Followup: Fix plural and GetAuthvalueDropbox <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]26fb37f6fab0b157b> / Bug 7919 : Display of values depending on the connexion library <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]?p=koha.git;a=com |
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vfernandes |
I will change Charset.pm to use the default language |
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vfernandes |
my ($subflength,$encodingposition)=($marc_flavour=~/AUTH/?(21,9):(36,22)); this line is killing me :P |
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drojf |
clrh: i found http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ons_for_Koha#Solr.2FLucene_Record_Indexing_Server_Aspect_of_Configuration are these files in 3.10? (i mean solr/indexes.pl and solr/mappings.pl)? and is there a list of prerequisites to install? i have to admit i haven't read all things on the wiki closely yet |
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gerundio |
jcamins, yesterday you told me that the best way to correct all the occurences of the records on the DB was using a script |
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jcamins |
gerundio: that would be my recommendation, y es. |
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jcamins |
*yes |
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jcamins |
I'd use the touch_all_biblios script as a model. |
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gerundio |
wouldn't an update on the marcxml collumn of the biblioitems table be suffice? |
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clrh |
drojf: today, iif you install everything in 3.10 to work with koha: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]hEngine_Layer_RFC you will have nice ui configuration for indexes, facets, mappings and a poc of simple opac search |
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jcamins |
gerundio: not if you want your system to still work when you're done. |
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clrh |
I would like, before investing (again) more time, see the zebra refactoring work going foreward (franglish?) because what is important is that the switch (search engine layer) would be fully functionnal |
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clrh |
not sure to be clear |
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jcamins |
clrh: "forward," but other than that, it was all correct English. :) |
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drojf |
clrh: thank you, i will have a look at it and return with more questions if needed :) |
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clrh |
ok drojf you're welcome |
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drojf |
clrh: your english is fine btw :) |
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clrh |
thx jcamins :) |
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* kf |
agrees with jcamins and drojf |
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clrh |
:) |
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kf |
jcamins: so when are you done with the rewrite? :P |
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jcamins |
kf: hehe. |
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vfernandes |
Charset.pm changed on bug 8347... but it affects also bug 9145... what I should do? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9145 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Signed Off , Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC |
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gerundio |
jcamins, what would stop working if I went for that shot in the DB? |
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vfernandes |
sorry my bad... in authorities the method SetMarcUnicodeFlag isn't used... so the bugs aren't connect |
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vfernandes |
gerundio Charset.pm is now updated... |
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vfernandes |
:) |
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gerundio |
well done vfernandes :) |
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jcamins |
gerundio: chances are every single record would be corrupted. |
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gerundio |
is that value stored elsewhere or just in that field on that particular table? |
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jcamins |
It's in biblioitems.marcxml and biblioitems.marc. |
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jcamins |
Seriously, I absolutely will not help you if you insist on modifying the database directly. |
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vfernandes |
gerundio you should develop a script to do that... |
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gerundio |
jcamins, I won't insist, I'm just trying to understand it :) |
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jcamins |
gerundio: good. |
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jcamins |
Koha uses the marc and marcxml fields in different places. |
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vfernandes |
is very easy to transform a record in a MARC::Record object and then modify fields/subfields |
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vfernandes |
marcxml and marc will be automatically updated after using the ModBiblio |
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jcamins |
Also, direct database manipulation will screw up your indexes. |
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gerundio |
jcamins, implication in the indexes was what I was thinking could be one of the problems |
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gerundio |
thanks for confirming :) |
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jcamins |
gerundio: yeah, you can address that by reindexing. |
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jcamins |
But it's not ideal, and the marc/marcxml distinction is a lot more pernicious. |
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jcamins |
clrh: does BibLibre have a demo of the complete Solr search? |
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jcamins |
(as opposed to just what is in Master) |
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clrh |
jcamins: some months ago yep, I can search |
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clrh |
jcamins: about solr ful in biblibre version ? |
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clrh |
ok community vesion ? |
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clrh |
I think I have both somewhere |
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jcamins |
I particularly want to see the BibLibre version. |
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clrh |
jcamins: ok 2 sec |
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clrh |
jcamins: ve started: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]2-May/037298.html pro index configuration has a better ergonomy I think in community |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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reiveune |
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rambutan |
@meeting |
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huginn |
rambutan: I suck |
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libsysguy |
heh |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #967: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/967/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* dcook: Bug 9130 - Remove old javascript from Parcel |
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jenkins_koha |
* dcook: Bug 9130 follow up: add statesave cookie and "all" option for parcel drop-down menu |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 7919 : Display of values depending on the connexion library |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 7919: Followup: Fix plural and GetAuthvalueDropbox |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 7919: Increment version number |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Remove old javascript from Parcel |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7919 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Display of values depending on the connexion library (authorised values, patron categories, extended attributes) |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
That passes on my system. |
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jcamins |
Oooh. |
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jcamins |
I see the problem. |
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jcamins |
PERL5LIB was set wrong. |
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rambutan |
I want a Koha conference like this one for $414 USD: http://www.doubleradius.com/wi[…]tlimits/home.html |
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gerundio |
jcamins, I've been studying the touch_all_biblios like you recommended |
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gerundio |
the only thing to change would be to remove the unecessary code before the DB query prepare line |
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jcamins |
gerundio: no, the only thing you need to change is add in some code to modify the record after GetMarcBiblio. |
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jcamins |
Remember the chief virtue of the programmer: laziness! |
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gerundio |
and inside the while replace the code after the GetMarcBiblio with something like the code for field update in the UNIMARC_sync_date_created_with_marc_biblio.pl script |
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gerundio |
would this be a good approach? |
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jcamins |
Yes, though your code for modifying the field should be pretty simple. |
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jcamins |
Ooh, it's time for a meeting. |
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jcamins |
Guess who is not chairing it? |
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libsysguy |
yup |
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jcamins |
That's right, me. |
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libsysguy |
not it |
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jcamins |
I am _not_ chairing it. |
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* druthb |
nominates cait. |
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jcamins |
cait++ |
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druthb |
cait++ |
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slef |
@seen cait |
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huginn |
slef: cait was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 13 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <cait> bbl |
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drojf |
hey huginn, cait is in the channel?! |
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* slef |
enquires about druthb chairing...? |
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drojf |
blind bot |
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drojf |
cait: you know you want to |
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slef |
*** cait has been idle for 00:00.27 |
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slef |
hmm |
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slef |
you can run, but you can't hide from the server |
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libsysguy |
nominates druthb |
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libsysguy |
she can run the meeting with her poking stick |
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druthb |
she's here. I could do it, I s'pose. |
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talljoy |
oooooo |
| 18:04 |
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* thd |
is suffering from the flu and wants a refund on the influenza vaccine. |
| 18:05 |
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drojf |
thd: did you get the flu right after vaccination? that seems to be more common than people think |
| 18:05 |
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jcamins |
druthb++ # since cait is a more effective hider |
| 18:05 |
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slef |
drojf: the vaccination is the flu, isn't it? |
| 18:05 |
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drojf |
slef: technically, yes, of course. a little flu |
| 18:06 |
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druthb |
I will get her for this. I will. If there is no objection, I'll take it. |
| 18:06 |
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talljoy |
yay druthb |
| 18:06 |
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druthb |
@later tell cait you owe me, babe. |
| 18:06 |
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huginn |
druthb: The operation succeeded. |
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libsysguy |
doo eet |
| 18:06 |
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druthb |
#startmeeting |
| 18:06 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Dec 5 18:05:46 2012 UTC. The chair is druthb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 18:06 |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
| 18:06 |
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wahanui |
if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me |
| 18:06 |
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talljoy |
^ ? |
| 18:06 |
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wahanui |
^ is what I think too |
| 18:07 |
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druthb |
#info introductions |
| 18:07 |
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libsysguy |
#info Elliott Davis, ByWater Solutions: Houston Tx |
| 18:07 |
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druthb |
#topic introductions |
| 18:07 |
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wahanui |
#info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 18:07 |
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Topic for #koha is now introductions |
| 18:07 |
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thd |
drojf: No< I merely have the unreasonable expectation of immunity from vaccines. |
| 18:07 |
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druthb |
#info D Ruth Bavousett, ByWater, Lawrence, KS, TM 3.12 |
| 18:07 |
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talljoy |
#info Joy Nelson ByWater Solutions |
| 18:07 |
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jcamins |
#info Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services, RM 3.12 |
| 18:07 |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, Wellington, NZ |
| 18:07 |
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drojf |
#info Mirko Tietgen, HU Berlin |
| 18:07 |
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slef |
#info MJ Ray, software.coop member, Norfolk, England, past RMaint |
| 18:07 |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 18:07 |
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bag |
#info Brendan Gallagher ByWater Solutions having THE FUN |
| 18:07 |
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* slef |
asks bag to pass a beer |
| 18:07 |
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nancyk |
#info Nancy Keener Reno |
| 18:08 |
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rhcl |
#info RHCL = Rolling Hills Consolidated Library - Greg |
| 18:08 |
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bag |
noice |
| 18:08 |
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* druthb |
wields her pointy stick and evil librarian glasses, putting her hair into a bun. |
| 18:08 |
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gmcharlt |
#info Galen CHarlton, Equinox Software |
| 18:08 |
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druthb |
#topic announcements not otherwise on the agenda, which is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…],_5_December_2012 |
| 18:08 |
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Topic for #koha is now announcements not otherwise on the agenda, which is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…],_5_December_2012 |
| 18:09 |
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druthb |
#info There will be a newer, faster Pootle server in the next couple of days. Kudos and hugs to tcohen for help with that. |
| 18:09 |
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| 18:09 |
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talljoy |
tcohen++ |
| 18:09 |
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jcamins |
tcohen++ |
| 18:09 |
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libsysguy |
@karma tcohen |
| 18:09 |
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cait |
tcohen++ druthb++ :) |
| 18:09 |
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huginn |
libsysguy: Karma for "tcohen" has been increased 51 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 51. |
| 18:09 |
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druthb |
Anyone else have short announcements of general interest to the Koha community? |
| 18:09 |
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khall |
#info Kyle M Hall, ByWater, Meadville, PA |
| 18:09 |
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JDatTeTakere |
#info jdattetakere |
| 18:10 |
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drojf |
for a second i thought i had seen cait |
| 18:10 |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ |
| 18:10 |
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cait |
sorry, I thought the meeting started at 8! |
| 18:10 |
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druthb |
#topic 3.8 update |
| 18:10 |
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Topic for #koha is now 3.8 update |
| 18:10 |
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drojf |
its cet, not cest anymore :P |
| 18:11 |
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druthb |
News on 3.8? Probably the wrong time of day for those folks. |
| 18:11 |
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jcamins |
Chris is not here, but so far as I know there will be a string freeze on the fifteenth and 3.8.8 will be released on the twenty-second. |
| 18:11 |
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cait |
I can take over - or eat my dinner while druthb chairs :) |
| 18:11 |
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libsysguy |
if the world still stands :p |
| 18:11 |
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talljoy |
lol |
| 18:11 |
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slef |
It'd be nice if a short update could be put in the agenda just in case they're not here. |
| 18:11 |
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druthb |
eat your dinner, cait; I've already got my pointy stick out to poke things along with. |
| 18:12 |
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druthb |
#info jcamins reports that as far as he knows there will be a string freeze on the fifteenth and 3.8.8 will be released on the twenty-second. |
| 18:12 |
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slef |
druthb: just beat me to it! |
| 18:12 |
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druthb |
:P |
| 18:12 |
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* druthb |
is a fast typist. |
| 18:12 |
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* slef |
is doing 3 things at once :-/ |
| 18:12 |
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druthb |
#topic 3.10 update |
| 18:12 |
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Topic for #koha is now 3.10 update |
| 18:13 |
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druthb |
3.10, anyone? |
| 18:13 |
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cait |
RM? |
| 18:13 |
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wahanui |
somebody said RM was busy :) or paul_p |
| 18:13 |
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jcamins |
#info Koha 3.10.0 was released on November 23/24. 3.10.1 will be released on December 22. |
| 18:14 |
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drojf |
what's with the broken package installation? is there going to be a 3.10.0-1? (or -2 or how it is numbered?) |
| 18:14 |
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slef |
drojf: it would be 3.10.0-2 |
| 18:14 |
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slef |
drojf: after the - is packaging version |
| 18:14 |
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slef |
drojf: broken? :) |
| 18:14 |
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jcamins |
drojf: yes, if the patch is signed off and QAed, which I believe we are still waiting on. |
| 18:14 |
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slef |
I missed this |
| 18:14 |
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drojf |
jcamins: ah i see |
| 18:14 |
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slef |
bug number please? |
| 18:15 |
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drojf |
slef: wrong path of some files makes OPAC broken |
| 18:15 |
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jcamins |
#info Bug 9052 should be signed off and QAed ASAP since it breaks the 3.10 packages. |
| 18:15 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages |
| 18:15 |
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druthb |
jcamins++ |
| 18:15 |
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slef |
#link http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9052 |
| 18:15 |
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huginn |
Bug 9052: blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages |
| 18:15 |
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druthb |
Anything else about 3.10 out there to fret over? |
| 18:16 |
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slef |
I may be in a place to review that in a few minutes. Is there a QA who can follow me? |
| 18:16 |
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druthb |
Grooooovy. Moving right along: |
| 18:16 |
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druthb |
#topic 3.12 |
| 18:16 |
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|
Topic for #koha is now 3.12 |
| 18:16 |
|
* druthb |
cues up "Hail to the Chief" |
| 18:16 |
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jcamins |
We'll get mtj to do it. |
| 18:17 |
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jcamins |
#info We are about two weeks into the release cycle of 3.12. |
| 18:17 |
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cait |
good plan |
| 18:17 |
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jcamins |
#info At this point there is no backlog of patches that have Passed QA, but there is a backlog of patches awaiting QA and awaiting sign off. |
| 18:18 |
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* cait |
agrees |
| 18:18 |
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jcamins |
#info I have written up guidelines on commit messages. |
| 18:18 |
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jcamins |
(looking now) |
| 18:18 |
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jcamins |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Commit_messages |
| 18:18 |
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jcamins |
#info We have also updated the general coding guidelines somewhat. |
| 18:18 |
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slef |
jcamins: can that link be in the HACKING file in the repository, please? |
| 18:18 |
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jcamins |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
| 18:19 |
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cait |
HACKING file? |
| 18:19 |
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jcamins |
I don't think we have a HACKING file. |
| 18:19 |
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jcamins |
#todo Add a HACKING file to the Koha repo. |
| 18:19 |
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cait |
slef: I tend to agree with jcamins, first time ever I heard about htat |
| 18:19 |
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vfernandes |
jcamins when you wrote this page? |
| 18:19 |
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slef |
we should. It's one of the GNU files, alongside README, INSTALL, Changelog |
| 18:19 |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: the commit message page? |
| 18:19 |
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jcamins |
Last week. |
| 18:20 |
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vfernandes |
ohh because I never know what to write when submitting a patch :) |
| 18:20 |
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jcamins |
If I am able to understand what's going on with a patch, I will not ask for it to be revised. |
| 18:20 |
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cait |
it also helps the QA team a lot - documentation++ |
| 18:20 |
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vfernandes |
nice :) |
| 18:21 |
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jcamins |
However, if decrypting the commit message or divining the intent of the patch looks to be a time-consuming project, I will fail a patch for lack of commit message. |
| 18:21 |
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vfernandes |
that will help me in future a lot |
| 18:21 |
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slef |
hmm, I thought it was in http://www.gnu.org/prep/mainta[…]l_node/index.html but it's not |
| 18:22 |
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jcamins |
#info jcamins intends to continue updating and fleshing out the coding guidelines, so it is easier for new (and experienced) developers to figure out what to do. |
| 18:22 |
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jcamins |
I do intend to continue Paul's monthly RM newsletters. |
| 18:22 |
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drojf |
yeah! |
| 18:22 |
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cait |
jcamins++ |
| 18:22 |
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gmcharlt |
newsletters++ |
| 18:22 |
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druthb |
jcamins++ |
| 18:23 |
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vfernandes |
in my next patches I will set the commit messages correctly... jcamins++ |
| 18:23 |
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druthb |
Awesomeness. Anything else, jcamins? |
| 18:23 |
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cait |
maybe I can add a few things? |
| 18:23 |
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jcamins |
And I plan to roll tarballs of monthly previews, and talk to eythian about updating the packages at the same time so that if a non-developer wants to see what they can look forward to, they can do so easily. |
| 18:23 |
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jcamins |
And that's all from me. |
| 18:24 |
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druthb |
Great. cait? |
| 18:24 |
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cait |
unit tests for new routines are mandatory now - if you are not sure how to do it, I think there will be people to help you with it |
| 18:24 |
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slef |
jcamins: maybe README.developer is a better name? |
| 18:24 |
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* jcamins |
might be one of those people. |
| 18:24 |
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cait |
there is also a new 'rule' that qa and patch should be done by different parties, extending our existing set of rules a bit |
| 18:25 |
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cait |
we will try to stick to that, with being less strict for patches wiating for longer than 1 month |
| 18:25 |
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cait |
also my usual reminder to everyone: please remember that signing off is as important as providing patches |
| 18:26 |
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cait |
and fixing bugs is always more important than new features ;) |
| 18:26 |
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jcamins |
cait++ |
| 18:26 |
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slef |
my usual worry is I don't like being mean and I'm afraid I will be, finding bugs in fixes :-/ |
| 18:26 |
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cait |
ok, I think that's it from me :) |
| 18:26 |
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jcamins |
slef: this might put your mind at ease: |
| 18:26 |
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druthb |
All right. Anything else on 3.12? |
| 18:27 |
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vfernandes |
fixing bugs is more important, but new features are always welcome :P |
| 18:27 |
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cait |
I don't like being mean too - it's not nice to fail patches, but if you provide good reason it should be ok :) |
| 18:27 |
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jcamins |
if you don't fail it, I will. |
| 18:27 |
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libsysguy |
jcamins the gate keeper |
| 18:27 |
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druthb |
#topic KohaCon2013 |
| 18:27 |
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Topic for #koha is now KohaCon2013 |
| 18:27 |
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druthb |
nancyk, you're up. |
| 18:28 |
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nancyk |
#info We are in the last stage of hotel negotiations. After that, I will be getting volunteers together to plan. |
| 18:28 |
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nancyk |
not much to tell yet |
| 18:28 |
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vfernandes |
when KohaCon2013 will be? sorry for don't know :/ |
| 18:28 |
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druthb |
Still working October, yes? But dates remain un-firm at this point? |
| 18:28 |
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cait |
is the date set now? |
| 18:29 |
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nancyk |
looks like mid october |
| 18:29 |
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druthb |
All right. Anything else you'd like to mention, ask for, or rant about, nancyk? |
| 18:30 |
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nancyk |
Not yet. |
| 18:30 |
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druthb |
Okie dokie. Questions from the floor? |
| 18:30 |
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druthb |
I love easy meetings. |
| 18:30 |
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slef |
nope |
| 18:30 |
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druthb |
#topic Vote on license change. |
| 18:30 |
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Topic for #koha is now Vote on license change. |
| 18:30 |
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druthb |
So much for an easy meeting. |
| 18:31 |
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libsysguy |
heh |
| 18:31 |
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vfernandes |
is there any schedule for koha 3.12 release? |
| 18:31 |
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thd |
Sorry that I had missed the recent mailing list discussion of the license upgrade issue admist all the systems needing repair after last month's storm. |
| 18:31 |
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drojf |
lol |
| 18:31 |
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slef |
ah this is why cait was hiding :) |
| 18:31 |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: yes, we remain on schedule for May 22, 2013. |
| 18:31 |
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thd |
Unfortunately, we cannot meaningfully pursue upgarding the license without resolving the issue over the OpenNCIP GPL 2 license invocation omission of an upgrade clause. |
| 18:31 |
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jcamins |
thd: but that has been resolved. |
| 18:31 |
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slef |
jcamins: got link? |
| 18:31 |
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jcamins |
OpenNCIP is licensed GPLv2+. |
| 18:31 |
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thd |
When was that resolved? |
| 18:31 |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: do you have it handy? |
| 18:31 |
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druthb |
Okay, this has been *beaten to death* over the last couple of years on the mailing list. If you have something *new*, bring it. If you don't, keep your peace, please. |
| 18:31 |
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jcamins |
thd: six months ago? |
| 18:32 |
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slef |
druthb: can we allow tying up loose ends? |
| 18:32 |
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druthb |
certainly. |
| 18:32 |
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jcamins |
thd: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]April/035334.html |
| 18:32 |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: yes, it's been resolved |
| 18:32 |
|
jcamins |
#link http://lists.koha-community.or[…]April/035334.html |
| 18:32 |
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gmcharlt |
and that's indeed the link |
| 18:32 |
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vfernandes |
I have to go, bye :) |
| 18:32 |
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slef |
vfernandes: bye! |
| 18:33 |
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druthb |
Any other loose ends or new issues/concerns that haven't been flogged already? |
| 18:34 |
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thd |
gmcharlt: That message did not indicate to me that the issue had been resolved. |
| 18:34 |
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cait |
I think the currenct license is an issue for using bootstrap and maybe other things |
| 18:34 |
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cait |
so we need to decide how to decide it - for real this time |
| 18:34 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 18:34 |
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slef |
anyone remember the last threads, for the record? |
| 18:34 |
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gmcharlt |
thd: I disagree -- but I suggest we take this on to the mailing list |
| 18:35 |
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cait |
could we agree to have a vote on this next meeting? |
| 18:35 |
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thd |
cait: We had an entire meeting on a license upgrade voting procedure. |
| 18:35 |
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druthb |
heck, I thought that's what we were gonna do *this* time, cait. |
| 18:35 |
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slef |
when would we be aiming to relicense by? 3.12.0? |
| 18:35 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 18:35 |
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libsysguy |
tomorrow |
| 18:35 |
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wahanui |
i heard tomorrow was pizza friday! or the day after today. |
| 18:36 |
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cait |
hm could we already start working on things like bootstrap in the repo before release? |
| 18:36 |
|
* druthb |
pokes libsysguy with the pointy stick. |
| 18:36 |
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| 18:36 |
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jcamins |
thd: if you have actual concerns, I encourage you to bring them to the mailing list and *resolve* them. |
| 18:37 |
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jcamins |
Otherwise, we are just spending a half an hour every month doing nothing. |
| 18:37 |
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slef |
I'm not finding this on koha-devel in Sep or Oct, now trying Nov |
| 18:37 |
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slef |
ah found it! |
| 18:37 |
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slef |
#link http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ember/038454.html |
| 18:37 |
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druthb |
slef++ |
| 18:37 |
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thd |
The actual concern I have is that the license of OpenNCIP has not changed. |
| 18:38 |
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thd |
http://openncip.cvs.sourceforg[…]wvc/openncip/src/ |
| 18:38 |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries |
| 18:38 |
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slef |
#link http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]se-td5732930.html |
| 18:38 |
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slef |
thd: a later statement from the licensor would take priority, no? |
| 18:38 |
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thd |
There is no file reflecting a change in the license invocation posted to the code repository. |
| 18:39 |
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thd |
slef: Yes, but that would need to actually be from the party holding copyright and not merely another interested party. |
| 18:40 |
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jcamins |
Okay, so what I'm hearing is that we're not making any progress. Mailing list, please? |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
can we still announce a vote on this next meeting? |
| 18:40 |
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druthb |
concur. We'll bump this *again*. |
| 18:40 |
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slef |
thd: true, so are you proposing an amendment that we'll change once the OpenNCIP project actually changes their published licence or we stop using OpenNCIP? |
| 18:40 |
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gmcharlt |
cait: perhaps a straw vote? |
| 18:40 |
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oleonard |
Are there actual objections to the upgrade in principle or just concerns over the details? |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
no, but given it is resolved by then, could we have a vote? |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
i fear we will bump this.. forever. |
| 18:40 |
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thd |
I will take my question about whether the openncip license has actually changed to the mailing list so we can discuss what to do if it has in fact changed properly. |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
without setting deadlines |
| 18:41 |
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slef |
I'd rather vote now, with an amendment making it conditional on resolving OpenNCIP one way or the other. |
| 18:41 |
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jcamins |
slef++ |
| 18:41 |
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druthb |
slef++ |
| 18:41 |
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gmcharlt |
agreed |
| 18:41 |
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talljoy |
slef++ |
| 18:41 |
|
libsysguy |
slef++ |
| 18:41 |
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druthb |
Suits me. Objection? |
| 18:41 |
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oleonard |
slef++ |
| 18:41 |
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thd |
cait: We had a procedure for upgrading the license which is documented in the wiki. |
| 18:41 |
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cait |
slef++ |
| 18:41 |
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druthb |
link? |
| 18:41 |
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cait |
thd: and it didn't work |
| 18:42 |
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oleonard |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]opyright_license? |
| 18:42 |
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thd |
cait: It could not be put forward because the issue was moot in consequence of openncip. |
| 18:42 |
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slef |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]copyright_license |
| 18:42 |
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thd |
oleonard ++ |
| 18:42 |
|
* slef |
arrives at the same point at oleonard |
| 18:43 |
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druthb |
Holy shmoley--that's forever and a week ago. |
| 18:43 |
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slef |
huginn: query openncip |
| 18:43 |
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cait |
i think what we are talking now is different than before too |
| 18:43 |
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huginn |
slef: No results for "openncip." |
| 18:43 |
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cait |
we just want to switch from 2 to 3 |
| 18:43 |
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cait |
as I see it |
| 18:43 |
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slef |
ok, can someone report openncip to bugs.koha-community.org please? |
| 18:43 |
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cait |
and are not discussing different licenses |
| 18:43 |
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slef |
(thd? report openncip to bugs.koha-community.org?) |
| 18:43 |
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oleonard |
Yeah I don't think anyone is lobbying for AGPL3+ this time around |
| 18:43 |
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cait |
so we can make this a simpler process |
| 18:44 |
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thd |
oleonard: I am |
| 18:44 |
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slef |
thd: that's not the published proposal this time. |
| 18:44 |
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libsysguy |
of course |
| 18:44 |
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jcamins |
Let's focus on one step at a time, and just upgrade to GPLv3+? |
| 18:44 |
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cait |
+1 |
| 18:44 |
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oleonard |
+1 |
| 18:44 |
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talljoy |
+1 |
| 18:44 |
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druthb |
Okay, I'm gonna bring this around, right now--it's beyond past time. Let's vote. It's been moved that we move to GPL 3+, with two amenedments in the agenda, plus the one that this is dependent on resolution of the openncip issue. |
| 18:44 |
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jcamins |
Per the proposal that has been mooted. |
| 18:44 |
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rangi |
+1 |
| 18:44 |
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libsysguy |
+1 |
| 18:44 |
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slef |
so maybe the openncip thing can wait and block a later upgrade. |
| 18:44 |
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oleonard |
Doing so does not prevent us from arguing over AGPL3+ later |
| 18:44 |
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jcamins |
+1 |
| 18:44 |
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drojf |
+1 |
| 18:44 |
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druthb |
+1 |
| 18:44 |
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* slef |
thinks about this a moment |
| 18:45 |
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davidnind |
+1 |
| 18:45 |
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thd |
+1 However, should there not be a community wide vote? |
| 18:45 |
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khall |
+1 |
| 18:45 |
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talljoy |
isn't this that? |
| 18:45 |
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bag |
+1 |
| 18:45 |
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edveal |
+1 |
| 18:45 |
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talljoy |
+1 |
| 18:45 |
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slef |
hehehe |
| 18:45 |
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druthb |
Community wide meeting, published agenda. If they care, they should be here. |
| 18:45 |
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cait |
i think if we advertise this, anyone intersted can show up next meeting |
| 18:46 |
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gmcharlt |
+1 |
| 18:46 |
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druthb |
Any nays? |
| 18:46 |
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slef |
oh drat |
| 18:46 |
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thd |
Am I reconnected? |
| 18:46 |
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cait |
yes |
| 18:46 |
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slef |
my question in http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ember/038484.html remains unanswer |
| 18:47 |
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slef |
ed - basically, is the upgrade even necessary? ;-) |
| 18:47 |
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druthb |
#agreed GPLv3+, as of 3.12.0, with two exceptions, and pending the openncip issue. |
| 18:47 |
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jcamins |
slef: yes, because we are upgrading the distribution license. |
| 18:47 |
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slef |
-1 |
| 18:48 |
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druthb |
#topic Actions from general IRC meeting last month |
| 18:48 |
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Topic for #koha is now Actions from general IRC meeting last month |
| 18:48 |
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druthb |
"libsysguy to publish repo of his mechanized testing suite" ? |
| 18:49 |
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* libsysguy |
has changed his mind and is instead pursuing Selenium tests |
| 18:49 |
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* druthb |
snorts. |
| 18:49 |
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rhcl |
+1 |
| 18:49 |
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libsysguy |
but will publish those as they are written |
| 18:49 |
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druthb |
Awesome. |
| 18:49 |
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druthb |
"Find out if we can set Bugzilla permissions so that only the QA team can mark things "Passed QA"" ? |
| 18:49 |
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libsysguy |
also, I would like to welcome anyone else to write them as well |
| 18:49 |
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jcamins |
druthb: doesn't seem to be doable, so we'll survive without. |
| 18:50 |
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druthb |
all righty then. |
| 18:50 |
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druthb |
#topic Miscellaneous -- Wiki spam |
| 18:50 |
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Topic for #koha is now Miscellaneous -- Wiki spam |
| 18:50 |
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cait |
I think any test is good, whatever you use for writing them |
| 18:50 |
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cait |
that was me - I noticed we still got a big spam problem |
| 18:50 |
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cait |
and people spend a lot of time cleaning up |
| 18:50 |
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* gmcharlt |
jumps in with a proposal -- a call for volunteers to manually approve wiki user registrations |
| 18:50 |
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cait |
that could be much better used |
| 18:51 |
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cait |
and I support gmcharlt's proposal for that reason :) |
| 18:51 |
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* oleonard |
hopes to start writing tests for JavaScript if he can integrate what he learned over the last couple of days |
| 18:51 |
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rangi |
Me too |
| 18:51 |
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slef |
gmcharlt: me, as long as we can do it without mailbombing me :) |
| 18:51 |
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rangi |
Having deleted 116 pages |
| 18:51 |
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cait |
would be nice to get people from different timezones |
| 18:51 |
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gmcharlt |
slef: indeed - *multiple* volunteers, I should point out :) |
| 18:51 |
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rangi |
In the last month |
| 18:51 |
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druthb |
gmcharlt has made a proposal--does anyone *not* like that idea? |
| 18:52 |
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cait |
how do you see if it's a real person? form the chosen user name? |
| 18:52 |
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druthb |
...anyone think they have a *better* idea? |
| 18:52 |
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rangi |
And of quit doing that so vote yes |
| 18:52 |
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rangi |
Or clean it urself |
| 18:52 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 18:52 |
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cait |
rangi: I think we are not voting, we just silently agreed :P |
| 18:52 |
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thd |
Do we not have automation to better assist with the problem? |
| 18:52 |
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gmcharlt |
cait: yeah, that's one of the ways |
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| 18:53 |
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cait |
gmcharlt: as it was my idea... sign me up |
| 18:53 |
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gmcharlt |
thd: what mediawiki provides has thus far been insufficient without imposing draconian captchas |
| 18:53 |
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slef |
oh, could we add something like "please put a message for the moderators here saying what you'll do" and a message to the thank-you saying to ask on-list if moderators are very very slow ;-) |
| 18:53 |
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thd |
There are antispam extensions. |
| 18:53 |
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slef |
thd: got links? |
| 18:53 |
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cait |
well your solution really, I only wondered about the spam :) |
| 18:53 |
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rangi |
Look |
| 18:53 |
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talljoy |
o.o |
| 18:54 |
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rangi |
Can we just do the moderation |
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* jcamins |
moves that if there are antispam extensions we could use, they should be considered for later, and in the meantime we should take advantage of the people willing to do moderation. |
| 18:54 |
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slef |
far too many mediawiki "antispam" extensions I've seen have little to do with testing spamminess and :-/ |
| 18:54 |
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rangi |
You guys can then argue for months after that |
| 18:54 |
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druthb |
#agreed the wiki will be set to moderate registration--and cait and slef have volunteered to help with that. Other vols are welcome. |
| 18:54 |
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rangi |
About automation |
| 18:54 |
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oleonard |
I volunteer as well |
| 18:54 |
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rangi |
It's been 2 years already |
| 18:54 |
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thd |
rangi: By moderation do you mean that all updates would by pending approval? |
| 18:54 |
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cait |
druthb: now we only got 'europe' covered |
| 18:54 |
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druthb |
beats nothing. |
| 18:55 |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
| 18:55 |
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druthb |
oleonard++ |
| 18:55 |
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rangi |
I volunteer |
| 18:55 |
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thd |
s/by/be/ |
| 18:55 |
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* gmcharlt |
volunteers |
| 18:55 |
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davidnind |
I volunteer to help as well |
| 18:55 |
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rangi |
No just users thd |
| 18:55 |
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slef |
thd: "moderate registration" |
| 18:55 |
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druthb |
rangi++ davidnind++ |
| 18:55 |
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cait |
rangi++ gmcharlt++ and davidnind++ |
| 18:55 |
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druthb |
#info davidnind, rangi, oleonard volunteered as well. Kudos to all of 'em. |
| 18:55 |
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druthb |
All right, moving along. |
| 18:56 |
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druthb |
#topic Miscellaneous --disabled features review |
| 18:56 |
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Topic for #koha is now Miscellaneous --disabled features review |
| 18:56 |
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jcamins |
That's mine. |
| 18:56 |
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jcamins |
This does not require a vote, nor discussion. |
| 18:56 |
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druthb |
jcamins has the floor. |
| 18:56 |
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jcamins |
(nice, huh?) |
| 18:56 |
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oleonard |
I vote yes! |
| 18:56 |
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drojf |
-1 |
| 18:56 |
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drojf |
:P |
| 18:56 |
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druthb |
jcamins++ |
| 18:56 |
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cait |
sorry, what does it mean? |
| 18:56 |
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jcamins |
I wanted to suggest that people start thinking about if we have disabled any features by default that shouldn't be. |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
For example, ExtendedPatronAttributes is disabled by default. |
| 18:57 |
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cait |
aah |
| 18:57 |
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cait |
enhancedmessaging |
| 18:57 |
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rangi |
Case by case basis |
| 18:57 |
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slef |
#action people start thinking about if we have disabled any features by default that shouldn't be |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
However, even if you enable it, it doesn't do anything without further consideration. |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
*configuration |
| 18:57 |
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gmcharlt |
good thought -- for example, I'd been in favor of enabling both mentioned by default |
| 18:57 |
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rangi |
Yep and open bugs to change then? |
| 18:57 |
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slef |
does enhancedmessaging still email you every day if it's enabled and not configured correctly? |
| 18:57 |
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rangi |
Yes |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
So I wanted people to think about things that shouldn't be disabled, and file bugs (and provide patches) about them. |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
slef: so that would be one that shouldn't be enabled by default. |
| 18:58 |
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druthb |
rangi++ #these are minor annoyances when setting up a box, nothing more. A bug and patch to fix them should do. |
| 18:58 |
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rangi |
(to slef) |
| 18:58 |
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slef |
rangi: I thing that behaviour would need changing then. |
| 18:58 |
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rangi |
Yep |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
Or we leave it disabled. Which is fine. |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
Disabled features are not a bad thing. |
| 18:58 |
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slef |
!!:s/thing/think |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
It's just pointlessly disabling features which is pointless. |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
And that's all I had. |
| 18:58 |
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rangi |
So bug would fail :-) |
| 18:58 |
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rangi |
Easy peasy |
| 18:59 |
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cait |
it mails without any configuration for patron categories? |
| 18:59 |
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druthb |
Awesomeness. Okay, we're at the end of the agenda for this meeting, other than fixing the time for our next. |
| 18:59 |
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druthb |
#topic next meeting time? |
| 18:59 |
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Topic for #koha is now next meeting time? |
| 18:59 |
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rangi |
Cait: discuss on bug :) |
| 18:59 |
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cait |
ok :) |
| 18:59 |
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oleonard |
January 9? |
| 18:59 |
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slef |
9th at 10 UTC? |
| 18:59 |
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rangi |
Wfm |
| 19:00 |
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slef |
if it's the usual pattern |
| 19:00 |
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rangi |
Yep |
| 19:00 |
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drojf |
i think it is |
| 19:00 |
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* slef |
checks his calendar ;) |
| 19:00 |
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jcamins |
+1 |
| 19:00 |
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drojf |
and it's 11 for cait :P |
| 19:00 |
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druthb |
January 9, 2013, at 10:00 UTC, it is. |
| 19:00 |
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* cait |
ignores drojf |
| 19:00 |
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druthb |
Thank you all for your participation. |
| 19:00 |
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druthb |
#endmeeting |
| 19:00 |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The next general meeting is 5 December 2012 18:00 UTC |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Dec 5 18:59:41 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 19:00 |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-12-05-18.05.html |
| 19:00 |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]2-12-05-18.05.txt |
| 19:00 |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]05-18.05.log.html |
| 19:00 |
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drojf |
cait: ignore me and be late :P |
| 19:00 |
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drojf |
no chair for you |
| 19:01 |
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cait |
you are so mean |
| 19:01 |
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slef |
would people like meetbot to count votes? |
| 19:01 |
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cait |
no cookies for drojf! |
| 19:01 |
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* druthb |
unpins her hair from the bun, and puts away her glasses and pointy stick. |
| 19:01 |
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drojf |
no i'm not. i just want to hear "you are right" |
| 19:01 |
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druthb |
slef: Yes, that'd be awesome! |
| 19:01 |
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gmcharlt |
slef: yes |
| 19:01 |
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slef |
I've asked gmcharlt and he's willing to change the module over. |
| 19:01 |
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cait |
be prepared to live without coookies for a long time then |
| 19:01 |
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oleonard |
druthb++ # Well-chaired! |
| 19:01 |
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cait |
druthb++ :) |
| 19:01 |
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drojf |
druthb++ |
| 19:02 |
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talljoy |
druthb++ |
| 19:02 |
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slef |
Would we want secret-at-time-of-voting-but-published-at-end votes? |
| 19:02 |
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davidnind |
druthb++ |
| 19:02 |
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druthb |
It's possible, but I'd think it very rare. |
| 19:02 |
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slef |
if that makes sense... too many hyphens... bad adjective |
| 19:02 |
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drojf |
cait: unfair. punishment by no-cookies should be ruled out by some law i am going to make up |
| 19:02 |
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cait |
heh |
| 19:03 |
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cait |
just agree with me that timezones are confusing... and oyu are back on the cookie list |
| 19:03 |
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druthb |
Thanks, folks. |
| 19:03 |
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rambutan |
druthb++ |
| 19:03 |
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rangi |
We never have before |
| 19:03 |
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drojf |
i never disagreed with that |
| 19:03 |
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rangi |
For irc meetings |
| 19:03 |
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slef |
rangi: is that to me? |
| 19:03 |
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drojf |
i dont trust voting computers and bots |
| 19:03 |
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rangi |
Yep |
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druthb |
huginn: botsnack cookie |
| 19:03 |
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huginn |
druthb: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 19:03 |
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cait |
I like the open votes |
| 19:03 |
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cait |
better not have an option |
| 19:03 |
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drojf |
how do i know it does not make up the votes if its secret? |
| 19:03 |
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slef |
drojf: it would publish who voted how at the close of the vote |
| 19:04 |
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slef |
drojf: so if it stole your vote, you can object then ;) |
| 19:04 |
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drojf |
ah ok. people would probably notice :) |
| 19:04 |
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druthb |
cait: meeting-chairsnack? |
| 19:04 |
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rangi |
What's the advantage? |
| 19:04 |
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drojf |
anyway, i don't need it. isn't that just some toy that may break? |
| 19:04 |
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rambutan |
is it not possible to both show votes publicly and have a tally? |
| 19:04 |
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slef |
rangi: stops you being influenced by the other votes ;) |
| 19:05 |
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jcamins |
slef: is that a concern? |
| 19:05 |
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drojf |
slef: if people don't want to make up their own minds, i dont care |
| 19:05 |
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slef |
jcamins: I don't know. I'm not saying whether I agree with it. I did code it because someone else was concerned. |
| 19:05 |
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drojf |
i suppose who doesn't care does not bother to actually vote |
| 19:05 |
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rangi |
Public vote + tally sounds good to me |
| 19:05 |
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gmcharlt |
+1 |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
druthb meeting-chairsnack bowl of cookies |
| 19:06 |
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cait |
+1 from me too |
| 19:06 |
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slef |
gmcharlt: ok, so I think we want https://github.com/openstack-ci/meetbot |
| 19:06 |
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gmcharlt |
slef: ok |
| 19:06 |
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slef |
gmcharlt: which is documented at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html |
| 19:06 |
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druthb |
:) |
| 19:06 |
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slef |
anyone would think I did democracy as part of my day job ;) |
| 19:07 |
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thd |
gmcharlt: Sorry that I had overlooked the portion of the quoted message from Elizabeth McKinney where she asserts the change for GPLS. |
| 19:07 |
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slef |
thd: is GPLS the only copyright holder? |
| 19:07 |
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thd |
slef: exactly |
| 19:07 |
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slef |
thd: hehehe *bonk* |
| 19:08 |
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slef |
(sound of a man laughing his head off) |
| 19:08 |
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rangi |
Well that's that solved :) |
| 19:08 |
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slef |
;-) |
| 19:08 |
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thd |
slef gmcharlt: I had misread the message becouse of the reference to other copyright holders. |
| 19:08 |
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slef |
thd: I missed it too. np |
| 19:09 |
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thd |
gmcharlt: Do either Joe Atzberger, David Fiander, or Dan Scott hold any independent copyright interest from GPLS in openncip? |
| 19:09 |
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gmcharlt |
David Fiander does not |
| 19:10 |
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gmcharlt |
Joe and Dan do, but I can readily get consent from them |
| 19:10 |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: it's already been given. |
| 19:10 |
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thd |
I had periodically been checking the CVS repository to check for changes and seeing none I assumed none. |
| 19:10 |
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gmcharlt |
the CVS repo is a dead issue |
| 19:11 |
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gmcharlt |
git://git.evergreen-ils.org/SIPServer |
| 19:11 |
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jcamins |
http://libmail.georgialibrarie[…]April/004662.html |
| 19:11 |
|
jcamins |
http://libmail.georgialibrarie[…]April/004661.html |
| 19:11 |
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jcamins |
http://libmail.georgialibrarie[…]April/004660.html |
| 19:12 |
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drojf |
that was easy all of a sudden |
| 19:12 |
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slef |
drojf: the meeting's over. That happens. ;-) |
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| 19:13 |
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slef |
gmcharlt: lost access to the unload and load commands? |
| 19:14 |
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drojf |
slef: will you be taking care of bug 9052? |
| 19:14 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages |
| 19:15 |
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thd |
gmcharlt: COPYING.TXT still needs an update, http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?[…]ddec0020c;hb=HEAD |
| 19:15 |
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slef |
drojf: if I do, it'll be in the next hour |
| 19:15 |
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slef |
next 45 minutes |
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gmcharlt |
#startmeeting |
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wahanui |
if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me |
| 19:16 |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' |
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gmcharlt |
#startmeeting test vote |
| 19:16 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Dec 5 19:15:12 2012 UTC. The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 19:16 |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 19:16 |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: test vote) |
| 19:16 |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'test_vote' |
| 19:16 |
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gmcharlt |
#topic answer a pressing question |
| 19:16 |
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Topic for #koha is now answer a pressing question (Meeting topic: test vote) |
| 19:16 |
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slef |
oh yeah, it titles meetings |
| 19:16 |
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slef |
I forgot huginn didn't |
| 19:16 |
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gmcharlt |
#startvote Who rules? Kittens, Puppies |
| 19:16 |
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huginn |
Begin voting on: Who rules? Valid vote options are Kittens, Puppies. |
| 19:16 |
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huginn |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 19:16 |
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slef |
#vote Kittens |
| 19:16 |
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gmcharlt |
#vote Kittens |
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druthb |
#vote Kittens |
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jcamins |
#vote Kittens |
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oleonard |
#vote Puppies |
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drojf |
#vote Kittens |
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slef |
#showvote |
| 19:17 |
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rangi |
#vote puppies |
| 19:17 |
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huginn |
Puppies (1): oleonard |
| 19:17 |
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huginn |
Kittens (5): gmcharlt, jcamins, drojf, slef, druthb |
| 19:17 |
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oleonard |
Had to have an opposition didn't we? |
| 19:17 |
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gmcharlt |
now that I have the result I want... :) |
| 19:17 |
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gmcharlt |
#endvote |
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slef |
oleonard: splitter! |
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huginn |
Voted on "Who rules?" Results are |
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huginn |
Puppies (2): oleonard, rangi |
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huginn |
Kittens (5): gmcharlt, jcamins, drojf, slef, druthb |
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gmcharlt |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The next general meeting is 5 December 2012 18:00 UTC |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Dec 5 19:16:43 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: koha/2012/koha.2012-12-05-19.15.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): koha/2012/koha.2012-12-05-19.15.txt |
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huginn |
Log: koha/2012/koha.2012-12-05-19.15.log.html |
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slef |
#agreed Kittens rule |
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slef |
oh well |
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druthb |
Cats rule; dogs drool. |
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* oleonard |
concedes that puppies indeed drool |
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slef |
gmcharlt: config needs http://meetings.koha-community.org/ again :-/ |
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* thd |
is not allergic to drool :) |
| 19:18 |
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slef |
and generally putting in the right place for that |
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drojf |
i think i asked that before, but how would i test a package bug like bug 9052? if i ever did, it did not involve actually rolling the package. |
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jcamins |
drojf: I'd just roll a package. |
| 19:20 |
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drojf |
then maybe i never did :) |
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drojf |
the last time i wanted to try how to make packages from git the sd card in the raspberry pi died, i never tried again |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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jcamins |
lol |
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slef |
rangi: I'm a bit worried about this tv programme http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01p7q2l.mp (War on Britain's Roads) is going to be full of what you call asshats. |
| 19:22 |
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rangi |
I suspect so |
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slef |
rangi: we had a budget today, so it's the day for such hattery. |
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slef |
amusingly, identica made the shortlink for where I was commenting http://ur1.ca/bum80 |
| 19:23 |
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rangi |
Ahh hehe |
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gmcharlt |
#startmeeting testy-testy |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Dec 5 19:22:38 2012 UTC. The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: testy-testy) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'testy_testy' |
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gmcharlt |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The next general meeting is 5 December 2012 18:00 UTC |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Dec 5 19:22:42 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-12-05-19.22.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]2-12-05-19.22.txt |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]05-19.22.log.html |
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slef |
oooh |
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rangi |
Cool |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The next general meeting is 9 January 2013 10:00 UTC |
| 19:24 |
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slef |
fixed |
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rangi |
My stop bbiab |
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magnuse |
gah, i forgot the meeting! |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
| 19:26 |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to be a librarian? perhaps MARC was invented to answer it ;)" (added by chris at 12:50 PM, June 12, 2009) |
| 19:26 |
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drojf |
why is "Allow for html in letters in overdue notices" a critical bug? html in emails is a bug |
| 19:27 |
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druthb |
@quote random |
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huginn |
druthb: Quote #100: "chris: well, one of them is overhauling the whole templating system jcamins: Koha's other swiss army chainsaw" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, October 11, 2010) |
| 19:27 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
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slef |
magnuse: would you have changed anything in http://meetings.koha-community[…]-12-05-18.05.html ? |
| 19:27 |
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slef |
drojf++ |
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jcamins |
drojf: because without that patch, it doesn't work at all? |
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drojf |
jcamins: then the option is the bug :P |
| 19:28 |
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jcamins |
No, I mean without that patch no non-English e-mails worked. |
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jcamins |
That's why it was critical. |
| 19:30 |
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* thd |
goes to the console. |
| 19:31 |
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drojf |
jcamins: oh. that's odd. i haven't read all comments, i thought html is optional and broken if turned on, otherwise fine |
| 19:31 |
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magnuse |
slef: no, but i would (will) volunteer for moderating registrations on the wiki |
| 19:31 |
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slef |
magnuse: tell it to the gmcharlt ;) |
| 19:33 |
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jcamins |
drojf: I think at some point it got switched around. |
| 19:33 |
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druthb |
First meeting I chair here, and magnuse misses it. I'm hurt. |
| 19:33 |
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magnuse |
gmcharlt: i hereby volunteer for moderating registrations on the wiki (i already have some kind of extra privileges, not sure if any more are needed) |
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slef |
druthb: magnuse hates you. It's clear. |
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magnuse |
moahahah |
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* druthb |
pouts. |
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druthb |
beware the ebil Norwegians! |
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magnuse |
i couldn't stand te suspense - would druthb be able to pull it off?!? |
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magnuse |
moahahah |
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magnuse |
land of black metal... |
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magnuse |
kia ora eythian |
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eythian_ |
wasn't there a meeting thing about now, or are my timezones off? |
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drojf |
lol |
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druthb |
your timezones are off. |
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eythian_ |
that'll do it. |
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drojf |
cait could chair a meeting for magnuse and eythian |
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* eythian_ |
returns to breakfast |
| 19:34 |
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oleonard |
So are we waiting for a configuration change before learning how registration moderation will work? |
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slef |
oleonard: I think gmcharlt likes keeping us in suspense here |
| 19:35 |
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cait |
oleonard: I was hoping gmcharlt would give us hints after changing the config |
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* oleonard |
can't wait to start crushing people's wiki dreams!! |
| 19:35 |
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rangi |
back |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
how was your conf oleonard? :) |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: yes, there's a configuration change first |
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gmcharlt |
give me a few minutes |
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slef |
can someone remind me how I remove git remote branches and objects that I don't care about any more? |
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oleonard |
cait: It was very informative. Got over my head a bit at the end, but really good stuff. |
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rangi |
the big sideeffect of this will be |
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slef |
git remote prune only does so much |
| 19:36 |
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rangi |
recentchanges actually becomes useful again |
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cait |
yay :) |
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oleonard |
cait: They spent some time on git, so I had no trouble there, but the more advanced javascript was pretty heavy |
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cait |
oleonard: I saw your tweets - hoped you were having fun :) |
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magnuse |
recentchanges++ |
| 19:38 |
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oleonard |
Hopefully after I spend some time going over what was covered I will have some suggestions for Koha |
| 19:39 |
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magnuse |
not sure how we tell what are legitimate registrations, though? and there might still be a lot of spam from accounts already created, unless gmcharlt finds some magic way to delete all accounts that have not made any edits yet, or something |
| 19:39 |
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* cait |
is hoping for some simple instructions |
| 19:39 |
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slef |
"secret ballot is a voting method in which a voter's choices in an election or a referendum are anonymous. The key aim is to ensure the voter records a sincere choice by forestalling attempts to influence the voter by intimidation or bribery." (wikipedia) |
| 19:39 |
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rangi |
i think we start from now magnuse |
| 19:39 |
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rangi |
ie all old ones just stay |
| 19:39 |
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rangi |
the spam always comes from new accounts |
| 19:39 |
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slef |
Not sure how much it achieves that if the results are published, actually. |
| 19:40 |
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magnuse |
yeah, i expect so, rangi |
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magnuse |
oops, gotta run |
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slef |
I think gnustep asks people to mail the list to get editing enabled. |
| 19:40 |
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rangi |
slef: yeah |
| 19:40 |
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slef |
Not sure if that's good or not. |
| 19:40 |
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oleonard |
I think this is a good option to try out |
| 19:41 |
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oleonard |
We'll see how it goes and re-evaluate if necessary |
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slef |
"The United Kingdom secret ballot arrangements are sometimes criticised because it is possible to link a ballot paper to the voter who cast it. Each ballot paper is individually numbered and each elector also has a number." (wikipedia again) |
| 19:41 |
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slef |
oh great, I'm like the United Kingdom :-/ |
| 19:41 |
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gmcharlt |
magnuse: actually, trimming accounts that have made no edits yet is easy to do |
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wizzyrea |
cait: separate thing - scanning ISBN's or barcodes in acquisitions - the auto carriage return on barcode scanners is an ergonomic thing (submits the form before people are usually ready) - do you know if there is a bug for it? I can't find one but I thought since you had done all that work in acq you might know if that had been fixed |
| 19:42 |
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gmcharlt |
I'm sure that will catch folks that have registered but never made any edits, but that can be readily explained via postings to the mailing lists |
| 19:42 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: yes - and it should be fixed in master I tihnk |
| 19:42 |
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wizzyrea |
cooooooool |
| 19:42 |
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rangi |
gmcharlt: true |
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wizzyrea |
do you know which bug number? |
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wahanui |
which bug number is probably it? |
| 19:42 |
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cait |
not sure about isbn's but I know I checked one for barcodes |
| 19:42 |
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wizzyrea |
fab fab fab |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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cait |
trying to figure it out, give me a sec |
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wizzyrea |
ah is np |
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wizzyrea |
I found it bug 8557 |
| 19:43 |
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cait |
bug 8557 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8557 normal, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Stable , in orderreceive.tt and serials-edit.tt the use of a barcode scan send the form unexpectedly |
| 19:43 |
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cait |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
HIGHFIVE |
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cait |
HIGHFIVE |
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slef |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]ballot#Secrecy_vs._reliability if anyone wants more |
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eythian_ |
wahanui: highfive is <reply>gimmie six! |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian_. |
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* slef |
gives wahanui a highfive and a finger |
| 19:45 |
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slef |
oh wait |
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| 19:49 |
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slef |
warning while applying bug 9052's patch:14: tab in indent. |
| 19:49 |
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slef |
$(TMP)/usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/lib/yui |
| 19:49 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages |
| 19:49 |
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rangi |
that patch doesnt work |
| 19:50 |
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slef |
hahaha |
| 19:50 |
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rangi |
we already tested it |
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* slef |
goes changes the status |
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jcamins |
The indentation in that file *must* be a tab. |
| 19:50 |
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jcamins |
FWIW |
| 19:50 |
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rangi |
and yes |
| 19:50 |
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rangi |
do not change that :) |
| 19:50 |
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slef |
someone's tip on git config was wrong then |
| 19:50 |
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rangi |
but its more that the files are still not in the right place |
| 19:51 |
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rangi |
is why that patch didnt work |
| 19:51 |
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slef |
is this new in 3.10? |
| 19:51 |
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slef |
as in, will a diff against 3.8 illuminate? |
| 19:51 |
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rangi |
yep, the files were moved |
| 19:51 |
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rangi |
no |
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jcamins |
slef: that is the only file in the whole Koha codebase that should have tabs for indentation. |
| 19:51 |
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rangi |
we know the files are moved |
| 19:51 |
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rangi |
its just the packaging doesnt |
| 19:52 |
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rangi |
and that fix, doesnt move them correctly |
| 19:52 |
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slef |
Changes submitted for bug 9052 |
| 19:53 |
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slef |
[apply] |
| 19:53 |
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slef |
whitespace = fix |
| 19:53 |
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slef |
^^ I just delete that from the git config, right? |
| 19:53 |
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* slef |
RTFMs |
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jcamins |
You should do that only when testing this one patch. |
| 19:54 |
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slef |
y'all suck ;) |
| 19:54 |
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slef |
torturing me |
| 19:54 |
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jcamins |
Blame Debian. |
| 19:54 |
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slef |
I do. Frequently. Haven't you heard? |
| 19:54 |
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slef |
They loooove me ;) |
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slef |
whitespace = warn is the default |
| 19:55 |
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slef |
I can leave it disabled and think for myself I think |
| 19:56 |
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rangi |
i only clean up trailing whitespace |
| 19:56 |
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rangi |
git config --global core.whitespace trailing-space,space-before-tab |
| 19:57 |
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rangi |
and spaces before tabs |
| 19:57 |
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rangi |
i dont automatically change tabs to spaces |
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rangi |
cos thats just dangerous |
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slef |
hrm, wonder who persauded me to add that |
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slef |
nm |
| 20:01 |
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rangi |
http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]patches-with-git/ <-- that's what i do |
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slef |
yeah, I found that. Twice. ;-) |
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slef |
Plus rickw arguing for nowarn. |
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rangi |
someone may have extended it to do tabs too |
| 20:02 |
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rangi |
rickw did a lot of arguing for not a lot of code |
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slef |
it's like you say on the wiki, added by drojf IIRC |
| 20:02 |
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rangi |
his energy could have been chanelled better |
| 20:03 |
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slef |
meh, I disagree... best discover if you agree with a project before wasting work on it |
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slef |
else it just makes you resent it even more later |
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rangi |
yeah but 1.5 years of discovering |
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rangi |
? |
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rangi |
seriously? |
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rangi |
thats a good use of your life, specially if you are being paid to work on said project |
| 20:05 |
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rangi |
i guess i value my own time more than that |
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slef |
yeah that's a bit more |
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slef |
I wonder if he was being ordered to work on it too, but didn't want to. |
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rangi |
could be |
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slef |
So the pressure escaped sideways. |
| 20:07 |
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rangi |
or he might have just been argumentative by nature :) |
| 20:07 |
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rangi |
some ppl are doers some are talkers |
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rangi |
so maybe just in the wrong role |
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slef |
I don't think there are such people. It's a dog helps dog world. But sometimes we can't overcome all the nurture-caused problems. |
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slef |
Probably wrong role. |
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rangi |
either way, id like the 17 or so hours i wasted on emails wiht him back *grin* |
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rangi |
did you ever see the movie in time? |
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slef |
it's gone, let go |
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slef |
the movie "in time"? |
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rangi |
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1637688/ |
| 20:10 |
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rangi |
trading in time |
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oleonard |
Oh my god that movie was so bad. |
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slef |
not that I remember |
| 20:10 |
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rangi |
i saw it on the flight to kohacon |
| 20:10 |
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rangi |
it is bad |
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slef |
oleonard: I thought that from the cast, but 6.6/10 ??? |
| 20:11 |
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rangi |
interesting premise .. could have been a good movie, instead was crap |
| 20:11 |
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oleonard |
Hey I think I saw that on an airplane too! |
| 20:11 |
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rangi |
thats where i watch movies |
| 20:11 |
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rangi |
i get no time anywhere else |
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slef |
I think I was watching the avengers films and something else on planes this year |
| 20:11 |
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slef |
seen skyfall at cinema... and I'm sure I've seen something else but I can't tell you what. |
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wahanui |
I haven't seen 'skyfall', slef |
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slef |
wahanui: no, you don't watch many films, do you? |
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wahanui |
slef: i haven't a clue |
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slef |
wahanui: prat |
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wahanui |
slef: i'm not following you... |
| 20:12 |
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slef |
wahanui: clearly |
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wahanui |
slef: excuse me? |
| 20:12 |
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slef |
wahanui: figures |
| 20:12 |
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wahanui |
I like *your* figure |
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slef |
wahanui: pervert |
| 20:12 |
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wahanui |
slef: huh? |
| 20:12 |
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slef |
wahanui: sixth question? |
| 20:12 |
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wahanui |
sixth question is "Why are you still asking wahanui?" or "How bored are you?" |
| 20:13 |
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slef |
bug 7494 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, In Discussion , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout |
| 20:14 |
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drojf |
jcamins: how do i reproduce bug 9136? i try adding a tag in opac detail view and it works the same (=not really) with plack and without: i can enter the tag text, click 'add' and nothing happens, when i reload the page the tag is added. no error |
| 20:14 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9136 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , C4::Tags not Plack-compatible |
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jcamins |
drojf: does Firebug give youa 500 error? |
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cait |
drojf++ for signing off |
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drojf |
no but i get some other funny error. maybe something is weird on my end |
| 20:17 |
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drojf |
let me see |
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slef |
huginn: query street address |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4041 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Address Format as a I18N/L10N system preference |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3765 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Road Types and Street Numbers on Patron Rec Inconsistent |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , Add a "Street Address" search option to the patrons search |
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slef |
huginn: query autoMemberSuffix |
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huginn |
slef: No results for "autoMemberSuffix." |
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slef |
huginn: bum |
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huginn |
slef: downloading the Perl source |
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slef |
huginn: query analytic item types |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7716 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , Statistical/analytic item type |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8738 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , DateTime object being compared to a date string in circulation |
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cait |
slef: what are you looking for? |
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phlunk |
Hey everyone, I have what I presume is a basic question. Can someone tell me how to add the where statement to not display books which are checked out to the following query? http://pastebin.com/7gdQnRMJ |
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slef |
cait: things I need |
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cait |
and items.onloan is NULL |
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cait |
untested |
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slef |
cait: I'm just trying to track stuff I've touched with a particular hat on but not used for a while, but now is dinner. |
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phlunk |
thank you cait |
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drojf |
jcamins: found my error (remainder of a test in opacuserjs). can't reproduce your bug, works ok for me, i get an "added tags" (or similar, using german version) message. i am not using starman, just running opac.psgi, could that be a reason? |
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jcamins |
drojf: yeah, it might be STarman-specific. |
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jcamins |
*Starman |
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jcamins |
I can reproduce it every time. |
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drojf |
ok i should start to use starman then. but not tonight. unless i return at 3am again :/ |
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drojf |
good night #koha |
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cait |
good night drojf |
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magnuse |
@later tell slef: someone was asking about edifact the other day, maybe you could update bug 2443 with a status, and comment on the relationship to bug 7736 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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slef |
magnuse: why not just ask me? I'm aware of it, need to check my case notes for a long-dead :-( project and I don't think there's any relationship to bug 7736. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7736 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mark.gavillet, Failed QA , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality |
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slef |
I'm aware of the thread |
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magnuse |
slef: i just asked you :-) |
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slef |
Without looking, I'd love to extract the code and throw it over the wall (which is probably the best we can do now) in case someone can still use it, but we've failed to get it into a publishable (let alone QA-ready) state, as did our partners. |
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slef |
So not easy. Not great code. |
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slef |
If I had more money = more time, ... |
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slef |
more money||time |
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slef |
I hesitate to suggest someone pay for that time, as it might still not work :-/ - maybe I should put it up on a crowdfunding site, first to publish, then to get it to release. |
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magnuse |
yeah, could be worth a try |
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slef |
Then no-one would be under any illusions that the published code would work. |
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slef |
I fear it's at least vendor-specific and might even be client-specific. |
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slef |
Vendors don't exactly run forwards to support EDI development :-/ |
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slef |
That surprised me. I thought vendors might want to sell stuff to more people more easily ;) |
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magnuse |
you'd think that would make some kind of sense, yes... |
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* magnuse |
calls it a day |
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rangi |
cya magnuse |
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cait |
bye magnuse |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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* slef |
breaks for dinner |
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oleonard |
See you later #koha |
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wizzyrea |
bah lol just as I have a question for him :) |
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francharb |
hi all |
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jatara |
Are there any ways we can allow a user to run reports, but not create them? |
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cait |
jatara: have you checked user permissions? |
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cait |
I am nto sure it works like advertised, but I think we got the permissoins to do just that |
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jatara |
Yes, we have. We disabled "create SQL reports" for them, but it prevented them from being able to run reports, believe it or not. |
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jatara |
We want them to run previously created reports, but not create new ones themselves. |
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mtj |
jatara, it sounds like a bug? |
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mtj |
.. perhaps you could document your problem in Koha's bugzilla |
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cait |
yep, def a bug |
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jatara |
Ok. Will document. |
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* rangi |
boggles |
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cait |
hm? |
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wizzyrea |
you are boggling? |
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rangi |
see the patches mailing list |
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wizzyrea |
ohh... |
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rangi |
http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ember/017583.html |
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rangi |
im gonna forward it to the main list |
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wizzyrea |
indeed - wut? |
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rangi |
but yeah 3.00.06 |
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rangi |
thats like from 312 BC |
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wizzyrea |
hehe we used to say that about 2.x ;) |
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wizzyrea |
that one is from the 'before time' |
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wizzyrea |
in the beginning there was koha, and it was good. |
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wizzyrea |
and then there was 3.2, and it was better. |
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wizzyrea |
and then came the golden age of Koha |
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wizzyrea |
and many songs were written |
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wizzyrea |
(the rest of the story - who knows) |
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eythian |
I think we should have an email party on koha-patches when sjohnsonAThpplnj.org returns and turns off the auto-away. |
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jcamins |
lol |
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jcamins |
Agreed. |
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nengard |
hi all, |
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nengard |
I'm training a new library and i remember a dev/enh that i can't find a bug report for |
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nengard |
am i dreaming or was there a dev to keep the history of messages put on a patron's record? |
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nengard |
anyone know the bug number? |
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wizzyrea |
message history has been in for a long time |
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cait |
library messages? or notices? |
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nengard |
messages left on the circulation page - not notices |
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nengard |
where you click 'add a new message' on the checkout screen |
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nengard |
those messages |
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wizzyrea |
that has also been there for a long time - but it depends on how you add the message. There is no history if you delete them. |
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nengard |
i thought i saw somehting where a log was being kept of the messages even after they were deleted |
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nengard |
i probably am imagining it |
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gmcharlt |
since the MediaWiki ConfirmAccount plugin suggets one, I've created a "terms of service" page for the wiki |
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gmcharlt |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]:Terms_of_Service |
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gmcharlt |
as you can see, it's *very* minimal, but if anybody wants to extend it or discuss extending it ... here it is |
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rangi |
ohh cool |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
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rangi |
jatara: i think you might have updated the wrong bug, that one is only for exactly 1 report, the overdue items .. not all |
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rangi |
so even if htat was in, it wouldn't do what you were asking |
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gmcharlt |
cait: slef: rangi: you're now set to confirm/deny new user registrations on the wiki - go to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]l:ConfirmAccounts to see the queue |
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gmcharlt |
@later tell oleonard you're now set to confirm/deny new user registrations on the wiki - go to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]l:ConfirmAccounts to see the queue |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
thanks |
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gmcharlt |
@later tell davidnind you're now set to confirm/deny new user registrations on the wiki - go to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]l:ConfirmAccounts to see the queue |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
ah, empty queue? |
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eythian |
what table(s) do authorities end up in? |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: thd-away: and any other folks who have the admin or the beaurecrat bit on the wiki ... you can do that too |
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jcamins |
auth_header. |
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wahanui |
i guess auth_header is empty |
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jcamins |
Sorta. |
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gmcharlt |
cait: yep |
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eythian |
jcamins: say I wanted to delete them all from SQL, I'd just truncate that? |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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jcamins |
And reindex the authorities. |
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eythian |
cool ta |
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jcamins |
But that will leave any links that might have been in the bibs. |
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eythian |
how do I delete them? |
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eythian |
oh |
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eythian |
I'm deleting all the bibs too |
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jcamins |
So if you want to remove those you need to either delete all $9s or ... |
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jcamins |
okay, no problem there. |
| 22:18 |
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eythian |
(this is tidying up the database in prep for a final migration) |
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wizzyrea |
oh cooool |
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wizzyrea |
ty gmcharlt |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt++ |
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magnuse |
gmcharlt: i'm in the Administrators group, but not Bureaucrats. on http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]l:ConfirmAccounts i get "Permission error - The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Bureaucrats." |
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* magnuse |
goes to sleep |
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phlunk |
exit |
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phlunk |
oops lmao |
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gmcharlt |
magnuse: ah, OK |
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gmcharlt |
I'll make admins bureaucrats, then |
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gmcharlt |
*also* bureaucrats |
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rangi |
gmcharlt++ # good email |
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gmcharlt |
magnuse: ok, it should work for you now |
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gmcharlt |
(and holy cow, there are a ton of accounts) |
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rangi |
yes, yes there are |
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tcohen |
existing accounts remain untouched, right? |
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cait |
can we block someone approved that starts spamming too? |
| 22:41 |
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tcohen |
i'll try not to ask too much then :-P |
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rangi |
cait: yep |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: heh; correct, existing accounts won't be touched unless they meet the criteria for the purge |
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gmcharlt |
namely: already blocked, or "contributed" spam, or at least 10 days old and *never* made any edits |
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tcohen |
perfect |
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rangi |
hehe |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]hors&wpShowHeld=0 |
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rangi |
for those that can see |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: I dunno.. that character seems mighty suspicious |
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* rangi |
rejects them |
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gmcharlt |
:P |
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rangi |
works perfectly |
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rangi |
gmcharlt++ |
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jcamins |
bag: if you're interested in looking at a squashed and rebased version of the search rewrite, I have that in an sr_squashed branch. |
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eythian |
http://durdn.com/blog/2012/12/[…]ps-and-workflows/ <-- nothing too exciting there, but good for people who want to know a few more handy tricks |
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jcamins |
As an aside, a side-effect of the way the configuration works is that with a tiny code change it would be possible to specify callbacks in the configuration file. |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure about that git stash tip... why would I want to do that? |
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eythian |
the workflow there would work fine without the stash entirely, I think |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that's what I thought. |
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mtj |
oh man, just reading back the meeting from last nite |
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mtj |
jesus wept |
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jcamins |
mtj: the new license passed. |
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mtj |
ah, i hadnt clicked to that yet |
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mtj |
18:46druthb#agreed GPLv3+, as of 3.12.0, with two exceptions, and pending the openncip issue. |
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mtj |
ah, so it was… :) |
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jcamins |
The OpenNCIP issue was resolved. |
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jcamins |
Well prior to the meeting. |
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mtj |
thats the best Koha news i've heard in many years |
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