Time Nick Message 07:01 krimsonkharne[m] morning #koha! 07:10 ashimema Morning 07:58 magnuse davidnind++ 595 signoffs in 2023 is just amazing! 08:19 cait good morning #koha 08:29 puphaus[m] Good Morning everyone :) 08:29 PedroAmorim[m] o/ 08:46 cait good morning and a happy new year everyone :) 08:48 Annelisterman[m] Happy new year! :) 09:07 paulderscheid[m] From me as well, good morning #koha 09:09 aude_c[m] Happy new year! 09:14 cait confetti! :) 09:14 ashimema happy new year 🙂 09:14 cait hm wahanui bot still missing 09:15 magnuse happy new year! 09:17 magnuse cait: o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 09:20 cait thx magnuse :) 09:38 ashimema bye bye xmas theme 09:38 ashimema it was nice seeing you 09:42 cait wasn#t it a winter theme? :) 09:42 ashimema it was rather christmassy 09:42 ashimema wouldn't mind some more seasonal themes for the dashboard though 09:43 ashimema but I'd also rather like it to be bootstap updated and a few other things first 09:43 ashimema doesn't get a great deal of love 09:44 * ashimema wonders if todays quote is cait 09:44 ashimema >i can not not plan! i am german! 09:56 cait that sounds very much like me yes 09:56 cait but it changes with every reload, so... :) 11:35 oleonard Hi #koha, Happy New Year 11:55 cait happy new year oleonard :) 11:56 * oleonard has just a bit of email to get through today ;) 11:57 cait I was hoping fora nother quiet week, but I think it's not going to happen 11:57 tcohen Hola 11:57 tcohen happy new year! 11:57 cait hola and happy new year! :) 12:03 magnuse happy new year! 12:05 magnuse trying to figure out how to use koha-dpkg-docker. guess i'm a bit confused about what happens where... currently stuck at some problem with local changes to .css and .po files. should it work? anyone got a hint? tcohen? 12:05 magnuse "dpkg-source: info: you can integrate the local changes with dpkg-source --commit" but where should "dpkg-source --commit" go? 12:05 magnuse https://paste.koha-community.org/33965 12:06 cait can someone remind me of the max size of a MARC (not XML) record? 12:07 magnuse cait: 9999 chars or bytes or something? 12:07 cait Record length (character positions 00-04), contains a five-character ASCII numeric string equal to the length of the entire record, including itself and the record terminator. The five-character numeric string is right justified and unused positions contain zeroes (zero fill). The maximum length of a record is 99999 octets. 12:07 magnuse something to do with a field at the start that can only hold 4 digits 12:07 cait yah 12:07 magnuse ah, one off 12:07 cait one more, but yes 12:07 magnuse :-) 12:07 cait octets = characters here? 12:08 tcohen magnuse 12:08 magnuse tcohen: 12:08 tcohen looking 12:08 magnuse s/:// 12:08 cait All ASCII characters are encoded using one octet in the ASCII encoding and the Unicode UTF-8 encoding, thus a character is equivalent in length to an octet when an element's values are restricted to ASCII. 12:08 tcohen magnuse: local changes need to be commited 12:09 magnuse tcohen: but it looks like local changes are made in the process, generating .css files and also something with the .po files? 12:09 tcohen ah 12:09 tcohen it mmakes sense 12:10 tcohen I wonder what is mtj doing 12:10 tcohen because that's not a koha-dpkg-docker error, but from the build process itself 12:11 tcohen khall: are you aware of this issue? did you solve it on your builds? 12:18 magnuse oops, scared him away... 12:34 magnuse https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-dpkg-docker/-/issues/4 12:36 cait magnuse: not sure if that is your issue, but when we did our last packages we had issues with CSS files 12:36 cait and the fix from the "easy" page worked - you need to makre sure to use the correct yarn etc. versions 12:37 magnuse sounds like it could be related 12:37 cait po files etc. worked after we fixed that 12:37 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way 12:38 cait It's this bit: Check npm/gulp/nodejs package versions 12:38 magnuse ah, interesting 12:40 cait but we ar using the old pbuilder process, not the koha-dpkg-docker one 12:51 magnuse but pbuilder is involved there too, so i am testing it now 12:57 magnuse that did remove the long list of css and po files 12:59 magnuse and now i notice https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-dpkg-docker says "Example of directories that must be removed permanently or backed up elsewhere ... koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/css/maps/" 13:00 cait so.. it helped a little? 13:03 magnuse i think so! 13:03 cait yay! 13:04 cait if it worked, the package will be much smaller thaqn beofre (because no po files) 13:10 cait @seen paul_poulain 13:10 huginn` cait: I have not seen paul_poulain. 13:10 cait paul_p++ 13:33 magnuse cait: bleurgh, i had some other uncommitted changes. when i took away those i get the same error again. so it looks like npm etc stuff didn't help after all... 13:34 tcohen magnuse: if you run the build-git-stanpshot script the old way 13:34 magnuse cait: the "time" link in the email about the dev meeting is for "Wednesday, 13 December 2023" 13:34 tcohen I guess you will get the same 13:34 tcohen so this doesn't seem like a koha-dpkg-docker error, but on the tooling we have 13:38 magnuse "$ sudo ./debian/build-git-snapshot" gives "dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../koha_22.11.12.kbase.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz}" so different errir 13:38 magnuse *error 13:44 cait magnuse:: gah. 13:44 cait i read it like 3 times 13:47 cait ah, got the wrong time link... 14:07 thd pauldersheid[m] Are you present? 15:46 paulderscheid[m] yeah 16:04 thd pauldersheid[m] Did you find the Loïc Dachary's Mailman 2 to Discourse import scripts? They need some updating for Discourse changes in the past year or to and changing of some hardcoded values but they are much better than merely using the Discourse mbox import. 16:07 thd Discourse mbox archive import only imports users who posted to the previous mailing list and then only as "staging" users not real users with permissions to do something useful. Loïc Dachary's Mailman 2 to Discourse import scripts create real users. 16:12 thd pauldersheid[m] https://lab.enough.community/dachary/rezo-import/ . git clone needs an extra parameter for that repository to include components. 16:15 thd git clone --recurse-submodules https://lab.enough.community/dachary/rezo-import 16:15 paulderscheid[m] Thanks, i will look into it soon 16:16 thd ... etc. under Setup in the README. 16:17 thd I have made some extensive research into all aspects of Discourse and will post the various aspects in pieces for the bug soon. 16:17 paulderscheid[m] That's great to hear! Looking forward to it :) 16:18 thd Loïc Dachary uses undocumented Discourse API calls for configuration. 16:19 thd Most of the Discourse API is undocumented. Civilized Discourse Construction Kit does not really do documentation. 16:23 thd It would be great to add some better user default settings for each user created from the mailing list. Loïc Dachary API use is for Discourse admin settings but it would be nice if mailing list members had a mailing list compatible configuration created to start. Setting all the options for proper mailing list compatibility is not obvious as an admin or a user. 16:24 * thd has been doing repairs at my place on and off the past few days and working all night. /ME needs sleep :) 16:29 thd Plugin to test Discourse with real user data but blocking email being sent to users from the test system https://github.com/merefield/discourse-isolation .