Time Nick Message
00:49 tuxayo Hi :) does anyone know how to start koha-testing-docker with mysql 8 with the ktd command?
00:49 tuxayo Or should it be done with the old way to starting ktd?
01:23 tuxayo the old way doesn't work. There were changes since then.
01:34 tuxayo the CI doesn't have the same issue so there must be a way. Anyway, ticket opened: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/issues/411
04:41 davidnind @later tell tuxayo Edit .env file and change DB_IMAGE value (default=mariadb:10.5), for MySQL 8 change to mysql:8.0, then do a ktd pull
04:41 huginn` davidnind: The operation succeeded.
06:51 magnuse \o/
06:59 marcelr o/
07:11 fridolin yellow
08:44 magnuse in Koha/BackgroundJob.pm line 143 there is "or Koha::Exceptions::Exception->throw('Job has not been enqueued');" but it looks like Koha::Exceptions::Exception is not a thing anywhere, and i am getting "[WARN] The job has not been sent to the message broker: (Can't locate object method "throw" via package "Koha::Exceptions::Exception" (perhaps you forgot to load "Koha::Exceptions::Exception"?) at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/BackgroundJob
08:44 magnuse .pm line 141." that must be a bug, right? yes, it must
08:47 marcelr magnuse is this on master ?
08:48 magnuse i am seeing it on 22.11.04, but it looks like it is the same on master
08:49 marcelr how to reproduce ?
08:49 marcelr no rabbitmq?
08:50 magnuse no, rabbitmq is running here
08:50 magnuse i am not sure what triggers the error yet
08:51 magnuse bug 35843
08:51 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35843 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No such thing as Koha::Exceptions::Exception
08:51 marcelr ok
08:51 marcelr will have a look now
08:55 magnuse awesome!
09:00 magnuse looks like there was Koha::Exceptions::Exception, but it was changed to Koha::Exception by bug 29857.
09:00 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29857 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, CLOSED FIXED, We must stringify our exceptions correctly
09:01 magnuse Specifically https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/commit/2b9fae544575a4386748238212c0ca62854af30e
09:07 marcelr patch coming
09:11 magnuse yay!
09:22 ashimema nice one
09:22 ashimema marcelr++
09:38 magnuse anyone got a "total number of libraries running koha around the world today"? i know hea says 17.000+
09:40 ashimema pass
09:42 marcelr magnuse: hea needs regular cleanups
09:42 marcelr so not always super accurate
09:42 ashimema I'd love to spend some time on hea
09:42 ashimema there's some open merge requests for code cleanup from memory
09:42 marcelr and not anyone participates..
09:42 ashimema and I think there's more we could be reporting.. like I'd love to see stats on installed plugins
09:42 marcelr yes and more prefs
09:42 marcelr often new prefs
09:43 ashimema I'd prefer it be on by default with opt out rather than the other way around.. but that's contentious..
09:43 ashimema we often don't set it simply because we forget to
09:43 marcelr would probably be easier
09:44 ashimema as for prefs.. we always forget to check that when new ones are added... we should probably be catching it at QA whenever a new pref is added we should be asking "Should this be reported to HEA"
09:44 marcelr yeah and qa does forget it too :)
09:44 marcelr qa tools could say i am missing HEA
09:45 ashimema good idea
09:46 marcelr @later tell Joubu if we add a pref, could qa tools alert us on HEA ?
09:46 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded.
09:46 ashimema https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools/-/issues/79
09:46 marcelr he will say: make a merge request :)
09:46 ashimema I think hea itself needs a good cleanup though too
09:47 ashimema it crashed for me trying to see prefs the other day
09:47 marcelr hmm
09:48 cait maybe something for Marseille?
09:48 fridolin HEA++
09:53 ashimema I'm being stupid
09:53 ashimema remind me how to enable guarantor/guaruntee functionality?
09:54 ashimema I'm not seeing how to add a relationship to any users in ktd
09:55 ashimema aha.. I had to find the right patron type
09:57 cait the checkboy is in the patron category config
09:57 cait can have guarantee or so
09:59 marcelr ashimema: bug 35819 ?
09:59 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35819 critical, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , "No job found" error for BatchUpdateBiblioHoldsQueue (race condition)
10:00 ashimema okies.. will attack that once I've finished QAing the patron search in modals bug
10:02 marcelr cool
10:11 marcelr magnuse++
10:11 magnuse marcelr++
10:12 marcelr also git grepped it and found nothing more
10:12 ashimema I might be being a bit OTT on bug 35329
10:12 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35329 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Move patron searches to a modal
10:12 ashimema but if we're doing this.. I'd love for it to also lead to more consistency across the board.
10:13 marcelr more consistency is appreciated
10:14 marcelr a bit OTT is quite balanced :)
10:20 ashimema I'm torn
10:20 ashimema do you think I should let this PQA as is.. it all works and works well
10:21 ashimema and then add follow-up bugs to try and encourage the improved consistency
10:21 ashimema or.. ask for the improvements here and now.. even though it's already a fairly involved and large bug
10:21 ashimema I'm swaying towards the former.. specific bugs for he improvements on top of this
10:22 ashimema but I really hope they get done
10:22 ashimema I kinda imagine with the suggestions owen might try to pick off at least a few
10:38 marcelr well we are early in the cycle so follow-up reports should be fine ?
10:59 ashimema I've reverting my PQA.. there's a bug I missed
10:59 ashimema well.. didn't miss as much as I thought it was an enhacement request when it's actually a bug I reckon
11:00 ashimema regression
11:01 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha
11:01 paulderscheid[m] Is there anything specific I have to do to get Koha::ItemTypes->search_with_localization to work? The localization table has no rows even though de-DE is installed.. :/
11:02 paulderscheid[m] But I bet there's something I'm missing.
11:12 paulderscheid[m] The thing I don't get about this is that a lot of template controllers are using this successfully. Where do the translations come from if the table is empty?
11:14 paulderscheid[m] Oh, wrong assumption. It doesn't work.
11:32 oleonard Hi I'm here now ashimema if you wanted to share what you found with the modals bug
11:33 ashimema I've put comments on the bug and opened a few new bugs hanging off it 🙂
11:34 ashimema one is tiny but I think will make a big change.
11:34 ashimema s/change/improvement
11:47 oleonard marcelr++ # Thanks for the QA
12:16 ashimema bug 35845 was the one I was thinking would be a nice, and hopefully fairly quick, win for patron search modals
12:16 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35845 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add a 'note' or 'success'/'failure' wrapper around action feedback in patron search modals
12:16 ashimema oleonard
12:17 ashimema I'd love to see bug 35846 too, but I think that may be more involved and contentious.
12:17 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , On wide screens, we should display the patron search results next to the filters rather than beneath
12:19 oleonard ashimema: I disagree, I think a responsive layout will make it pretty easy to implement
12:21 oleonard I almost jumped on it right away and then I remembered I was in the middle of something :D
12:22 aw-bib[m] hi! does kohas staff interface have some sort of su functionality? iow could I become another user if I am admin?
12:22 aw-bib[m] (on the web I mean.)
12:22 cait no, you can't take someone else's role/user account over
12:23 aw-bib[m] ok. good to know. (this is a very handy function on our current system.)
12:35 ashimema awesome, that's great to hear 🙂
12:36 ashimema I'm keen to allow that for API's aw-lib
12:36 ashimema I could see it being helpful in the UI too
12:36 ashimema maybe submit a bug for it 🙂
12:37 aw-bib[m] I could submit a bug as a suggestion, of course. but I fear it's beyond my capabilities to actually build it.
12:37 magnuse just getting the idea into bugzilla is a good thing :-)
12:38 magnuse who can update kc-org to say "Introducing Koha 23.11" instead of .05?
12:42 cait Liz
12:42 cait I emailed her right after release
12:42 magnuse cait++
12:43 cait the Template we use is broken, you can't get to that bit from the Wordpress GUI, she needs to change it in the db
12:43 magnuse ouch
12:43 cait yep
12:44 magnuse bug 35848
12:44 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35848 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, NEW , Update front page for Koha 23.11
12:45 ashimema I'll bug her on Slack for you
13:02 magnuse thanks
13:26 tcohen hola #koha o/
13:26 tcohen happy friday
14:00 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
14:08 PedroAmorim[m] \o
14:11 magnuse o/
14:12 tcohen any recent change on plugin loading?
14:12 tcohen $ perl misc/devel/install_plugins.pl
14:12 tcohen No plugins found
14:12 tcohen pluginsdir contains:
14:12 tcohen /kohadevbox/koha_plugin/innreach\n/kohadevbox/koha_plugin/slnp-ill
14:12 tcohen I'm getting that
14:12 tcohen $ perl misc/devel/install_plugins.pl
14:12 tcohen No plugins found at /kohadevbox/koha_plugin/innreach
14:13 tcohen :-D
14:13 tcohen I should try --plugin
14:13 tcohen friday
14:43 ashimema lol
14:53 lukeg Hello!
14:54 ashimema It's Friyay!
14:54 ashimema Hi lukeg
16:04 reiveune bye
16:11 cait lukeg: was waiting to see an email from you ;)
16:23 caroline my catlady status is leaking into my correction software lol https://snipboard.io/p85HlK.jpg
16:24 cait :)
16:31 aude_c[m] lol
19:25 tuxayo cats++
19:31 davidnind How about "Millions of cats"? (new to the public domain in the US, also slightly off-topic 8-) ) https://archive.org/details/millions-of-cats_202401/mode/2up
19:37 tuxayo «as for prefs.. we always forget to check that when new ones are added... we should probably be catching it at QA whenever a new pref is added we should be asking "Should this be reported to HEA"»
19:37 tuxayo Good idea :)
19:41 tuxayo davidnind: what a tragic story! :o
19:44 davidnind a bit dark now that I think about it 8-( ...
20:02 vegasjoe890 I am new to security testing. I also do support 3 koha libraries in my area. I would like to learn how to better do web application testing with koha. I have my own lab. But would like to be mentored and help out in a real world application.
20:41 davidnind vegasjoe890: I would suggest posting to the development mailing list for a wider response (with time zone differences, and heading into the weekend for many, it is normally a bit quieter here at this time)
20:42 davidnind it's great that you want to help with this, and there is always a need to improve and test Koha's security!