Time Nick Message 07:07 magnuse \o/ 07:23 ashimema morning #koha 07:29 magnuse kia ora ashimema 07:34 reiveune hello 07:46 Joubu upgrading weblate 07:52 ashimema Excellent 08:09 magnuse Joubu++ 08:09 cait good morning #koha 08:16 Joubu cait: https://translate.koha-community.org/translate/koha/master/messages/de/?q=servertype&sort_by=-priority%2Cposition&offset=1 08:16 Joubu there is an alert now 08:24 krimsonkharne[m] morning #koha 08:40 Joubu @later tell tcohen 35353 comment 4 - I won't reply there, but it feels directed to me. 3 years ago so I don't remember the details, but it was just not working: the dates/hours displayed were not correct so it had to be fixed... 08:40 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 08:47 seanfish[m] tuxayo: thanks will use this as an initial method of contributing 09:17 PedroAmorim[m] \o 09:33 cait Joubu: there is also highlighting, that's nice 09:33 cait makes it stand out more as something special 09:33 cait and you can click on it and it copies it into your text, that's pretty much what we had in Pootle and it's nice! 09:34 Joubu the only issue I found so far is that the check is not done on existing translations. But maybe they will appear after tomorrow's sync. 09:34 cait Joubu++ 09:34 cait that's waht I was going to ask 09:34 cait I fixed that one, but I'd like to check for more 09:35 Joubu no more for de-DE 09:35 cait that's a relief :) 09:35 Joubu `junitmsgfmt misc/translator/po/de-DE-*` in case you want to know ;) 09:41 cait weblate++ 09:42 cait i know (from my RMaint time :) ) 09:43 cait Joubu: Any idea what we could do about those selenium tests? 09:44 Joubu remove them? 09:45 Joubu I am on authentication_2fa.t 09:46 Joubu we should also share the load, I should not be the only one to take care of them... 09:47 ashimema sorry Joubu.. not been following this discussion 09:47 ashimema whats up? 09:51 cait I tried to have a look but got basically stuck by them not failing for me .( 09:51 cait ashimema: we have problem with the selenium tests failing on D11 still 09:52 cait I'd really like a green dashboard for christmas 09:53 Joubu selenium tests are failing only on D11 because it's the only job to run them ;) 09:53 cait i tried to recreate locally and they kept passing is what i meant 09:54 cait ashimema: can you test bug 35598? 09:54 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35598 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , selenium/authentication_2fa.t is still failing randomly 09:55 Joubu cait: yes, hence the "randomly". Sometimes it also means "when the server is slow". 09:55 cait i know, my machine is probably too fast, but I had trouble finding the issue or making it visible 09:55 cait is the output you posted from your local machine or is that visible in Jenkins somewhere? i could only find the short form 09:56 Joubu bug 35598 comment 0? 09:56 Joubu when it's prefixed with "koha_1" it comes from jenkins, the "raw output" view 09:57 Joubu "console text" it is - https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/2767/consoleText 09:57 Joubu https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/2767/console - "View as plain text" on the left 09:57 cait aah so I can see it there ok 09:57 cait I was looking yesterday, but only found the "not ok" from the prove 09:58 Joubu yes, that's not useful 09:58 ashimema ah yes.. I've struggled replicating that one in the past too 09:58 cait I figured, but it's all I had found :) 09:58 Joubu the "plain text" view is the useful one 09:58 ashimema it really is random.. 09:58 Joubu never seen it before 09:59 aude_c[m] <cait> "aude_c: I am looking at https..." <- Sorry cait; had a day off yesterday! 09:59 cait all good 09:59 cait do you want to work it out? 09:59 aude_c[m] I could update the website myself if you prefer? I seem to have access to posts but not pages; are you able to give me permissions to update that page please? 09:59 cait yes, of course! 09:59 aude_c[m] :) 10:00 cait i don't kow, but I think I can upgrade you give me a moment 10:00 cait can you give me your user name? 10:00 cait oh found it 10:00 aude_c[m] audecharillon 10:01 cait can you try nowß 10:01 cait can you try now? :) 10:01 cait I made you editor, I think that shoudl do the trick 10:01 aude_c[m] Yes, getting the Edit button now; thank you! 10:02 aude_c[m] I may not have time today, but I'll make sure I update before the end of the year... 10:02 cait we have a taiga card for updating the docmentation page - do you have access to that too? 10:02 aude_c[m] Err... probably not 10:03 cait ok, let me know when you have done it, then I can set it to done :) 10:03 cait or make ashimema do it :) 10:04 cait it's part of the release handover task list 10:04 Joubu I sent you an invit for taiga 10:04 Joubu aude_c[m]: I sent you an invit for taiga 10:04 aude_c[m] 👍️ got it, thanks! 10:04 cait https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/task/34 is the card 10:05 ashimema teamwork++ 10:33 cait still need a sign-off for bug 35598 ... :) 10:33 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35598 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , selenium/authentication_2fa.t is still failing randomly 11:01 Joubu @later tell mtj ping bug 30002 comment 49 11:01 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 11:04 cait Joubu: my perltidy is a 2023.. soemthing 11:08 Joubu yes, newer than the one in ktd 11:09 Joubu so it's a false positive, but not something to fix at qa script level, but package level 11:09 cait i commented on the bug, but I was thinking: wahy not update ktd? 11:09 cait we alread have a lot of code tidied witht he newer version around now... and why use an old oneß 11:10 cait tcohen just yesterday told me to use the Debian package 11:10 Joubu see comment please 11:10 cait and my ktd had the 2023 too? so it's a little confusing 11:10 Joubu you ktd had 2023? 11:10 Joubu I have 2020 11:10 cait yes 11:10 cait i can check again after my next ktd down/up cycle 11:10 Joubu aren't you using 'master'? 11:11 cait yes? 11:11 Joubu so it's 2020 11:11 Joubu Debian 11.8, and it's v20200110 11:14 cait I don't see a comment on why not using the nwer version 11:15 cait or I am not understanding it 11:16 cait we don't list a specific perltidy verison in our coding guidelines either - we should fix that either way 11:16 Joubu bug 30002, last comments 11:16 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30002 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to oldstable , Add project-level perltidyrc 11:16 Joubu we need to new version in ktd 11:16 Joubu We don't understand each other 11:17 cait I figured 11:17 Joubu I don't understand your comment there 11:17 cait I read your last comment about Mason so that you want him to downgrade 11:17 Joubu we need 2023 in ktd. 11:17 Joubu now we have 2020 11:17 cait ok, so we ARE on the ame page 11:17 Joubu "We have 20230309-1~koha1 but it's not the version install in ktd." 11:17 cait but if the dependency pacakge is correct, why do we need mtj to fix? 11:18 cait is that not somethign we need to built into the process of ktd? 11:18 Joubu apt policy perltidy 11:18 Joubu and apt show perltidy 11:18 Joubu and you will get it 11:18 Joubu the package is there but not installed 11:18 Joubu well, not the correct version 11:18 cait perltidy: 11:18 cait Installed: 20230309-1~koha3 11:18 cait Candidate: 20230309-1~koha3 11:18 cait Version table: 11:18 cait *** 20230309-1~koha3 500 11:18 cait 500 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha-staging dev/main amd64 Packages 11:18 cait 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 11:18 cait 20200110-1 500 11:18 cait 500 https://ftp.uni-stuttgart.de/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 11:19 Joubu I don't have 2023 installed 11:19 Joubu Version table: 11:19 Joubu 20230309-1~koha3 500 11:19 Joubu 500 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha-staging dev/main amd64 Packages 11:19 Joubu *** 20200110-1 500 11:19 Joubu 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 11:20 Joubu 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 11:20 Joubu this is what I have in ktd (master) 11:24 Joubu cait: did you manually update perltidy? 11:24 Joubu `apt install perltidy` 11:24 Joubu or is this fresh ktd? 11:25 cait I need to destroy it, and I am just in the middle of testing something 11:25 cait I will do it at the end of my session today and check 11:25 cait but that above was the host, sorry 11:25 Joubu ha! 11:26 Joubu :D 11:26 cait still learning :) but trying to 11:26 cait perltidy: 11:26 cait Installed: 20200110-1 11:26 cait Candidate: 20230309-1~koha3 11:26 cait Version table: 11:26 cait 20230309-1~koha3 500 11:26 cait 500 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha-staging dev/main amd64 Packages 11:26 cait *** 20200110-1 500 11:26 cait 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages 11:26 cait 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 11:26 Joubu ok, so what I am saying, we need 2023 in ktd 11:26 cait is ktd 11:26 cait do we know why it is not installed? 11:27 cait ok, asking too many question maybe :) 11:27 Joubu that's exactly what I am asking (and waiting for) since September 11:33 Joubu caroline, aude_c[m]: added you to https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/us/208 - so that you know it exists and where it is 11:38 oleonard Hi Joubu 11:46 Joubu hi :) 11:46 Joubu cait: can we consider removing this stupid captcha thing on the wiki please? 11:46 ashimema ? 11:47 ashimema I don't remember having seen a captcha on the wiki in years? 11:47 Joubu it's there since the move 11:47 ashimema when do you see it? 11:47 Joubu at least once per day 11:47 Joubu today twice already 11:47 ashimema doing what actions? 11:47 Joubu edit 11:47 ashimema I never do 11:47 ashimema weird 11:47 Joubu because you never edit? :D 11:48 Joubu my account is flagged as spammer then 11:48 Joubu or maybe you are admin? 11:48 ashimema i might be admin 11:48 ashimema that may make a difference 11:48 ashimema just in a meeting.. but I can take a look after this 11:49 ashimema I dislike captcha too 11:49 Joubu I am passing the captcha step from the koha-meeting script! What's the point if a bot can pass it easily?? 11:49 ashimema hahaha, that's nuts 11:53 ashimema grr, needs serverside access to change be the looks 11:53 ashimema there's nothing exposed to the admin ui 12:10 David_Saudi Goodday 12:10 David_Saudi I am involved in a project in ALula saudi Arabia to build and Manage the towns first library. Is there someone that could assist me with the integration of Koha 12:15 PedroAmorim[m] Hi David, you can ask specific questions here and someone will likely be able to provide some help, or you can visit https://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/country/ for a list of companies that provide paid Koha support 12:20 David_Saudi my email is david.leverington@balichws.com 12:21 David_Saudi i am just a tech manager and have been asked to look into a solution and came across your website. it would be good to have a online chat with someone to understand more. This is a very exciting project by opening this public library in this small remote Saudi town for the community 12:25 cait you can try to ask general questions here and people are usually friendly and helping, but they are volunteering their time here 12:26 ashimema I don't know that our company operates in your locality at all right now, but I've passed it along to the right team here to discus (ptfs-europe).. but as cait suggests, feel free to ask general questions on the mailing lists etc and people will try their best to help. Being open source, you've got lots of options for either self-hosting or finding a support company to help out. 12:31 marcelr o/ 12:34 cait hi marcelr 12:35 cait @info I am working through the bugs in QA list, but really want Jenkins fixed before pushing enh 12:35 huginn` cait: Error: The command "info" is available in the Factoids and RSS plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "info". 12:35 cait please help Joubu out - the bugs are filed and one is ready for testing 12:37 marcelr cait Isnt Jenkins green now apart from a selenium failure ? 12:38 cait 2 selenium failures, but they have been there forever 12:38 marcelr just push those tests 12:38 marcelr fixes 12:38 cait one doesn't have a fix yet 12:38 marcelr ok 12:38 cait and the other not even a sign-off 12:38 marcelr hmm cant test selenium easily 12:38 cait we can shortcut but maybe make the way a little longer 12:48 Joubu cait: both have a fix 12:48 cait great 12:49 Joubu bug 35600 12:49 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35600 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Prevent checkouts table to flicker 12:49 Joubu may fix bug 35506 12:49 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35506 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , selenium/regressions.t is failing randomly 12:50 cait I can test and sign them too (I would anyway) 12:50 cait I just pushed, if youant to halt Jenkisn I can push them now, but it's have preferred if someone else also did a quick test run 12:51 cait especially on 35600 as it#s not a test fix 12:51 Joubu yes, it definitely needs a proper SO+QA 12:52 cait with bug 35600 LoadCheckoutsTableDelay comes into mind 12:52 cait I'll add a note to the bug 12:53 Joubu yes, I have seen it but haven't tested it 12:53 Joubu no idea why this is in master... should be local JS code 12:53 cait I am still here tomorrow - if we can manage to have it tested until then, that would be great 12:54 cait and sorry for all the typos.. 13:03 magnuse cait++ Joubu++ 13:07 magnuse bug 35602 if anyone needs a trivial bug for training or something 13:07 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35602 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Typo: AutoMemberNum 13:09 aw-bib[m] hi! working on letters I read in the manual The notice defined in the ‘Default’ tab will be used if there is no preferred language set for a patron. but how do I set a preferred language as a patron? I don't see any setting in my account. does this refer to me choosing another language from the opac-interface? 13:10 cait you need to turn on the translated notices pref first 13:10 cait it#s in the I8N tab 13:11 cait then you'll see the default tab and the installed notices and also a setting in the patron record for the preferred language 13:12 aw-bib[m] ah, but I set it as a librarian for the patron, right? 13:12 aw-bib[m] it's not me the patron choosing the preferred language. 13:12 cait they can set it too from the messaging tab 13:13 aw-bib[m] ah! there it is. thanks again for the pointer! 13:13 cait and I think in 23.11 you can also set it for self regs and maybe on the patron record 13:13 cait np 13:14 aw-bib[m] I found it in the patrons record as staff in Library management indeed. 13:16 cait 23.11: patron record in the OPAC, not only the messaging tab but also the details one 13:19 tcohen hola #koha 13:32 magnuse ¡hola tcohen! 13:56 caroline aw-bib[m], can you tell me which manual page was confusing? I'll add the note that you need to turn on the pref 14:00 tcohen Joubu around? 14:00 aw-bib[m] caroline: its in tools directly before `modify notice`. the bullet point reads in full 14:00 aw-bib[m] `The system preference TranslateNotices will add tabs for each installed language to the notices editor. The notice defined in the ‘Default’ tab will be used if there is no preferred language set for a patron.` 14:00 aw-bib[m] so there is a reference to the `TranslateNotices` I was just not aware of where I would set a patron default language. 14:01 Joubu tcohen: yes 14:02 caroline ok I'll see if I can make it clearer with the preferred language thing 14:02 cait caroline++ 14:04 aw-bib[m] maybe it's just to set the preferred language use ... referring to the library use in the patron details or the two places mentioned by @cait from the patrons opac preferences. I think the default for this translation thingy is off while one could still switch languages around via the web interface. so I was sort of assuming some "hidden preference" that gets set once I switch the lang. (this tower thing in babylon was not the brightest 14:04 aw-bib[m] idea...) 14:06 caroline I think at one point some notices were dependent on the interface language, I don't know if it's still the case (like accounting slips or something?) 14:19 Joubu inadvertently found https://excalidraw.com 14:19 cait it's slips I think yes 14:19 cait anything you print directly in the browser 14:24 caroline that is pretty cool Joubu! 14:25 Joubu caroline: I am sure you said that without having seen the "library" on the right 14:26 Joubu and the "Christmas essentials" 14:49 oleonard Joubu: You've been trying to get my attention about Bug 35329? 14:49 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35329 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, ASSIGNED , Move patron searches to a modal 14:50 Joubu yes! :) 14:50 cait oh oleonard, I was looking for you too 14:50 Joubu too late cait 14:50 Joubu :D 14:50 oleonard Haha 14:51 * oleonard has been taking use-it-or-lose-it vacation days before the end of the year 14:51 cait we missed you :) 14:51 * cait draws a number 14:51 cait Bug 35087 14:52 Joubu oleonard: there is a move_to_modal branch on my gitlab repo. I've described what's wrong in the last commit 14:53 oleonard Okay I'll take a look 14:53 Joubu the nested modals have weird bugs 15:02 oleonard Joubu: I'm not seeing how to trigger the nested modal 15:02 oleonard The search results modal is showing... then click the patron's name? That doesn't do anything 15:07 Joubu guarantor search IIRC 15:07 Joubu did you follow "To test"? 15:08 oleonard I think I followed it correctly. Let me try one more time. 15:08 Joubu hum indeed, same here... erl 15:08 Joubu erk 15:15 Joubu oleonard: try 246489071dde4f97b088300210d3e21e5ecda741 15:15 Joubu and yarn css:build 15:15 Joubu I think the next "wip" commits were simplified tries 15:15 Joubu sorry this branch is a mess 15:17 Joubu the second to last is a test with "Simple modals", trying to not have 2 bootstrap modals. 15:17 Joubu and the last commit is a try on the main page it seems 15:24 tcohen cait I've pushed an update to KTD. It should solve the perltidy version discrepancy 15:25 tcohen @later tell mtj when you can, please check if we need to solve something for the failing KTD build, or we just drop support for those 15:25 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 15:28 oleonard Joubu: Is "simple modals" an added plugin? 15:28 Joubu no, just some css found somewhere 15:29 Joubu See +/* Simple modals */ in staff-global.scss 15:30 oleonard That's my instinct as well... to use something other than a Bootstrap modal for the second modal 15:30 Joubu but 246489071dde4f97b088300210d3e21e5ecda741 does not contain it, maybe you will find a way to fix the ergonomic issues, without the need of additional code to deal with modals 15:32 Joubu oleonard: looks like the branch is not working because I didn't manage to display this "simple modal" on top of bootstrap 15:32 Joubu patron-search.inc has some testing code: 15:32 Joubu 683 $("#patronPreview > .modalBody").load( page + " div.container-fluid", function(){ 15:32 Joubu 684 console.log("loaded"); 15:32 Joubu 685 }); 15:41 oleonard Joubu: In the newest commit the test button on the home page seems to do nested modals okay. Or does the problem not show up because there isn't content in the modals? 15:42 Joubu yes but it is not pulling its content from ajax request 15:42 oleonard Ah. 15:42 Joubu to be honest I don't remember :D 15:43 Joubu I guess this is yet another try. It looks indeed ok, but it needs to be adjusted to work on the patron search 15:44 Joubu I will have another look tomorrow and try to clarify the situation 15:44 Joubu it's a total mess right now 17:32 reiveune bye 21:51 caroline cait, did you manage to make translations work on ktd? 21:53 caroline I managed to get the po's (a great victory!), but when I `gulp po:update --lang fr-CA` or `perl translate install fr-CA` I get permission denials 21:56 davidnind I think I had that initially (sorry, haven't gone back to a bug with translations yet) - I think I removed the po directory and started KTD up again 21:58 caroline that's what I did initially to get the new po's 21:58 davidnind Or else I used koha-translate --install es-ES --dev kohadev (switch es-ES to your language) 21:58 caroline ah I'll try that 21:58 caroline that is in ktd --shel correct? 21:58 caroline --shell 21:58 davidnind it is 22:00 caroline that's probably what I'm doing wrong... I had the other commands in my notes from bug 34076 but ktd might very well have changed a lot since then 22:00 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34076 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , [ALTERNATE] [DOCS] Automated screenshots using Cypress.io testing framework 22:00 davidnind Some instructions were added to the KTD readme https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker#translation-files 22:01 caroline yes that's when I was following, I was at gulp po:update but it gave me errors... 22:02 caroline ok, so it mostly worked... lol https://snipboard.io/z1qTXO.jpg 22:03 caroline not sure what happened... 22:04 caroline I'll try again sometime 22:08 davidnind I'll try and find a bug to test with translations and see how I get on ... (I would check when you are in the po directory what git branch and git status show, but not sure if that will make a difference) 23:39 cait caroline: i think the gulp po:update bit worked for me, but not sure if I did something to make it work :(