Time Nick Message 22:49 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "example of IP block with ufw firewall for a crawler. note you must have the DENY before the ALLOW rule" (28 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/42128 22:34 wajasu did a ufw reload, and tail -f /var/log/koha/<kohainstance>/plack.log and the crawler isn't getting in for now. 22:33 wajasu well, since i was using ufw, i added: ufw insert 1 deny from <Crawler_IP> to any 22:15 wajasu oh. maybe i need to get the ufw rule before the https access :) 22:13 mmost [PerplexedTheta] I got fooled by X-Forwarded-For a while back 22:13 mmost [PerplexedTheta] Do you use cloudflare or something similar? 22:12 wajasu its keeping my VPS server CPU at 40% so my opac take 60secs to return a page. 22:11 wajasu are requests somehow queued to rabbitmq or some other plack mechanism? is that why i still see request soming in. 22:10 wajasu i put a ufw deny rule for that IP, but i still have GET requests coming in the plack.log 22:10 wajasu i have this one IP that I suspect is from a crawler, as its mentioned in the 1st colum of plack.log. 22:09 mmost [PerplexedTheta] perplexedtheta updated the channel purpose to: A bridge between the IRC and Mattermost servers 22:09 mmost [PerplexedTheta] perplexedtheta updated the channel display name from: IRC Bridge to: IRC bridge 20:07 huginn` 04Bug 29087: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds to pull list can crash with a SQL::Abstract puke 20:07 dpk This bug was called out earlier as possibly related: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29087 20:04 wajasu i'm not in the position to look at any code right now. 20:03 wajasu https://stackoverflow.com/questions/129077/null-values-inside-not-in-clause 20:03 wajasu dpk: maybe we have the situation for Koha::Items using IN ... NULL and this warning is rewriting accordingly. 19:58 dpk Found in plack-opac-error.log 19:57 dpk at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 2049. 19:57 dpk [2024/04/15 20:37:47] [WARN] No method count found for Koha::Items DBIx::Class::SQLMaker::ClassicExtensions::puke(): Fatal: NULL-within-IN not implemented: The upcoming SQL::Abstract::Classic 2.0 will emit the logically correct SQL instead of raising this exception. at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Objects.pm line 583 19:57 dpk Now I just want to get to the bottom of this error: 19:56 dpk We don't have any reserve traffic - not really that kind of library. Probably reasonable to add it to the list. 19:48 wajasu i reconciled you robots to mine. mine was about the same, but i didn't have the Semrush line and Cache-delay. Mine had the opac-reserve.pl though. i'm about to reload my webserver. 19:42 mmost [caroline] good! 19:41 bag nice 19:39 dpk Hey, GOOD NEWS. Amazonbot has disappeared from my sight. Looks like they reread the robots.txt file or my email to them was acted on. 19:16 wajasu whoa. I'm getting bogged down now as well. I'm investigating. 19:15 wajasu whoa. I'm getting bogged down now as well. I'm investigating. 19:08 dpk This is the robots.txt file I currently have: https://dpaste.com/F49PD8WQ3 19:04 wajasu i was getting slammed every by bots every few months. i updated my robots.txt and it took 4 days before they stopped coming. my CPU dropped to make the opac usable again. that was last November 19:04 mmost [PerplexedTheta] But haven't gone for entire ASNs yet 19:04 mmost [PerplexedTheta] We've blocked a few of their subnets 18:20 mmost [ashimema] I suggested the subnet approach.. we haven't quite got to that point yet.. but I think we're close too 18:14 mmost [wizzyrea] i'm both relieved and unnerved that it's not just us 18:13 mmost [wizzyrea] we block it - are almost to the point of blocking their subnets 18:13 mmost [wizzyrea] it's Quite Strange 18:10 mmost [PerplexedTheta] I think its people using alibabacloud.com for botting 18:09 mmost [PerplexedTheta] Probably nation state stuff. Which is worse 18:09 mmost [PerplexedTheta] I think its people using cloud.alibaba.com for botting 18:09 mmost [PerplexedTheta] I don't think its bots specifically commissioned by alibaba 18:09 mmost [PerplexedTheta] @wizzyrea we've been getting alibaba stuff too 18:09 mmost [PerplexedTheta] @wizzyrea we've been getting alibaba stuff to 17:52 dpk I thing this may be a bug in the default robots.txt file and related docs for Koha. I suspect the actual URLs in use may have altered over the years, dropping the /cgi-bin prefix, or perhaps it just works with both (have not tested). 17:50 dpk once a day and it was clearly missing the URLs they were using. 17:50 dpk Amazon explicitly says they will respect robots.txt. I will take that on faith for now. They only read that file 17:41 mmost [wizzyrea] lots of scrapers don't honour robots.txt. If it's unidentifiable as "helpful" we often block aws IP's 17:38 mmost [rtrhimanshu] Is there a way to import Descriptions of books from amazon 17:22 dpk But I have to wait for them to re-read the file before it takes effect. 17:22 dpk I now have both paths in the file. 17:21 dpk but the robots.txt file was lacking the URLs they were using (E.g. /opac/opac-search.pl vs /cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl) 17:21 dpk They are not supposed to be able to do that. 17:20 dpk The searches they are doing are just overwhelming our server's capacity. 17:13 mmost [wizzyrea] we've been getting a lot of alibaba bots recently, just scraping 17:12 dpk The robots.txt file lacked the URL they were usings (they omitted the /cgi-bin/ prefix) 17:12 mmost [wizzyrea] hm ok 17:11 dpk wizzyrea: I was commenting earlier that Amazon bots were DDOSing our catalog. 17:11 dpk Bummer. 17:11 mmost [wizzyrea] did someone say that amazon cover images were being a problem today? 17:10 mmost [ashimema] he'll have finished for the day now dpk 17:10 dpk mmost: mblenk - are you still around? 17:09 dpk mmost is fine. 17:09 mmost [PerplexedTheta] `mmost` should be concise enough hopefully? 17:08 mmost [PerplexedTheta] It was rejected - probably reserved? Name kept getting changed to Guest 17:08 ashimema mm worked for me too 17:06 mmost [PerplexedTheta] Has that worked? 17:05 reiveune bye 17:05 Guest1180 [PerplexedTheta] I see - I can try mmost 17:04 dpk XChatAzure on the Mac 17:04 Guest1180 [PerplexedTheta] What client do you use? 17:04 Guest1180 [PerplexedTheta] It was working okay in WeeChat 17:04 dpk mattermost is too long. 17:03 dpk I preferred mm, but as long as its 9 characters or less, you don't mess up the formatting in the IRC client. 17:03 Guest1180 [PerplexedTheta] mm is being rejected 17:03 Guest1180 [PerplexedTheta] I think we will need to put the nick back to mattermost 17:02 Guest1180 [ashimema] chat.koha-community.org 17:02 Guest1180 [PerplexedTheta] The mattermost server, which is hosted in DigitalOcean 17:01 dpk What service are you using matterbridge to gateway? 17:01 * mm [ashimema] considers removing his element client now. 17:01 mm [PerplexedTheta] Done 17:00 mattermost [PerplexedTheta] Seems fair 16:59 dpk We can always see what mm is by doing a right click on mm in the user list. 16:58 dpk Shrink the mattermost nick to mm? 16:57 mattermost [PerplexedTheta] I think that is probably the most concise 16:57 perplexedtheta Now try 16:57 perplexedtheta Bad timing! 16:57 ashimema Matrixx text 16:55 matterbridge <PerplexedTheta> Is that better? 16:53 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> I can remove the protocol line 16:53 dpk Whoever is running the bridge to this channel will need to look into this. 16:52 dpk Definitely looks like there is config that would help here: https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/blob/master/README.md#settings 16:50 dpk tadzik: I agree - not sure what the bridge is, but its configuration probably needs tweaking. 16:48 dpk mblenk: Yes, most of our itemtypes (except books) are marked not-for-loan. 16:46 tadzik is it necessary for the bridge to prefix every IRC message with "[mattermost] "? It's quite obvious that this is where the messages are coming from, and it just adds noise and makes things harder to read 16:42 matterbridge [mattermost] <rtrhimanshu> ok 16:40 matterbridge [mattermost] <caroline> you can save it and then do Edit > Edit with template 16:39 matterbridge [mattermost] <caroline> hm, I don't think you can use MARC modifiation templates during z39.50 imports, no... someone correct me if I'm wrong. 16:38 matterbridge [mattermost] <rtrhimanshu> I normally use z39.50 to import data so while importing the data gets imported in 264 so i wondered if there is any way to get in 260 16:37 matterbridge [mattermost] <caroline> yep, it happens sometimes... you can comment on it to maybe try to revive it 16:37 matterbridge [mattermost] <rtrhimanshu> that bug is still pending no one has worked on it 16:36 matterbridge [mattermost] <caroline> It's not automatic, but it can be used in batch modification, on single records, or when importing MARC files 16:36 matterbridge [mattermost] <caroline> 264 -> 260 you can use MARC modification templates https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/cataloging.html#marc-modification-templates 16:35 huginn` 04Bug 13901: normal, P5 - low, ---, dudzikmichal, Patch doesn't apply , sort1 and sort2 not on self registration form 16:35 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13901 normal, P5 - low, ---, dudzikmichal, Patch doesn't apply , sort1 and sort2 not on self registration form 16:35 matterbridge [mattermost] <caroline> [Bug 13901](https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13901) 16:35 matterbridge [mattermost] <rtrhimanshu> Also is it possible to get automatic data from 264 to 260 16:35 matterbridge [mattermost] <caroline> I think I remember a bug about that... let me check 16:34 matterbridge [mattermost] <rtrhimanshu> I was wondering if anyone has tried to bring sort1 and sort2 visible in self registration of patrons 16:34 matterbridge [mattermost] <rtrhimanshu> Hello 16:33 matterbridge [mattermost] <caroline> hello @rtrhimanshu 16:31 matterbridge [mattermost] <rtrhimanshu> Is anyone live here 16:30 matterbridge [mattermost] <rtrhimanshu> Hello 16:25 matterbridge [mattermost] <mblenk> I'm heading out shortly dpk, I'll be back online tomorrow if you still need help. Have a look at the bug I mentioned above and see if that sounds like the issue you're having 16:21 matterbridge [mattermost] <mblenk> Do you have any itemtypes in your system that are marked as 'Not for loan'? 16:21 dpk Need to leave the terminal for about 25 minutes. will check back here when I return. 16:20 dpk Our library is a research and archive library so we have lots of items that are not for loan, so this could be relevant. 16:18 dpk No - I'll need a little more explanation. 16:16 matterbridge [mattermost] <mblenk> Does that make sense dpk? 16:16 matterbridge [mattermost] <mblenk> Then when we have a suitable patch you can delete that itemtype 16:15 matterbridge [mattermost] <mblenk> That should prevent the error appearing, just make sure none of your items are linked to that dummy itemtype 16:15 matterbridge [mattermost] <mblenk> I think the best way around it for now until we have a patch is to create a dummy itemtype with the `notforloan` column set to 1 16:15 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> Did we end up deploying this on the customer @mblenk ? If not, something to look at / try 16:15 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> Did we end up deploying this on the customer @mblenk ? If not, something to look at 16:14 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> Ha damn, thats amazing, it triggers the bot in IRC too 16:14 matterbridge [mattermost] <mblenk> Although it says 'Holds to pull' it uses the same method 16:13 huginn` 04Bug 29087: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds to pull list can crash with a SQL::Abstract puke 16:13 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29087 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds to pull list can crash with a SQL::Abstract puke 16:13 matterbridge [mattermost] <mblenk> [Bug 29087](https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29087) 16:13 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> Yeah it is 16:11 dpk Still interested in this NULL-within-IN error though. 16:11 matterbridge [mattermost] <ashimema> @perplexedtheta isn't this what we saw today? 16:11 dpk I have updated robots.txt, but it will take hours before they re-read it and stop. 16:11 dpk This has been exacerbated today because the Amazon bots descended on us. I found that they were using a URL of /opac/opac-search.pl instead of /cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl so the recommended robots.txt file was not effective. 16:09 dpk And similar error at a lesser rate for some other queries like /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-ISBDdetail.pl line 188. 16:08 dpk at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 2049. 16:08 dpk [2024/04/15 17:07:46] [WARN] No method count found for Koha::Items DBIx::Class::SQLMaker::ClassicExtensions::puke(): Fatal: NULL-within-IN not implemented: The upcoming SQL::Abstract::Classic 2.0 will emit the logically correct SQL instead of raising this exception. at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Objects.pm line 583 16:08 dpk I have a question for the experts here.. We are seeing loads of these errors: 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> We have lots of room to grow π 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> ``` 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> tmpfs 197M 0 197M 0% /run/user/1000 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> /dev/sda 20G 312M 19G 2% /data/compose/55/volumes/app/mattermost/data 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> /dev/vda15 124M 12M 113M 10% /boot/efi 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> tmpfs 984M 1.1M 983M 1% /dev/shm 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> /dev/vda1 59G 17G 41G 30% / 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> tmpfs 197M 848K 196M 1% /run 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> udev 965M 0 965M 0% /dev 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> ptfs@KOHA-MATTERMOST:~$ df -h 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> 15:52:10 up 4 days, 1:31, 1 user, load average: 0.36, 0.28, 0.22 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> ptfs@KOHA-MATTERMOST:~$ uptime 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> Swap: 2.0Gi 81Mi 1.9Gi 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> Mem: 1.9Gi 1.1Gi 73Mi 41Mi 1.0Gi 850Mi 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> total used free shared buff/cache available 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> ptfs@KOHA-MATTERMOST:~$ free -h 15:52 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> ```bash 15:51 matterbridge [mattermost] <jpahd> As long as we don't need a k8s cluster to run our chat :D 15:50 domm[m] EvalError: call to eval() blocked by CSP 15:50 domm[m] JS not loading 15:50 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> Let me up this and quickly restart the server 15:50 matterbridge [mattermost] <jpahd> Ok 15:50 matterbridge [mattermost] <jpahd> Ah 15:50 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> I am not surprised. The server currently rate-limits at 10 queries per second, thats probably not enough now we have 35 people! 15:49 matterbridge [mattermost] <jpahd> oh no 15:48 bag domm[m]: try this https://chat.koha-community.org/landing#/ 15:48 bag hmm 15:48 bag so do I 15:47 domm[m] I get a blank page on firefox, and "Limit exceeded" via google-chrome - I assume some finetuning is still needed :-) 15:43 matterbridge [mattermost] <matts> Hi from mattermost :) 15:32 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> PTFS Europe is hosting the Koha Community Mattermost server and there are a number of admin users across the community. 15:32 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> 15:32 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> The current Mailing lists are also unaffected by this change. 15:32 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> There is currently a bridge to IRC so that anything posted in IRC appears in a channel in Mattermost and anything posted in that channel (in Mattermost) appears in IRC. There are no plans to leave IRC completely - it will take time for everyone to get used to Mattermost and for the community to make sure it isnβt cutting out any voices if it does decide to stop using IRC. 15:32 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> It will take a few weeks to settle into, and to implement all of the connections, integrations and bots that will make it as near perfect as a tool can be, but if you are happy to just dive in, then go over to [chat.koha-community.org](http://chat.koha-community.org) and log in. 15:32 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> We all decided that we needed a new tool that is as inclusive as possible, open source, modern, easy to use and familiar. The tool selected is [Mattermost](https://mattermost.com/) and you can start to use it straight away to ask questions, discuss bugs, raise issues or find out news about the Koha project. 15:32 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> Many of us have been discussing for ages how we would like to improve communication across the Koha Community and these discussions really came to a head at Hackfest last week in Marseille. 15:32 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> [chat.koha-community.org](http://chat.koha-community.org) 15:32 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> **Mattermost - the new place to be for all things Koha** 13:17 thd tcohen: Assuming that Traefik may be a problem when acting as a proxy for email protocols but can be bypassed for mail server ports. Is there an additional IP address on that machine or anther system where we can run a test instance of docker-mailserver such that a production instance and a test instance do not conflict for running the same services with the same email standards specified ports? 12:58 tcohen thd I never used traefik like that. I know it does SNI and HostSNI can be used to match things, but I never used it really 11:43 thd tcohen: Aside from services such http and https I think Traefik has trouble managing things other than DNS certificates. Email protocols are sometimes a problem for Traefik if Traefik is put in the middle for multiple mail services on the same port. 11:38 thd Also, if you have enough brain power at the moment, I am not certain where to ask rangi to direct DNS for an additional testing instance of docker-mailserver. An additional instance we can break without disrupting things where port 25 is not on the same IP address. 11:35 thd The first email you will have is where you and paulderscheid[m] will be on the CC in the message to rangi about DNS changes for anything to work including any new proprietary system. 11:33 tcohen timezona 11:33 tcohen and I'll start thinking about it in background and come back to you once my brain is back to a normal-ish place 11:33 tcohen Please let me know on an email (so it doesn't get lost for me) how I can help you 11:32 tcohen thd, conceptually I understand all you're talking about. 11:32 thd Or if service has been suspended because some problem is unavoidable a minor change in configuration and restarting the container has delivery working again without a new proprietary service. 11:31 thd Mail relays are easy. The tricky thing is configuring so that everything can work and some senders on the system can bypass the relay configuration. 11:28 thd Discourse officially recommends these proprietary SMTP services as the easy way to do email but that is because many adopters find setting up a mailserver too challenging. However, every one of these services has unhappy users who briefly had too many spammers trying to register Discourse accounts with someone else's email address etc. which then produces bounces as one way of getting too many bounces. 11:25 tcohen that's what I understood 11:24 tcohen they only do DKIM if you handle your domain with them I think 11:24 tcohen got it 11:24 thd Is HKS3 themselves not satisfied with secure-mailgate.com? 11:23 thd Yes, I know that option is being explored, but that will add more proprietary services which a FOSS project should not depend upon especially when these services are prone to suspend and then cancel accounts over temporary rises in bounced mail. 11:22 tcohen the one HKS3 had found was not good enough, and they are committed to finding another one 11:21 tcohen about finding a better SMTP provider that does DKIM 11:21 tcohen thd I like where you're headed to, but in Marseille there was a comment 11:09 thd ... and it delivers to Gmail, etc. mailboxes via secure-mailgate.com passing all tests. 11:08 thd Everything is sender dependent so that you can have different functions for different senders without one function clobbering everything. 11:07 thd tcohen: The big accomplishment was a clever trick a manged to get working where some addresses could send mail directly to any server without being blocked by the necessary configuration of relay functions. 11:04 thd Dovecot configuration can be improved but we only presently use Dovecot for authentication and transfering bounces somewhere else as needed. 11:03 thd I have been testing the configs and I have a very good configuration after breaking things a few times. 11:02 thd It is a little more than Postfix but Postfix is essentially all we would be using. 11:01 tcohen so you want to set a postfix server on a container? 11:01 thd Something like what we did to add the wiki container to portainer. In this case, there is no database to worry about. 11:00 tcohen thd yeah 11:00 tcohen can you drop me an email about what you need to do, and I try to think about it in between things? 10:59 thd tcohen: Were you also in France? 10:59 tcohen thd I don't think I'll have time today or tomorrow, catching up with jetlag and a pile of emails 10:56 thd tcohen: I am writing rangi about updating DNS now. He will probably be asleep. 10:56 oleonard Sorry to any who are back at work already with a Hackfest Hangover 10:56 oleonard Hi #koha 10:44 thd tcohen: Fixing that: Would you have time later today or tomorrow to pre-setup docker-mailserver? 10:42 thd tcohen: When would you have have time later today or tomorrow to pre-setup docker-mailserver? 10:40 thd I have been up but my sleep schedule was somewhat rearranged as struggled to find my typo. I left a letter out of my username and never noticed while rechecking my password. 10:34 cait ouch 10:31 tcohen I woke at 5 10:31 tcohen jetlag 10:31 tcohen hi thd 10:26 thd cait: I saw tcohen on IRC at an earlier than usual hour. 10:25 cait we have been :) 10:23 thd tcohen: I thought that you may have been in France. 10:23 matterbridge [mattermost] <cait> but RM time is planned for too :) 10:23 matterbridge [mattermost] <cait> tcohen++ thank you! Will check a little later today, still working on the backlog of mails 10:11 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=36593 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add support for the `time` column type on TestBuilder 10:11 tcohen bug 36593 for you 10:11 tcohen cait wb to work :-D 09:25 cait but we are testing for now, IRC is not going away, but it will not be able to offer the same functionality, for example people posting pictures, different channels, settng your own status as a new solution will provide 09:24 cait Annelisterman[m]: ultimately the idea will be to use a newer tool, that also allows channels etc. and gather the community there 09:03 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> Now enabled IRC Bridge as an auto-joined channel, so nobody misses out on the fun 09:00 Annelisterman[m] s/now// 09:00 Annelisterman[m] Ok. We'll have to look into it. We are now using IRC with Matrix/Element at the moment. 08:58 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> I will explain the discussion that we had at Hackfest in the newsletter, yes. The intention, for now, is that IRC stays active. It will then depend on how active it is in the long term I would think, and how inclusive Mattermost proves to be. 08:58 thd Annelisterman [m]: IRC will be active as long as people want it to be by participating there and to whatever extent the chat/IRC bridge works. 08:56 Annelisterman[m] Ok. Is this IRC going to stay active though? Or maybe you are explaining it all in the newsletter. :) 08:55 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> Yes, the bridge between Mattermost and IRC enables those on Mattermost to see the IRC chat and vice-versa. 08:54 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> I am going to pop an announcement in the Koha Community newsletter and the maillists in the coming days. 08:54 thd Annelisterman[m]: I believe that there is intended to be a bridge, there it is. 08:54 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> We have been setting up a Mattermost server (hosted by PTFS Europe), and testing the functionality in the last few days. 08:53 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> At Hackfest we discussed a new way of enabling community communication and chat, and settled on Mattermost as the best option for us. 08:52 Annelisterman[m] What is this mattermost? Are we supposed to join it instead of this IRC? 08:44 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> chat.koha-community.org is live! 08:44 matterbridge [mattermost] <PerplexedTheta> The bridge went down because I didn't update the config with the new URL - it should be back up now 08:34 magnuse signing up for mattermost was pretty smooth, at least 08:28 magnuse oh noes 08:19 ashimema did the bridge stop already 08:17 ashimema interesting 08:06 ashimema chat.koha-community.org 08:06 ashimema Yeay.. address is now live proper by the looks 07:45 paulderscheid[m] Beta is over :D 07:41 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_17_April_2024 07:41 cait aulda: matterbridge on the agenda for Wednesday? :) I just added some other topics as well 07:25 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> π 07:25 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> I see you @cait 07:25 matterbridge [mattermost] <paulderscheid> Yep, the bridge is bi-directional :) 07:25 cait I think the URL shoudl be sorted from what I saw (email between rangi and tcohen) 07:25 cait aulda: not sure if you can see that, but sounds good, just let me know when we are supposed to sign up 07:24 matterbridge [mattermost] <paulderscheid> That's a very good idea! 07:24 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> Also, I saw the call for the community newsletter so I'll draft a piece for that, and for the mailing lists giving people heads up about Mattermost. 07:22 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> Should have the correct URL sorted today so that we can launch more formally 07:22 paulderscheid[m] I love it 07:22 ashimema we're just awaiting dns stuff to migrate through... ssl etc 07:22 ashimema it's close.. very close π 07:21 matterbridge [mattermost] <aulda> We're just in Beta at the moment... 07:21 paulderscheid[m] :D 07:21 paulderscheid[m] seems so cait 07:12 cait Roles page is up: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_24.11 07:11 cait bonjour matts :) 07:11 cait paulderscheid[m]: did I miss the instructions on how to get on mattermost? 07:11 matterbridge [mattermost] <paulderscheid> morning #koha 07:07 matts hi koha! 06:53 cait good morning #koha! 06:11 magnuse \o/ 05:58 reiveune hello 05:17 dcook But the URL thing seems to be the key factor 05:17 dcook Possibly also too many comments too quickly 05:17 dcook Have too many URLs in a comment I think 05:05 thd dcook: What does one need to do for bugzilla to ban an account?